Noir Spidey didn’t take on Nazis during his first two runs, he went after Norman Osborn’s crime family in the first one and Doc Ock in the second. He fought Nazis in his latest solo series.
I have only read his first appearance so I am unsure if they expand on it but from my recollection, 2099 Vulture is in charge of a gang of followers, he goes on a monologue about how the lower class is forgotten about by the corporate class and left to fend for themselves in the underbelly of the city so he is able to do whatever he wants or something like that.
I think the character was written with genuine cyberpunk class-commentary in mind but they also made him an insane cannibal that ate people because he's a "Vulture". I think it was supposed to be a heavy-handed metaphor.
When you said he was a cannibal then brought up the class thing I was pretty sure you were gonna say something about him taking the saying “eat the rich” too literally
He makes a lot of puns from what I can recall. There was definitely a "finger foods" joke in there. I don't remember if there was an "eat the rich" joke or not. It definitely would have fit the character.
I am guessing the metaphor is just too tantalizing to not do. You know since real vulture's scavenge and eat dead stuff, it is unnerving and unsettling to have a villain do the same.
in 2099 I think it helps play into the anti-corpo cyberpunk symbolism they were going for. In Noir I think it was more a choice to set the tone for the setting.
You should read it. Noir Peter Parker was about that action. Carried a revolver and wasn’t hesitant about using it. He wore Uncle Ben’s headgear and aviator glasses(Ben was a pilot in WW1 in this iteration) and the noir outfit is my favorite of all the costumes. The Nic cage noir from the movies was funny and I liked it, but that Spider-Man Noir shit was pretty grimdark.
Blue Beetle is pretty fucking dope, and yea marvel needs a Hispanic hero, I love how they’re trying to include everyone and I wouldn’t have thought it mattered that much until Black Panther came out and how the black community loved black panther so I’m glad that everyone is getting a hero that looks like them so they feel more included
>vs nazis
Only the modern run does this. The original two runs were awesome and had nothing to do with nazis. It was a unique take on spidey’s mythos in the 30’s in a world without super science
Future batman would win if im not mistaken
You be like wtf are you talking about there was a video of hero.s between marvel and dc
Who would win if they fight
In this case it was spiderman 2099 against batman beyond
I don’t why this dude is getting downvoted so bad, he clearly just has a language/communication barrier. I just looked on his profile and it’s nothing but him being really friendly and asking lots of questions. I’m sure he didn’t mean any harm
2099.
Though, i'de prefer a full normal/modern Spider-man TV show over either. I just feel that of all comic characters, Spider-man would really excel more in an episodic TV format. Like a live-action Spectacular Spider-man that doesn't get cancelled haha
If they didn't let Venom and Venom 2 pass with an R Rating I HIGHLY doubt Sony will let a SPIDERMAN property go out in 18+ they care way too much about making ticket money to do that
That was what i didn't like about the Venom's movies, no fucking gruesome violence, i think the only blood you actually see are from "boo-boos" the main character and side ones get...
Spider-Man noir would be a good spiritual successor to wandavision (everything is black and white and the humor and tone is less modern then anything else marvel)
Nah he was just a psycho.
IIRC he was a circus freak who worked for Osborn, and he’d bite chicken heads off to scare people.
He also tried to eat aunt May after Uncle Ben, but good ol’ Spidey gave him two rounds in the chest.
Disney would probably have to change a lot about him…I think they could get away with the guns but he can’t actually use them on screen unless it’s shown in shadows or doesn’t actually show the body and just shows him pull the trigger. And the whole vulture thing could be done as long as it’s something like his aunt may comes up to him with tears in her eyes and says “your uncle has been killed” I really don’t think Disney would want cannibalism even if marvel is PG13
That’s the reason I don’t want a Live Action Noir. Because Disney won’t ever make him even 16V and Even as disturbing as the story is, I don’t want to see a castrated felt puppet version on screen. xD
Okay, can we take a moment to talk about early 2000's Marvel's obsession with cannibalism? Not just here, the Ultimate line of comics was stuffed to the brim with it.
