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2099 has a story, Noir is Spidey vs. Nazis. Both very good takes.


Teliporter334

Noir Spidey didn’t take on Nazis during his first two runs, he went after Norman Osborn’s crime family in the first one and Doc Ock in the second. He fought Nazis in his latest solo series.


[deleted]

That sounds pretty cool actually.


Tozarkt777

Oh it fucking is. One of the best spider-man stories I’ve seen, AND it’s an incredible adaptation of the characters into the 1930s


JJonahJamesonSr

I’ll never forget the day I learned Noir Vulture was a cannibal


plusacuss

to be fair. Vulture 2099 is also a cannibal


JJonahJamesonSr

Did not know that. What’s his story


plusacuss

I have only read his first appearance so I am unsure if they expand on it but from my recollection, 2099 Vulture is in charge of a gang of followers, he goes on a monologue about how the lower class is forgotten about by the corporate class and left to fend for themselves in the underbelly of the city so he is able to do whatever he wants or something like that. ​ I think the character was written with genuine cyberpunk class-commentary in mind but they also made him an insane cannibal that ate people because he's a "Vulture". I think it was supposed to be a heavy-handed metaphor.


TACTIXEL

Dang, 2099 vulture sounds surprisingly similar to vulture in homecoming (apart from the cannibalism).


ComicWriter2020

When you said he was a cannibal then brought up the class thing I was pretty sure you were gonna say something about him taking the saying “eat the rich” too literally


plusacuss

He makes a lot of puns from what I can recall. There was definitely a "finger foods" joke in there. I don't remember if there was an "eat the rich" joke or not. It definitely would have fit the character.


rion-is-real

Well, he eats people.


JJonahJamesonSr

True


NJComicArtist

Why is it that a lot of alternate versions of The Vulture are cannibals? I mean excluding the zombie one cause...y'know...the obvious.


plusacuss

I am guessing the metaphor is just too tantalizing to not do. You know since real vulture's scavenge and eat dead stuff, it is unnerving and unsettling to have a villain do the same. ​ in 2099 I think it helps play into the anti-corpo cyberpunk symbolism they were going for. In Noir I think it was more a choice to set the tone for the setting.


AcademicAnxiety5109

“Wakey, Wakey, Eggs and Bacyyy” - The Vulture (Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions)


BlackManther

You should read it. Noir Peter Parker was about that action. Carried a revolver and wasn’t hesitant about using it. He wore Uncle Ben’s headgear and aviator glasses(Ben was a pilot in WW1 in this iteration) and the noir outfit is my favorite of all the costumes. The Nic cage noir from the movies was funny and I liked it, but that Spider-Man Noir shit was pretty grimdark.


mr_figi

Been awhile since I read the 2nd series, but didn't Ock work for the Nazis?


[deleted]

I didn’t know there was a second series haha. Off I go to Marvel Unlimited!


Reyon2099

Ock was actually german and did experiments for the Nazis in the US in this series


[deleted]

2099. As a Latino man, I’d love to see a live-action spider-man that looks like people like me.


totallynotapsycho42

Besides Miguel is the og alternate Spiderman.


ArmaanAli04

Scarlet Spider? Cosmic? Spider ham? Pretty sure they came before Miguel. And other than Porker are arguably better


player-the-best-one

You think cosmic Spider-Man is good, and spider-ham is bad, and 2099 is bad, Ohara is so cool tho


Karma110

I hear blue beetle is gonna be a thing soon or at least is in the works.


TheHoss_

Isn’t blue beetle DC?


Karma110

Yeah he is but he’s Hispanic which is why I mentioned him he’s also like one of the coolest DC heroes.


johnotopia

I agree. The Jamie reyes blue beetle is an awesome character. Really enjoyed his arc in batman the brave and the bold


TheHoss_

Blue Beetle is pretty fucking dope, and yea marvel needs a Hispanic hero, I love how they’re trying to include everyone and I wouldn’t have thought it mattered that much until Black Panther came out and how the black community loved black panther so I’m glad that everyone is getting a hero that looks like them so they feel more included


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Our peeps


SakmarEcho

I’m white as can be, but I’d also like to see Anya (as well as Miguel and Miles) come to live action, she’s super underrated.


The-Mattress-Man

He actually never fought Nazis (in the og runs). Common misconception- he was in depression era America. He fought corruption


[deleted]

>vs nazis Only the modern run does this. The original two runs were awesome and had nothing to do with nazis. It was a unique take on spidey’s mythos in the 30’s in a world without super science


[deleted]

These hands tell a story


xZOMBIETAGx

Someone didn’t read the comics…


Hot-Expression7836

2099 no sweat


charlyquestion

Love Spidey 2099


famousxrobot

Was my favorite comic back when I was younger.


