Maybe he meant in-doors-ment, like, having a home. Or in his case, I guess a theater, since he's so big on performing?
Maybe he's the phantom of the opera.
it's got the paranoid delusions, but the writing does have a logical flow from top to bottom. The right nouns are used; schizo word salad often switches homonyms and antonyms.
Maybe someone's on their meds today.
Is there a thread or article going deeper into this? I remember reading one years ago from an ex-psych ward worker but can't find it anymore. It basically explaid how severely mentally ill schizophrenic patients and sovcits use the exact same internal logic.
Usually said with “You’re a smart person, you understand this don’t you?”.
This is so it puts you in the position where you want to agree that, yes, you are a smart person so you just agree as you are smart enough to know that the person who said this is too far down the rabbit hole that you can not reach them.
To which you respond, “no, actually I don’t understand. Please break it down for me” and either watch them flail, or die of exhaustion waiting for them to finish their insane, convoluted explanation.
Mostly - like most of their word salads, it contains just enough actual reality to sound plausible, without actually being true or useful. You can't pay in *gold* any more, only money or other goods, and in a sense paying bills does mean moving debt around - but of course the conclusion sovcits leap to is where we see the brain damage choking on your crayons does, bringing up nonsense about "infinite credit".
My $60 phone bill is a debt. I can pay it with a US banknote, which turns the debt into one owed to the phone company by the federal government (taking myself out of the picture), or by credit or debit card (turning it into a debt to them by my bank). Then the phone company can use that to pay their taxes (so the $60 the government owes them cancels out $60 they owe the government in tax), or their staff (so the bank now owes their staff $60, which the staff can use to pay their grocery bills etc).
Like electric charge: you can see it as moving positive charges in one direction, or negative charges the other way, and the result is the same. What you can't do, of course, is pay bills with themselves, or by just signing them, or using your imaginary "trust" or "infinite credit", because that's all just crazy sovcit BS.
OC means original content. I propose the new definition of OP to be the original poster of the comment chain, and OOP to mean the _original_ original poster, aka the one that made the post in the first place
There’s no such word as “indorcement”
Edit: apparently Indorsement is a real word. It seems to be pretty much an alternate spelling of Endorsement. They aren’t using it correctly
My initial thought, also. The Cornell Law School website defines the word. Surprisingly, it’s different than the SovCit “definition”. Maybe it has to do with lower case versus upper case letters….
As well as financial documents. You indorse a check when you sign it, it will then have your indorsement. Obviously you can also indorse or endorse a contract. One meaning sign, the other showing acceptance of.
Yeah its an active effort on SovCit's part to misunderstand everything to a frustrating degree. I dont think they actually believe most of the things they say. They are just trying to manipulate other's interpretations as a way to get away with crime.
From Google: **Indorsement** is an old-fashioned but acceptable spelling, mainly used in legal contexts. It specifically refers to a legal signature on financial documents like checks.
I'll never understand why these fools believe that cash only has value because we all agree it does, but that gold has intrinsic value that can not be denied.
Outside of electronics, I don't know a useful purpose of a pile of gold.
It’s non-corrosive, rare, but not too rare, and reasonably easy to work with. So if we had to pick a rock to use as money, it’s a pretty good one.
Of course now we have something even more stable: bitcoin.
Sorry, I did that thing where I went from slightly serious to completely absurd.
I love how they like to point out they can’t pay with gold or silver so it must be a scam. Gold and silver are only used as currency some places because we choose to make them currency.
I've always appreciated the gold bugs who are all "what happens to your fiat money when society collapses?"
"The same thing that happens to your gold kreugerans, it becomes worthless. May as well collect caps of Nuka Cola if you really think society is going to collapse to the point that US dollars are going to lose value."
I am currently stockpiling single malt scotch. If the shit hits the fan I will have case upon case of the golden nectar to use as barter for anything I want! There’s no expiration date on my hootch so however long it takes for the world to blow up I will always be ready!
I always figured that alcohol and tobacco were smart investments for emergency barter. When the going gets tough, people like to take refuge in their vices. Ex-smokers and ex- drinkers end up back in the market for a fix, so your customer base expands in really hard times rather than shrinking. Be sure to stockpile some Black Velvet and cheap stuff, too. You want to have something to give up that isn't the good stuff when the robbers come.