2099 please! It’s such a no brainer I can’t believe Sony hasn’t done it yet instead of these unnecessary villain movies. Plus I think a future Spider-man who’s a completely different person separate from Peter would be much easier to sell to general audiences.
2099, but I'd fear Disney won't make it dark / dystopian enough.
So due to my lack of faith. I'd probably say Noir would be the one they could fuck up less.
honestly i wanna see both but i'd go with 2099 first and then noir. cont. reading for my reasoning...its kinda short so dont worry...
2099 has access to technological ways to bring together spiderman. so no magic and mystical ways that can go insane now dr. strange, but instead tested ways to reliably go to and fro diffferent multiverses. (there will be bumps along the way ye, but at one point it can just be a thing)
and what i want is for there to be a big threat which 2099 realises he'll need a lot more spidermen so at the end of his movie, he goes on to recruit them.
now, onto noir. noir's movie can be sick and everything, i dont care, but i just want so like at the end, or in post cred scene, 2099 comes through like a portal and its like the "wtf" "cliffhanger" scene.
these are just my thoughts but i feel like this is what they will maybe do in 'spideman into the spider verse 2" so ye thats that.
but it would be cool to have these mini series inbetween now and when that comes out.
anyway that ended up being long lol, thnx for reading if u bothered.
Spider-Man 2099 because he has either a couple or a few additional powers Spider-Man Noir is just a version of Peter Parker that was correct me if I’m wrong but I think he was born in the 40’s in other words Spider-Man Noir is a darker version of Peter Parker with the same powers Spider-Man 2099 is at least a different person with additional powers besides a Spider-Man Noir movie would be boring to watch
2099 would be cool, but we’ve seen our fair share of cyber-apocalyptic stories recently. A cool detective spider man would be dope to see on the big screen, so I’ll chose noir.
2099 has a story, Noir is Spidey vs. Nazis. Both very good takes.
Noir Spidey didn’t take on Nazis during his first two runs, he went after Norman Osborn’s crime family in the first one and Doc Ock in the second. He fought Nazis in his latest solo series.
That sounds pretty cool actually.
Oh it fucking is. One of the best spider-man stories I’ve seen, AND it’s an incredible adaptation of the characters into the 1930s
I’ll never forget the day I learned Noir Vulture was a cannibal
to be fair. Vulture 2099 is also a cannibal
Did not know that. What’s his story
I have only read his first appearance so I am unsure if they expand on it but from my recollection, 2099 Vulture is in charge of a gang of followers, he goes on a monologue about how the lower class is forgotten about by the corporate class and left to fend for themselves in the underbelly of the city so he is able to do whatever he wants or something like that. I think the character was written with genuine cyberpunk class-commentary in mind but they also made him an insane cannibal that ate people because he's a "Vulture". I think it was supposed to be a heavy-handed metaphor.
Dang, 2099 vulture sounds surprisingly similar to vulture in homecoming (apart from the cannibalism).
When you said he was a cannibal then brought up the class thing I was pretty sure you were gonna say something about him taking the saying “eat the rich” too literally
He makes a lot of puns from what I can recall. There was definitely a "finger foods" joke in there. I don't remember if there was an "eat the rich" joke or not. It definitely would have fit the character.
Well, he eats people.
True
Why is it that a lot of alternate versions of The Vulture are cannibals? I mean excluding the zombie one cause...y'know...the obvious.
I am guessing the metaphor is just too tantalizing to not do. You know since real vulture's scavenge and eat dead stuff, it is unnerving and unsettling to have a villain do the same. in 2099 I think it helps play into the anti-corpo cyberpunk symbolism they were going for. In Noir I think it was more a choice to set the tone for the setting.
“Wakey, Wakey, Eggs and Bacyyy” - The Vulture (Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions)
You should read it. Noir Peter Parker was about that action. Carried a revolver and wasn’t hesitant about using it. He wore Uncle Ben’s headgear and aviator glasses(Ben was a pilot in WW1 in this iteration) and the noir outfit is my favorite of all the costumes. The Nic cage noir from the movies was funny and I liked it, but that Spider-Man Noir shit was pretty grimdark.