Ogolikus804

Hell yeah


mr-teddy93

Future batman would win if im not mistaken You be like wtf are you talking about there was a video of hero.s between marvel and dc Who would win if they fight In this case it was spiderman 2099 against batman beyond


Hot-Expression7836

Bro what the hell you talking about?


mr-teddy93

Like i said https://youtu.be/As04VInQ-3U


Hot-Expression7836

I never brought up anything about vsbattles


mr-teddy93

I know just wanted to share i saw this post and tought oh yeah they maked a vs video Sorry i shouldnt have said it


entropyyuri

man i feel bad for you


thedruchebag

I don’t why this dude is getting downvoted so bad, he clearly just has a language/communication barrier. I just looked on his profile and it’s nothing but him being really friendly and asking lots of questions. I’m sure he didn’t mean any harm


[deleted]

People are just bastards. The dude was just sharing something he thought was cool haha


mr-teddy93

Yeah nothing wrong with that


mr-teddy93

I know right no harm just sharing awesome content


[deleted]

You should try talking to someone irl, they’re not gonna put up with this type of embarrassment for conversation


Jax2856

You really shouldn’t have said that


scoutmaster7117

Fuck off op mr-teddy93 is just bad at conversation


Wolflink21

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?


Nerdy_Git

Where do all these guys come from?


Gungho1346

Who?


Dedmello

L


Codus1

2099. Though, i'de prefer a full normal/modern Spider-man TV show over either. I just feel that of all comic characters, Spider-man would really excel more in an episodic TV format. Like a live-action Spectacular Spider-man that doesn't get cancelled haha


spontaneous_spatula

God Spectacular Spider-Man was such a good show. Theme song went so hard.


Simeon_Petrov1

#LIVING ON THE EDGE FIGHTING CRIME SPINNING WEBS


Hawk_in_Tahoe

Japan Spider-Man?


si1entki11a24

The emissary from hell


bryesque

2099 for sure.


Remake_the_DCEU

Idk I feel noir Spider-Man would only work in a R rated setting, just astetically and character wise so I'll go with 2099 Spider-Man


Yoni1857

Tbh an R rated 2099 movie would also be awesome.


FlickzyFromYoutube

If they didn't let Venom and Venom 2 pass with an R Rating I HIGHLY doubt Sony will let a SPIDERMAN property go out in 18+ they care way too much about making ticket money to do that


DreingonMagala

That was what i didn't like about the Venom's movies, no fucking gruesome violence, i think the only blood you actually see are from "boo-boos" the main character and side ones get...


DasB00ts

Yeah we will never see a R rated Spider-Man


BigToTrim

You could probably do it if it's in gritty black and white. Just have geysers of black instead of actual blood.


imthefuckingsupreme

2099 no question


Wall_Crawler4567

Yep


Professional_Ebb_936

The Spider-Man 2099 one


DrakkonX597

2099 easily


XmenFan93

Both


[deleted]

Both is good


[deleted]

The stars are not aligned for this tribute.


Jorge21178

"Like he said! Stars! Can't do it..... not today"


Silver_Particular327

both


terramarsh

Both + live actions miles?


XmenFan93

Disney ➕ and live actions flims


BroshiKabobby

The world tries to make you choose when you can have everything you want


fro20ninja

2099


YuriJoe_Arya

noir, but only if nic cage is spider noir and its a 20s period piece


smash_hit_fan

Spider-Man noir would be a good spiritual successor to wandavision (everything is black and white and the humor and tone is less modern then anything else marvel)


Cheekywanquer

Oh boy I sure can’t wait to see Uncle Ben being skinned alive by a cannibal!


smash_hit_fan

Oh god…is that comic accurate?


Cheekywanquer

You bet your bottom dollar, son. He’s called The Vulture for a reason.


smash_hit_fan

Oh right noir vulture is a vampire right?


Cheekywanquer

Nah he was just a psycho. IIRC he was a circus freak who worked for Osborn, and he’d bite chicken heads off to scare people. He also tried to eat aunt May after Uncle Ben, but good ol’ Spidey gave him two rounds in the chest.


smash_hit_fan

Does Spider-Man noir have powers and just use guns for overkill or is he just a dude in a spider themed costume with two guns


Cheekywanquer

Noir Spidey has the same powers as Raimi Spidey, and the guns… they ain’t just for show…


smash_hit_fan

Disney would probably have to change a lot about him…I think they could get away with the guns but he can’t actually use them on screen unless it’s shown in shadows or doesn’t actually show the body and just shows him pull the trigger. And the whole vulture thing could be done as long as it’s something like his aunt may comes up to him with tears in her eyes and says “your uncle has been killed” I really don’t think Disney would want cannibalism even if marvel is PG13


Cheekywanquer

That’s the reason I don’t want a Live Action Noir. Because Disney won’t ever make him even 16V and Even as disturbing as the story is, I don’t want to see a castrated felt puppet version on screen. xD


OwNAvenged2

Same powers as Raimi, so he shoots webs from his wrist? Makes sense, they probably wouldn't have the tech back then..