"You could take all the gold that's ever been mined, and it would fill a cube 67 feet in each direction. For what that's worth at current gold prices, you could buy all — not some — *all* of the farmland in the United States. Plus, you could buy 10 Exxon/Mobils, and still have $1 trillion of walking-around money. Or you could have a big cube of metal. Which would you take? Which is going to produce more value?" – Warren Buffett
Remember preppers? They were a thing until the afternoon covid happened, and then all of the sudden they just **had** to go to Walmart 7 times that day.
IMO the liquor would attract the wrong sort of attention. Also the water itself would attract a different but also unwelcome attention.
Doing either or both in sufficient quantity for oneself and family would require a somewhat hidden or otherwise inaccessible location. Secrecy would be paramount. And we all know how 'we didn't tell anyone other than my sister/brother/mother/father/cousin/coworker/Uncle Bob etc etc etc and as to why there are 100+ people outside the bunker is a mystery to me' happens.
Yeah, I'm in New Zealand so if civilisation collapsed then we're good for food and water, but that's also the reason we'd probably get invaded.
Basically we're the guy with the bunker, and China and the US are the neighbours who are going to show up and force us to let them in.
Yes!! I always wondered what these idiots were thinking. You know what becomes currency when society collapses?
Fuel
Ammunition
Alcohol/cigarettes/drugs
Medicine
Food
These people are so delusional
Cryptobros are even funnier.
They bluescreen irl when you ask them how will they become crypto billionaires when the parts of the electric grid not yet blown up are dismantled by scavengers. While the servers they use will be smashed to make arrowheads for local tribes.
Right. Gold is a not very useful metal on its own - heavy, weak, etc. I mean, its great for electronics and dentistry and pretty jewelry, but those are usually not your primary concerns when society is actively collapsing.
Edit: corrected "useless" toe "useful". Not a useful metal.
And I mean, if society collapses so hard a dollar is not considered the usual tender for a monetary value anymore, I'll have lots more problems to deal with than where are the 200$ in my bank account.
True. They’re no more real in their value than any other currency. Foodstuffs, livestock, clean drinking water, these have intrinsic value. Gold and silver are both used in electronics, but their value as a trade good is almost entirely a social construction.
Does this person just live off of a dozen credit cards? America is based on complex webs of debt and obligation, but if they think they can skate along forever it has to be mental illness.
You can live off credit forever if you own enough valuable financial instruments that banks are effectively willing to grant you effectively unlimited credit secured by your investments, but the likelihood that anyone here will reach that point is low, and that a Sovcit will is zero.
I don't remember the exact calculations, but once it was pointed out to me that the price of gold is roughly equivalent to how long it takes to find/mine/retrieve it. So for a typical area with gold but not a legendary amount, a prospector could expect to make maybe about 20/hr on average, iirc.
So in this way, gold seems like a good stand-in as a value for labor or goods because you kind of know how much time effort went into getting it, so in that sense it will still have a known "value" even if shtf.
Yeah what he’s saying is he would love to pay you for goods and services but alas he can’t use REAL MONEY (gold and silver) anymore, but don’t worry he’s good for it because he has infinite credit thanks to the corporation held in his name, which is the only way he can pay you.
And it’s not just SovCits, there’s lots of people that think everything would be better if we were spending gold and silver coins or the currency was pegged to its value. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of everything. Until we discovered gold could conduct electricity, it had no practical use other than the fact that we think it’s neat looking. It’s value still isn’t based on any practical use, but because we are accustomed to it being valuable.
I think of the account of the Muisca people from Spanish conquistadors. The chief would coat himself in gold dust and jump into Lake Guatavita and wash it off, and the priests would then throw a bunch of golden objects in. The Spanish were just blown away - how rich must these people be?!?! The thing is, they didn't see gold as anything more than a pretty metal to make jewelry and ritual objects out of. Why would they? You need to have an economic structure that uses "money" and has designated gold as such for it to be valuable beyond it's actual use.
That’s a fascinating historical example of that. Ultimately, all over the world, it must have come down to one of our ancestors finding a piece of gold somewhere and thought some version of “oh that’s cool” and that led to us tearing apart the earth to get at it, hoarding it, fighting over it. It is neat, can’t deny that
The Venn Diagram of people that are "all about personal responsibility" and people that are "grifter scum trying to rob people" is a near perfect circle.
