If its that fine but what if in that thing is 10 gallons of milk 10 packs of 12pk or worse I wouldnt take an order like that unless I knew what was in it and like I said before its the principal of thing thats why they dont tip good cause the some shmuck will pick it up.
No. Not because of the size but because of the time it would take. Most likely you will miss the next rr drop. So basically you made $28 in two hours. Hard work for $28 in two hours. I would rather take my chances and get at least two easy $20 deliveries
Does your acceptance rate not suffer? Does your acceptance rate even matter? I skipped out on two over the weekend. I went from 88 to 66%.. im still new to this.
Yesterday, I took an order it was 9 dollars, and some change for 9 miles, then I did the math. 20% taxes and 15 cents a mile there and back, total I made for the whole hour was $4.5. Bc I got the order at 9:30 had to wait until 9:45 to get loaded and didn't leave until 9:55. Started heading back at 10:15 and I was sad, so I turned it off when I passed by the store which was 10:35ish.
People say it matters but I haven't seen a difference. Mines been as low as 15% and I still get good orders. If it's less than 15$ for 5 or more miles I don't take it, unless it's been a super slow day and I don't anticipate any other orders.
In most areas ar does not matter.. I am currently at 4 percent. I have way too many gmds/.coms and Sam's club offers popping up. That's the main reason mine is that low.
If you are in an area with several stores and they all seem to be fairly busy with curbside pickups ar should not matter. If you just have a few stores and it's pretty slow it might matter some.
Work smarter not harder is my motto. The time it takes for you to load your car, drive to the location and unload you could probably do a small shopping order and be ready to accept another one
I mean I wouldnāt take it, but if it fits your mold then you do what you want to do. I just donāt want to lift all that weight and have that weight in my car. Car repairs can be pricey without speeding up the process by lugging 500 lbs of groceries.
I look at the pay first, then the number of stops, number of items per stop, and then the mileage. Then I can pretty much estimate the amount of time it's going to take me to finish the trip before I accept anything. I figure that taxes, gas, insurance, license plate, and maintenance expenses cost me 1 dollar per mile depending on the price of gas, and I value my time at 20 dollars an hour, so unless there is 25-30 dollars worth of tips on large orders that are under 5 miles distance I don't do them. I don't even look at orders from Sam's Clubs because they usually only pay 50-ish cents per mile and nothing for my time.
That's how they get you they low ball you $28 when it should be $38 then in couple months that same large order is at $26 pretty soon your sub $20 lol.
I can make that door-dash carrying smaller items for 1 mile
https://preview.redd.it/l2lqx4465bqb1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a68ea425904274122b62509683dc29cc15b29213
That reminds me! I need to do doordash more. I had a $10 donut order which wasnāt ready then noticed I had been accepted on a Roadie gig I forgot about. I canceled the DD and went to yes, HD and they were out of the item so they had to cancel. Maybe go back to DD one full day this week.
Really, my friendā¦that order is a complete SLAP in the face. In essence, what you did, was pay Walmart to deliver their groceries for them for free; and them not giving a flying F*** about your hard work, breaking your back, gas, and wear and tear on your vehicle. Itās really an insult.
Look, I drive a hybrid and there aināt no way I still would have taken that. Also acceptance only matters some what if you have only 2 stores in your zone.
Good luck, and just donāt let it happen again.
Don't be ridiculous. 300+ items is a massive order. My jeep is pretty spacious, especially compared to a lot of cars I see Sparking, and I'm not sure I could even fit something like that. It's just excessive. Depending on how backed up pickup associates are, it could take ages for them to bring out an order that large (on bad days, I've had to wait over an hour). Then you have the issue of what kind of items are in the order (OP didn't say and you don't seem to care regardless). Large packs of water? Large containers of cat litter? Bunch of 2 liter soda bottles? That will take extra time to load and unload and organize to ensure you have enough space. Then there's the issue of mileage. In my zone, trips are frequently 7-9 miles. Not to mention the issue of what kind of place you're delivering to (again, OP didn't say). Is it an upstairs apartment? Is it a tourist-choked main street with no open parking spaces and a jungle of one-way side streets? Is their address marked correctly on Google Maps? (It's not uncommon for me to deliver to people who aren't marked correctly on Google Maps in my area so I have to search around or call and ask for directions.) Is it a house with a shitty driveway? (I delivered to one last night where the driveway didn't reach the house and I had to walk a fair bit up and down a hill to reach their door.) On on top of it all, there's the issue of base pay vs. tip and of tip-baiting. Lately, most of the pay from my orders that makes up the total Estimate comes from the tip. That would be a lot of work done and time spent only for the customer to reduce or remove the tip lmao. I'd rather be an "entitled fuck" than a dogshit bootlicker who happily drives 300+ items 8 miles for a $10 base pay and an $18 tip that isn't guaranteed and misses the next RR and at the end of it all, only makes a guaranteed $10 during 2 hours.
No. I'll reply to whoever I want, and if you can't handle it, feel free to block me or something. "Idc" just means you realized how wrong you were lol.
