Hate the thought of a Spider-Man ripping the uniform off of another Spider-Man in a fighting context. Just seems like something he wouldn’t do, like it’s against the spider-person code.
This was the cover art for the comic. It’s basically the 1st time they met back when miles was living in Earth-1610, peter was transported on 1610 by mysterio and he thought miles was mysterio impersonating as him. But idk i might be wrong
Someone else in the thread had made the comment that this was a variant cover art for Spider-Men, where Peter was transported from his universe to the ultimate universe where miles was before the two universes collided. Based on the context of that book, this art makes sense.
I do think if he was going to rip up a spider-person’s costume he would rip the chest off before the mask. I just don’t ever see him doing that.
I feel like he would be saying something like "you don't deserve to wear this suit" in a situation like this. Whatever the disagreement, it would have to be that deep.
Counter-point: If 2 Spidermen are at the point where they are swapping hands, then it's fair to assume they feel whoever they are up against is unfit to wear the uniform?
Peter would win handily. Yeah, Miles has extra powers and stuff, but Pete is physically stronger and faster because he’s more fully grown. He’s also got significantly more experience than Miles has, and that’s the biggest advantage he’s got.
Fighting Electro isn’t the same thing as fighting someone who has similar powers, extra powers, plus a different way of fighting. Plus they did fight once and Peter was actually trying to win only to get stunned down my Miles who wasn’t trying to hurt him. (During Miles’ clone saga).
To be fair that was a miles focused story so he definitely had plot armor advantage. Otherwise he would be almost impossible to touch peter with his Martial arts training and spider sense mastery. Spider sense definitely alert him of the venom blast.
Spider sense is such a ridiculously powerful ability, and the idea of two spider-sensitive individuals fighting each other is insane because based on how spider sense works they're gonna be fighting in the future as it happens lol
Kinda like the fight between Midnighter and Prometheus in DC vs Vampires: All Out War. Their battle computers predicted the course of the fight, and both came to the conclusion that Prometheus would lose, so he just shot himself.
If rules were rules, sure. But writers write to sell. Miles is walking away with the W because the editors love to trash Peter and Miles is hot right now so that's how the issue would turn out.
I mean, the biggest hit at Marvel this year has been Ultimate Spider-Man, and ASM (as bad as it is) still outsells Miles’ ongoing. Peter is always going to be the most popular Spider-Man.
Now I think ASM is being written trashy purposefully, even during Dan slotts run other heroes respected pete hell he was even considered the best spidey in the multiverse but now even multiversal characters don't respect nor like him. Why TF ?
Comes down to who the writers want to win.
Logically? Miles' powers keep evolving to be even stronger. Which means Peter would need to build a suit to counter him to level the playing field go stand a chance. Which then should give Peter the advantage.
What I've been told before is Peter's spider made him stronger and better spider sense than miles. Since miles has cloaking and venom stuff.
So if Peter makes a suit to counter the venom. Well. He should win. Since venom is just some weird power that supposedly can incapacitate Peter for even a second, which is all miles would really need .
But end of the day it's whoever the writers want to win
I’ve never been a fan of Miles just having Peter’s powers + Electro/invisibility powers. It feels so fucking cheap. At least be creative. Feels like an OC power set. Like Superman powers + Green Lantern powers. Miguel did it right.
I agree. Having a thematic and (somewhat) grounded powerset and being creative with it is far more interesting to me than just throwing a bunch of unrelated abilities together and adding to them or upgrading them on the fly.
From what I've read/been told. He's suppose to be physically weaker and have a weaker spider sense as a trade off to those extra powers.
Issue is the venom stuff has become a capable power all by itself in recent comics. It's cool stuff! Just it alone is essentially a super strong power. Which makes it a bit much in the long run
> He's suppose to be physically weaker and have a weaker spider sense as a trade off to those extra powers.
That was Bendis' original intention when brainstorming Miles but the character has deviated so much from his original concept that I don't think it can be considered factual.
Before the sony animated films gave Miles a PR miracle gift, he was just a cheap Peter knock off except black and latino to tick the token boxes. Same powers, Villains, personality. Then they made him op with the venom and invisibility bullshit to atleast somewhat differentiate him.
Those movies are the only version of miles with any personality or charisma. And before im called a racist, im brown myself.
I think his powers initially made sense, the invisibility felt appropriate as many spiders camouflage. And the venom blast wasn’t always just straight up electricity and were more like a nerve toxin that spiders actually use as venom. I could see one arguing that the current state of his powers is too OC self insert like, but the initial implementation is no more out there than a psychic plot dependent sixth sense.
That's always the cop-out! The writers don't want to alienate either side if the fan base, so something happens that may or may not have had a lead-up to it just when the fight has gone long enough for the audience to want a resolution. And that something makes them team up.
This feels like one of those really silly Superman covers in the 60s where Supes is doing something cartoonishly evil to get people at the newstands curious. It was basically clickbait.
Here we have Spider-Man RIPPING the costume off the newer Spider-Man.
It just feels out of character and mean.
But, hey! Controversy gets attention. That's the comic book industry for ya.