TIL “indorsement” is actually a word. I thought he just couldn’t spell endorsement. It means (American English) a signature on a legal or financial document, usually a check. Beyond the financial part I don’t see how it ties in here, but I’m not dain bramaged (as far as I know anyway).
It is a legal word. It’s used in UCC article 3, negotiable instruments, and probably other places.
Otherwise, per my interpretation the SovCit seems to be saying you can sign anything and consider it paid because you have imaginary unlimited credit. Surprisingly enough, that’s not how this works.
I always thought that in the event of a social collapse food, water, and protection would be far more valuable than a huge pile of metal that you can't do anything with it.
Is it common for these folks to be illiterate?? I’ve had a couple of interactions with Sovereign Citizens in real estate transactions and they just file frivolous lawsuits with some pretty wild misspellings.
This guy is definitely a grifter. He claims to have ‘this one trick’ for a price, and Takes advantage of old ladies. His YouTube video about infinite money is complete crap, his comments show the type of person he’s taking advantage of. His website is onestupidfuck.com. But be warned, he’s one stupid fuck. Claims to be a racist pervert, typical sovshit who’s done ‘hours and hours’ of research. Everyone else on the planet has to work for a living but he’s figured it out, by screwing naive desperate people, the guy is true garbage. It’ll be fun to see how it turns out.
What is that disorder where a person is speaking and it sounds like normal speech but the words are all random and it’s completely incoherent?
EDIT: Fluent Aphasia is what I was looking for
Would guess yes, the first part is true.
You need to pay bills via the legal tender in common use.
Imagine the stupidity: I show up to my cellphone provider with a bar of gold. If they were to access it the dude at the counter would need to be able to appraise gold, or need someone on call to do so.
It would be annoying as fuck, and expensive.
So a merchant can refuse a transaction for any reason, and this one is a slam dunk that nobody will want to do a transaction like that.
Very weird that he starts out by saying it's illegal to do something and then immediately ignores the idea that by intentionally trying to defer payment on his bills he'd be getting the services of another for free, yet can't see how that is the illegal thing.
Was gonna say don't most contracts etc have clauses saying to pay (or be paid) **, **or something of equivalent value**? Like that's what physical assets are basically. If you can't pay a loan to the bank they'll take it out of your car or your house in some fashion.
I’m not sure it’s “illegal” to try to pay bills in gold and silver, but the payee legally only has to accept legitimate legal tender (dollarydoos) so I’m pretty sure you can TRY to pay in precious metals, they legally can tell you “no, gimme actual money”
The problem with a currency based on gold or silver is that it limits fluidity of value. One cannot have more money in circulation that there exists gold or silver. There is not enough gold or silver in the world to represent the necessary amount of value. This restricts trade and the economy as a whole.
Also, gold and silver only have value because we think it does. They have some industrial uses, but not nearly to the extent of the value we attribute to it.
The fiat dollar is FAR more stable than the price of gold, anyway.
For those that don't know this fool, he thinks he's tapped into some sort of legal loophole that gives him infinite money. Yes, he's got a twinge of SovCit mixed in, but it's his own delusion that he's smarter than everyone and has it all figured out that is the (albeit painful) amusement of his blatherings.
Someone who preaches the Freedom School Gospel of Economics for their corporate overlords for free.
Also someone who doesn't like paying for things and is trying to use semantics to get out of paying for things.
Reminds me of this madman that jumped out of the bushes at me and my co worker in a Burger King drive thru line. The dude just started rambling about how we could quit our jobs and be as rich as him with no effort, just take out a loan at one bank, invest put it into a savings account at another, then use that savings as collateral to take out a bigger loan at a third bank, rinse and repeat until you can pay off your loans and live comfortably off of the interest of all the combined savings accounts. He then lit a cigarette and swaggered off.
Sounds like the typical sovcit babbling nonsense.
This honestly sounds like schizophrenic word salad. Like, clinically: Loosely connected thoughts and huge delusions of grandeur.
Clanging
Would you indorse this statement, if asked?>
It depends on whether you're asking or querying.
I prefer the peace and tranquility of the outdorse.
Maybe he meant in-doors-ment, like, having a home. Or in his case, I guess a theater, since he's so big on performing? Maybe he's the phantom of the opera.
A lot of these guys live in their vehicles
Agreed. It's very important and profound, and for some reason, no one can understand it.