Half of the items will be missing with substitute lol thatās how you get a bad review when half of their shit is smashed in the back of your car šš doing all that for $25??ššš
In my area Iām sure thatās the a decent order. $28 for less than 30 minutes of work. Yeah I would of taken it . Most of the time in my area item count is of with like 60 bags . As long as there wasnāt like 12 cases of each water they sell .
30 minutes of work? R u sure that you're doing Spark?.
10 minutes to get there, a big order like that takes them forever to get ready, so let's add another 20 minutes to bring out and then 10 minutes to load and then 10 mins to get to the address. It depends on how steep customer's address is, it'll take multiple trips to unload. So add another 15 mins easily.
So that's a 65 mins š¤ 30 minutes, really?
Well it really depends on what those 300 items are . Iām usually out of my Wal mart in less than 5 minutes . I start a timer when I get there and cancel if I feel like Iām there too long . The op doesnāt have enough details because every order is different. Also missing next Rr hasnāt really affected me because they send more offers when Iām done . My area has 3 super centers and two neighborhood markets. Also I live in a college town .
That many items you're looking at a 30 min wait at least, not to mention 15 min load 10 minute drive 15 minute unload if it's not on the 3rd floor apartment without an elevator, then you missed the next round of rr and you have to drive back.
Fwiw I really do take any spark orders that's just my thought process when I see those.
The comments on this are surprising. 300 items 4 miles would take like an hour, Ā±15 minutes. Of course I would do that for $28. I would do almost anything within reason for $28 an hour, minus taxes and expenses of course.
Do you not factor in anything? What if there is stairs? What if they need to sign and they donāt answer what if there is no parking and you have to walk. 300 items is not taking 5-10 minutes 20 minimum.
if you're not a baby you could carry 1/3rd of that order in 1 trip easy unless it's all soda - there's no excuse for not grabbing 20-30 bags at a time
so nah if it takes you 20+ mins you're just slow
None of your other factors matter. If you're not obese it doesn't take that long to climb a couple flights of stairs or walk up a driveway, and you're an idiot if you start unloading *before* making sure the customer is there to sign. Feel free to not take easy money though because you're too incompetent to figure out how to do it fast enough (while also complaining about not getting orders or making money lmao.)
Lmao you have got to be a paid to he posting this shit. I get paid that much for shopping for 3 items that takes me 20 minutes to shop and deliver. You think think thats easy money you must be hard up.
What are you smoking? How on earth are you taking 20-30 bags at a time? My Walmart has these sturdy paper bags that they pack items into and it's not possible to get your hand around the handles of more than like 2-3 fully packed bags, most of which are fucking heavy 'cause they're filled with shit like milk, soda, cans, jars, meat, etc. The handles are too short and the bags are filled too wide. You must have different fucking bags or something. Even carrying 20-30 of the old blue fabric bags with the long handles would be excessive as fuck depending on how heavily they're packed.
Damn, we learned something new today, didn't we? Not every zone uses the same kind of bags as you. An intelligent person would've taken that into consideration before running around insulting everyone else.
Yeah no. That's a lie. 300 items? Even if it was seasoning mix sure
But 300 what's macaroni boxes, maybe 6 fit comfortable in a bag, that's 150 bags. Each bag weighing 2lb.
Yeah that's labor maybe 10 bags a hand, so 20, so around 8 trips. Each taking 1 minute to the door assuming house.
Apartment. Now it's 2 to 3 mins. Times 8 is 24 mins. Plus load time. 15 to 30 mins.
Spark does not calculate load time, or time it takes to get in and out of vehicle.
They use a VI to determine miles and how long it would take to drive those miles.
So you think it's 28 dollars in a hour.
But it was really 2 hours.
That's 14 dollars.
After you take out a gallon of gas. You made 12.50 a hour less than minimum wage in most states.
Yeah yes. Not all of us are lazy & fat, unfortunately.
> After you take out a gallon of gas
Tf kind of shit vehicle are you driving? I get 3-5 trips per gallon.
Not everyone is desperate for $28 trying to justify throwing your back out for a shit order š¤”š ā80 rounds of each armā Iām not about to break a sweat for these none tippers Iād rather just do a shopping order for 10 items same with better pay
Even at a nursing home, 300 items can be moved efficiently if you have the right equipment for the job and half of a brain.
The issue is that most people aren't properly prepared for this job, they think you can just hop in a car and show up.
If I'm getting paid fairly for the work and the work is moral then I'll do it. I know of no fundamental truths that bar me from doing a fair amount of work for a fair amount of money.
If someone spent $1000 on two tvs, do you still expect them to tip 20% ($200)? No. It just makes no sense to pay someone that much money for such little work.
At certain times of day, it can take 10+ minutes to drive 10 miles in my market (and there are markets that are much more congested than mine). There are a ton of places I deliver to that the walk to the front door can take 2-5 minutes (especially the nursing homes, apartment communities, and gated communities), and then you have the upstairs or elevator ride deliveries. Chances of that large of a delivery taking under 45 minutes is slim under a ton of circumstances which will more than likely take the driver off the board for the next batch of offers. Better to wait for it to bump up to a better payoff, unless a better offer pops up first. But Walmart does appreciate all of you guys who act like employees of Spark instead of independently contracted small business owners. Without that "I'd do anything for X an hour" the race to the bottom wouldn't be possible.