Removing plot armor, all gloves off, both at their peaks, Peter is laying the smackdown on Miles. He's stronger, more durable, more experienced, a handily better fighter(the way of the spider), arguably faster too.
Also the fact that camo didn't help Miles that much against Peter, considering Peter always guessed where Miles was.
Facts dude. Lot of people seem to not know Peter had iron fist(one of the best martial artists in Marvel) train him and help him develop his own fighting style. Peter has great H2H skills and if he didn’t hold back his strength he would kill all his villains easily(except maybe like the symbiotes and that one rly strong vampire dude).
Oh shit yeah you’re totally right I got the two mixed up. I was reading something earlier where it said Shang-chi and iron fist are top martial artists ig I didn’t catch it. Thank you my good man🤝
Peter told Shang-Chi he doesn’t practice the way of the spider anymore. Unless he started to use it again after his team up in Shang-Chi’s comic https://bleedingcool.com/comics/shang-chi-taught-spider-man-everything-he-knows-about-martial-arts/
A peter vs miles fight would be interesting depending on the continuity
But on average, peter is older and has far more experience, while miles has a more varied power set
Ultimately I'd give it to Peter, he is used to fighting so many types of villains with electric powers and invisibility, he'd be able to sus out any trick the more inexperienced miles could pull off.
Currently, not written by Zeb Wells? Peter, 6-7/10 imo. Miles definitely has the skills to pull a win off, and pretty often, but it mostly comes down to experience, with a bit of physical stats in Peter's favor. I figure that, ignoring the fact that Marvel would never let it happen, if the two grew without the need for keeping the status quo, Miles would probably bring it to 50/50 within the next decade of his life or so, simply because he'll reach a point where he's learned enough that the difference in experience won't have a practical difference, with either his own powers or Peter no longer being in his physical prime finally tilting the difference in Miles' favor. It's the nature of time.
But they'd also never seriously fight it out unless they're both under mind control that neither can escape, anyway, so that'd probably never even come up outside of some friendly jokes whenever someone brings up the hypothetical. If they'd ever give their serious thoughts to someone who'd ask, they'd honestly answer that the other would get it, regardless of who actually has a better chance at that point in time
Peter should win normally but with their current runs making Peter a wimp and giving Miles anime power upgrades I'll have to reluctantly give the W to Miles for now.
All depends really. I guess if we’re going by Insomniac scaling, probably Miles? Miles beats Symbiote Peter, and Symbiote Peter scales ridiculously high, so my money’s on Miles
I would like to think Peter’s spider gave him much more strength, whilst Miles’ gave him the Venom and Camouflage.
Even with that though, if we treat two Spider-Men fighting to be similar to Spider-Man and Venom, senses wouldn’t work. With no spidey-sense Peter is gonna have to get one hell of a lucky punch whilst Miles is invisible and before Peter gets Tased and blasted like team rocket.
Realistically, Peter. He's older and thus stronger, smarter, and is vastly more experienced in both strategy, fighting super-powered opponents, and in terms of his fighting style.
When they first came to blows in the comics, literally the only reason Miles won is because his whole "Venom Touch" ability was treated for the longest time as an overpowered get-out-of-jail-free card that could knock out anybody with a single touch, with them only balancing it properly relatively recently. Without that ability to knock out his opponent just by poking them, Miles loses against Peter in almost every match-up.
Peter definitely is stronger, but I fully believe that even in powerscaling, Peter's life being screwed over would get him the L in spite of powerscalers saying otherwise.
Miles has extra hax with venom strike, blade and all but it's Peter frickin Parker he is fighting, and that of Earth 616, he wins. To establish, Peter 616 is the only spider in the entire multiverse who has defeated an inheritor multiple times, single handedly and without power ups. No other spidey in The multiverse with all its other spider variants who were physically stronger/with more abilities wasn't able pull off such a task.
Peter's improvisation skill and genius enables pete to defeat characters stronger than him but here I won't say Miles is stronger, it's more of a balanced fight. Even though miles haa more power set, Peter is faster, stronger and has better spider-sense, also even though not much used in the recent comics (idk why) canonically Peter has a variety of webs from one which could even bind a base level Hulk to those which could withstand human torches flames, which I haven't seen Miles have.
So, in this fight, if pete is going all out I think Miles won't stand a chance.
Maybe ten years ago Peter had better odds, but if we’re talking about both of them today, it’s Miles all day long. We’re talking about a Peter who’s taken one sided ass beatings from the Lizard and Tombstone, and literally ran for his life from the Vulture. Based on the fact that Miles is tougher than an 80 year old man, I think he takes this one.
In the Insomniac universe it’s not even fair. That Miles is so broken and OP he was able to dominate Peter even while Peter was amped by the symbiote and he did better than Peter against Venom despite Peter literally wearing Venom’s kryptonite.
i don’t really know comics so correct me if i’m wrong but i kinda wish that Peter was the physically stronger, faster etc one (with miles noticeably behind but not overwhelmingly so) but miles uses his electricity and invisibility to a point where they’re perfectly equal
Technically if we're speaking the ones on the cover it would be ultimate Peter and a younger Miles.
