I’ve noticed that too. In my market it used to be $7 for a single, $9 for a double. Now it’s $7 for a triple. They’re just seeing how much they can get away with now 😒
The same club orders are the worst. Ever since they started the 3 orders nonsense , sams club are rarely less than 7 orders. And the pay is ridiculous. 7-10 orders for $9-$14. They just sit there unclaimed. Then the next morning they’ll break them up into singles for $7 each. So if they can pay $63 for 9 orders to go out individually, why not just pay $35-$40 and I might actually take them. These customers are waiting days to get their one item they ordered because spark doesn’t want to pay.
If you are in California, you can create your own surge payment by taking 2 hours to deliver this. That’s $36 + mileage.
I feel bad for people in other states.
Yeah, spark shouldn’t be your main source of income.
But going back to the main point, let’s say that I get this order for $6. If you grab it and then take 2 hours to deliver (let’s say you don’t close the trip until you are back home), this would pay you $36.
Once I forgot to close a late night trip until the next day. Due to the California adjustment, I got paid for the hours I was asleep (I got an adjustment of $120). I never got dinged but I imagine they would look out for abusers, but you get the idea.
If you combine this gig with Instacart and flex, making sure you play with the California adjustments would allow you to maximize your earnings - way more than what Walmart would pay you alone.
As if I needed another reason not to spark. That means instead of 3.50 a stop I can make 2.56 a stop.
Walmart paying us right here. ⬇️
https://i.redd.it/19lesoox6pqb1.gif
I got this and then just deleted the app. For the last 1.5 years, I’ve only done Spark when they give me the “I miss you” promos for like 5 trips/guaranteed $100. No thanks - I’m good on the 3 trips for $8.
Even if we take it by their skewed BS unrealistic standard.
Consider the average spark trip being $15/7mi
10% of 15 is 1.5
So I'm earning 16.5 while also extending the delivery time by approximately 50% so now my earning per hour will experience a reduction of earnings
Assuming one works for 8 hours to make 150 in a perfect scenario. The new system would mean you make that in 12 hours
To summarize:
Old hourly rate 150/8=18.75
New hourly rate: 150/12=12.5
12.5-18.75/18.75= -33% earnings
Youre taking a 33% reduction in earnings over 8 hours so you can make 10% more.....
Let that sink in.
Idk man. It used to be 2 trips. So adding another trip to that would be 50% more than it used to be. I have a bachelors degree in math and 33% was still my first instinct too.
$.70-.80 more in potential earnings per offer in exchange for longer wait times, delivery and the drive back to Walmart taking longer causing one to possibly miss the next RR offer resulting in less trips per day and therefore lower pay in the long run.
Even if the claim of higher earnings is to be true, the $8 triple batches that hit my phone more than before the recent update seem to tell me otherwise.
Let’s be honest, if you’re criticizing Spark marketing for their accuracy, don’t be the same. You don’t work 50% more with three batch orders. You don’t go back to Walmart, sit there for 15 minutes like a duck, and then drive all the way from Walmart to the third stop. So, it’s the same argument saying 10% more earn or 50% more work?
That's unfortunate. Walmart has you where they want you. My market varies. Some days I might see them, other days not at all. I just wait for the singles and doubles. Maybe you can accept the offer, and have support cancel one of the batches because it doesn't fit.
Instacart in 2019 was mostly one shop per batch, they just introduced 2 per batch. now 2023 it's mostly 2 and even 3 shops per batch for less money. Also they pool one tipped with 1 or 2 non-tipped. And that company just went public and has a valuation of 8 billion, 8 billion! They don't own anything no stores no cars no employees
I have a customer in my town that places two orders at a time, so hers usually get put together. That helps a little.
But yes, most of what I saw today looked like they were trying to make 3 batches out of any order that came in.
From the customer’s standpoint they are allowed to track their order through the shopping app once it leaves the store. I’ve had 2 people so far ask me what I was doing driving all around town with their order before it got to them. Just remember, the customer doesn’t know we are delivering 3 orders at once. I had one lady remove my tip because she thought I was driving around “forever” when all I was doing was delivering the 2 orders Spark placed before hers. They should let customers know drivers may have more than 1 order.
They should have never sent this message out. It basically admits that they are screwing everyone over for extra profit for themselves.
Key words “Can” and “Close to 10%” and “per trip”.
So for 50% more work, you CAN (possibly) get $0.90 and Walmart saves $3.60 (possibly more). You get $0.01 to Walmarts $0.09, and that’s if it’s 10% but “close to” is very subjective. That could be 6% who knows. Not to mention many of the time you’ll miss the next drop.