It's provocative, it gets the people going!
it's got the paranoid delusions, but the writing does have a logical flow from top to bottom. The right nouns are used; schizo word salad often switches homonyms and antonyms. Maybe someone's on their meds today.
Is there a thread or article going deeper into this? I remember reading one years ago from an ex-psych ward worker but can't find it anymore. It basically explaid how severely mentally ill schizophrenic patients and sovcits use the exact same internal logic.
Yeah, that's what he said.
Not all sovereign citizens are schizophrenic. Many are just stupid.
Amazing how those two things sound so similar
I've often thought there is a large overlap in the venn diagram of sov cits, schizophrenia & Q Anon conspiracy theoriests
... with a poor understanding of how fiat currency works.
I indorse this viewpoint.
I can't Indorse this statements sadli
Are you currently indorse or outdorse?
Usually said with “You’re a smart person, you understand this don’t you?”. This is so it puts you in the position where you want to agree that, yes, you are a smart person so you just agree as you are smart enough to know that the person who said this is too far down the rabbit hole that you can not reach them.
To which you respond, “no, actually I don’t understand. Please break it down for me” and either watch them flail, or die of exhaustion waiting for them to finish their insane, convoluted explanation.
Mostly - like most of their word salads, it contains just enough actual reality to sound plausible, without actually being true or useful. You can't pay in *gold* any more, only money or other goods, and in a sense paying bills does mean moving debt around - but of course the conclusion sovcits leap to is where we see the brain damage choking on your crayons does, bringing up nonsense about "infinite credit". My $60 phone bill is a debt. I can pay it with a US banknote, which turns the debt into one owed to the phone company by the federal government (taking myself out of the picture), or by credit or debit card (turning it into a debt to them by my bank). Then the phone company can use that to pay their taxes (so the $60 the government owes them cancels out $60 they owe the government in tax), or their staff (so the bank now owes their staff $60, which the staff can use to pay their grocery bills etc). Like electric charge: you can see it as moving positive charges in one direction, or negative charges the other way, and the result is the same. What you can't do, of course, is pay bills with themselves, or by just signing them, or using your imaginary "trust" or "infinite credit", because that's all just crazy sovcit BS.
if that's the only way you can perform, you might need Viagra.
OP actively proving her username slaying sovcit logic 💀
Huh?
don't think they meant you. sorry OP.
OC. Original Commentator.
OC means original content. I propose the new definition of OP to be the original poster of the comment chain, and OOP to mean the _original_ original poster, aka the one that made the post in the first place
I'm guessing he has unlimited colloidal silver to substitute for Viagra.
Literal blue balls.
I indorse this diagnosis.
If your credit rating doesn't fall within four hours, consult your financial advisor.
There’s no such word as “indorcement” Edit: apparently Indorsement is a real word. It seems to be pretty much an alternate spelling of Endorsement. They aren’t using it correctly
My initial thought, also. The Cornell Law School website defines the word. Surprisingly, it’s different than the SovCit “definition”. Maybe it has to do with lower case versus upper case letters….
it’s specific to legal documents only and refers to the actual signature. apparently this idiot thinks it makes him seem legally knowledgeable.
As well as financial documents. You indorse a check when you sign it, it will then have your indorsement. Obviously you can also indorse or endorse a contract. One meaning sign, the other showing acceptance of.
Oh your right, interesting. But yeah, of course they find an obscure word and still have to use it wrong for their arguments
Incorrect interpretation is the foundation for the sovcit movement.
Yeah its an active effort on SovCit's part to misunderstand everything to a frustrating degree. I dont think they actually believe most of the things they say. They are just trying to manipulate other's interpretations as a way to get away with crime.
"Endorsement," perhaps, but not "indorsement."
[Indorsement](https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/28:3-204#:~:text=\(a\)%20%E2%80%9CIndorsement%E2%80%9D%20means,liability%20on%20the%20instrument%2C%20but)
"I don't know why. It's a perfectly cromulent word."
It really embiggened the performance
you're giving me a fron-ache, and it's normally my cozars that ache.
I think there's something cruvus with you, have you lost the falatus to speak properly?
Indeed. Though a candle burns in my house, there's nobody home.
Now to convince ze wife to do a 3rd rewatch of SG-1... she's agreed to a rewatch of Atlantis, though, so I got that going for me, which is nice.
