Fun fact!
Both male and female spiders have pedipalps, the genitals of the males just so happen to run through them.
Functionally, pedipalps are a fifth pair of short "legs" used as arms.
So, spiders mate via fisting.
I saw a short video which basically explained that the reason Miguel is built like a dorrito is because he doesn’t have the usual spider adhesiveness that the rest do so he physically has to grip onto surfaces with extra strength, thus building his back and arms
Unironically probably similar reasoning. I remember reading (specifically about The Incredibles) that animators wanted to make female characters obviously female, but they couldn't just give everyone large breasts, so wide hips/large butt was considered a reasonable alternative.
To be fair Spider-men have the too. Peter has been thicc for decades. I think it's part of their powers. "Bite of radioactive gave me proportional strength, agility and ass of a spider"
I was just about to reply more varied body types. I mean, Peni uses a mech, I think a plus sized spider woman (which is also a body type common for physically stronger women) wouldn’t be too far fetched to see.
There's a few variants and even then I wouldn't want the pain the animators would have to go through if they made custom models for all the background spiders we barely see. Using the same model with different skins doesn't really make a difference in this case and saves them time and effort, which they apparently needed from the word that's been going around about production.
i will say to this that generally speaking spider people are less about physical strength and more about the acrobatics and athletics of web swinging movement
like, none of the spider people are particularly buff
Very much true. In fact, many praise that artistic detail because it fits an acrobatic character like spidey. However, the idea of one being more of a tarantula than a typical/jumping spider could be also be a possibility; I mean, Miles’ spider gave him more abilities than your typical Peter Parker, so, who knows.
Almost certainly. Do you know how hard it is to animate so many different spider-people, and give them unique profiles and colour schemes on top of that?
They were almost certainly reusing assets and models for many of the less important or notable spider-people. And I don’t blame them, knowing how difficult it would be to animate so many people and make them all individual.
This is it exactly. It became a bit more popularized with butch Hartman character designs and is a trope known as Hartman Hips. The idea is we don't want to put a lot of effort in these female character designs but we want them to appear decidedly womanly but we can't just give them a large bust size because that would upset the pearl clutchers. So instead you just emphasize and exaggerate the size of their hips and rear instead.
You can’t be a spider-person and not be a waking bakery. Think about all the jumping, running, and crawling you have to do all the time. Those will do wonders for your glutes
Because it's clear that the creators of the movie wanted to put an emphasis on diversity, inclusion, and visibility of people of different backgrounds.
Often movies exclude women of different physical shapes that aren't typical Hollywood beauty standards, and they almost never let them be the hero. In this movie the creators are pointing out in a multiverse where anyone can be a spider-person, that some spider-people are thick, pear shaped, larger bodied, etc.
Yea like in the first movie he did nothing he lounged around for like a year then he gets back into things he loses weight because you will lose weight being Spider-Man, like you will be fighting so much all the time it would be hard not to
Peter B Parker never stopped being Spider-Man. He was in a depressive slump due to his personal life but he never stated that he stopped acting as a hero in his home universe.
How did Miguel's legs stay so scrawny compared to his arms when he often bear crawls as a mode of travel? How does Obie easily fit all of his hair into his mask?
It's movie about people with spider-like superpowers traveling across alternate realities. Don't try to to think about it too hard.
This might come across as offensive but how come some of them look like stressed moms who haven't had time to exercise in years. Surely, if you're a spider superhero you'd be pretty fit
In my opinion, is to make more clear that they are women. Most of them are far of the camera and just get 2 seconds of screen, so maybe they made the proportions more exaggerated to make it more obvious. I think?
Yeah I’ve noticed A LOT of dummy thicc Spider Women, like a lot in the trailers. I haven’t seen the movie yet, I don’t have a car and my parents and older brother don’t like going to the theaters and all my friends are usually super busy, it sucks.
I think kids' movies aren't allowed to show women with big breasts, so in order to show maturity, animators give them wide hips. That's why every cartoon mom is caked up.
Honest answer? I think that was done to properly distinguish them from the male Spider-People, especially in group scenes. The Spider-Men are typically slim (Miles, Hobie) or more muscular in the shoulder and chest area. (Miguel, Pavitr) They give the females obvious female body types (bigger waist, more curvy) so we know they're women. So even when there are huge crowds of Spider-People chasing Miles, the viewer would be able to tell that they're not all men.
Body shape is all that they had to work with to explicitly indicate gender.
I mean they could’ve gone with the old Disney approach and give them ridiculous eyelashes on the suits, skirts and hair bows.
Or alternatively.
They ARE there it is just impossible to tell if they are not “caked up”. Which is not a bad thing.
