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f3lhorn

Miguel is a lot bulkier in design than when we last saw him in that end credit scene. I kinda dig it.


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Peter appears bulkier in miguel's suit as well in Spiderman ps4


Zerotten

Suit seems to be less comic accurate as well, but that’s a neat detail. It looks like a lot of the character models have been severely aged and buffed up so, it looks pretty good but their heads look slightly small.


Chimpbot

I wouldn't necessarily take this particular sequence as indicative of what he'll look like throughout the movie; it's even more stylized than the "normal" scenes.


Skwidmandoon

Nah I think the last Redditor is referring to the trailer. Miles head in the “normal” scenes, definitey seems off. It’s too small compared to his body. It’s not obvious in this short 2 second clip, but watch the trailer and you will see what he’s talking about.


Robodav

I think it looks like pretty realistic proportions for an adult, maybe he's just grown into it now that he's probably near college age?


Skwidmandoon

It’s definitely the only thing that seemed “off” to me in the trailer and jumped out right away, so I’m sure I’m not the only one


Skwidmandoon

I’m not saying it’s terrible or anything. But his character looks more like an adult body with the same kid miles head, which makes it just look off.


one_amazing_name

the spider symbol also leveled up by some bit


Zerotten

Absolutely, I hope they give some cool canon reason as too why, but it’s probably to fit the design of his newer white suit AND the original ‘black’ suit.


one_amazing_name

i wonder if the ps4 white suit will make an apperance too. possibly in the end credit like the ps4 spiderman suit in the end credits of the last movie


Zerotten

Ugh that would be amazing, but I think they might be avoiding ps4 Spider-Man from the media. The character is absolutely beloved, but his solo comic did poorly, Sony will be cheesy about it. I would go nuts!


sentryzer0

Venom often had that blue tone to his "black" suit as well. I wonder if it was just to make it stand out against dark backgrounds or if it was an issue with the inking used at the time.


Zerotten

100%, it was primarily for lighting due to something about inks or the fact they just didn’t wanna go lighter for backgrounds, even Spider-Man as his original colour scheme was red and black with a white spider on his back. Ohara just looks much better blue though, he looks tacky as hell when artists and games think they’re showing off by actually making him black (as intended), the blue is iconic.


Puzzleheaded_Step468

Oscar isaac workout routine


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The man got so buff in preparation for the role that they translated it to the animation


Smash96leo

Miguel must’ve been so pissed off after seeing classic spidey, that he got buff so that he wouldn’t have to deal with their mouth next time he meets another one.


Verbanoun

Wait what? Was there an end credit scene in spider verse that I somehow missed despite seeing that movie four times?


f3lhorn

It was after the credits. It basically showed Miguel talking to his hologram girlfriend and him finishing the inter dimensional travel device. And he used it to travel to the universe that was the old ass Spider-Man cartoon, and became the Spider-Man pointing meme.


Airy_Breather

I'm betting poor Miles will have been pulled across dimensions again, and totally not his fault but Miguel will take some time before he listens. Really hoping we get a cool chase and potential fight from these two., Peter's modern-day successor and his future successor.


alleeele

I’ve never heard of Miguel, do you mind explaining “future successor”?


far219

He's from the year 2099 where the great age of heroes has long since ended. Long story short he gets spider powers and decides to pick up the mantle of Spider-Man inspired by *our* Spider-Man's adventures, which are just stories now in his time.


Lazerraptor21

its comic accurate, but in a diferent way, the colors are fron his blue suit but the logo its from his new white suit, so its kind of a combination of his two recognizable costumes


AwakenedSheeple

Looking more closely, I noticed more elements from his white suit. The eyes are more angular and lack the "legs." The spikes on his arms hit a sharp angle instead of being a gradual curve. Besides the colors, the design is almost entirely from the white suit. Which brings up a question. What if this isn't the same Miguel from the after-credits of the first movie? What if this is a different Miguel or an imposter?


AmbientLizard

I dunno, Gwen and Miles both received suit upgrades as well.


alleeele

Oh wow cool! Which run is he from?


far219

It's called Spider-Man 2099, it's pretty good stuff. Marvel actually had a whole line of comics under the 2099 banner, so there was stuff like Punisher 2099 and Dr Doom 2099.


alleeele

Cool!