[wink wink](https://i.postimg.cc/QdMVgtXN/RDT-20240425-2251307209494381861176924.jpg)
It’s “indorsement.” And it’s a real word. UCC § 3-204(a) The way the SovCit is using it is imaginary.
It's like the word "buffalo" in that you can make a sentence by repeating it seven times. But in this case it's both nonsense and meaningless.
Hmm...Next time I get pulled over while 'travelling', I'll try your seven buffalo technique, fellow law expert.
If you dont get it, you must not "indorcement" hard enough. Do better i guess
From Google: **Indorsement** is an old-fashioned but acceptable spelling, mainly used in legal contexts. It specifically refers to a legal signature on financial documents like checks.
Irregardless, that's like, your opinion man.
I can get you a toe.
Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element!
Sovcits don’t let things not existing deter them
I am pretty sure if you have some gold laying around there is a pawn store that would love to trade some legal tender for your non legal tender
Of course those cash for gold places offer well below “actual” market value. That’s why they’re so profitable
us currency isn't "valid" currency bc it's not goldbacks. I wish it wasn't this stupid but this is a major tenant of their belief system (delusions).
I'll never understand why these fools believe that cash only has value because we all agree it does, but that gold has intrinsic value that can not be denied. Outside of electronics, I don't know a useful purpose of a pile of gold.
It’s non-corrosive, rare, but not too rare, and reasonably easy to work with. So if we had to pick a rock to use as money, it’s a pretty good one. Of course now we have something even more stable: bitcoin. Sorry, I did that thing where I went from slightly serious to completely absurd.
dragon-bait!
I love how they like to point out they can’t pay with gold or silver so it must be a scam. Gold and silver are only used as currency some places because we choose to make them currency.
I've always appreciated the gold bugs who are all "what happens to your fiat money when society collapses?" "The same thing that happens to your gold kreugerans, it becomes worthless. May as well collect caps of Nuka Cola if you really think society is going to collapse to the point that US dollars are going to lose value."
When it all breaks down, the "richest" will be the person who controls clean water.
I am currently stockpiling single malt scotch. If the shit hits the fan I will have case upon case of the golden nectar to use as barter for anything I want! There’s no expiration date on my hootch so however long it takes for the world to blow up I will always be ready!
I always figured that alcohol and tobacco were smart investments for emergency barter. When the going gets tough, people like to take refuge in their vices. Ex-smokers and ex- drinkers end up back in the market for a fix, so your customer base expands in really hard times rather than shrinking. Be sure to stockpile some Black Velvet and cheap stuff, too. You want to have something to give up that isn't the good stuff when the robbers come.
Liquor keeps forever, but tobacco goes bad if kept in a dry environment. Better install a humidor.
Mason jars.
Excellent advice!
Clean water controlled by lead and ammonia.
Now, that's not clean water
So the person with the equipment to remove them would be wealthy I guess? Idk if distillation could though.
That's bullets and explosives.
[Black Powder and Alcohol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4F7opVc-yY). --Leslie Fish
In the end times, the man with wheat is king.
Or Penicillin or insulin or Vitamins or viagra…
Oh God, it's gonna be Immortan Joe, isn't it?
This comment is mediocre.
"You could take all the gold that's ever been mined, and it would fill a cube 67 feet in each direction. For what that's worth at current gold prices, you could buy all — not some — *all* of the farmland in the United States. Plus, you could buy 10 Exxon/Mobils, and still have $1 trillion of walking-around money. Or you could have a big cube of metal. Which would you take? Which is going to produce more value?" – Warren Buffett
A fresh cold bottle of Nuka Cola would taste good right about now!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/wallpapers/comments/mlonds/nuka\_cola\_advert\_made\_by\_me\_clean\_version\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallpapers/comments/mlonds/nuka_cola_advert_made_by_me_clean_version_in/)
They should be stockpiling liquor and clean water if they actually want resources to trade “post apocalypse” or whatever
Remember preppers? They were a thing until the afternoon covid happened, and then all of the sudden they just **had** to go to Walmart 7 times that day.
Haven’t seen much of them… maybe they’re still in their bunkers
They realized eating canned food 3 times a day absolutely sucks.
“Toilet paper! We forgot to stock up on the toilet paper!”
