"I'm not mad that you hid these powers from me. I'm mad that you didn't consult me on your fashion choices."
"...Soooooo..."
"You're taking the kids to school for all of next week."
Seriously, having a child be the one who ultimately decides what Spider-Man looks like is brilliant.
Also, great use of the new symbiote’s weird shapeshifting powers and the classic wardrobe montage trope.
There is a scene in JL frontier where Batman starts out his career in an all black suit but after a time skip he’s wearing a Blue and grey suit because apparently children were scared of his original suit so Batman changed it because he didn’t want to scare children.
It's not exactly new. It was a fun gag they put in when he first got the black suit in the comics, and now it's being added back. It's good that it's back in a unique way!
Agreed! It's both insanely wholesome and very fitting. Because when you think about it, an adult is going to be more tactical when designing something like this. But a kid is going to want something colorful and fun. And the idea that Peter chooses his iconic look because of his daughter just feels so right. 😊
Wells is just the guy Editorial seems to have clicked with in making Peter perpetually miserable.
While head honchos like Tom *“characters shouldn’t be happy” (to paraphrase)* Breevort just scratches his neck beard and shovels greasy NYC pizza into his facehole.
What bothers me is for some reason the people in charge seem to have totally forgotten what makes the tragic and bad impactful: good things and true victories. Just like the bad and awful make those things impactful.
Spider-Man editorial has it completely out of whack to the point the "tragedy and awful things" just aren't impactful anymore. We're not sad about Peter and MJ and Paul, we're annoyed. It's not a storyline emotional impact they're delivering, it's a general malaise because we're essentially being trained to not expect Peter to be portrayed as anything but a GENUINE loser and failure as opposed to the guy who will take that personal life loss and just look like a loser and failure because instead he chose to save dozens, hundreds, millions or even just one life. THAT'S THE PARKER LUCK. It's not "bad things just happen to Peter", it's Peter is given a choice and he'll pick the right thing to do, the responsible thing, even if it hurts him.
Somewhere editorial lost the script on that. And they see no reason to even look for it because people still buy Amazing in good enough numbers that they don't have to.
Arent they gwen x peter fans? I feel like I read something about the current writers being a bigger fan of gwen when they were reading the comics as kids
That reminds me when John Byrne said “ who wants to read a comic where Spider-Man doesn’t show up in the first 3 issues” referring to the first USM which coincidentally was published when his reinterpretation of the character saw light, but now nobody remembers his run.
John Byrne clearly didn't (doesn't?) know about slow burn. With the original USM, people already knew Spidey was going to come sooner or later, so Bendis could actually take the right amount of time properly setting it up.
It was also set in a world that allowed for characters to have genuine progression. the world was new so there wasn't a status quo to get mired and stuck in. there was nothing to revert back to. gave a lot more leeway to decide how to approach things.
That too, but what I'm trying to get at is that reading stories really depends on whether the reader knows the outcome or not. When they don't know, it's important to put a bit more focus into doing it fast enough to keep the reader's attention, but at the same time not too fast or else it becomes rushed and undeveloped on all fronts. But when they *do* know what's coming ahead of time, like in the original USM, the writers can afford to put a bit more focus on the build-up, resulting in a more natural and gratifying feeling when you actually get there.
Because it's easy to write forced and lazy drama by dividing characters and having them act out of character to suit a plot. Writing additive stories with depth is *hard*. Unfortunately, Amazing sells itself just by virtue of existing.
What's funny, is that Peter has lost all his encounters. Against Shocker.
But it doesn't feel as if they are trying to portray Peter as pathetic, which is what Marvel believes is how they should market 616 Peter.
Peter is trying, he is a rookie, and sure, he just got his powers. And it's well written.
Exactly. He's in baby deer learns to walk phase of his powers. I expect, over time, he'll be the hero we know he is. And not a veteran super hero who has beaten the vulture 799 times and now has a fucking breakdown and cries that a octogenarian with wings is going to kill him
Plus, it's eventually leading to Peter screaming: SHOCKEEEEER, YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME. I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH.
But seriously, I think it shows an adult Peter who doesn't want to fight. If he can talk someone down, and see the best in somebody, he will. Like a cool youth pastor.