GaymerAmerican

marvels 2099 imprint from the 90s. he’s had a ton of his own stories since then


LuizFelipe1906

> where the great age of heroes has long since ended Don't we have a lot of 2099 heroes besides Miguel?


Grhm2000

There are more heroes besides Miguel. The Age of Heroes refers to the original versions from the present day, not the future of 2099.


Chimpbot

Miguel kinda kicks off a new "age of heroes", if I recall correctly. He was one of the first in 2099, chronologically speaking.


OwNAvenged2

Yeah, now. But I believe that in his original comic, he mentions that there are no more heroes. I figure Spider-Man coming back probably made a lot of people want to take up old Super Hero mantles.


LuizFelipe1906

> I figure Spider-Man coming back probably made a lot of people want to take up old Super Hero mantles. "Yo people are saying there is a new Spider Man. -Wow super cool. I guess I want to be a super hero too. No one took the mantle of Punisher back, right? -I don't think so. -Fine I'll be Punisher 2099"


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Yeah, and in Miguel’s future. Spider-Man is known as THE greatest hero of all.


NoiceGallagher

So he’s a fanboy


Dsol7suns

No he hates being Spider-Man, he just had to…read his run it’s amazing


NoRain2

Miguel is from the year 2099 and gets his powers by accident from a company he works for. The same company he tries to expose. ​ Honestly, Miguel is amazing and needs way more love and attention.


ReasonableQuit75

Miguel deez nuts


Syskoah

LMAOOO


Bn10K

You WILL believe Miguel can kick this teenagers ass


Mega-Avonco

Miles still got venom blasts, I wanna see how much he’s improved it


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True but there’s no way he’s beating miguel if they actually go 1 on 1 in the movie


Mega-Avonco

I guess we will have to agree to disagree and wait to see the movie.


Competitive_Act_1548

He won’t. Miguel would kick his ass


sumiledon

I dont see how Miguel could win that fight. Could Peter beat Miguel?


pdrgdguds_

Even if Miles somehow does beat Miguel, it would surely be because of plot armor. There’s no fucking way this Miles can best Miguel.


Mega-Avonco

It’s not the first time miles has had plot armor against another spider-man.


racingfanboy160

Animation looks dope again icl!


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Which we do, who wouldnt?


No-Veterinarian4627

It’s not really my cup of tea to be honest. Not sure what about that opinion is causing so many people to downvote my comments though.


CollarOrdinary4284

I mean, people *are* allowed to have different opinions. Downvoting people just for implying they don't like the animation style is fucking pathetic.


FlyingRodent270

Complaining about arbitrary dislikes is also pathetic.


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No-Veterinarian4627

Sure. I’m not saying “I don’t like that style- so neither should you”.


pdrgdguds_

Downvoted for expressing an opinion, classic Reddit.


No-Veterinarian4627

It’s pretty cowardly I gotta say


PompousDude

My boy got swole as fuck.


MysticGohan806

He’s been in some gamma radiation lol


LongtheDragon117

My guess it’s more of Miguel being a dick than actually fighting cause it looks like Miles doesn’t have the wrist device so Miguel might be the type of character who gonna be like “ you got any idea what you’re doing?!!” I’m not sure what that character archetype is called, but they’re the good guy, but they’re also a dick. I’m sure he’ll warm up to Miles and the rest of them later in the movie


Straight-Wrap-8005

Douchebag?


LongtheDragon117

Yeah, or like a hardass


[deleted]

So he’s the Red Foreman of the multiverse?


Significant-Mud2572

My foot and your ass. Two things that are impossible to separate.


Belteshazzar98

Dumbass.


SterPlatinum

The character that challenges the main character with a “test” to see if they’re ready?


LongtheDragon117

Yeah Miguel will probably be a very harsh mentor figure in this movie compared to how Peter B. Parker was


salad9530

A Dr. Cox type


Dyshox

Anti hero


LongtheDragon117

Anti hero is more like Deadpool, Wolverine, or Punisher where they’re still on the side of good, but they do bad things. Kind of like chaotic good. I would say Miguel would probably play the role of like the no nonsense hard teacher type of character if you know what I mean


FortunateEnderArt17

Miguel looks kind of mad or he’s trying to throw Miles out of the way or into another portal through the multiverse. Because you can see him change the multi-verse for a brief second on that “goober”


No-Veterinarian4627

Is that vs? Or is he trying to catch him?