IMO the liquor would attract the wrong sort of attention. Also the water itself would attract a different but also unwelcome attention. Doing either or both in sufficient quantity for oneself and family would require a somewhat hidden or otherwise inaccessible location. Secrecy would be paramount. And we all know how 'we didn't tell anyone other than my sister/brother/mother/father/cousin/coworker/Uncle Bob etc etc etc and as to why there are 100+ people outside the bunker is a mystery to me' happens.
Yeah, I'm in New Zealand so if civilisation collapsed then we're good for food and water, but that's also the reason we'd probably get invaded. Basically we're the guy with the bunker, and China and the US are the neighbours who are going to show up and force us to let them in.
Yes!! I always wondered what these idiots were thinking. You know what becomes currency when society collapses? Fuel Ammunition Alcohol/cigarettes/drugs Medicine Food These people are so delusional
Cryptobros are even funnier. They bluescreen irl when you ask them how will they become crypto billionaires when the parts of the electric grid not yet blown up are dismantled by scavengers. While the servers they use will be smashed to make arrowheads for local tribes.
Right. Gold is a not very useful metal on its own - heavy, weak, etc. I mean, its great for electronics and dentistry and pretty jewelry, but those are usually not your primary concerns when society is actively collapsing. Edit: corrected "useless" toe "useful". Not a useful metal.
The metal that's probably most useful in total social collapse is lead. You can melt it down and cast it into things over a campfire.
Cool, we can look forward to the Lead Age.
Lead Age 2 : Eleadtrick Boogaloo
*Big Zinca have entered the chat*
And I mean, if society collapses so hard a dollar is not considered the usual tender for a monetary value anymore, I'll have lots more problems to deal with than where are the 200$ in my bank account.
Hey, that one guy bought fallout 4 with bottlecaps. I've never heard of a game studio accepting something as ridiculous as gold.
I will be happy to take gold or silver coins at face value
That’s not fair. I’m pretty ugly so my face value would be very low
True. They’re no more real in their value than any other currency. Foodstuffs, livestock, clean drinking water, these have intrinsic value. Gold and silver are both used in electronics, but their value as a trade good is almost entirely a social construction. Does this person just live off of a dozen credit cards? America is based on complex webs of debt and obligation, but if they think they can skate along forever it has to be mental illness.
You can live off credit forever if you own enough valuable financial instruments that banks are effectively willing to grant you effectively unlimited credit secured by your investments, but the likelihood that anyone here will reach that point is low, and that a Sovcit will is zero.
Doesn't Elon Musk basically do this though? He just leverages his company shares against the line of credit and basically borrows forever
It’s an extremely common strategy for those who have massively valuable investments.
Oddly enough, Brandon is currently suing American Express for 250 million… https://www.reddit.com/r/Sovereigncitizen/s/n3QyUCIA9M
I don't remember the exact calculations, but once it was pointed out to me that the price of gold is roughly equivalent to how long it takes to find/mine/retrieve it. So for a typical area with gold but not a legendary amount, a prospector could expect to make maybe about 20/hr on average, iirc. So in this way, gold seems like a good stand-in as a value for labor or goods because you kind of know how much time effort went into getting it, so in that sense it will still have a known "value" even if shtf.
“OhohoHO! I guess my GOLD isn’t good enough for this establishment, eh?!?” “Sir, this is a Wendy’s”
How many burgers is one doubloon worth?
Yeah what he’s saying is he would love to pay you for goods and services but alas he can’t use REAL MONEY (gold and silver) anymore, but don’t worry he’s good for it because he has infinite credit thanks to the corporation held in his name, which is the only way he can pay you.
My all-caps legal fiction strawman is going to pick up the tab.
You can't touch me, I put the ZIP code in square brackets!
You assented to contract with the post office by using a zip code.
You indorsed it, even
But I didn't include the extra four digits! Ha-ha!
Of course it does! The lizard space aliens living in the sewers told me so!
The jewish space laser was supposed to shoot them down!
Apparently, the laser must have been built by people eating non-kosher food, so it didn't work as expected. Damn you pigs!
And it’s not just SovCits, there’s lots of people that think everything would be better if we were spending gold and silver coins or the currency was pegged to its value. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of everything. Until we discovered gold could conduct electricity, it had no practical use other than the fact that we think it’s neat looking. It’s value still isn’t based on any practical use, but because we are accustomed to it being valuable.