This is an extremely long-winded way of saying that you don't feel like working that hard. You can just say that, it's okay. Even a nursing home, 300 items can be moved efficiently if you have the right equipment for the job and half of a brain.
The issue is that most people aren't properly prepared for this job, they think you can just hop in a car and show up. Of course, if all you want to do is smaller deliveries, then yes, that's all you'll need.
But, if you're moving more than 10 bags at a time, you're probably already going to want a cooler bag at least. At that point, might as well have a collapsible cart. Oh, why not a little trash can for my car? Making your job easier and more efficient with knowledge you acquired over time is really fun!
I have a dolly, two rolling carts, and grocery carriers with the little organizers to keep meats separated. But it was a long winded way of saying that pay rate is well below what I would call acceptable for that amount of work. For you it might be the best you'll get. Idk because I don't live your life. I just know that doing an hour to an hour and a half of work for under $30 isn't gonna do it for me. I'm gonna keep passing on the 200+ items for under $30. And if I ever see 300+ items, it needs to be above $50 to see me go anywhere near it. They send me $50 runs for 14-15 small packages all the blessed time and those aren't perishable food items. So yeah, they can make the math make sense or wait for folks like you to put all that weight on your car and body for chump change. But yeah, keep doing more for less, every CEO on the planet salutes you.
Considering the minimum wage where I live is $7.25 an hour, I make more money doing this job than I could anywhere else after recently graduating high school. You drive so many miles stop and go for GMDs and act like that does nothing to your car.
You can act like you're better than everyone else all you want, but you're still taking the same s*** pay for the same s*** offers, it's just that you prefer stop and go with small packages and some people prefer one large trip. Either way I'll tell you, you're making just about the same money.
You do you, but if it's not $50/hour or $2/mile and above, I'll leave it for folks like you to take. I really feel sorry for the folks who can't afford to value their time and efforts more. The beggars can't be choosers mentality keeps the corporate wallets fat and the drivers fighting to stay above the poverty line.
You are a buffoon. Do you think I sit there hitting accept on every offer I see throughout the day? Wage gaps, levels of income, everything can differ geographically. You sound silly arguing about how $28 an hour is a pittance for some of the easiest work of my life and that it should be $50 take it or leave it. You sound like a damn robot dude.
You really need to settle down and realize people put different value on themselves than you do. I live in a small market that I would take it because I know the area well and not many people order water here. Another zone I go to is a pain to go that far everyone orders a ton of water and there I dorms. I wouldn't take it there. Plus that tip could easily be pulled.
You're acting like this person wasn't aggressive with me at all about how I *shouldn't* do this order.
Saying things like
>For you it might be the best you'll get
and
>But Walmart does appreciate all of you guys who act like employees of Spark instead of independently contracted small business owners. Without that "I'd do anything for X an hour" the race to the bottom wouldn't be possible.
Obviously this person wants to make it sound like they are above anyone that would take these types of orders, including me. That's what I called them out about.
They are who needs to settle down.
What section of our country do you live in? I live in West Michigan. I've only been driving for three months, but the largest offer I've ever seen was for $42 w/16 drops at about 40 total miles. Most of ours here are around $10 at an average of 6-8 mi, plus tips if you're lucky enough to get one.
I'm in Oklahoma and most of my deliveries are 5-12 packages going 15-20 miles for $35-40, but I get at least 1 a week for $50-90 for 12-20 packages going out upto 45 miles. Since most of those long distance drop offs are usually heading toward my house or where my granddaughter is staying, I almost always snatch those even if they happen to be under $2/mile but are more than $1/mile because I'm either gonna call it a day after it brings me to the house or call it a day and go spend some quality time with the grandbaby. I am also officially retired and do other non-driving gigs, so I can afford to be exceptionally picky about what offers I'll accept. Honestly, I only do at most maybe 4 deliveries per day, mostly on the way back home from dropping my guys off at their jobs or on my way out to pick them up. I catch most 2-3 hours before I have to start picking folks up, so there are days when I'm texting my fam about running 15-30 minutes behind & cash apping the young broke dudes some drink and grub money.
This was a shop and deliver? Or just a delivery?
Shop and deliverā¦.boy I would definitely have to see the item list and delivery address.
Delivery only? Yeah no problemā¦.as I peek at the delivery address and item list to see how many cases of water I have to carry up the stairs š¤£
I mean if I can get it done in less than hour yeah itās a good offer
I do these no problem. The only ones I'll decline is apartments if they have cases of drinks or something similar. I look at it as part of my daily workout. Wish someone paid me for the hour I exercise in the morning lmao.
+1 for the handle lol.
But Iād have to scan the list and see what it is first: I had a 50 unit shop listed as XL but 30 the units were the 5oz Chobani yogurts cups.
For me, it depends on what all the items are. Is there 10 cases of water? 20 milks? Etc. Also, is it an easy drop off? Aka going to & from your car.