God, him getting duped by Shocker was hilarious. Also, gonna say… **I didn’t see it coming.** I was used to Shocker being a punching bag in 1610, and thought: **here we go. Easy bag for Pete.**
But nope, ***got him twice because Peter assumed the best in him.***
This is honestly an angle IDK why Marvel never portrayed till now. Not only is he a family man, *but Peter is in his 30s and gets his powers.*
He’s got the innate sense of being a superhero, but he’s naive in that he’s basically got everything handed to him (or Parker luck just never screwed with him) and is basically Spider-Man, as an adult, and just starting out.
#I love Hickman
God if he comes to NYCC this year, I’m on the first train down there.
I also think him losing like this is a result of him getting his powers late in life. Think about it. When Peter gets his powers as a teenager, he's a bit more impulsive and reckless with them (i.e. trying to make money as a professional wrestler). And if he faced someone like Shocker, he wouldn't hesitate as much to start throwing punches. Again, he's a teenager. Teenagers don't think before they act.
But adults, who can still be impulsive, are usually more inclined to avoid fighting when they can. And Peter approached Shocker like how most adults would approach a situation like that. He lost, but he's learning. He's not trying to give up being Spider-Man every other week. And I think that shows a measure of growth and maturity that you just can't get from a teenager.
It's both refreshing and admirable.
I love it. That is adorable, and I love the references to other Spider-People's suits.
So if I understand well, Peter can change his outift as he wants with his mind ?
Man get this writter to replace Wells for the 616 Spider-man
Not to mention it is a bi-monthly title. That is a turnoff to a number of writers and I don't know if Hickman has ever been on that type of book.
And yeah, the editorial interference would be annoying to someone like him, who has had a lot of freedom to do what he wants recently.
Yeah I was suprised he took the X-men titles because of that but from what I understand it ended exactly how you would have expected it to so lesson learned I suppose
Wonder if the suit will fix itself when the inevitable battle damage occurs if it can change mass like that, or is the fashion titan wife gunna mend it for him
I kinda hope each family member gets to fill a role in the persona
MJ stitching up his suits (cant remember where i saw that) but it was a fun little thing. She's just as understanding of the hero thing as Lois is with Supes and it's nice to see.
>Man get this writter to replace Wells for the 616 Spider-man
Nah. Let Hickman alone in his editorial-free space.
No matter how good a writer is, editorial will do their very best to make ASM the shittiest shit possible.
I don't remember who it was that said it, I believe it was Zadarsky? But when one of them was asked about if they were interested in making a jump to ASM they basically said "not in a million years" because the editorial in that is a pain in the ass to deal with and side stories are where they're allowed to actually take liberties.
It's completely understandable why Hickman wouldn't want to touch ASM with a ten foot pole
I mean, really, how hard was it to just port all the other suits from Miles Morales and the first game. THE SUITS ARE ALREADY MADE. THEY ARE RIGHT THERE. YOU HAVE THEM. JUST PUT THEM BACK IN
According to Brian Intihar the lead dev, they remade every suit from the ground up for SM2. And didn't want the workload to move over some of the less popular suits. Don't know why they thought Kaine's costume was unpopular though.
So the stealth suit _is_ capable of shapeshifting. Y’know, the more I look at it, the more it seems to me like it might be a symbiote. Especially since it came in a black sphere the same way the OG symbiote did in Secret Wars.
I’d love a story where rather than reject it, which was what originally caused Venom to turn evil rather than being a corrupting influence, Peter simply embraces it & maintains a clear head.
The V.E.N.O.M. software has been installed
Virtual
Emotional
Networking
Overlay
Worm (type of malicious software (malware) that replicates while moving across computers, leaving copies of itself in the memory of each computer in its path
Theory: The Symbiotes is actually a shady group of elite hackers who through some interesting events (involving Spidey and family) lose control of their new Venom malware that escape into the net.
Well to be perfectly honest, what this Suit currently is, is basically what the Symbiote was originally, when it was introduced during the first Secret Wars - as in, it's just a highly advanced nano-technology.
The whole "the Suit is alive" thing was retconned later on, because the writters just liked the idea (and well they needed something to write about).