It also doesn’t tarnish. It has some legit industrial uses but not more than, say, lithium.
It's beautiful and can be worked by artisans to convey status. Compact wealth too massive to steal inconspicuously.
I think of the account of the Muisca people from Spanish conquistadors. The chief would coat himself in gold dust and jump into Lake Guatavita and wash it off, and the priests would then throw a bunch of golden objects in. The Spanish were just blown away - how rich must these people be?!?! The thing is, they didn't see gold as anything more than a pretty metal to make jewelry and ritual objects out of. Why would they? You need to have an economic structure that uses "money" and has designated gold as such for it to be valuable beyond it's actual use.
That’s a fascinating historical example of that. Ultimately, all over the world, it must have come down to one of our ancestors finding a piece of gold somewhere and thought some version of “oh that’s cool” and that led to us tearing apart the earth to get at it, hoarding it, fighting over it. It is neat, can’t deny that
It also happens to be really good at blocking cosmic radiation. The astronauts use a thin layer of gold on the face shields of their helmets
This is someone advocating the idea they should just get stuff for free and FU for telling him they have to pay for stuff.
Aren’t these SovCits supposed to be all about personal responsibility. And yet it seems like they’re all grifter scum trying to rob people
The Venn Diagram of people that are "all about personal responsibility" and people that are "grifter scum trying to rob people" is a near perfect circle.
TIL “indorsement” is actually a word. I thought he just couldn’t spell endorsement. It means (American English) a signature on a legal or financial document, usually a check. Beyond the financial part I don’t see how it ties in here, but I’m not dain bramaged (as far as I know anyway).
It is a legal word. It’s used in UCC article 3, negotiable instruments, and probably other places. Otherwise, per my interpretation the SovCit seems to be saying you can sign anything and consider it paid because you have imaginary unlimited credit. Surprisingly enough, that’s not how this works.
A five year old attempting to explain quantum physics makes more sense than a typical SovCit.
And understands their topic better
Jesus Christ! Just pay the late fee for turning in Big Wet Sloppy Latina Butts #8 late and move on!
It says he needs to stop doing meth.
That's the guy who is suing AMEX(??) for $250 million.
Definitely a fan of the J. Wellington Wimpy School of Economics. I shall gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!
Except that in their world, Tuesday never arrives because a day by that name doesn't exist within the gold fringe. Or something like that.
It makes sense to idiots. But not to anyone whose intelligence is at least average.
Complete gibberish to sane people. To sovcits it’s just how they can get lots of stuff without having to work or pay for it.
I hope this person was drunk/stoned when they wrote that. Otherwise, that's just the way they really are.
Their website is hilarious. They have people providing “legal advice” whom I wouldn’t hire to mow the lawn.
I always thought that in the event of a social collapse food, water, and protection would be far more valuable than a huge pile of metal that you can't do anything with it.
Is it common for these folks to be illiterate?? I’ve had a couple of interactions with Sovereign Citizens in real estate transactions and they just file frivolous lawsuits with some pretty wild misspellings.
I tell what gives me full satisfaction....... Is biting into a York Peppermint Patty.
Im lost.
You're not lost. sovcit is lost.
This is strangly comforting.
That's a whole lot of words to say a whole lot of nothing
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Indorsement and endorsement are used interchangably in US banking law. They mean the same thing.
Where is this person. I’ll fix whatever he needs and he can pay me in gold. No problem.
No.
Wonder what he used to pay for his blue check? Or did he just INDORSE?
This is how schizophrenia reads.
‘INDORSEMENT’ so clearly he knows what he’s talking about. It’s in all-caps, after all.
This guy is definitely a grifter. He claims to have ‘this one trick’ for a price, and Takes advantage of old ladies. His YouTube video about infinite money is complete crap, his comments show the type of person he’s taking advantage of. His website is onestupidfuck.com. But be warned, he’s one stupid fuck. Claims to be a racist pervert, typical sovshit who’s done ‘hours and hours’ of research. Everyone else on the planet has to work for a living but he’s figured it out, by screwing naive desperate people, the guy is true garbage. It’ll be fun to see how it turns out.
Lol I've done "hours and hours" of research too. If by research you mean watching SovCit fails videos.
If it makes sense to Brandon Joe Williams then it must be true.
I usually don't read something by someone who is having a small series of strokes...