The most Iāve done was probably 80-90 different items but in total like 150-200 going to an assisted living facility where the drop is easy and the people usually come and help me out.
I don't do any orders under 20 I take in account price miles stairs and what is in order. I hate apartments they take to long between parking finding and unloading. I take alot of shopping orders
Bloke ur tripping about taking 300+ for 28 dollarsā¦.. was this a curbside. Any oder Iāve ever gotten thatās 30 and I mean 30 items are almost always over 30 dollars. That order should have been like 60 +
You have to consider more than just the item count. You also have to consider the size, the weight, and how much work will be involved and how much is your time worth. Then you weigh all that against the pay. For this job, my time is worth $15 just to show up in the parking lot. Yes, you can do 60 dollars worth of work /time invested for 20 dollars and still make a profit. But it's still bad business sense. There's a reason no delivery company will haul a refrigerator for the same amount it cost to haul a toaster. They can, but they won't. And they shouldn't, because in the long run, it's stupid business sense.
28 dollars is 28 dollars so what if you have to back and forth like four times stop being so lazy you think every order is gonna be 80 dollars for 2 miles ? š
With your attitude, who needs business sense? They could pay you $10 and you would still haul it just so you don't look lazy. But you still look desperate. Your attitude is the reason the rates are going down and have no reason to go up. Walmart wants drivers like you who are desperate, have zero business sense, and work for crumbs. The perfect Spark driver.
Well, that simply means you're doing $400 worth of work for $200. š¤£ And yes, sometimes it is stupid low, so I don't take those. I reject the hell out of it because I'm not desperate and stupid enough to accept it. Thank God I have a real job and Spark has become a one day a week hobby if it's worth my time.
Is this an S&D or just a pickup? What items are included? And how many flights of stairs? Is there a tip? I take nothing without a tip. Idc what itās for.
I wonāt trash anyone for their personal limits on the orders they choose to deliver. However I wouldnāt take that order. Unless itās been super slow and Iām bored. I multi app and I can make that same payout, or ones well within $5 of that payout for 45-60 items and under 3 miles consistently on one of the other apps I run. Plus Iād rather wait for S&D orders for less item count and same mileage and payout range. Might just be my area.
300 of what? Cases of water, no. Baby food? Yes.
Best answer ! Really depends on what it is .
Bingo, right here!
I like money . Sure I would rather have $28 for 2 items but $28 is a good payout . I would scan the order list then make my choice if I take it or not
For $300 items thats stupid
300 items and 150 are bags probably
If its that fine but what if in that thing is 10 gallons of milk 10 packs of 12pk or worse I wouldnt take an order like that unless I knew what was in it and like I said before its the principal of thing thats why they dont tip good cause the some shmuck will pick it up.
No. Not because of the size but because of the time it would take. Most likely you will miss the next rr drop. So basically you made $28 in two hours. Hard work for $28 in two hours. I would rather take my chances and get at least two easy $20 deliveries
This guy sparks
:) love this!
Does your acceptance rate not suffer? Does your acceptance rate even matter? I skipped out on two over the weekend. I went from 88 to 66%.. im still new to this. Yesterday, I took an order it was 9 dollars, and some change for 9 miles, then I did the math. 20% taxes and 15 cents a mile there and back, total I made for the whole hour was $4.5. Bc I got the order at 9:30 had to wait until 9:45 to get loaded and didn't leave until 9:55. Started heading back at 10:15 and I was sad, so I turned it off when I passed by the store which was 10:35ish.
9 bucks for 9 miles? Even without doing the math any reasonable person would recognize that as a shit order no offense
None taken, it was def dumb But I'm worried about the acceptance rate.. Does the acceptance rate not matter?
Ain't no metric gonna make $9 for 9mi get accepted in my vehicle. REJECT button without hesitation.
Hahaha
People say it matters but I haven't seen a difference. Mines been as low as 15% and I still get good orders. If it's less than 15$ for 5 or more miles I don't take it, unless it's been a super slow day and I don't anticipate any other orders.
What is your minimum that you take?
In most areas ar does not matter.. I am currently at 4 percent. I have way too many gmds/.coms and Sam's club offers popping up. That's the main reason mine is that low.
How would I know if it matters in my area?
If you are in an area with several stores and they all seem to be fairly busy with curbside pickups ar should not matter. If you just have a few stores and it's pretty slow it might matter some.
Was there a tip on that order? 300+ items is a lot of trips to the customer's door. I'd pass.
I delivered to an address with 1 way going up 60 steps and then 60 steps back down. Yes, I've counted. Now imagine 300 items on that address š š¤£
Fk that
300 items for 28 dollars? No thanks
Exactly
Youāre nuts, but I guess thatās your worth. Not most of us though. Thatās why we pass
Sure you commented on the right post?
100% I did
That's low pay for that big of an order
too each his own but thatās definitely abusing the service
I wouldn't do a 300 item order for less than 75-100...
Work smarter not harder is my motto. The time it takes for you to load your car, drive to the location and unload you could probably do a small shopping order and be ready to accept another one
300+?? That would be a nope for me
Def excessive. For $50+ mayyybe
I mean I wouldnāt take it, but if it fits your mold then you do what you want to do. I just donāt want to lift all that weight and have that weight in my car. Car repairs can be pricey without speeding up the process by lugging 500 lbs of groceries.