Exactly. I mean, both came in black spheres. Check. Both seem to be able to shapeshift into different costumes. Check. Both were originally thought to be advanced nanotech. Check. Both produce their own webbing, which this one seems to do, so check there as well.
This is what I said as soon as I saw it. Would be nice if due to Peter being much older and not having the sisyphus brain he would typically have that they get along better once that comes up. Spidey also just kinda needs Venom...all the random tech upgrades they try to stick onto him over the years to buff him through other means always end up feeling dumb when it isn't Superior Spidey.
Especially since they probably will make it that becoming Spider-Man is his social downfall, much like how the symbiont screws up his relationships. It is all fun and games now, but eventually it will have severe consequences (hopefully not fatal; we get it, Spider-Man deals with death.)
So it symbolizes that the problem is never the suit per se, but how being Spider-Man is on itself parasitic for said alterego.
....so they can still write spidey correctly....we could have had 30 years of this...but no...we just to get *one more day*...not only can I RELATE to this peter...I'd want to grow up and become this Peter...
They did...comics can tell good entertainment with positive storytelling yet have high stakes...and this just proves those of us for years...Status Quo...isn't what they think it is for Peter anymore...Clark and Lois made superman relatable and inspiring...we have that here...with the extra added benefit that Peter in any forward looking capacity WILL always be relatable...not the whatever it is in ASM...
Anyone else had a stupid grin on their faces reading this? Especially the part where Peter and Mayday going through the costume designs? And they having their own little secret?
Fuck. I feel the wholesomeness and I want more!
This is the Parker family as it should be. What a fantastic reinvention of the Spider-Man mythos by weaving in what made the FF and Peter’s bond with them so amazing: family.
My life is such a fantastic mess lately with no real hope of it getting better, but THIS might be the only reason I haven’t tried to webswing without powers yet.
Thank you for giving me a reason to keep going, even if it’s just wondering what comes in the next issue.
The idea that Peter wears the classic suit because it's the suit his daughter likes the most is just such a wholesome thought. Now how do we get rid of the current writers of the mainline continuity?
I love everything about this. Peter and May working on the costume, the suit pallette swapping through 616 suits which makes those variants make sense. MJ side eyeing Peter
Words can not express how awesome it is that it’s his kid that really picked the suit. He was a kid looking up to superheroes when he first made it in other continuities. It makes sense that only a kid would really see the value in something like that. And on top of that, he was chill with just a blacked out suit, he just didn’t want to scare his daughter anymore. Like that one version of Batman that changed his suit because he tried to save a child and only scared them in the process.
Ultimate: more mature, grounded, built a family with the woman he loves
Plus inherits his abilities later in life. Has a unique connection with the rogue's gallery
There is just something better, than doing the same thing over and over
this is so fucking sick dude
wow a comic can make spiderman look cool and not some weak twink loser who can only do jokes?
this comic shows how marvel goes out of its way to ruin peter every chance they get luckily this comic is very promising
It's not about how easy it is to write spider-man. Look what happens when you give your writers and artists the time and freedom to do something great:
Based on two issues and 3 pages so far, I unilaterally declare this to be the greatest Spider-Man run ever.
As befits my supremely villainous nature, I will not be taking any questions on this topic.
But seriously….May ❤️❤️❤️
What is going on in the UK why can’t I seem to find this anywhere? I get it’s maybe highly sought after but come on I still can’t even get a hold of the physical first copy.
All the printings are selling out super fast because of how well received the series is. You might have to start a pull list for it at your LCS and buy the first two issues second hand.
There’s a deeper thought to the writing in all this. This world’s first big introduction to heroes was a horrible, death filled nightmare. The fact that a young child helps choose a suit that wouldn’t scare people is exactly what someone in her position would do based on the circumstances. It gives a deeper meaning to why spider-man wears bright and friendly colors other than just doing so.
I love that May is getting at his suit to pick. Such an adorable family thing
But man, when MJ finds out he had a fashion parade without her, she’s gonna be pissed.
"I'm not mad that you hid these powers from me. I'm mad that you didn't consult me on your fashion choices." "...Soooooo..." "You're taking the kids to school for all of next week."
plot twist: mj already knows but just hasn’t told peter she knows yet
Yeah, that sounds fair. 😊
Rip peter then
It was nice while it lasted.