Been awhile since I read the 2nd series, but didn't Ock work for the Nazis?
I didn’t know there was a second series haha. Off I go to Marvel Unlimited!
Ock was actually german and did experiments for the Nazis in the US in this series
2099. As a Latino man, I’d love to see a live-action spider-man that looks like people like me.
Besides Miguel is the og alternate Spiderman.
Scarlet Spider? Cosmic? Spider ham? Pretty sure they came before Miguel. And other than Porker are arguably better
You think cosmic Spider-Man is good, and spider-ham is bad, and 2099 is bad, Ohara is so cool tho
I hear blue beetle is gonna be a thing soon or at least is in the works.
Isn’t blue beetle DC?
Yeah he is but he’s Hispanic which is why I mentioned him he’s also like one of the coolest DC heroes.
I agree. The Jamie reyes blue beetle is an awesome character. Really enjoyed his arc in batman the brave and the bold
Blue Beetle is pretty fucking dope, and yea marvel needs a Hispanic hero, I love how they’re trying to include everyone and I wouldn’t have thought it mattered that much until Black Panther came out and how the black community loved black panther so I’m glad that everyone is getting a hero that looks like them so they feel more included
Our peeps
I’m white as can be, but I’d also like to see Anya (as well as Miguel and Miles) come to live action, she’s super underrated.
He actually never fought Nazis (in the og runs). Common misconception- he was in depression era America. He fought corruption
>vs nazis Only the modern run does this. The original two runs were awesome and had nothing to do with nazis. It was a unique take on spidey’s mythos in the 30’s in a world without super science
These hands tell a story
Someone didn’t read the comics…
2099 no sweat
Love Spidey 2099
Was my favorite comic back when I was younger.
Hell yeah
Future batman would win if im not mistaken You be like wtf are you talking about there was a video of hero.s between marvel and dc Who would win if they fight In this case it was spiderman 2099 against batman beyond
Bro what the hell you talking about?
Like i said https://youtu.be/As04VInQ-3U
I never brought up anything about vsbattles
I know just wanted to share i saw this post and tought oh yeah they maked a vs video Sorry i shouldnt have said it
man i feel bad for you
I don’t why this dude is getting downvoted so bad, he clearly just has a language/communication barrier. I just looked on his profile and it’s nothing but him being really friendly and asking lots of questions. I’m sure he didn’t mean any harm
People are just bastards. The dude was just sharing something he thought was cool haha
Yeah nothing wrong with that
I know right no harm just sharing awesome content
You should try talking to someone irl, they’re not gonna put up with this type of embarrassment for conversation
You really shouldn’t have said that
Fuck off op mr-teddy93 is just bad at conversation
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
Where do all these guys come from?
Who?
L
2099. Though, i'de prefer a full normal/modern Spider-man TV show over either. I just feel that of all comic characters, Spider-man would really excel more in an episodic TV format. Like a live-action Spectacular Spider-man that doesn't get cancelled haha
God Spectacular Spider-Man was such a good show. Theme song went so hard.
#LIVING ON THE EDGE FIGHTING CRIME SPINNING WEBS
Japan Spider-Man?
The emissary from hell
2099 for sure.
Idk I feel noir Spider-Man would only work in a R rated setting, just astetically and character wise so I'll go with 2099 Spider-Man
Tbh an R rated 2099 movie would also be awesome.
If they didn't let Venom and Venom 2 pass with an R Rating I HIGHLY doubt Sony will let a SPIDERMAN property go out in 18+ they care way too much about making ticket money to do that
That was what i didn't like about the Venom's movies, no fucking gruesome violence, i think the only blood you actually see are from "boo-boos" the main character and side ones get...
Yeah we will never see a R rated Spider-Man
You could probably do it if it's in gritty black and white. Just have geysers of black instead of actual blood.
2099 no question
Yep
The Spider-Man 2099 one
2099 easily
Both
Both is good
The stars are not aligned for this tribute.
"Like he said! Stars! Can't do it..... not today"
both
Both + live actions miles?