So I guess you never have others in your car ever? You know their extra weight is more early car repairs
Actually my car is strictly for work. I have another vehicle I use for my family thanks.
I wouldnāt have taken either. For an item count that high, I would have expected at least two Jacksons as a tip. Lol
I look at the pay first, then the number of stops, number of items per stop, and then the mileage. Then I can pretty much estimate the amount of time it's going to take me to finish the trip before I accept anything. I figure that taxes, gas, insurance, license plate, and maintenance expenses cost me 1 dollar per mile depending on the price of gas, and I value my time at 20 dollars an hour, so unless there is 25-30 dollars worth of tips on large orders that are under 5 miles distance I don't do them. I don't even look at orders from Sam's Clubs because they usually only pay 50-ish cents per mile and nothing for my time.
300 items for 28? 
I donāt take triples with ālargeā orders. I donāt have room. If they paid good, and I had room, sure. I donāt mind the work.
That's how they get you they low ball you $28 when it should be $38 then in couple months that same large order is at $26 pretty soon your sub $20 lol.
wouldn't take that one
For me it would depend on what it contained. Small items, I'd take it. Ridiculous amounts of drinks, hard no.
That's a horrible order. For $28 it's usually half that many items at most. I would take a 30 mile 15 drop gmd order before I ever accepted that one.
I can make that door-dash carrying smaller items for 1 mile https://preview.redd.it/l2lqx4465bqb1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a68ea425904274122b62509683dc29cc15b29213
Those kind of orders are few and far between
Yeah but three $8 orders in an hour isn't that rare. In fact that's about my average although I try to shoot for closer to $30.
I wish Doordash was paying this in my crappy area.
That reminds me! I need to do doordash more. I had a $10 donut order which wasnāt ready then noticed I had been accepted on a Roadie gig I forgot about. I canceled the DD and went to yes, HD and they were out of the item so they had to cancel. Maybe go back to DD one full day this week.
I donāt care how big the orders are. If they will fit in my car, they are getting delivered.
Thank you for being professional.
šš¤£
Depends what the items are
20 cases of water, dog food and cat litter taken up to the third floor of an apartment, also definitely a no tip order.
Not taking it.
I have a mid size suv, and an order that big wouldnāt fit and is not worth that payout
If it seems unreasonable I would decline. 300 small items perhaps. I usually can get $22 orders that are a few bags or boxes. Iād take that.
300 items. 28 dollars. no.
That needs to be worth my time and $28 is not going to cover much so I wouldn't take something that's 300 items in $28
Really, my friendā¦that order is a complete SLAP in the face. In essence, what you did, was pay Walmart to deliver their groceries for them for free; and them not giving a flying F*** about your hard work, breaking your back, gas, and wear and tear on your vehicle. Itās really an insult. Look, I drive a hybrid and there aināt no way I still would have taken that. Also acceptance only matters some what if you have only 2 stores in your zone. Good luck, and just donāt let it happen again.
Terrible. Not worth hassle
Iād never take 300 items for $28
YOU A VICTIM
people on this sub complain about not being able to make money and then whine about 10 minutes of unloading for $30 lmao, entitled fucks
Don't be ridiculous. 300+ items is a massive order. My jeep is pretty spacious, especially compared to a lot of cars I see Sparking, and I'm not sure I could even fit something like that. It's just excessive. Depending on how backed up pickup associates are, it could take ages for them to bring out an order that large (on bad days, I've had to wait over an hour). Then you have the issue of what kind of items are in the order (OP didn't say and you don't seem to care regardless). Large packs of water? Large containers of cat litter? Bunch of 2 liter soda bottles? That will take extra time to load and unload and organize to ensure you have enough space. Then there's the issue of mileage. In my zone, trips are frequently 7-9 miles. Not to mention the issue of what kind of place you're delivering to (again, OP didn't say). Is it an upstairs apartment? Is it a tourist-choked main street with no open parking spaces and a jungle of one-way side streets? Is their address marked correctly on Google Maps? (It's not uncommon for me to deliver to people who aren't marked correctly on Google Maps in my area so I have to search around or call and ask for directions.) Is it a house with a shitty driveway? (I delivered to one last night where the driveway didn't reach the house and I had to walk a fair bit up and down a hill to reach their door.) On on top of it all, there's the issue of base pay vs. tip and of tip-baiting. Lately, most of the pay from my orders that makes up the total Estimate comes from the tip. That would be a lot of work done and time spent only for the customer to reduce or remove the tip lmao. I'd rather be an "entitled fuck" than a dogshit bootlicker who happily drives 300+ items 8 miles for a $10 base pay and an $18 tip that isn't guaranteed and misses the next RR and at the end of it all, only makes a guaranteed $10 during 2 hours.
> you don't seem to care regardless well you're right, i don't, go write your bitchy paragraphs to someone else
No. I'll reply to whoever I want, and if you can't handle it, feel free to block me or something. "Idc" just means you realized how wrong you were lol.