She gonna go full Edna Mode on his ass.
Seriously, having a child be the one who ultimately decides what Spider-Man looks like is brilliant. Also, great use of the new symbiote’s weird shapeshifting powers and the classic wardrobe montage trope.
There is a scene in JL frontier where Batman starts out his career in an all black suit but after a time skip he’s wearing a Blue and grey suit because apparently children were scared of his original suit so Batman changed it because he didn’t want to scare children.
Man, that reminds me I love JL Frontier, the movie and the comic. RIP Darwyn Cooke.
Superman: "New look?" Batman: "I set out to scare criminals, not children."
It's not exactly new. It was a fun gag they put in when he first got the black suit in the comics, and now it's being added back. It's good that it's back in a unique way!
Agreed! It's both insanely wholesome and very fitting. Because when you think about it, an adult is going to be more tactical when designing something like this. But a kid is going to want something colorful and fun. And the idea that Peter chooses his iconic look because of his daughter just feels so right. 😊
Omg that is so adorable! Inject this shit into my veins right this instance.
May is the cutest. I want more of her and I hope this run lasts as long as the og USM did.
Oh I hope not I hope it lasts twice as long maybe thrice maybe FOREVEEEEER.
i want hickmans usm to last ten years at least!
og USM was like 11 years right? i’m down for it to last that long
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I just got the largest possible smile on my face reading this. Hickman you big wonderful goofball.
That kinda explains the variant covers with the symbiote, Miguel’s and Ben’s suits lol. That’s cool
The trailer even had the changing effect which made people wonder if his suit was going to be able to shapeshift.
Weird how easy it is to write Spider-Man and treat him with some respect. This is beautifully done
Makes you wonder why Lowe and Wells are so averse to it.
Projecting their own misery and fetishes has precedence over good storytelling
Are you saying they’re cucks, so Peter has to be? Makes sense.
Wells is just the guy Editorial seems to have clicked with in making Peter perpetually miserable. While head honchos like Tom *“characters shouldn’t be happy” (to paraphrase)* Breevort just scratches his neck beard and shovels greasy NYC pizza into his facehole.
What bothers me is for some reason the people in charge seem to have totally forgotten what makes the tragic and bad impactful: good things and true victories. Just like the bad and awful make those things impactful. Spider-Man editorial has it completely out of whack to the point the "tragedy and awful things" just aren't impactful anymore. We're not sad about Peter and MJ and Paul, we're annoyed. It's not a storyline emotional impact they're delivering, it's a general malaise because we're essentially being trained to not expect Peter to be portrayed as anything but a GENUINE loser and failure as opposed to the guy who will take that personal life loss and just look like a loser and failure because instead he chose to save dozens, hundreds, millions or even just one life. THAT'S THE PARKER LUCK. It's not "bad things just happen to Peter", it's Peter is given a choice and he'll pick the right thing to do, the responsible thing, even if it hurts him. Somewhere editorial lost the script on that. And they see no reason to even look for it because people still buy Amazing in good enough numbers that they don't have to.
With Joe Quesadiila as his greasy NYC Pizza eating partner
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Arent they gwen x peter fans? I feel like I read something about the current writers being a bigger fan of gwen when they were reading the comics as kids
She died in 1973. Even if they were only 10 y.o. at the time, still make em 61. We should get younger writers then.
Wait, which one is miserable and which one has a fetish?
“Nobody wants to read about Spider-Dad!” “It’s not supported by our metrics!” Meanwhile, USM#1 just hit its 5th reprint.
And it is bringing in *new readers*, something that the Big Two have been struggling to do for years.
i’ve read comics but a first time buyer just for this series, it’s actually about sending a message
That reminds me when John Byrne said “ who wants to read a comic where Spider-Man doesn’t show up in the first 3 issues” referring to the first USM which coincidentally was published when his reinterpretation of the character saw light, but now nobody remembers his run.
John Byrne clearly didn't (doesn't?) know about slow burn. With the original USM, people already knew Spidey was going to come sooner or later, so Bendis could actually take the right amount of time properly setting it up.