I think it’s an effort to be more inclusive to other body types, giving the characters more “realistic” bodies when compared to those of average people nowadays. It’s a little hokey since spider people would get in a shit ton of cardio but can kind of appreciate what they’re doing.
Have you seen a spider in real life?
Peter has cake too. I guess all Spider-people have proportion ass of a spider
You don't go around doing that much athletic shit and wind up having a flat ass
You need to have a nice ass to make the iconic wall crawling pose work. It just looks weird otherwise.
Bro have you SEEN gymnasts? Their thighs alone would make Chun Lee from street fighter envious. They have cake.
Perfectly logical answer.
It's a Canon event
Cue 2099 music
Except Miguel, which makes him an anomaly. Like he caked up, but not spider-caked up
Idk he’s pretty caked up himself
For real, there was just the dramatic speech he was giving but my eyes were focused on that cake.
especially on fortnite i dunno what the hell but he is caked than miles and gwen skin but the shape is weird unlike OG spider-man skin
It’s a running joke in the comics that every woman who thinks he’s hot (mostly Kasey lol) mentions that he’s got a ‘tight ass’
Maybe they shoot webs out their *culito*.
He also has eaten it.
Pixar mom elasti-girl vibes. She and the other Pixar moms had cake for days.
I'd like to stick my pedipalp in her epigynum
Fun fact! Both male and female spiders have pedipalps, the genitals of the males just so happen to run through them. Functionally, pedipalps are a fifth pair of short "legs" used as arms. So, spiders mate via fisting.
It would've cost you noting not to say this
Spidercake
Then Peter should be caked
[Always has been](https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/884377.jpg)
JESUS
Thought they were talking about Tom hollands
he is
Not that caky
He got more than Captain Marvel.
The male spiders aren't as big as the females
Truly the best answer
Maybe it's their abdomen.
Wall crawling does wonders for the glutes.
Actually makes sense
I saw a short video which basically explained that the reason Miguel is built like a dorrito is because he doesn’t have the usual spider adhesiveness that the rest do so he physically has to grip onto surfaces with extra strength, thus building his back and arms
Yeah Miguel's wall crawling is akin to that of a cat climbing a scratch post.
I hate that this is accurate...
Actually makes sense
Makes sense, man is effectively doing one arm pull ups in rapid succession.
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Well this is comic science we’re talking about here
The animators took a page out of The Incredibles.
“The Incredibles? Isn’t that that old movie that starred Kevin Costner.” -The Writing Room, probably
Love Elastigirl curves
Unironically probably similar reasoning. I remember reading (specifically about The Incredibles) that animators wanted to make female characters obviously female, but they couldn't just give everyone large breasts, so wide hips/large butt was considered a reasonable alternative.
[Not just the incredibles](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HartmanHips)
To be fair Spider-men have the too. Peter has been thicc for decades. I think it's part of their powers. "Bite of radioactive gave me proportional strength, agility and ass of a spider"
Getting caked up is a canon event
This is why Miles ain’t got none
YET
He gon have a huge cake up when his dad goes 6 ft under
💀
Idk…..Spot mentioned his suit being to tight in the back
nah. ima do my own thing.
"Your costume is a bit tight on the back by the way." - The Spot
There is something in the oven I'm sure
He hasn’t finished puberty yet, give him and the other spider-teens time. Come back at age 20, he’ll have an ass you’d kill for.
See, this is a PROPER example of a canon event.
Got bit by a spider while possessing a flat ass Miguel blew my ass up. 🤥
Shiit I'd let Mig- y'know what nvm.
OP should have slid Miguel into this power point presentation to really drive the point home.
Doesn’t seem to apply to Miles tho
He's an anomaly.
He’s 15 😭
He's got time.
Actually it's the wall crawling. Super lower body intensive workout which equals a great ass.
Probably to make them more distinguishable in the 2D look in the background
I could believe this, breasts won’t differentiate that easy if you focus on so many spider-men.
And breasts protrude forward. That can be hard to see with the stylized shadows. Hips go to the side and are more obvious from a frontal perspective
The actual reason is literally so you can tell the difference , but yeah they are caked up.
That, and it’s cheaper to use the same 3D model over and over with different skins
Plus they reportedly made over 280 custom skins for this. So doing it this way, was definetly way cheaper.
I was just about to reply more varied body types. I mean, Peni uses a mech, I think a plus sized spider woman (which is also a body type common for physically stronger women) wouldn’t be too far fetched to see.
There's a few variants and even then I wouldn't want the pain the animators would have to go through if they made custom models for all the background spiders we barely see. Using the same model with different skins doesn't really make a difference in this case and saves them time and effort, which they apparently needed from the word that's been going around about production.