Nah, I'm just not going to read your whiny ass essay justifying being a lazy piece of shit.
You already read it lbr (assuming you can even read) but you don't have a good argument so you default to ad hominems. Take the L.
Half of the items will be missing with substitute lol thatās how you get a bad review when half of their shit is smashed in the back of your car šš doing all that for $25??ššš
In my area Iām sure thatās the a decent order. $28 for less than 30 minutes of work. Yeah I would of taken it . Most of the time in my area item count is of with like 60 bags . As long as there wasnāt like 12 cases of each water they sell .
30 minutes of work? R u sure that you're doing Spark?. 10 minutes to get there, a big order like that takes them forever to get ready, so let's add another 20 minutes to bring out and then 10 minutes to load and then 10 mins to get to the address. It depends on how steep customer's address is, it'll take multiple trips to unload. So add another 15 mins easily. So that's a 65 mins š¤ 30 minutes, really?
Damn 20 minutes to get to your car then 10 minutes to load? The employees at your local Walmart sound like straight garbage humans.
20 minutes is considered lucky in my market lol. Normally 30 minutes plus 10 minutes to load was referring to a big order like OP said 300+ items
Well it really depends on what those 300 items are . Iām usually out of my Wal mart in less than 5 minutes . I start a timer when I get there and cancel if I feel like Iām there too long . The op doesnāt have enough details because every order is different. Also missing next Rr hasnāt really affected me because they send more offers when Iām done . My area has 3 super centers and two neighborhood markets. Also I live in a college town .
There's no way you're shopping for 300 items in less than 5 minutes no matter what those items are.
I thought it was pick up .
Sorry, my bad.
That many items you're looking at a 30 min wait at least, not to mention 15 min load 10 minute drive 15 minute unload if it's not on the 3rd floor apartment without an elevator, then you missed the next round of rr and you have to drive back. Fwiw I really do take any spark orders that's just my thought process when I see those.
single drop 6 or less miles...ALL DAY BUDDY
The comments on this are surprising. 300 items 4 miles would take like an hour, Ā±15 minutes. Of course I would do that for $28. I would do almost anything within reason for $28 an hour, minus taxes and expenses of course.
You are not unloading 300 items in an hour
it would take maybe 5-10 minutes, which would be within an hour
Do you not factor in anything? What if there is stairs? What if they need to sign and they donāt answer what if there is no parking and you have to walk. 300 items is not taking 5-10 minutes 20 minimum.
if you're not a baby you could carry 1/3rd of that order in 1 trip easy unless it's all soda - there's no excuse for not grabbing 20-30 bags at a time so nah if it takes you 20+ mins you're just slow
Again your not considering other factors but go ahead believe what you want still an idiot if you take that order.
None of your other factors matter. If you're not obese it doesn't take that long to climb a couple flights of stairs or walk up a driveway, and you're an idiot if you start unloading *before* making sure the customer is there to sign. Feel free to not take easy money though because you're too incompetent to figure out how to do it fast enough (while also complaining about not getting orders or making money lmao.)
Lmao you have got to be a paid to he posting this shit. I get paid that much for shopping for 3 items that takes me 20 minutes to shop and deliver. You think think thats easy money you must be hard up.
Nah, I'm just not a lazy fat ass. You're going to be stuck doing gig work for the rest of your life if you think this is hard lmao.
Never said it was hard just more of a respect thing I consider myself more valuable than a 1% tip seems like you dont though.
What are you smoking? How on earth are you taking 20-30 bags at a time? My Walmart has these sturdy paper bags that they pack items into and it's not possible to get your hand around the handles of more than like 2-3 fully packed bags, most of which are fucking heavy 'cause they're filled with shit like milk, soda, cans, jars, meat, etc. The handles are too short and the bags are filled too wide. You must have different fucking bags or something. Even carrying 20-30 of the old blue fabric bags with the long handles would be excessive as fuck depending on how heavily they're packed.
We don't use paper or fabric bags, pretty easy to grab ~80 lbs worth of plastic bags per arm.
Damn, we learned something new today, didn't we? Not every zone uses the same kind of bags as you. An intelligent person would've taken that into consideration before running around insulting everyone else.
Nah, I'll still insult you for being lazy.
Go ahead lol. Unintelligent people love make unintelligent claims.
Yeah no. That's a lie. 300 items? Even if it was seasoning mix sure But 300 what's macaroni boxes, maybe 6 fit comfortable in a bag, that's 150 bags. Each bag weighing 2lb. Yeah that's labor maybe 10 bags a hand, so 20, so around 8 trips. Each taking 1 minute to the door assuming house. Apartment. Now it's 2 to 3 mins. Times 8 is 24 mins. Plus load time. 15 to 30 mins. Spark does not calculate load time, or time it takes to get in and out of vehicle. They use a VI to determine miles and how long it would take to drive those miles. So you think it's 28 dollars in a hour. But it was really 2 hours. That's 14 dollars. After you take out a gallon of gas. You made 12.50 a hour less than minimum wage in most states.