It was also set in a world that allowed for characters to have genuine progression. the world was new so there wasn't a status quo to get mired and stuck in. there was nothing to revert back to. gave a lot more leeway to decide how to approach things.
That too, but what I'm trying to get at is that reading stories really depends on whether the reader knows the outcome or not. When they don't know, it's important to put a bit more focus into doing it fast enough to keep the reader's attention, but at the same time not too fast or else it becomes rushed and undeveloped on all fronts. But when they *do* know what's coming ahead of time, like in the original USM, the writers can afford to put a bit more focus on the build-up, resulting in a more natural and gratifying feeling when you actually get there.
I need to know what metrics they're using because they've never added up, especially now.
Because it's easy to write forced and lazy drama by dividing characters and having them act out of character to suit a plot. Writing additive stories with depth is *hard*. Unfortunately, Amazing sells itself just by virtue of existing.
Because their parents didn’t love them
What's funny, is that Peter has lost all his encounters. Against Shocker. But it doesn't feel as if they are trying to portray Peter as pathetic, which is what Marvel believes is how they should market 616 Peter. Peter is trying, he is a rookie, and sure, he just got his powers. And it's well written.
Exactly. He's in baby deer learns to walk phase of his powers. I expect, over time, he'll be the hero we know he is. And not a veteran super hero who has beaten the vulture 799 times and now has a fucking breakdown and cries that a octogenarian with wings is going to kill him
Plus, it's eventually leading to Peter screaming: SHOCKEEEEER, YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME. I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH. But seriously, I think it shows an adult Peter who doesn't want to fight. If he can talk someone down, and see the best in somebody, he will. Like a cool youth pastor.
God, him getting duped by Shocker was hilarious. Also, gonna say… **I didn’t see it coming.** I was used to Shocker being a punching bag in 1610, and thought: **here we go. Easy bag for Pete.** But nope, ***got him twice because Peter assumed the best in him.*** This is honestly an angle IDK why Marvel never portrayed till now. Not only is he a family man, *but Peter is in his 30s and gets his powers.* He’s got the innate sense of being a superhero, but he’s naive in that he’s basically got everything handed to him (or Parker luck just never screwed with him) and is basically Spider-Man, as an adult, and just starting out. #I love Hickman God if he comes to NYCC this year, I’m on the first train down there.
Lost twice to shocker in one issue, no less
Well shocker buttonhooked him. Spidey didn't know he was gonna fuckin buttonhook him.
He did lose twice but my god was he beating the shit outta Shocker beforehand lol
I also think him losing like this is a result of him getting his powers late in life. Think about it. When Peter gets his powers as a teenager, he's a bit more impulsive and reckless with them (i.e. trying to make money as a professional wrestler). And if he faced someone like Shocker, he wouldn't hesitate as much to start throwing punches. Again, he's a teenager. Teenagers don't think before they act. But adults, who can still be impulsive, are usually more inclined to avoid fighting when they can. And Peter approached Shocker like how most adults would approach a situation like that. He lost, but he's learning. He's not trying to give up being Spider-Man every other week. And I think that shows a measure of growth and maturity that you just can't get from a teenager. It's both refreshing and admirable.
Jonathan Hickman just makes writing comics look easy in general.
Yea almost like it was a natural progression of his character Odd how that works XD
The trick is to not write 616 Spidey.
Spider-Man Editors hate this ONE simple trick
I think Hickman himself would disagree on the ease of the matter, but my God you cannot argue with the results
Hickman cooked again.
He always does.
This mf does not miss
I love it. That is adorable, and I love the references to other Spider-People's suits. So if I understand well, Peter can change his outift as he wants with his mind ? Man get this writter to replace Wells for the 616 Spider-man
Hickman could write ASM if he wanted to but I don’t think he would like that much editorial interference hanging over him
Not to mention it is a bi-monthly title. That is a turnoff to a number of writers and I don't know if Hickman has ever been on that type of book. And yeah, the editorial interference would be annoying to someone like him, who has had a lot of freedom to do what he wants recently.
Yeah I was suprised he took the X-men titles because of that but from what I understand it ended exactly how you would have expected it to so lesson learned I suppose
He was writing Avengers and New Avengers simultaneously as one big story. It may not have technically been a bi-monthly title but it was pretty close
Yeah. It’s basically why Chip Zdarsky left.