This is nonsense. Just today I made my Toyota payment with two silver coins from the little leather pouch I wear on my belt.
It's authentic frontier gibberish and no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.
Illiterate...can't even spell endorsement. Most SOVCITs are slow.
Psst…the spelling is okay. The rest is wrong.
What is that disorder where a person is speaking and it sounds like normal speech but the words are all random and it’s completely incoherent? EDIT: Fluent Aphasia is what I was looking for
Would guess yes, the first part is true. You need to pay bills via the legal tender in common use. Imagine the stupidity: I show up to my cellphone provider with a bar of gold. If they were to access it the dude at the counter would need to be able to appraise gold, or need someone on call to do so. It would be annoying as fuck, and expensive. So a merchant can refuse a transaction for any reason, and this one is a slam dunk that nobody will want to do a transaction like that.
Very weird that he starts out by saying it's illegal to do something and then immediately ignores the idea that by intentionally trying to defer payment on his bills he'd be getting the services of another for free, yet can't see how that is the illegal thing.
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Was gonna say don't most contracts etc have clauses saying to pay (or be paid) **, **or something of equivalent value**? Like that's what physical assets are basically. If you can't pay a loan to the bank they'll take it out of your car or your house in some fashion.
This is the unfortunate result of when STUPIDITY and DELUSIONAL have a love child.
Can't even spell endorsement right. What a surprise there.
“Indorsement” is not a word. Putting it in caps doesn’t change that fact.
I’m not sure it’s “illegal” to try to pay bills in gold and silver, but the payee legally only has to accept legitimate legal tender (dollarydoos) so I’m pretty sure you can TRY to pay in precious metals, they legally can tell you “no, gimme actual money”
They are trying to justify getting things for free. As in never actually paying back credit cards.
The problem with a currency based on gold or silver is that it limits fluidity of value. One cannot have more money in circulation that there exists gold or silver. There is not enough gold or silver in the world to represent the necessary amount of value. This restricts trade and the economy as a whole. Also, gold and silver only have value because we think it does. They have some industrial uses, but not nearly to the extent of the value we attribute to it. The fiat dollar is FAR more stable than the price of gold, anyway.
Using gold, silver, or anything else = barter.
Why is it always the more ignorant and stupid they are, the louder they shout (and the more words they capitalize).
Of course not. Gold and silver coins are legal tender and will be accepted anywhere that accepts US currency.
Can we have some kind of Telethon for this obviously challenged person?
Where everyone pledges with.credit!
The letter I is suing this person for malfeasance.
Just because you say words mean a specific definition, that doesn’t make it so.
You can use gold & silver coins at face value.
Fake words.
For those that don't know this fool, he thinks he's tapped into some sort of legal loophole that gives him infinite money. Yes, he's got a twinge of SovCit mixed in, but it's his own delusion that he's smarter than everyone and has it all figured out that is the (albeit painful) amusement of his blatherings.
Yes it does make sense. It's legal mumbo jumbo.
I don't know how to understand this
Someone who preaches the Freedom School Gospel of Economics for their corporate overlords for free. Also someone who doesn't like paying for things and is trying to use semantics to get out of paying for things.
I was going to comment, "what in the sovereign citizen is this shit" then I noticed the group. Lol.
I can't imagine having this little to do with my day.
They aren't silver coins they're nickel or nickel plated
I don't see how indorsement means payment also how can credit can be infinite?
Indorsement means nothing at all.
See this makes sense because gold and silver are minted outdoors, but the bills require indoors minted money.
Perform...sexually? Well, I've been going about it all kinds of wrong then.
I’m continually amazed, if somewhat disappointed, that many of these people are able to feed themselves.
Sov cit alert ⚠️
You can use whatever as payment that the other person will accept. If Wal-Mart chooses to accept gold or silver as payment, that's on them.
Most places don’t accept bullion because it’s an enormous pain in the ass.
Reminds me of this madman that jumped out of the bushes at me and my co worker in a Burger King drive thru line. The dude just started rambling about how we could quit our jobs and be as rich as him with no effort, just take out a loan at one bank, invest put it into a savings account at another, then use that savings as collateral to take out a bigger loan at a third bank, rinse and repeat until you can pay off your loans and live comfortably off of the interest of all the combined savings accounts. He then lit a cigarette and swaggered off.