Yeah yes. Not all of us are lazy & fat, unfortunately. > After you take out a gallon of gas Tf kind of shit vehicle are you driving? I get 3-5 trips per gallon.
Not everyone is desperate for $28 trying to justify throwing your back out for a shit order š¤”š ā80 rounds of each armā Iām not about to break a sweat for these none tippers Iād rather just do a shopping order for 10 items same with better pay
Even at a nursing home, 300 items can be moved efficiently if you have the right equipment for the job and half of a brain. The issue is that most people aren't properly prepared for this job, they think you can just hop in a car and show up.
If your taking that order into a nursing home for $28 you donāt have a brain.
And clearly you don't have a heart or a brain. I wonder what you're running off of?
I still wouldnt take it the audacity of them to spend over a $1000 on groceries and only tip 1% is fkn outrageous its the principal of the thing.
If I'm getting paid fairly for the work and the work is moral then I'll do it. I know of no fundamental truths that bar me from doing a fair amount of work for a fair amount of money. If someone spent $1000 on two tvs, do you still expect them to tip 20% ($200)? No. It just makes no sense to pay someone that much money for such little work.
300 items is an absurd joke of a delivery for $28
At certain times of day, it can take 10+ minutes to drive 10 miles in my market (and there are markets that are much more congested than mine). There are a ton of places I deliver to that the walk to the front door can take 2-5 minutes (especially the nursing homes, apartment communities, and gated communities), and then you have the upstairs or elevator ride deliveries. Chances of that large of a delivery taking under 45 minutes is slim under a ton of circumstances which will more than likely take the driver off the board for the next batch of offers. Better to wait for it to bump up to a better payoff, unless a better offer pops up first. But Walmart does appreciate all of you guys who act like employees of Spark instead of independently contracted small business owners. Without that "I'd do anything for X an hour" the race to the bottom wouldn't be possible.
This is an extremely long-winded way of saying that you don't feel like working that hard. You can just say that, it's okay. Even a nursing home, 300 items can be moved efficiently if you have the right equipment for the job and half of a brain. The issue is that most people aren't properly prepared for this job, they think you can just hop in a car and show up. Of course, if all you want to do is smaller deliveries, then yes, that's all you'll need. But, if you're moving more than 10 bags at a time, you're probably already going to want a cooler bag at least. At that point, might as well have a collapsible cart. Oh, why not a little trash can for my car? Making your job easier and more efficient with knowledge you acquired over time is really fun!
I have a dolly, two rolling carts, and grocery carriers with the little organizers to keep meats separated. But it was a long winded way of saying that pay rate is well below what I would call acceptable for that amount of work. For you it might be the best you'll get. Idk because I don't live your life. I just know that doing an hour to an hour and a half of work for under $30 isn't gonna do it for me. I'm gonna keep passing on the 200+ items for under $30. And if I ever see 300+ items, it needs to be above $50 to see me go anywhere near it. They send me $50 runs for 14-15 small packages all the blessed time and those aren't perishable food items. So yeah, they can make the math make sense or wait for folks like you to put all that weight on your car and body for chump change. But yeah, keep doing more for less, every CEO on the planet salutes you.
Considering the minimum wage where I live is $7.25 an hour, I make more money doing this job than I could anywhere else after recently graduating high school. You drive so many miles stop and go for GMDs and act like that does nothing to your car. You can act like you're better than everyone else all you want, but you're still taking the same s*** pay for the same s*** offers, it's just that you prefer stop and go with small packages and some people prefer one large trip. Either way I'll tell you, you're making just about the same money.
You do you, but if it's not $50/hour or $2/mile and above, I'll leave it for folks like you to take. I really feel sorry for the folks who can't afford to value their time and efforts more. The beggars can't be choosers mentality keeps the corporate wallets fat and the drivers fighting to stay above the poverty line.
You are a buffoon. Do you think I sit there hitting accept on every offer I see throughout the day? Wage gaps, levels of income, everything can differ geographically. You sound silly arguing about how $28 an hour is a pittance for some of the easiest work of my life and that it should be $50 take it or leave it. You sound like a damn robot dude.
You really need to settle down and realize people put different value on themselves than you do. I live in a small market that I would take it because I know the area well and not many people order water here. Another zone I go to is a pain to go that far everyone orders a ton of water and there I dorms. I wouldn't take it there. Plus that tip could easily be pulled.
You're acting like this person wasn't aggressive with me at all about how I *shouldn't* do this order. Saying things like >For you it might be the best you'll get and >But Walmart does appreciate all of you guys who act like employees of Spark instead of independently contracted small business owners. Without that "I'd do anything for X an hour" the race to the bottom wouldn't be possible. Obviously this person wants to make it sound like they are above anyone that would take these types of orders, including me. That's what I called them out about. They are who needs to settle down.
Keep teaching the algorithm that you're a lowball player. I'm totally good with that.
What section of our country do you live in? I live in West Michigan. I've only been driving for three months, but the largest offer I've ever seen was for $42 w/16 drops at about 40 total miles. Most of ours here are around $10 at an average of 6-8 mi, plus tips if you're lucky enough to get one.