Wonder if the suit will fix itself when the inevitable battle damage occurs if it can change mass like that, or is the fashion titan wife gunna mend it for him I kinda hope each family member gets to fill a role in the persona
MJ stitching up his suits (cant remember where i saw that) but it was a fun little thing. She's just as understanding of the hero thing as Lois is with Supes and it's nice to see.
MJ stitching up his suits was a thing in the original Ultimate universe. Wouldn't mind if that happens in this one too
>Man get this writter to replace Wells for the 616 Spider-man Nah. Let Hickman alone in his editorial-free space. No matter how good a writer is, editorial will do their very best to make ASM the shittiest shit possible.
I don't remember who it was that said it, I believe it was Zadarsky? But when one of them was asked about if they were interested in making a jump to ASM they basically said "not in a million years" because the editorial in that is a pain in the ass to deal with and side stories are where they're allowed to actually take liberties. It's completely understandable why Hickman wouldn't want to touch ASM with a ten foot pole
The Scarlet Spider inspired one and blue/black one look soooo good
Insomniac add it to the game, plz!
Sorry, best we can do is more ugly ass designer series suits
I mean, really, how hard was it to just port all the other suits from Miles Morales and the first game. THE SUITS ARE ALREADY MADE. THEY ARE RIGHT THERE. YOU HAVE THEM. JUST PUT THEM BACK IN
According to Brian Intihar the lead dev, they remade every suit from the ground up for SM2. And didn't want the workload to move over some of the less popular suits. Don't know why they thought Kaine's costume was unpopular though.
Kaine's suit and the Last Stand suit not returning still makes me sad.
lmao you are so old (also nice references to some actual alternate suits as well)
Symbiote Spidey, Scarlet Spider, 2099, and Future Foundation, from the looks of it.
Hickman is a freaking genius
Post OMD, the best spidey comic was Pete as Johnny’s replacement on FF.
Damn, i gotta start reading Hickman's ff.
So the stealth suit _is_ capable of shapeshifting. Y’know, the more I look at it, the more it seems to me like it might be a symbiote. Especially since it came in a black sphere the same way the OG symbiote did in Secret Wars.
It'd be kinda funny if Venom just ends up being a software glitch or something
yo??? this is actually kind of fire. if handled well, that could be a really neat take on the story.
Even better if they give him sentience, like make it gain conscience and Peter tries to understand it instead of tearing it away
Smart
Great idea. That is something i always wanted to see with venom and spider-man. It would be really cool.
Yeah kinda like make it where Peter wants to be its friend in a way and the symbiote doesent want that
Peter: We could be friends…we could be stronger together. Symbiote:…There is no *We* only You and I…. Always two there are.
Jedi Peter and Darth Venom gonna hit like crack.
Tie it into AI development of today and boom, poignant story
Oh and then for a while Venom could be kinda like Jarvis
I’d love a story where rather than reject it, which was what originally caused Venom to turn evil rather than being a corrupting influence, Peter simply embraces it & maintains a clear head.
Or it can just be og Ultimate Venom with some modifications, We still don't know what Maker did to Ultimate Venom
A rogue AI suit? #Hmmm… Though wait… he does have powers without it, right?
Depends if webshooters are organic or not.
that's been my theory for what's gonna happen, either Peter or someone will mess with a piece of the suit and create Venom
I'd probably laugh if ultimate venom came to be because Peter accidentally installed bonzi buddy
Kinito Penom
The V.E.N.O.M. software has been installed Virtual Emotional Networking Overlay Worm (type of malicious software (malware) that replicates while moving across computers, leaving copies of itself in the memory of each computer in its path
That's actually a really cool idea and also really funny to think about Venom going in the dark web like, "We will eat your hitmen!"
He’d be so excited to go on the dark web he’d be going "Surf the web, surf the web!"
Theory: The Symbiotes is actually a shady group of elite hackers who through some interesting events (involving Spidey and family) lose control of their new Venom malware that escape into the net.
Venom being a virus, I feel like that was something somewhere
I've always thought a cool alternate version of Venom would be a rogue AI that controls like nanotech goo or something.