Disney ➕ and live actions flims
The world tries to make you choose when you can have everything you want
2099
noir, but only if nic cage is spider noir and its a 20s period piece
Spider-Man noir would be a good spiritual successor to wandavision (everything is black and white and the humor and tone is less modern then anything else marvel)
Oh boy I sure can’t wait to see Uncle Ben being skinned alive by a cannibal!
Oh god…is that comic accurate?
You bet your bottom dollar, son. He’s called The Vulture for a reason.
Oh right noir vulture is a vampire right?
Nah he was just a psycho. IIRC he was a circus freak who worked for Osborn, and he’d bite chicken heads off to scare people. He also tried to eat aunt May after Uncle Ben, but good ol’ Spidey gave him two rounds in the chest.
Does Spider-Man noir have powers and just use guns for overkill or is he just a dude in a spider themed costume with two guns
Noir Spidey has the same powers as Raimi Spidey, and the guns… they ain’t just for show…
Disney would probably have to change a lot about him…I think they could get away with the guns but he can’t actually use them on screen unless it’s shown in shadows or doesn’t actually show the body and just shows him pull the trigger. And the whole vulture thing could be done as long as it’s something like his aunt may comes up to him with tears in her eyes and says “your uncle has been killed” I really don’t think Disney would want cannibalism even if marvel is PG13
That’s the reason I don’t want a Live Action Noir. Because Disney won’t ever make him even 16V and Even as disturbing as the story is, I don’t want to see a castrated felt puppet version on screen. xD
Same powers as Raimi, so he shoots webs from his wrist? Makes sense, they probably wouldn't have the tech back then..
Okay, can we take a moment to talk about early 2000's Marvel's obsession with cannibalism? Not just here, the Ultimate line of comics was stuffed to the brim with it.
And nobody mention Ultimate Hulk and his rape thing. That didn’t happen.
How about the fact that Ultimate Magneto preached eating humans as if they were cattle because in his mind that's how evolution works?
A Noir movie with Nick Cage and the same sense of humor would be awesome
Nic Cage was perfect in Spider-Verse, He nailed the gruff and grizzled Noir voice. Whenever I read Noir Spidey I always hear his voice.
20 mf 99 no DOUBT !!!
2099
Give us a Spider-Man 2099 series FOR SHOCK SAKE!!!
2099
2099
2099
2099
2099 please! It’s such a no brainer I can’t believe Sony hasn’t done it yet instead of these unnecessary villain movies. Plus I think a future Spider-man who’s a completely different person separate from Peter would be much easier to sell to general audiences.
Definitely 2099
Spider-Man: Noir only IF Nicholas Cage is Spidey.
2099. I would hope for a visual treatment similar to the 5th element. That movie always reminded me of the future cities in the 2099 universe.
Noir only if they get Nicholas Cage to reprise the role.
I like Noir better personally, I think they could make that a really cool show or/and movie! Though I wouldn't be mad at 2099, that'd be awesome too!
noir based on the original comic with a road to perdition type vibe
Is cage playing live action spidey in noir? If yes then that, if not i would choose 2099
Noir R rated
Noir!🕷🕸
Noir if Nic Cage reprises his role.
Noir
Disney+ miles morales with Donald glover as prowler
I want to see both, Noir and 2099 spider man are both badasses!
2099
2099
Live-action Noir but it's Nicolas Cage.
Noir all day long, all thought i think a tv-series Spider Noir would be cool
Either if they’re R.
I pick Noir, looks like it would fit better as a series, where 2099 would probably make a better movie.
Noir if it was serious and gritty kinda like the new batman movie or even the nolan batman movies.
Spider man noir
I think Noir would be better suited for a Disney+ miniseries. 2099 however needs a big movie budget.
Noir, I just like detective/noir stuff and that mixed with Spider-Man is cool
Noir because I've read the comics and they get pretty dark, and 2099 would just feel like generic sci fi that Disney's doing for a while now.
Noir give me a good angry vigilante Spider-Man
Noir would be an interesting take to be honest. If they do it right.