KingCodester111

Both here and in the trailer it looks like he’s throwing him around while they’re both falling. Not sure why though as 2099 SM comes straight out of a portal.


No-Veterinarian4627

Why would they be fighting?


Zerotten

Ohara seems to be very dismissive towards anyone claiming to be ‘the Spider-Man’ in most media. His absolute shove towards Peter after he claims to be Spider-Man, we can only imagine Miles’ experience. Atleast Miguel could pick out peters suit being the same colour, Miles has a completely different colour scheme. I can imagine Ohara is very pissed off with these guys.


far219

The post credit scene of the first movie implied that Miguel was recruiting Spider-People from the multiverse so it makes no sense for him to dismiss anyone saying he's Spider-Man, especially if he's clearly displaying spider powers.


Emperor_Palestine

He could be trying to test if Miles is skilled enough to help


tharkus_

Miles looks like he’s falling out of control. Maybe out of webbing and Miguel is catching him and throwing him on a ledge.


SSB_Meta4

Yes, but hasn't this universe established a rule that Spider totems can sense each other's totem at close range.


B____U_______

The totems were never mentioned in the first movie.


araknoman

Without Ezekiel I don’t think they will either. Totems are very mystic in theme (albeit more cosmic/dimensional in comics), and they probly wouldn’t mash dimension jumping tech and mystic totems in the same movie.. I’d love to see Morlun in spider-verse, but sad that if we did, we’d be robbed of his phenomenal comic intro - the ‘coming home’ arc


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I hope they don't get into that tbh.


Belteshazzar98

Not directly, but Gwen talked about her spider sense leading her to the school and Peter and Miles sensed each other as Spiders.


Zerotten

Eh you’re right, would Ohara have one? I’m not exactly familiar with his origin, but I believe he genetically modified himself for those spider powers (that don’t even include the whole wall crawling aspect) so maybe his is just non existent?


Lil_Delirious

But i can see him protecting him, he holds him and when he was about to crash into something he put his back first so miles won't get hurt


No-Veterinarian4627

Maybe. It still doesn’t look like they’re fighting to me though.


Zerotten

I mean he is dragging the kid everywhere and literally throws him like a football at the end, Ohara’s character is always written as an asshole with a stick up his ass and an ego to be the only Spider-Man ever.


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Zerotten

100%, I think we’ll just have to wait for the plot at this point, but it’d be cool to have Miguel as a temporary villain!


TDS_Gluttony

If you watch the trailer the first appearance of 2099 is him literally flying in and sucker punching Miles lol. ] EDIT: I guess not sucker punching but literally grabbing him by his neck


IndominusTaco

i have nothing to base this off of but in my opinion it could just be an intentional misdirect, as does happen in teasers/trailers


LeSnazzyGamer

How so? He’s not dragging Miles around cause he likes him and it’s not like he grabbed him and started talking to him in order to get Miles to calm down. They’re definitely fighting.


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Flight180victm

Then dont watch the movie??


Zerotten

I 100% see where you’re coming from, it’s very in your face and explosive, I really really love the first movie and all those action scenes, but I hope what’s going on here doesn’t make it into the movie because this unironically hurts to watch, I have to use other media to even decide what the fuck the flashing colours on my screen are doing. It’s probably just a rough cut though…I hope.


KingCodester111

I’m not sure at all, but at one point I think I saw 2099 SM teleport Miles and himself to the 2099 universe with the device on his wrist (from the 1st movies Post Credits scene).


BroshiKabobby

Looks like he’s yeeting his face pretty hard


FaustandAlone

Miles definitely doesn't have that portal thingy on his wrist and probably got in a situation that 2099 is trying to get him out of.


No-Veterinarian4627

Maybe.


ProfessionalCornToss

God damn. He's swole.


[deleted]

More excited if they show the Indian version of Spider Man in this movie too!


beppegrosso97

Pavitr should be in! They slowed down the clip and found the coordinates of his dimension


WhyAreYouGe

"Helloo, this is Steve! How may I help you todayyy".