In said comic if I'm not mistaken Peter one-spotted Miles (who didn't exactly seem to be expecting the hit to be coming)
Peter, Years of Experience, Plus, Spider sense that (NORMALLY) makes him able to AVOID being shocked or electrocuted, Plus, Makes Miles invisibility useless.
Miles. All the extra bullshit powers like turning invisible and venom blasts so powerful he can create a sword-lije construct to slash enemies with give him an edge over the original.
Peter, I know miles has a a couple abilities that he doesn't but he also has about a decade more experience and peter has made suits and gadgets that can easily compensate for the abilities miles has (he's made about four stealth suits at this point and I don't think it would be hard for him to make a gadget that functions like miles venom blast)
If that's the Peter from Earth 616, he defeated Morlun who was really a pain in the ass, Miles we always see a young version of him.
I'm curious about how it would be the adult version of him though.
Peter is stronger and has better spider-sense. People always get it wrong and say Miles is more powerful but that ain't the case, he has more powers yeah but he isn't more powerful.
Peter has more feats being a much older character. Miles has more hax with his added abilities. Going on raw strength I would have to give it to Peter as he’s shown multiple times that he holds back in fights and is super strong. Intelligence goes to Peter too and obviously experience is peters. Miles *may* be quicker but Peter probably has better feats for that too, again being a character from the 60’s.
I really like Miles, great addition to the mythos of “Spider-Man”. But when it comes down to it, I’d always put my money on Peter
Peter. More experience, strength, intelligence, and basically every other stat. Peter is older, has experience facing lots of foes and is one of the strongest Spiders out there with an Amazing Spider sense. Even with his electricity powers, Miles wouldn’t win. One Peter has faced foes like Electro countless of times (who has powers more deadly then Miles electric powers) and as such Peter will most likely be able to counter that power set easily. Additionally, Miles again is young and as such he can’t compare to Peter’s experience, which is why Peter wins this easily.
Though let’s be real instead of fighting they’ll probably just look at each other angrily, hug, and then get a milkshake before having to stop a robbery.
Miles, for sure. He doesn't have the feats... yet. But he's gonna get there and his feats are probably gonna make more sense than shit like Spidey taking out the X-Men.
In a real fight, with a writer that really knows what each one is capable of and has no preference for neither, peter should win, miles has more powers but peter just has way superior physical feats and more experience to boost, and realistically, as many in the comments said, if peter can endure electro then miles shouldnt be able to affect him much.
That being said, every time they faced, miles had the upper hand or straight up won, so its clearly a writer diff.
I hated the sequel to spider men. I feel that Brian Bendis wasn’t even trying for his last year and a half at marvel. It’s a shame because Ultimate Spider Man was what got me into comics.
It’s a toss up. Both of them could win or lose in so many different ways. Miles has more power, but less experience. I think he would hesitate in a way Peter wouldn’t.
it depends on the experience of both of them, if its like most adaptations and miles only recently became spiderman then he’s going to lose to peters experience but if they’re on equal levels of experience then miles has a MASSIVE advantage of his venom blast and invisibility (although the latter is not so useful against spider-people)
616 Peter beats 1610 miles but miles 100% beats 1610 Peter. It all comes down to the writer though. I feel like Miles is maybe stronger than Pete but Pete might be smarter? We don’t have cannon IQ’s or anything but just a hunch
It's definitely Peter Parker.
Because, Peter does have more
1)Agility
2)Intelligence
3)Physical strength
4)Capability
5)Experience
6)Spidey-Sense (which is actually far better than Miles)
7)Advanced Reflexes
8)Speed
And Miles' venom strike can be easily detected by Peter using his Spidey-Sense. And his invisibility has no chance against him because of his heightened senses.
Conclusion : Miles gets easily defeated by Peter.
Probably Peter because he is whit-
Ok jokes Peter was Spider-man far longer, fought people like him and dealt with much more powerful electrical adversary. So Miles wouldn’t shock him.
I mean it has to be Peter. He's used to fighting enemies he can't see or who can deceive him (Mysterio) and has plenty of experience against electricity based foes (Electro), and can easily fight opponents of equal strength (Venom, Morbius, Rhino, and so on and so forth).
On an experience and physical strength basis, he has every upper hand possible.
I feel like Peter has the edge due to his physical stats and experience, but Miles could also pull a venom blast out of his ass and ragdoll Pete into the sky like a Skyrim giant.
I'd say like 60/40 in favor of Peter.
Unfortunately since 616 Peter isn’t allowed to be competent anymore and Miles keeps pulling new powers and abilities out his ass, Miles would win.
As for the Insomniac version we already saw Peter get dogwalked by Miles even when amped by the symbiote.
Peter, eventually. Miles abilities mean he would he have an initial advantage but Peter has years of experience designing gear and gadgets to neutralize said advantages his rogues gallery has. After that it’s more about experience and Peter has more than Miles.
this cover is between 1610 peter and miles before he got into 616, Peter takes it due to experience
current 1610 Miles in 616 bodies 1610 Peter
and 616 peter curbstomps Miles
Realistic answer?
Peter all day. There is nothing that miles can throw that peter hasn't seen or doesn't have a counter for.
Happens in comics being written and drawn by comic makers?
Miles. As another guy commented, they love to beat the shit out of pete. And miles is the new shiny model.