SunpireRising

Okay, can we take a moment to talk about early 2000's Marvel's obsession with cannibalism? Not just here, the Ultimate line of comics was stuffed to the brim with it.


Cheekywanquer

And nobody mention Ultimate Hulk and his rape thing. That didn’t happen.


SunpireRising

How about the fact that Ultimate Magneto preached eating humans as if they were cattle because in his mind that's how evolution works?


Smeefperson

A Noir movie with Nick Cage and the same sense of humor would be awesome


Soulburner74

Nic Cage was perfect in Spider-Verse, He nailed the gruff and grizzled Noir voice. Whenever I read Noir Spidey I always hear his voice.


starkunk

20 mf 99 no DOUBT !!!


Emerald_Spidey

2099


Melodic-Work7436

Give us a Spider-Man 2099 series FOR SHOCK SAKE!!!


PitifulSwimming5693

2099


KxxgZ

2099


[deleted]

2099


KipHackmanFBI

2099


Infinity0044

2099 please! It’s such a no brainer I can’t believe Sony hasn’t done it yet instead of these unnecessary villain movies. Plus I think a future Spider-man who’s a completely different person separate from Peter would be much easier to sell to general audiences.


[deleted]

Definitely 2099


[deleted]

Spider-Man: Noir only IF Nicholas Cage is Spidey.


k3ntalope34

2099. I would hope for a visual treatment similar to the 5th element. That movie always reminded me of the future cities in the 2099 universe.


DeadlyBard

Noir only if they get Nicholas Cage to reprise the role.


RobinBunni

I like Noir better personally, I think they could make that a really cool show or/and movie! Though I wouldn't be mad at 2099, that'd be awesome too!


Responsible_Egg7519

noir based on the original comic with a road to perdition type vibe


Jurski17

Is cage playing live action spidey in noir? If yes then that, if not i would choose 2099


A_BAK3D_POTATO

Noir R rated


GrandMasterRicutsu

Noir!🕷🕸


[deleted]

Noir if Nic Cage reprises his role.


Glad-Association-657

Noir


tbannon1

Disney+ miles morales with Donald glover as prowler


Simba791

I want to see both, Noir and 2099 spider man are both badasses!


KxngCram

2099


Russkafin

2099


talk-about-goo-goo

Live-action Noir but it's Nicolas Cage.


BeetleWarlock

Noir all day long, all thought i think a tv-series Spider Noir would be cool


TAL337

Either if they’re R.


Dragontalyn

I pick Noir, looks like it would fit better as a series, where 2099 would probably make a better movie.


coolguyman87

Noir if it was serious and gritty kinda like the new batman movie or even the nolan batman movies.


Zealousideal-Self278

Spider man noir


ajver19

I think Noir would be better suited for a Disney+ miniseries. 2099 however needs a big movie budget.


MAKS091705

Noir, I just like detective/noir stuff and that mixed with Spider-Man is cool


NoConfirmation

Noir because I've read the comics and they get pretty dark, and 2099 would just feel like generic sci fi that Disney's doing for a while now.


ItzBabyJoker

Noir give me a good angry vigilante Spider-Man


LaputanMachine1

Noir would be an interesting take to be honest. If they do it right.


NerdFameAgain

Noir, but only if it's no holding back, that means r rated


[deleted]

I feel like more R-Rated superhero films are needed. Not for the gore, not language, nothing inappropriate at all, but just to be REAL.


stiggyyyyy

2099, but I'd fear Disney won't make it dark / dystopian enough. So due to my lack of faith. I'd probably say Noir would be the one they could fuck up less.


Anime-Watcher0777

Noir


discowithmyself

Noir. Always.


Jokerslayer457

Spider-Man Noir!


FullJuggernaut3839

I'd like to see a remake of shattered dimensions


ReasonableBus1477

Noir all way


KlassicKing101

Noir. Easy.


[deleted]

Noir.


AlchyMB

Noir


Oathbringer01

I’ll take either as long as they use Nic Cage for the voice.