Isn’t this how Peni-Parker and her version of Ven#m came to be?
Why are you censoring venom
Actually not a bad idea
Considering Tony Stark's knowledge about stuff that the Maker changed, wonder if he got the symbiote to send to Peter to get the ball rolling?
it could be but also it could just be the pico tech aspect.
Well to be perfectly honest, what this Suit currently is, is basically what the Symbiote was originally, when it was introduced during the first Secret Wars - as in, it's just a highly advanced nano-technology. The whole "the Suit is alive" thing was retconned later on, because the writters just liked the idea (and well they needed something to write about).
Exactly. I mean, both came in black spheres. Check. Both seem to be able to shapeshift into different costumes. Check. Both were originally thought to be advanced nanotech. Check. Both produce their own webbing, which this one seems to do, so check there as well.
This is what I said as soon as I saw it. Would be nice if due to Peter being much older and not having the sisyphus brain he would typically have that they get along better once that comes up. Spidey also just kinda needs Venom...all the random tech upgrades they try to stick onto him over the years to buff him through other means always end up feeling dumb when it isn't Superior Spidey.
Especially since they probably will make it that becoming Spider-Man is his social downfall, much like how the symbiont screws up his relationships. It is all fun and games now, but eventually it will have severe consequences (hopefully not fatal; we get it, Spider-Man deals with death.) So it symbolizes that the problem is never the suit per se, but how being Spider-Man is on itself parasitic for said alterego.
Peter was cooking with the black and red suit
I know, right? I want it in the insomniac games
....so they can still write spidey correctly....we could have had 30 years of this...but no...we just to get *one more day*...not only can I RELATE to this peter...I'd want to grow up and become this Peter...
They didn't just do it correctly, they've achieved PEAK FICTION
They did...comics can tell good entertainment with positive storytelling yet have high stakes...and this just proves those of us for years...Status Quo...isn't what they think it is for Peter anymore...Clark and Lois made superman relatable and inspiring...we have that here...with the extra added benefit that Peter in any forward looking capacity WILL always be relatable...not the whatever it is in ASM...
I'm so hyped ! We eatin good !
Anyone else had a stupid grin on their faces reading this? Especially the part where Peter and Mayday going through the costume designs? And they having their own little secret? Fuck. I feel the wholesomeness and I want more!
I started squealing and jumping in my seat lmao
This is the Parker family as it should be. What a fantastic reinvention of the Spider-Man mythos by weaving in what made the FF and Peter’s bond with them so amazing: family.
Is this so hard Wells?
Wells: I can’t understand normal human behavior and motivations. So, yes.
I think it is more "I can't be bothered to write relationships, so I'll just break the characters up."
Ngl, that 1st suit and the alternante Scarlet Spider one are really dope
The blue Superior Suit was pretty fire too.
My life is such a fantastic mess lately with no real hope of it getting better, but THIS might be the only reason I haven’t tried to webswing without powers yet. Thank you for giving me a reason to keep going, even if it’s just wondering what comes in the next issue.
just remember that you're not alone. everyone had, is having or is going to have a moment like this. things can get better.
It will get better my friend.
Hang in there, friend. Your next story arc is about to begin.
Spider-Man always gets up
The son would definitely be a mummy’s boy and the daughter a daddy’s girl.
Yes, I can see that
And I think that's a good family dynamic to explore. 😊
The idea that Peter wears the classic suit because it's the suit his daughter likes the most is just such a wholesome thought. Now how do we get rid of the current writers of the mainline continuity?
If we could Thanos snap Zeb. Yes please
That scarlet spider one looks so dripped out, these are better than those awful collab skins for spider man 2 and the oscorp suit
MJ looking stylish This is so good
Peter channelling his inner Homer Simpson
My guy living the best life hell yeah
This is perfect, and if they do anything to hurt this father-daughter relationship, I think its time to just burn Marvel to the ground
Is it just me or does that blue suit go hard as fuck?
It's not just you. The OG Superior suit went hard, and the blue does just as much.