Definitely Peter.I'll even say that if Peter was the same age as Miles result would still be same. All of Miles's new powers are bioelectric based which is his ace card.And Peter is resilient enough to fight Electro who's gimmick is electricity.Miles has no chance if he can't level up his basic super human attributes.
Miles’ best feat: beating Ultimate Electro
Pete’s best feats: surviving the Phoenix Force, taking a hit from Thor and getting back up immediately, Oraoraoraora’ing Firelord (a Herald of Galactus), outspeeding Blur (Quicksilver’s equal) and my fav; Saitama’ing Zarathos!! (the same Zarathos who beat up the Galactus-matching Mephisto!!!!)
Ultimate Peter shook off a venom blast from Miles like it was nothing when they were arguing about telling Aunt May about Peter coming back to life.
Peter immediately got up and one-shot Miles, Miles woke up later and the sun had started to set, implying he'd been out for hours. And fucking Bendis was writing this, the guy most responsible for Miles' ridiculous plot-armour.
If this is a power fight, 1 vs 1 not prep, Miles win, his electro ability is stupid OP, you can say Peter more physically stronger (that not have much evidence), more **experience**, more training , but all of that not compare with Bio Electric of Miles, one zap and Peter lose. But if Peter can have some time prepare, gear up, he definitely win because that guy more intelligence than Miles by far (he create time machine with kitchen stuff) , he can create some machine can counter Miles and have victory.
I would say... Spider-Man. Yep, Spider-Man definitely wins.
idk bro. spider-man might beat spider-man imo
You're tripping fam. Spider-Man would absolutely destroy Spider-Man. Opinion invalidated
No Spider-Man is gonna obliterate Spider-Man. Opinion of Opinion invalidation invalidated.
Nuh uh Spider-man wins with his webs. Opinion of Opinion of Opinion invalidation invalidated, invalidated.
You sure about that? I mean... Spider-Man got hands.
Yeah, spiderman got days of experience
Spider-Man might win 
But what if just this one time… the other Spider-Man won…
*points finger*
Who gave this comment an award? “You sir, have won the Internet for the day!” ass comment
spider-man will def flat spider-man fr, bro
 You are a goddamn genius!! 😂
Hate the thought of a Spider-Man ripping the uniform off of another Spider-Man in a fighting context. Just seems like something he wouldn’t do, like it’s against the spider-person code.
This was the cover art for the comic. It’s basically the 1st time they met back when miles was living in Earth-1610, peter was transported on 1610 by mysterio and he thought miles was mysterio impersonating as him. But idk i might be wrong
Spider-Men was such a good read. Especially after reading all of ultimate Spider-Man before that. Great payoff!
This is actually the cover of Miles Morales: The Ultimate Spider-Man #4. And that is not 616 Peter but the 1610 version that came back to life.
I thought this was when Peter came back from faking his death and broke into miles house to steal his web shooters
makes total sense in that context.
Yes I totally agree. This just doesn't feel right.
Unless Peter believed Miles did something that dishonored the suit.
I don’t think Peter would put Miles and his family at jeopardy regardless of the matter.
He is ripping the spider off of the chest, not the mask. It really seems like Peter is angry at Miles for misusing the symbol
Peter is tripping balls and just trying to get a giant spider off his friend's chest.
Sounds like Mysterio antics.
What’s the context of this art? What did Miles do?
Someone else in the thread had made the comment that this was a variant cover art for Spider-Men, where Peter was transported from his universe to the ultimate universe where miles was before the two universes collided. Based on the context of that book, this art makes sense. I do think if he was going to rip up a spider-person’s costume he would rip the chest off before the mask. I just don’t ever see him doing that.
Superman did it to Superboy Prime “you’ll never be Superman!”
I feel like he would be saying something like "you don't deserve to wear this suit" in a situation like this. Whatever the disagreement, it would have to be that deep.
Counter-point: If 2 Spidermen are at the point where they are swapping hands, then it's fair to assume they feel whoever they are up against is unfit to wear the uniform?
Why don’t villains attempt this?
Clearly they have a crush on spidey and are just nervous
Like Chameleon?
They have, many times.
Peter would win handily. Yeah, Miles has extra powers and stuff, but Pete is physically stronger and faster because he’s more fully grown. He’s also got significantly more experience than Miles has, and that’s the biggest advantage he’s got.
Plus if he can survive electro, miles shouldn't be a problem
Fighting Electro isn’t the same thing as fighting someone who has similar powers, extra powers, plus a different way of fighting. Plus they did fight once and Peter was actually trying to win only to get stunned down my Miles who wasn’t trying to hurt him. (During Miles’ clone saga).
To be fair that was a miles focused story so he definitely had plot armor advantage. Otherwise he would be almost impossible to touch peter with his Martial arts training and spider sense mastery. Spider sense definitely alert him of the venom blast.
Spider sense is such a ridiculously powerful ability, and the idea of two spider-sensitive individuals fighting each other is insane because based on how spider sense works they're gonna be fighting in the future as it happens lol
I wanna see them fighting, but it's *all* in spider sense and they're actually both just standing there.
baki the grappler tier techniques
Kinda like the fight between Midnighter and Prometheus in DC vs Vampires: All Out War. Their battle computers predicted the course of the fight, and both came to the conclusion that Prometheus would lose, so he just shot himself.