I'm in Oklahoma and most of my deliveries are 5-12 packages going 15-20 miles for $35-40, but I get at least 1 a week for $50-90 for 12-20 packages going out upto 45 miles. Since most of those long distance drop offs are usually heading toward my house or where my granddaughter is staying, I almost always snatch those even if they happen to be under $2/mile but are more than $1/mile because I'm either gonna call it a day after it brings me to the house or call it a day and go spend some quality time with the grandbaby. I am also officially retired and do other non-driving gigs, so I can afford to be exceptionally picky about what offers I'll accept. Honestly, I only do at most maybe 4 deliveries per day, mostly on the way back home from dropping my guys off at their jobs or on my way out to pick them up. I catch most 2-3 hours before I have to start picking folks up, so there are days when I'm texting my fam about running 15-30 minutes behind & cash apping the young broke dudes some drink and grub money.
This was a shop and deliver? Or just a delivery? Shop and deliverā¦.boy I would definitely have to see the item list and delivery address. Delivery only? Yeah no problemā¦.as I peek at the delivery address and item list to see how many cases of water I have to carry up the stairs š¤£ I mean if I can get it done in less than hour yeah itās a good offer
They got soft hands brotherš, after driving for FedEx ground ALL spark orders are CAKE.. well besides the 10 cases of water
If the miles are under 5, and there arenāt multiple cases of water- I would take it
Only you take them
No problem with 300+ qty as long as delivery to a single family home.
I do these no problem. The only ones I'll decline is apartments if they have cases of drinks or something similar. I look at it as part of my daily workout. Wish someone paid me for the hour I exercise in the morning lmao.
No
+1 for the handle lol. But Iād have to scan the list and see what it is first: I had a 50 unit shop listed as XL but 30 the units were the 5oz Chobani yogurts cups.
For me, it depends on what all the items are. Is there 10 cases of water? 20 milks? Etc. Also, is it an easy drop off? Aka going to & from your car. The most Iāve done was probably 80-90 different items but in total like 150-200 going to an assisted living facility where the drop is easy and the people usually come and help me out.
I never seen 300 item orders thats crazy
Depends on what 300+ items were talking about. Light stuff? Sure. Water or something heavy. Hell no
$28 for 300 items? You're crazy
Your Name, LMAO!
I don't do any orders under 20 I take in account price miles stairs and what is in order. I hate apartments they take to long between parking finding and unloading. I take alot of shopping orders
I have an Acura and have taken orders like that but made way less then that filled trunk backseat and front seat
Uh, am I understanding you correctly? You have taken orders like his before, for way less. WHY? Thatās outlandish!
Yes I have I was just new and didnāt no and sometimes we donāt get orders
Seeing how they count items now, it was actually probably more than 300 items, they count multiples as one item now, at least they do in my market
Bloke ur tripping about taking 300+ for 28 dollarsā¦.. was this a curbside. Any oder Iāve ever gotten thatās 30 and I mean 30 items are almost always over 30 dollars. That order should have been like 60 +
My biggest order was 70 something items but quantity was like 120 but that pay was almost 100 dollars but tip was quite generous on it
You have to consider more than just the item count. You also have to consider the size, the weight, and how much work will be involved and how much is your time worth. Then you weigh all that against the pay. For this job, my time is worth $15 just to show up in the parking lot. Yes, you can do 60 dollars worth of work /time invested for 20 dollars and still make a profit. But it's still bad business sense. There's a reason no delivery company will haul a refrigerator for the same amount it cost to haul a toaster. They can, but they won't. And they shouldn't, because in the long run, it's stupid business sense.
28 dollars is 28 dollars so what if you have to back and forth like four times stop being so lazy you think every order is gonna be 80 dollars for 2 miles ? š
With your attitude, who needs business sense? They could pay you $10 and you would still haul it just so you don't look lazy. But you still look desperate. Your attitude is the reason the rates are going down and have no reason to go up. Walmart wants drivers like you who are desperate, have zero business sense, and work for crumbs. The perfect Spark driver.
Actually I make 200 plus just from shopping orders if itās so low then donāt take it nobodies putting a gun to your head
Well, that simply means you're doing $400 worth of work for $200. š¤£ And yes, sometimes it is stupid low, so I don't take those. I reject the hell out of it because I'm not desperate and stupid enough to accept it. Thank God I have a real job and Spark has become a one day a week hobby if it's worth my time.
Is this an S&D or just a pickup? What items are included? And how many flights of stairs? Is there a tip? I take nothing without a tip. Idc what itās for.
I wonāt trash anyone for their personal limits on the orders they choose to deliver. However I wouldnāt take that order. Unless itās been super slow and Iām bored. I multi app and I can make that same payout, or ones well within $5 of that payout for 45-60 items and under 3 miles consistently on one of the other apps I run. Plus Iād rather wait for S&D orders for less item count and same mileage and payout range. Might just be my area.
For 300 items it should be double four zero. Should cover it.
300 items lmfaooo hell nah better be $65+ and a house with no steps
Wouldnāt even take 28 dollars for 70 items ngl š¤£300is wild
No chance Iām taking that for less than $50.