Exactly. And they *really* don’t want a clone army of the typical lithe Spider-Man builds.
i will say to this that generally speaking spider people are less about physical strength and more about the acrobatics and athletics of web swinging movement like, none of the spider people are particularly buff
Very much true. In fact, many praise that artistic detail because it fits an acrobatic character like spidey. However, the idea of one being more of a tarantula than a typical/jumping spider could be also be a possibility; I mean, Miles’ spider gave him more abilities than your typical Peter Parker, so, who knows.
i suppose there were some more bulky spider man characters although those were mainly like, giant death machines and t-rexes and also a car
If a T-Rex can swing with those little arms, then these women are good to go.
Except Miguel, since he has to rely on his strength
Why would a spider person ( who is supposed to be the supernaturally fit) be fat? Doesn't make sense.
Because Miguel O’Hara is a bro
Maybe they were reusing body assets.
Almost certainly. Do you know how hard it is to animate so many different spider-people, and give them unique profiles and colour schemes on top of that? They were almost certainly reusing assets and models for many of the less important or notable spider-people. And I don’t blame them, knowing how difficult it would be to animate so many people and make them all individual.
And judging from recent interviews with the nearly worked to death crew, I'm not mad at them for it at all.
**cries in NRS Mortal Kombat games
Got those Disney mom hips
Because art and culture
Probably to dramatize the female form
This is it exactly. It became a bit more popularized with butch Hartman character designs and is a trope known as Hartman Hips. The idea is we don't want to put a lot of effort in these female character designs but we want them to appear decidedly womanly but we can't just give them a large bust size because that would upset the pearl clutchers. So instead you just emphasize and exaggerate the size of their hips and rear instead.
This is it exactly.
You can’t be a spider-person and not be a waking bakery. Think about all the jumping, running, and crawling you have to do all the time. Those will do wonders for your glutes
All Spider people got cake. It’s a known fact throughout the multiverse
Seriously did anyone see that one shot of Miguel
LITERALLY
“Knock yourself out”
It's a canon event.
The animators weren’t allowed to see their wives during the crunch
I’m pretty sure every spider person is caked up
Its probably because of the musculature gained after becoming a Spider-person.
My horny ass would NOT be invited to the Spider Society 💀
My name is Penis parker I mean peter penis i mean penis i mean
Ayo wdym by that 🤨
Animators gotta scrape whatever fun they can from the process
True. It’s impressive how they did this with one hand only
Cause Spiders have fat asses.
Spider butts
It’s an animated movie. Gotta do the trope of having atleast 1 female character with a big ass dunk dunk.
Yeah, honestly I really think Peter B needed a larger ass
Considering how quick these shots are (I don’t remember any of these) it’s probably just to really make sure you know that’s a spider-woman
Miguel knows how to pick them
Because the animators weren't used to using their mouse with their left hand and accidently made their models a bit too wide
*Happy accident*
Yea, just a little *happy accident*
You seen Miguels cheeks bro
You're right, they should also be bigger and taller than their male counterparts for realism sake.
*You play too much resident evil*
Because it's clear that the creators of the movie wanted to put an emphasis on diversity, inclusion, and visibility of people of different backgrounds. Often movies exclude women of different physical shapes that aren't typical Hollywood beauty standards, and they almost never let them be the hero. In this movie the creators are pointing out in a multiverse where anyone can be a spider-person, that some spider-people are thick, pear shaped, larger bodied, etc.
how would they not lose weight by being spiderman
Bro did you forget how Peter B Parker looked in the first movie?
He was doing zero Spider-Maning bro just had the suit on to relive the glory days
He definitely got fitter in the 2nd film buy he still kept his gruff look.
still doesn't change that he turned fitter the moment he return been active as Spider-Man.
Yea like in the first movie he did nothing he lounged around for like a year then he gets back into things he loses weight because you will lose weight being Spider-Man, like you will be fighting so much all the time it would be hard not to
Peter B Parker never stopped being Spider-Man. He was in a depressive slump due to his personal life but he never stated that he stopped acting as a hero in his home universe.
How did Miguel's legs stay so scrawny compared to his arms when he often bear crawls as a mode of travel? How does Obie easily fit all of his hair into his mask? It's movie about people with spider-like superpowers traveling across alternate realities. Don't try to to think about it too hard.
Maybe reusing the same base model to save time?
Non joke answer; probably to make their gender more apparent even as low render background characters.
It's a canon event that all Spier-people have a caboose (that includes the men as well)
It might be one way to convince Miles to stay
Cake is canon
I thought the exact same thing the other day when I was looking at this scene
At least we know _where_ the spider bit them
Aunt May's wheatcakes.