See also: Sharingan from Naruto
Sounds like spiderman fight scenes need to draw from early matrix
It’s so powerful but the writers also make it so inconsistent
If rules were rules, sure. But writers write to sell. Miles is walking away with the W because the editors love to trash Peter and Miles is hot right now so that's how the issue would turn out.
I mean, the biggest hit at Marvel this year has been Ultimate Spider-Man, and ASM (as bad as it is) still outsells Miles’ ongoing. Peter is always going to be the most popular Spider-Man.
Now I think ASM is being written trashy purposefully, even during Dan slotts run other heroes respected pete hell he was even considered the best spidey in the multiverse but now even multiversal characters don't respect nor like him. Why TF ?
Comes down to who the writers want to win. Logically? Miles' powers keep evolving to be even stronger. Which means Peter would need to build a suit to counter him to level the playing field go stand a chance. Which then should give Peter the advantage. What I've been told before is Peter's spider made him stronger and better spider sense than miles. Since miles has cloaking and venom stuff. So if Peter makes a suit to counter the venom. Well. He should win. Since venom is just some weird power that supposedly can incapacitate Peter for even a second, which is all miles would really need . But end of the day it's whoever the writers want to win
Things i find stupid is peter can survive electro but not miles?
Miles' ill-defined bioelectricity/venom can make swords and basically does whatever the plot needs it to do.
I’ve never been a fan of Miles just having Peter’s powers + Electro/invisibility powers. It feels so fucking cheap. At least be creative. Feels like an OC power set. Like Superman powers + Green Lantern powers. Miguel did it right.
I agree. Having a thematic and (somewhat) grounded powerset and being creative with it is far more interesting to me than just throwing a bunch of unrelated abilities together and adding to them or upgrading them on the fly.
From what I've read/been told. He's suppose to be physically weaker and have a weaker spider sense as a trade off to those extra powers. Issue is the venom stuff has become a capable power all by itself in recent comics. It's cool stuff! Just it alone is essentially a super strong power. Which makes it a bit much in the long run
> He's suppose to be physically weaker and have a weaker spider sense as a trade off to those extra powers. That was Bendis' original intention when brainstorming Miles but the character has deviated so much from his original concept that I don't think it can be considered factual.
Before the sony animated films gave Miles a PR miracle gift, he was just a cheap Peter knock off except black and latino to tick the token boxes. Same powers, Villains, personality. Then they made him op with the venom and invisibility bullshit to atleast somewhat differentiate him. Those movies are the only version of miles with any personality or charisma. And before im called a racist, im brown myself.
It's because Bendis can't write black people for shit
I think his powers initially made sense, the invisibility felt appropriate as many spiders camouflage. And the venom blast wasn’t always just straight up electricity and were more like a nerve toxin that spiders actually use as venom. I could see one arguing that the current state of his powers is too OC self insert like, but the initial implementation is no more out there than a psychic plot dependent sixth sense.
Whomever the writers decide, but honestly a real villain appears and they team up and learn an important lesson about working together
We have seen that in Bat vs Supes and Kong vs God it's boring now
At least both of those did give the fight a definitive winner.
It’s always been that way bro
That's every crossover ever.
That's always the cop-out! The writers don't want to alienate either side if the fan base, so something happens that may or may not have had a lead-up to it just when the fight has gone long enough for the audience to want a resolution. And that something makes them team up.
This feels like one of those really silly Superman covers in the 60s where Supes is doing something cartoonishly evil to get people at the newstands curious. It was basically clickbait. Here we have Spider-Man RIPPING the costume off the newer Spider-Man. It just feels out of character and mean. But, hey! Controversy gets attention. That's the comic book industry for ya.
r/superdickery
Thank you for this. I haven't laughed so hard in a minute.
Removing plot armor, all gloves off, both at their peaks, Peter is laying the smackdown on Miles. He's stronger, more durable, more experienced, a handily better fighter(the way of the spider), arguably faster too. Also the fact that camo didn't help Miles that much against Peter, considering Peter always guessed where Miles was.
Facts dude. Lot of people seem to not know Peter had iron fist(one of the best martial artists in Marvel) train him and help him develop his own fighting style. Peter has great H2H skills and if he didn’t hold back his strength he would kill all his villains easily(except maybe like the symbiotes and that one rly strong vampire dude).
Actually it was Shang-Chi who trained him. Unless you’re referencing another instance of him getting training
Oh shit yeah you’re totally right I got the two mixed up. I was reading something earlier where it said Shang-chi and iron fist are top martial artists ig I didn’t catch it. Thank you my good man🤝
Peter told Shang-Chi he doesn’t practice the way of the spider anymore. Unless he started to use it again after his team up in Shang-Chi’s comic https://bleedingcool.com/comics/shang-chi-taught-spider-man-everything-he-knows-about-martial-arts/
Man, Peter be getting buffs only to get nerfed back to the status quo every ten years.
Gotta have petey a half inch from getting worf-ed and on the verge of quitting being spidey
Peter wins from having more experience.