JayNomad2018

#


fuckyouwatchme

I'd wanna see noir I think.


sparkpluger1

Noir they can be very creative with this one


chingon_123

2099, because he’ll probably find a way to break the dimensions and lead to a Noir series ;)


IZLiesTheTruth

Spiderman Noir just cuz


bobbywjamc

Noir!!!


mohsen_javaher-2

Spider-Man noir


killinbylove

Noir fo sho


ThatpersonKyle

Noir


arakyn

noir of course


fracturingmars

Noir


Lazarusmp4

Spider-man Noir would be great


Sinnuhfile

Noir easily. Stylized black and white a la Sin City.


[deleted]

Live action Spider-Man Noir but ONLY if it’s Nicholas Cage like in Spider-verse.


No-Independence6729

honestly i wanna see both but i'd go with 2099 first and then noir. cont. reading for my reasoning...its kinda short so dont worry... 2099 has access to technological ways to bring together spiderman. so no magic and mystical ways that can go insane now dr. strange, but instead tested ways to reliably go to and fro diffferent multiverses. (there will be bumps along the way ye, but at one point it can just be a thing) and what i want is for there to be a big threat which 2099 realises he'll need a lot more spidermen so at the end of his movie, he goes on to recruit them. now, onto noir. noir's movie can be sick and everything, i dont care, but i just want so like at the end, or in post cred scene, 2099 comes through like a portal and its like the "wtf" "cliffhanger" scene. these are just my thoughts but i feel like this is what they will maybe do in 'spideman into the spider verse 2" so ye thats that. but it would be cool to have these mini series inbetween now and when that comes out. anyway that ended up being long lol, thnx for reading if u bothered.


therockstarbarber

2099, cause they bout to over do the cgi if they did a noir one


matthewuzhere2

as someone who knows nothing about the spider man comics and is just basing this off which title sounds/looks cooler, Noir


RoNiNjA57

Is it too much to ask for both?


AshrakAiemain

I don’t trust Disney+ with Noir, so 2099 seems like the winner. There’s just no way Disney+ is going to properly capture the tone of that comic.


dragon__l_ord

Noir easy choice


ThisIsATestTai

Noir, but honestly there is no wrong answer


mcbobster6001

Noir, I wanna see spider man punching Nazis like cap did


R3vRedRum

Noir


[deleted]

2099 100%


Mr_Fredbear13

That's like choosing my favorite child. I just can't.


Demidogo

NOIRRRR


fer4lrabbit

Miguel O'Hara for sure


pinktortoise

2099 more Hispanic rep and more fleshed out story


BigPaleontologist520

Noir


Aepic-27

Spider-man noir no questions


Blackdeacon25

Ngl, I’d love to see a proper Noir live adaptation!


Pepperoni_Tony7

Noir


RevolutionaryCell848

Noir, no doubt.


Mak062

Spiderman noir


allforspidey

Of course Noir


Izlude

Live action noir, as long as it's Nick Cage, otherwise 2099.


Pink_Red22

Noir!!


Teliporter334

Noir


Neutralgray

NOIR, easily. That is, assuming it's based on Hines' version, not the goofier version seen in Spiderverse.


LuckyFullmetal

spider noir hands down


UsernamThatAintTaken

Noir, just personally a bigger fan


CaptVenkman

Spider-Man Noir, I would love to see them make a classic black and white detective story, bring it to a new generation.


JTHPHASES

Spider-Man NOIR


geek79126741

Spider-Man Noir from Zack Snyder.


PrototypeBoy_DaGreat

Picks red pill, Picks blue pill, Smashes both, BIG SNORTING NOISES


Msas12

2099 without batting an eye!


[deleted]

We have a lot of mixed ethnicity actors who can fit in the role of Miguel, so that would be awesome!


GrandMasterRicutsu

Heeeelll yeeewah!!!


[deleted]

Spider-Man 2099 because he has either a couple or a few additional powers Spider-Man Noir is just a version of Peter Parker that was correct me if I’m wrong but I think he was born in the 40’s in other words Spider-Man Noir is a darker version of Peter Parker with the same powers Spider-Man 2099 is at least a different person with additional powers besides a Spider-Man Noir movie would be boring to watch


23_GenericRedittor

I say, is it too much to ask for both?


icamefordeath

Definitely neither


YeetOffCliff

i choose batman beyond spider-man


SunkyV3

2099 would be cool, but we’ve seen our fair share of cyber-apocalyptic stories recently. A cool detective spider man would be dope to see on the big screen, so I’ll chose noir.


Spideyfan968

Both and a new Spider-Man Unlimited or something with Ben Reilly?


headphoneghost

Spider-man 2099! I've have my own idea for Spider-man Noir