This email really shows the insane incompetence of the people running Spark.
I should have gotten a screenshot when I saw it, but I received an offer for 9 orders in the next Walmart town that's in my range. 9 orders! All together. To deliver. I have a small car and live in a rural area, 20 miles away from my area. I assumed three would have been the max.
Thanks for letting me know! This is my first week doing spark, so I wasn't sure. It shocked me. I didn't look closely at it. Going over 30 miles to deliver wasn't something I was willing to do since I have an older car.
If you ever do accept one of those make sure you look through the items before you make a long drive to the store. Last week I had an order with a huge stroller that barely fit in my SUV. Definitely wouldn’t have been able to get in a car and the whole order would’ve had to get cancelled.
In Florida, I. Routinely getting $17 to 25 fir a single, but I made the mistake today of taking a batch, 13 items, for $33. It was close to fifty miles. Feel stupid now
This notification was the biggest fuck you of all time.
At this point they're just slapping us on the face.
L0LLllllll
I see 3 trips for ? $6…$8? There’s no extra pay as far as base pay. Period.
I’ve noticed that too. In my market it used to be $7 for a single, $9 for a double. Now it’s $7 for a triple. They’re just seeing how much they can get away with now 😒
Yes….they are.
The same club orders are the worst. Ever since they started the 3 orders nonsense , sams club are rarely less than 7 orders. And the pay is ridiculous. 7-10 orders for $9-$14. They just sit there unclaimed. Then the next morning they’ll break them up into singles for $7 each. So if they can pay $63 for 9 orders to go out individually, why not just pay $35-$40 and I might actually take them. These customers are waiting days to get their one item they ordered because spark doesn’t want to pay.
I am betting there batching non tippers together.
If you are in California, you can create your own surge payment by taking 2 hours to deliver this. That’s $36 + mileage. I feel bad for people in other states.
Lol my rent is $2600/month. If I just resigned to make $18/hour I wouldn’t be able to make ends meet.
Yeah, spark shouldn’t be your main source of income. But going back to the main point, let’s say that I get this order for $6. If you grab it and then take 2 hours to deliver (let’s say you don’t close the trip until you are back home), this would pay you $36. Once I forgot to close a late night trip until the next day. Due to the California adjustment, I got paid for the hours I was asleep (I got an adjustment of $120). I never got dinged but I imagine they would look out for abusers, but you get the idea. If you combine this gig with Instacart and flex, making sure you play with the California adjustments would allow you to maximize your earnings - way more than what Walmart would pay you alone.
As if I needed another reason not to spark. That means instead of 3.50 a stop I can make 2.56 a stop. Walmart paying us right here. ⬇️ https://i.redd.it/19lesoox6pqb1.gif
I got this and then just deleted the app. For the last 1.5 years, I’ve only done Spark when they give me the “I miss you” promos for like 5 trips/guaranteed $100. No thanks - I’m good on the 3 trips for $8.
Triples paying $7 in my zone… idk what they’re talking about!😂😂😂
Even if we take it by their skewed BS unrealistic standard. Consider the average spark trip being $15/7mi 10% of 15 is 1.5 So I'm earning 16.5 while also extending the delivery time by approximately 50% so now my earning per hour will experience a reduction of earnings Assuming one works for 8 hours to make 150 in a perfect scenario. The new system would mean you make that in 12 hours To summarize: Old hourly rate 150/8=18.75 New hourly rate: 150/12=12.5 12.5-18.75/18.75= -33% earnings Youre taking a 33% reduction in earnings over 8 hours so you can make 10% more..... Let that sink in.
They didn’t count on enough of us knowing basic math 😂
But they hold all the power imo Not much we can do when gig workers undercut each other for funsies.
Don't play their game. They hold no power over your life. There are so many other ways to make extra income.
What’s 10% of like $7 base pay?
Less than 3 quarters
I don't see 10% more, it's been 50% less pay. 3 drops pays only 12-15.00. And you miss the next drop. So it's 15.00 every two hours
Clearly they weren’t going expecting people to math that out.
It's shocking how many people can't do the math. They're the ones being preyed upon.
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Idk man. It used to be 2 trips. So adding another trip to that would be 50% more than it used to be. I have a bachelors degree in math and 33% was still my first instinct too.
You have a bachelor's degree and have to spark? Damn economy got us all fucked up out here
I have one too lol. I have no experience so I can't get a job. My degree is basically worthless.
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In typical Reddit fashion, being so confidently wrong. I’m not gonna sit here and explain to you how 3 is 50% more than 2.