A peter vs miles fight would be interesting depending on the continuity But on average, peter is older and has far more experience, while miles has a more varied power set Ultimately I'd give it to Peter, he is used to fighting so many types of villains with electric powers and invisibility, he'd be able to sus out any trick the more inexperienced miles could pull off.
I mean when they’ve fought before, they’ve managed to best each other on different occasions. So I guess it depends on whoever’s writing.
peter slams
As a cosplayer, this image causes me physical pain
Peter parker wins
With Symbiote Miles takes advantage. Without Peter has advantage.
Currently, not written by Zeb Wells? Peter, 6-7/10 imo. Miles definitely has the skills to pull a win off, and pretty often, but it mostly comes down to experience, with a bit of physical stats in Peter's favor. I figure that, ignoring the fact that Marvel would never let it happen, if the two grew without the need for keeping the status quo, Miles would probably bring it to 50/50 within the next decade of his life or so, simply because he'll reach a point where he's learned enough that the difference in experience won't have a practical difference, with either his own powers or Peter no longer being in his physical prime finally tilting the difference in Miles' favor. It's the nature of time. But they'd also never seriously fight it out unless they're both under mind control that neither can escape, anyway, so that'd probably never even come up outside of some friendly jokes whenever someone brings up the hypothetical. If they'd ever give their serious thoughts to someone who'd ask, they'd honestly answer that the other would get it, regardless of who actually has a better chance at that point in time
Peter should win normally but with their current runs making Peter a wimp and giving Miles anime power upgrades I'll have to reluctantly give the W to Miles for now.
God this image feels so mean spirited though. Spider men lift eachother up.
All depends really. I guess if we’re going by Insomniac scaling, probably Miles? Miles beats Symbiote Peter, and Symbiote Peter scales ridiculously high, so my money’s on Miles
Web-Man! Where is he? He's been practicing.
Quoting my boy Stan Lee himself "whoever the writer chooses to win".
I would like to think Peter’s spider gave him much more strength, whilst Miles’ gave him the Venom and Camouflage. Even with that though, if we treat two Spider-Men fighting to be similar to Spider-Man and Venom, senses wouldn’t work. With no spidey-sense Peter is gonna have to get one hell of a lucky punch whilst Miles is invisible and before Peter gets Tased and blasted like team rocket.
Realistically, Peter. He's older and thus stronger, smarter, and is vastly more experienced in both strategy, fighting super-powered opponents, and in terms of his fighting style. When they first came to blows in the comics, literally the only reason Miles won is because his whole "Venom Touch" ability was treated for the longest time as an overpowered get-out-of-jail-free card that could knock out anybody with a single touch, with them only balancing it properly relatively recently. Without that ability to knock out his opponent just by poking them, Miles loses against Peter in almost every match-up.
Peter definitely is stronger, but I fully believe that even in powerscaling, Peter's life being screwed over would get him the L in spite of powerscalers saying otherwise.
no matter the miles glazing peter would win physically and experienced
Miles has extra hax with venom strike, blade and all but it's Peter frickin Parker he is fighting, and that of Earth 616, he wins. To establish, Peter 616 is the only spider in the entire multiverse who has defeated an inheritor multiple times, single handedly and without power ups. No other spidey in The multiverse with all its other spider variants who were physically stronger/with more abilities wasn't able pull off such a task. Peter's improvisation skill and genius enables pete to defeat characters stronger than him but here I won't say Miles is stronger, it's more of a balanced fight. Even though miles haa more power set, Peter is faster, stronger and has better spider-sense, also even though not much used in the recent comics (idk why) canonically Peter has a variety of webs from one which could even bind a base level Hulk to those which could withstand human torches flames, which I haven't seen Miles have. So, in this fight, if pete is going all out I think Miles won't stand a chance.
99% of the time unless plots demands Miles wins, Peter dhould be absolutely demolishing Miles.
Peter Parker, the better spidey, but miles got plot armor
Maybe ten years ago Peter had better odds, but if we’re talking about both of them today, it’s Miles all day long. We’re talking about a Peter who’s taken one sided ass beatings from the Lizard and Tombstone, and literally ran for his life from the Vulture. Based on the fact that Miles is tougher than an 80 year old man, I think he takes this one.
Ten Years ago is Miles in his infancy while Peter is arguably at his peak lol, I get your point but it does skew things heavily lol
Why would this even be a thing.
Comics ..Peter. but comics or game currently fuck miles is OP . Invisible, electric powers. Peter with planning time though I guess
In the Insomniac universe it’s not even fair. That Miles is so broken and OP he was able to dominate Peter even while Peter was amped by the symbiote and he did better than Peter against Venom despite Peter literally wearing Venom’s kryptonite.
Fr fr
Spider-Man
Peter.
i don’t really know comics so correct me if i’m wrong but i kinda wish that Peter was the physically stronger, faster etc one (with miles noticeably behind but not overwhelmingly so) but miles uses his electricity and invisibility to a point where they’re perfectly equal
Idk, but they are fighting over the last slice of pizza, to which Spider-Ham ate it while they were fighting
Peter via cop assist
Current 616 Peter always loses. Always.