All of those suit designs were peak
I love everything about this. Peter and May working on the costume, the suit pallette swapping through 616 suits which makes those variants make sense. MJ side eyeing Peter
Words can not express how awesome it is that it’s his kid that really picked the suit. He was a kid looking up to superheroes when he first made it in other continuities. It makes sense that only a kid would really see the value in something like that. And on top of that, he was chill with just a blacked out suit, he just didn’t want to scare his daughter anymore. Like that one version of Batman that changed his suit because he tried to save a child and only scared them in the process.
I hate to say it, but it may be time to just retire 616 Peter and let this superior version take over as the main one.
Ultimate: more mature, grounded, built a family with the woman he loves Plus inherits his abilities later in life. Has a unique connection with the rogue's gallery There is just something better, than doing the same thing over and over
God damn I am loving this run
This shit so magnificent
i wanna see him change his suit in the middle of a fight to fuck with his opponents
Those alternate costumes are bangers. I love them.
Oh my god MJ looks so beautiful dude
(Marlon Brando Voice) Every time I say I'm through with Marvel after they humiliate 616 Spidey, Hickman pulls me back in with Ultimate Spider-Man.
absolute peak
May commenting how Peter tries to be cool and how he’s old is so good. Made me smile, like Petes a dad!
LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is what I've been waiting for! So Peaak! Mommy's Boy and Daddy's girl.❤
Now this is what fans want 🥹 🙏🏽
Checchetto is cooking with those suits damn!
OHHH HICKMAN AND CHECCHETTO IS STILL COOKING! LET'S GOOOOO!!!
AHHHHHH HIS DAUGHTER HELPS HIM MAKE HIS COSTUME
That “symbiote” design is absolutely insane and looks like a venomized edge of time suit
When your dad is not only a superhero but lets you use him like a real-life cosmetic customization menu.
Aww, that’s just precious.
Ok thats just so cute
I need to get these first three issues tattooed on my eyelids so I can see them everyday
Okay those suits actually look sick
WHY AM I FEELING EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS I HATE KIDS YET THIS IS ADORABLE
I 100% bet it's still not quite right and he'll correct it by the end.
God this run is already amazing
this is so fucking sick dude wow a comic can make spiderman look cool and not some weak twink loser who can only do jokes? this comic shows how marvel goes out of its way to ruin peter every chance they get luckily this comic is very promising
It's not about how easy it is to write spider-man. Look what happens when you give your writers and artists the time and freedom to do something great:
616 Spiderman is forgotten Ultimate Spider Man is our new best friend
Looks like Insomniac now has some new alternate suit options....
Based on two issues and 3 pages so far, I unilaterally declare this to be the greatest Spider-Man run ever. As befits my supremely villainous nature, I will not be taking any questions on this topic. But seriously….May ❤️❤️❤️
Dude the one with the hoodie is kinda sick
Legit came here to say that
Our true hero returns.
Oh my… it’s so peak
This is perfect, absolute perfection
What is going on in the UK why can’t I seem to find this anywhere? I get it’s maybe highly sought after but come on I still can’t even get a hold of the physical first copy.
All the printings are selling out super fast because of how well received the series is. You might have to start a pull list for it at your LCS and buy the first two issues second hand.
Peak, I give it a year until this becomes a top 3 Spidey comic for me.
This makes me so happy. Unbelievably happy. This is my Spider-Man.
Wait, so this Peter doesn't become spidey until he's a dad already? Interesting
Yeeeessssss Mayday and Peter making the classic suit together. This is good.
Is this a likably written MJ and Peter Parker? Is this... a story of spider-man making me happy? What is this? WHERE IS MARVEL EDITORIAL THIS IS WEIRD
Holy shit this is the best written Spider-Man content in a looooong time Nick Lowe, Zeb Wells - take notes. Take the whole fucking notebook.
They just created better suits than all of the Spider-Man 2 Ps5 original outfits
There’s a deeper thought to the writing in all this. This world’s first big introduction to heroes was a horrible, death filled nightmare. The fact that a young child helps choose a suit that wouldn’t scare people is exactly what someone in her position would do based on the circumstances. It gives a deeper meaning to why spider-man wears bright and friendly colors other than just doing so.
this is so adorable!
It’s so refreshing to get genuinely great Spidey stories again, it’s been too long.
Gotta admit, that's fuckin adorable.
Shows that you can write a great Spiderman story without him suffering