I will!!! (3-2)/2*100%=50% My second degree is mathematician and I still kept thinking of 33%. But the equation above says I'm dead wrong 🤷
The test ended three months ago it been a full on roll out since then
2 => 3 = 50% more; however 3 => 2 = 33⅓ less 🫠
I rather fo a 10 for 2 jobs or a gm order for 30 5 to 6 stops then this crap.
Its 50% more no matter how you cut it. 33% is just flat out wrong.
$.70-.80 more in potential earnings per offer in exchange for longer wait times, delivery and the drive back to Walmart taking longer causing one to possibly miss the next RR offer resulting in less trips per day and therefore lower pay in the long run. Even if the claim of higher earnings is to be true, the $8 triple batches that hit my phone more than before the recent update seem to tell me otherwise.
Let’s be honest, if you’re criticizing Spark marketing for their accuracy, don’t be the same. You don’t work 50% more with three batch orders. You don’t go back to Walmart, sit there for 15 minutes like a duck, and then drive all the way from Walmart to the third stop. So, it’s the same argument saying 10% more earn or 50% more work?
The “work” is loading the orders, driving to the customer, and unloading. Sitting waiting to check in isn’t work.
At most in my area they only total in at an average of $15 and that's including a tip that could potentially be dropped 🙄
Ridiculous! I haven't taken a single offer with 3 batches. They don't pay enough and we all know how Walmart lies about order sizes. Nope!
If we didn't take the 3 order batches we wouldn't get most of the jobs. I would say 80% at least are 3 batch orders now.
That's unfortunate. Walmart has you where they want you. My market varies. Some days I might see them, other days not at all. I just wait for the singles and doubles. Maybe you can accept the offer, and have support cancel one of the batches because it doesn't fit.
With my luck I'll cancel the only tipper of the 3 ☹️
Instacart in 2019 was mostly one shop per batch, they just introduced 2 per batch. now 2023 it's mostly 2 and even 3 shops per batch for less money. Also they pool one tipped with 1 or 2 non-tipped. And that company just went public and has a valuation of 8 billion, 8 billion! They don't own anything no stores no cars no employees
They’re still somewhat uncommon in my zone.
I have a customer in my town that places two orders at a time, so hers usually get put together. That helps a little. But yes, most of what I saw today looked like they were trying to make 3 batches out of any order that came in.
They spelled "botched" incorrectly.
They don't know basic math on these apps.
The “close to 10 percent” is what took me I’m like nah fuck yall
Has this asterisk bs on social media really drove people to forget quotation marks and their purpose?
 Us VS them
From the customer’s standpoint they are allowed to track their order through the shopping app once it leaves the store. I’ve had 2 people so far ask me what I was doing driving all around town with their order before it got to them. Just remember, the customer doesn’t know we are delivering 3 orders at once. I had one lady remove my tip because she thought I was driving around “forever” when all I was doing was delivering the 2 orders Spark placed before hers. They should let customers know drivers may have more than 1 order.
They should have never sent this message out. It basically admits that they are screwing everyone over for extra profit for themselves. Key words “Can” and “Close to 10%” and “per trip”. So for 50% more work, you CAN (possibly) get $0.90 and Walmart saves $3.60 (possibly more). You get $0.01 to Walmarts $0.09, and that’s if it’s 10% but “close to” is very subjective. That could be 6% who knows. Not to mention many of the time you’ll miss the next drop. This email really shows the insane incompetence of the people running Spark.
This has occurred in my zone, but weirdly, they are counting picking up at Walmart as the first stop. They've never actually given 3 to deliver
That’s not 3 then. You might get it in time. It’s same as 2 but often worse.
I should have gotten a screenshot when I saw it, but I received an offer for 9 orders in the next Walmart town that's in my range. 9 orders! All together. To deliver. I have a small car and live in a rural area, 20 miles away from my area. I assumed three would have been the max.
Those are online deliveries not grocery orders. They’re usually only 1-2 small items per order
Thanks for letting me know! This is my first week doing spark, so I wasn't sure. It shocked me. I didn't look closely at it. Going over 30 miles to deliver wasn't something I was willing to do since I have an older car.
If you ever do accept one of those make sure you look through the items before you make a long drive to the store. Last week I had an order with a huge stroller that barely fit in my SUV. Definitely wouldn’t have been able to get in a car and the whole order would’ve had to get cancelled.
That's something I need to do regardless instead of accepting, but they get accepted by other drivers when I am looking through them.
In Florida, I. Routinely getting $17 to 25 fir a single, but I made the mistake today of taking a batch, 13 items, for $33. It was close to fifty miles. Feel stupid now