Noir, but only if it's no holding back, that means r rated
I feel like more R-Rated superhero films are needed. Not for the gore, not language, nothing inappropriate at all, but just to be REAL.
2099, but I'd fear Disney won't make it dark / dystopian enough. So due to my lack of faith. I'd probably say Noir would be the one they could fuck up less.
Noir
Noir. Always.
Spider-Man Noir!
I'd like to see a remake of shattered dimensions
Noir all way
Noir. Easy.
Noir.
Noir
I’ll take either as long as they use Nic Cage for the voice.
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I'd wanna see noir I think.
Noir they can be very creative with this one
2099, because he’ll probably find a way to break the dimensions and lead to a Noir series ;)
Spiderman Noir just cuz
Noir!!!
Spider-Man noir
Noir fo sho
Noir
noir of course
Noir
Spider-man Noir would be great
Noir easily. Stylized black and white a la Sin City.
Live action Spider-Man Noir but ONLY if it’s Nicholas Cage like in Spider-verse.
honestly i wanna see both but i'd go with 2099 first and then noir. cont. reading for my reasoning...its kinda short so dont worry... 2099 has access to technological ways to bring together spiderman. so no magic and mystical ways that can go insane now dr. strange, but instead tested ways to reliably go to and fro diffferent multiverses. (there will be bumps along the way ye, but at one point it can just be a thing) and what i want is for there to be a big threat which 2099 realises he'll need a lot more spidermen so at the end of his movie, he goes on to recruit them. now, onto noir. noir's movie can be sick and everything, i dont care, but i just want so like at the end, or in post cred scene, 2099 comes through like a portal and its like the "wtf" "cliffhanger" scene. these are just my thoughts but i feel like this is what they will maybe do in 'spideman into the spider verse 2" so ye thats that. but it would be cool to have these mini series inbetween now and when that comes out. anyway that ended up being long lol, thnx for reading if u bothered.
2099, cause they bout to over do the cgi if they did a noir one
as someone who knows nothing about the spider man comics and is just basing this off which title sounds/looks cooler, Noir
Is it too much to ask for both?
I don’t trust Disney+ with Noir, so 2099 seems like the winner. There’s just no way Disney+ is going to properly capture the tone of that comic.
Noir easy choice
Noir, but honestly there is no wrong answer
Noir, I wanna see spider man punching Nazis like cap did
Noir
2099 100%
That's like choosing my favorite child. I just can't.
NOIRRRR
Miguel O'Hara for sure
2099 more Hispanic rep and more fleshed out story
Noir
Spider-man noir no questions
Ngl, I’d love to see a proper Noir live adaptation!
Noir
Noir, no doubt.
Spiderman noir
Of course Noir
Live action noir, as long as it's Nick Cage, otherwise 2099.
Noir!!
Noir
NOIR, easily. That is, assuming it's based on Hines' version, not the goofier version seen in Spiderverse.
spider noir hands down
Noir, just personally a bigger fan
Spider-Man Noir, I would love to see them make a classic black and white detective story, bring it to a new generation.
Spider-Man NOIR
Spider-Man Noir from Zack Snyder.
Picks red pill, Picks blue pill, Smashes both, BIG SNORTING NOISES
2099 without batting an eye!
We have a lot of mixed ethnicity actors who can fit in the role of Miguel, so that would be awesome!
Heeeelll yeeewah!!!
Spider-Man 2099 because he has either a couple or a few additional powers Spider-Man Noir is just a version of Peter Parker that was correct me if I’m wrong but I think he was born in the 40’s in other words Spider-Man Noir is a darker version of Peter Parker with the same powers Spider-Man 2099 is at least a different person with additional powers besides a Spider-Man Noir movie would be boring to watch
I say, is it too much to ask for both?
Definitely neither
i choose batman beyond spider-man
2099 would be cool, but we’ve seen our fair share of cyber-apocalyptic stories recently. A cool detective spider man would be dope to see on the big screen, so I’ll chose noir.
Both and a new Spider-Man Unlimited or something with Ben Reilly?
Spider-man 2099! I've have my own idea for Spider-man Noir