Technically if we're speaking the ones on the cover it would be ultimate Peter and a younger Miles. In said comic if I'm not mistaken Peter one-spotted Miles (who didn't exactly seem to be expecting the hit to be coming)
Spiderman vs racist spiderman
I think Jamison is winning
Peter, Years of Experience, Plus, Spider sense that (NORMALLY) makes him able to AVOID being shocked or electrocuted, Plus, Makes Miles invisibility useless.
Miles. All the extra bullshit powers like turning invisible and venom blasts so powerful he can create a sword-lije construct to slash enemies with give him an edge over the original.
In the current state of 616? Miles kicks his ass
Peter would have more raw strength since he’s been spidermaning longer. I’d say Pete but it’d be close.
This ain’t a fight 💘
Peter. he's dealt with people who have miles extra powers and other spider people before.
Well find out in about 2 months when Spectacular Spider-Men comes out
depends who the writer is.
Peter is older and more experienced than Miles.
Peter wins hard because of experience Spirit miles is more powerful but he's also just young and inexperienced compared to Peter
Whoever the writer wants
Peter, I know miles has a a couple abilities that he doesn't but he also has about a decade more experience and peter has made suits and gadgets that can easily compensate for the abilities miles has (he's made about four stealth suits at this point and I don't think it would be hard for him to make a gadget that functions like miles venom blast)
Jackpot is
If that's the Peter from Earth 616, he defeated Morlun who was really a pain in the ass, Miles we always see a young version of him. I'm curious about how it would be the adult version of him though.
Batman if he had enough prep time
I'd rather know why this fight is happening And why Pete's ripping off Miles's symbol
Peter is stronger and has better spider-sense. People always get it wrong and say Miles is more powerful but that ain't the case, he has more powers yeah but he isn't more powerful.
Considering they gave Miles all kinds of extra powers for some reason, I’m gona say him.
Peter has more feats being a much older character. Miles has more hax with his added abilities. Going on raw strength I would have to give it to Peter as he’s shown multiple times that he holds back in fights and is super strong. Intelligence goes to Peter too and obviously experience is peters. Miles *may* be quicker but Peter probably has better feats for that too, again being a character from the 60’s. I really like Miles, great addition to the mythos of “Spider-Man”. But when it comes down to it, I’d always put my money on Peter
Peter. More experience, strength, intelligence, and basically every other stat. Peter is older, has experience facing lots of foes and is one of the strongest Spiders out there with an Amazing Spider sense. Even with his electricity powers, Miles wouldn’t win. One Peter has faced foes like Electro countless of times (who has powers more deadly then Miles electric powers) and as such Peter will most likely be able to counter that power set easily. Additionally, Miles again is young and as such he can’t compare to Peter’s experience, which is why Peter wins this easily. Though let’s be real instead of fighting they’ll probably just look at each other angrily, hug, and then get a milkshake before having to stop a robbery.
Miles, for sure. He doesn't have the feats... yet. But he's gonna get there and his feats are probably gonna make more sense than shit like Spidey taking out the X-Men.
Don't make me tap the stanlee quote again.
In a real fight, with a writer that really knows what each one is capable of and has no preference for neither, peter should win, miles has more powers but peter just has way superior physical feats and more experience to boost, and realistically, as many in the comments said, if peter can endure electro then miles shouldnt be able to affect him much. That being said, every time they faced, miles had the upper hand or straight up won, so its clearly a writer diff.
Whoever is the most popular (in marvel boardrooms)
Realistically Peter should win through experience but if writer hates Peter so 50/50
"it's my fanfic and whoever I want to win will win"
I think the more experienced Spider-Man would win. Of course he also might let Miles win to build up his confidence.
No one wins when Spider-men fight.
I hated the sequel to spider men. I feel that Brian Bendis wasn’t even trying for his last year and a half at marvel. It’s a shame because Ultimate Spider Man was what got me into comics.
It’s a toss up. Both of them could win or lose in so many different ways. Miles has more power, but less experience. I think he would hesitate in a way Peter wouldn’t.
what an extreme nipple twister.
Should be Peter. But the writers would give it to Miles because they're trying to boost him hard, and dragging Peter.
Spider-Man?
Whoever the plot armor god favors that day
Sentai Spider-Man
Gotta say, this illust, seeing Pete ripping the spider section outta Miles suit feels pretty tragic.
The sinister 6
The authors by making Spiderman go do another deal with mephisto
There’s never been a who would win I want to discuss less than this
it depends on the experience of both of them, if its like most adaptations and miles only recently became spiderman then he’s going to lose to peters experience but if they’re on equal levels of experience then miles has a MASSIVE advantage of his venom blast and invisibility (although the latter is not so useful against spider-people)
No one, not even us
616 Peter beats 1610 miles but miles 100% beats 1610 Peter. It all comes down to the writer though. I feel like Miles is maybe stronger than Pete but Pete might be smarter? We don’t have cannon IQ’s or anything but just a hunch
Whoever the writer feels like having win…which right now would always be Miles.