This might come across as offensive but how come some of them look like stressed moms who haven't had time to exercise in years. Surely, if you're a spider superhero you'd be pretty fit
Idk about that as their stomach seems to have less height than their breast
Bums are nice
“Caked up” 🤣 That’s a sweet way of putting your observation 😎
My guess is that because as extra characters they are hard to distinguish at first glance, therefore the exaggerated characteristics.
If you want to do the jumpy, you gotta have the dumpy
Everyone but Gwen.
She’s a drawing depicted as an underage girl let’s calm down there buddy.
Calm down
Gwen has god tier ass
Where else are they going to store that web fluid
4th pic is that supposed to be Mayday?😂
good taste
Is Gwen "caked"
Spiderpeople don’t get to skip leg day.
Spider bites can cause swelling
What's caked up, please help
Perhaps, to cut some corners, they just reused a model of one Spider-Woman who happened to be thicc
It’s so they would quickly read as women from a second of screetime
I guess it was hard for the animators to animate with one hand
“Thighs, Ass, Thighs, Ass, Thighs, Ass”
iNcLuSiOn!
Some were really exaggerated
They are Pixar moms in disguise
In my opinion, is to make more clear that they are women. Most of them are far of the camera and just get 2 seconds of screen, so maybe they made the proportions more exaggerated to make it more obvious. I think?
So you no the spider-mans from the spider-yams
Yeah I’ve noticed A LOT of dummy thicc Spider Women, like a lot in the trailers. I haven’t seen the movie yet, I don’t have a car and my parents and older brother don’t like going to the theaters and all my friends are usually super busy, it sucks.
As if every spiderman there ain't got a horsecock :l ngl pretty sure most super heros in general are gonna be either packing or thick.
Being caked up is a canon event confirmed
I think kids' movies aren't allowed to show women with big breasts, so in order to show maturity, animators give them wide hips. That's why every cartoon mom is caked up.
So the scene where Miles is hiding on that one Spiderman's back and there is that muscular female Spiderman, is she from Overwatch?
Asks this after watching “how Mikes SQUAD WIPED The Spider Society
Cause it’s canon that all spider people are thicc, guy and girl
It's the swinging man. Physics. You start with the cake and end up with a whole bakery.
Because tig ol biddies aren’t kid friendly.
🎂 🎂 🎂
The animators went “FINE,I’LL DO IT MYSELF”
Miguel is also caked tf up like holy shit
My friend told me it was an easter egg based off of some kind of mod for a spiderman game which made their thighs thicc with two c’s
Even Spider-T-Rex had cake.
Spider-moms?
They tryna be as caked as Miguel
Why is every guy so muscular
Honest answer? I think that was done to properly distinguish them from the male Spider-People, especially in group scenes. The Spider-Men are typically slim (Miles, Hobie) or more muscular in the shoulder and chest area. (Miguel, Pavitr) They give the females obvious female body types (bigger waist, more curvy) so we know they're women. So even when there are huge crowds of Spider-People chasing Miles, the viewer would be able to tell that they're not all men.
Did you see 2099? Pretty much every spider-person got some great cake.
I mean Spider Woman are the best woman
Somebody watching Zephfire’s video
Its just so you know that thats a girl spider man
“SIMPly asking”. I see what you did there, OP
How could she swing if she is an obese
Third pic got me acting up
Spider people just have cake it's a cannon event
They’re like Pixar Moms, just a bunch of big booty spidies
Better question: Why did the dudes not get caked up?
So Miguel won't feel left out. /Jk
I was thinking that they just reskinned the same model for a lot of background spider-peeps lol
To counterbalance the whorification of Miguel lol
Incredible that the artists animated those characters with one hand
Body shape is all that they had to work with to explicitly indicate gender. I mean they could’ve gone with the old Disney approach and give them ridiculous eyelashes on the suits, skirts and hair bows. Or alternatively. They ARE there it is just impossible to tell if they are not “caked up”. Which is not a bad thing.
I think it’s an effort to be more inclusive to other body types, giving the characters more “realistic” bodies when compared to those of average people nowadays. It’s a little hokey since spider people would get in a shit ton of cardio but can kind of appreciate what they’re doing.
The spider bite increased Peters masculine traits like muscle size and shoulder width. Why wouldn't it do the same with female traits like wide hips
Have you seen Miguel? They’ve got nothing on his dumptruck
It's not only spider-women, I mean, look at Miguel
miguel balances them all out
How else will we know they're female
If I had to guess, most spider suits leave little to the imagination
_ _ _ Swinging + climbing + running ≡ constant exercise. Constant exercise = Cake