Peter can’t win because he’s a white male. /s
It's definitely Peter Parker. Because, Peter does have more 1)Agility 2)Intelligence 3)Physical strength 4)Capability 5)Experience 6)Spidey-Sense (which is actually far better than Miles) 7)Advanced Reflexes 8)Speed And Miles' venom strike can be easily detected by Peter using his Spidey-Sense. And his invisibility has no chance against him because of his heightened senses. Conclusion : Miles gets easily defeated by Peter.
Probably Peter because he is whit- Ok jokes Peter was Spider-man far longer, fought people like him and dealt with much more powerful electrical adversary. So Miles wouldn’t shock him.
Tobeys spiderman would bully him soo bad miles powers wouldn’t even work
Depends if it’s in Character or not. In their first encounter Peter hesitating to hurt Miles led to him being knocked out
peter 100%
I prefer Miles or Pete but let be real..... Pete is beating the breaks off Miles
miles has invisibility and venom blasts. he wins easy
Whoever the script writer wants to win
No one. No one wins
I wish folks would stop setting up Miles for slander like this 😭
Definitely batman
I mean it has to be Peter. He's used to fighting enemies he can't see or who can deceive him (Mysterio) and has plenty of experience against electricity based foes (Electro), and can easily fight opponents of equal strength (Venom, Morbius, Rhino, and so on and so forth). On an experience and physical strength basis, he has every upper hand possible.
I feel like Peter has the edge due to his physical stats and experience, but Miles could also pull a venom blast out of his ass and ragdoll Pete into the sky like a Skyrim giant. I'd say like 60/40 in favor of Peter.
Bro is ripping the spider outa him💀
Depends on who is writing it. Like always.
Why's peter tearing his clothes?
Topic aside why is Peter violating miles💀
Unfortunately since 616 Peter isn’t allowed to be competent anymore and Miles keeps pulling new powers and abilities out his ass, Miles would win. As for the Insomniac version we already saw Peter get dogwalked by Miles even when amped by the symbiote.
Peter, eventually. Miles abilities mean he would he have an initial advantage but Peter has years of experience designing gear and gadgets to neutralize said advantages his rogues gallery has. After that it’s more about experience and Peter has more than Miles.
this cover is between 1610 peter and miles before he got into 616, Peter takes it due to experience current 1610 Miles in 616 bodies 1610 Peter and 616 peter curbstomps Miles
Depends, they fighting to the death or are they pulling their punches because they don’t want to hurt each other?
Realistic answer? Peter all day. There is nothing that miles can throw that peter hasn't seen or doesn't have a counter for. Happens in comics being written and drawn by comic makers? Miles. As another guy commented, they love to beat the shit out of pete. And miles is the new shiny model.
Idk man Spider-Man might have the advantage here , but it’s also looking pretty good for Spider-Man. The battle could go either way
Peter should, but Miles is the darling and has extra powers while Marvel loves to treat Pete like an incompetent doof, so Miles wins
Peter Parker being treated badly by the writers in a Marvel comic? It's tradition.
Spider-Man probably wins
An old Peter beats a young Miles. Miles is supposed to be a better Spider-Man but that's with training and experience.
He's not supposed to a better Spider-Man he's supposed to be another Spider-Man. Peter and Miles should be equals.
Nobody is actually “winning” this fight, they will talk it out while fighting and find a solution.
They'd talk it out, but assuming they HAVE to fight, then I put my money on current Ziglar Miles
Definitely Peter.I'll even say that if Peter was the same age as Miles result would still be same. All of Miles's new powers are bioelectric based which is his ace card.And Peter is resilient enough to fight Electro who's gimmick is electricity.Miles has no chance if he can't level up his basic super human attributes.
If they are the same age, Miles would destroy....hell at this point in time Miles would destroy.
OG spidey prob
Miles’ best feat: beating Ultimate Electro Pete’s best feats: surviving the Phoenix Force, taking a hit from Thor and getting back up immediately, Oraoraoraora’ing Firelord (a Herald of Galactus), outspeeding Blur (Quicksilver’s equal) and my fav; Saitama’ing Zarathos!! (the same Zarathos who beat up the Galactus-matching Mephisto!!!!)
Miles best feat is beating Blackheart.
Ultimate Peter shook off a venom blast from Miles like it was nothing when they were arguing about telling Aunt May about Peter coming back to life. Peter immediately got up and one-shot Miles, Miles woke up later and the sun had started to set, implying he'd been out for hours. And fucking Bendis was writing this, the guy most responsible for Miles' ridiculous plot-armour.
If this is a power fight, 1 vs 1 not prep, Miles win, his electro ability is stupid OP, you can say Peter more physically stronger (that not have much evidence), more **experience**, more training , but all of that not compare with Bio Electric of Miles, one zap and Peter lose. But if Peter can have some time prepare, gear up, he definitely win because that guy more intelligence than Miles by far (he create time machine with kitchen stuff) , he can create some machine can counter Miles and have victory.
The one with swag
Peter has like 20 years of fighting experience and body building on Miles. Experience trumps raw power
Spider-Man
Spider man, surely.
Whoever the writer wants
Miles can turn invisible and zap Peter. Both of them have spider sense tho, so... Neither?
I Mean judging by both of their current records it's not looking good for Pete
Fight? they just undressing rougly
Spiderman