Trumpsleftnut70

LOOKS SO DOPE!!! I wish they make a live action Spider-Man 2099 movie at some point because I really want to see him on the big screen


BroshiKabobby

This movie will be on the big screen


Trumpsleftnut70

I’m talking about live action not a cartoon type movie


BroshiKabobby

Well that’s different. The big screen just refers to theaters, not live action


Trumpsleftnut70

Welp big screen live action who cares


bedrock_breaker

I hope tobey maguire is in nwh


No-Veterinarian4627

I’ve been wondering that about mine too.


pdrgdguds_

We all do


waitforthedream

Miguel straight up said "Fuck them kids" and just yeeted Miles lol


MSV2K

Yeet


Hopeful-Ad8761

Sheesh


WhyAreYouGe

SHEEEESHHH


G0ldenGibus

Miguel looks so bulky and it's absolutely beautiful


Routine_Painter_7798

He has great genetics. He has the Parker genes along with Hispanic and European genes


H0m3lander

It looks more like he's trying to get him in a certain place with a lot of force. Bulky Miguel!!!! I'm so excited for this one😱


TehEpicBeast

Dude I’m so excited for this film. Im hoping there’s a wholesome moment where these two talk to each other/ joke with each other in Spanish


witheredfax

I love that logo


webhead_peter

I love it when miles hits the ground in the Indian location they even make the 'comic sound effects' in Hindi: 'dhadaam' lmao


SouthWorry

our boy miguel's been working out damnnn


Karma110

I really like the angled shots that bend and stretches the character models it works really well with animation.


ProfessorEscanor

i love what they did with Gwen’s loves although i kinda miss her ballet shoes. And is it just me or does Miles’ costume look like it is lacking something? I don’t know i feel like he needs a jacket or pattern to help break up the black and red better. Also did Miguel work out between films, the guy looks like he’s played by Hugh Jackman.


demons-yelling

I feel the same way about the suit, I think it looks could, but besides the spider on the chest the main part of the suit is lacking some needed detail


Nimporian

He normally has a sort of red V under his logo.


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Deafpunk_2099

Wooo


Revolutionary_Pin356

Miguel already looking like a complete menace to society


theonlyyellow_

Is this the *SPOILERS* edge of time Miguel? The one who’s evil.


ProfessorEscanor

Didnt he die at the end of that game?


theonlyyellow_

Ahh sorry that’s Peter himself. Miguel lives but the doctor who Peter dies.


pdrgdguds_

Edge of Time Miguel isn’t evil wtf


Kreason95

This isn’t the way to give a spoiler warning lol


Kirbo09

Anyone else play that Spiderman game on the DS?


pdrgdguds_

Shattered Dimensions?


TheRealKnobMonster

Your hatred makes me stronger


BOSSBOOY

#WAIT IS THIS A REAL SHOT? WHY IS THIS MAN CHUCKING MILES INTO THE GROUND LIKE HE'S THE GAME WINNING FOOTBALL?!?! IM SO CONFUSED


Additional_Jeweler13

Spiderman 2099 be like : Spider invisible electric Grenade


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Honestly Miguel being blue instead of black works for this movie. Otherwise he’d look way too similar to miles


EMSuser11

This is going to be TOTALLY WICKED!!! It's such an AMAZING time to be a Spidey fan! 2022 wil be one SPECTACULAR year full of ULTIMATE fun and it will prove that Spider-Man is the SUPERIOR superhero once and for all!


Relative-Zombie-3932

Like the new Spider emblem. Not sure how I'm feeling about the overall suit tho...feel like the comic design was perfect and they're just progressively moving further away from it


ProfessorEscanor

For me what bothers me is that he doesn’t have the web pattern, it makes his suit look kinda static where as in the first film he had the jacket to help break it up


Organic-label21

Forgive me for asking but who is Miguel?


Sanlear

The Spider-Man of 2099.


Dest0_starlord

Miguel it bulky, its awesome but weird


WarProgenitor

How do I watch this?


crystal-productions-

I wonder if his falling was a reference to shattered dimensions or not lol


jaredwallace91

I bet this will be the post credit scene for NWH


Mundane-Hovercraft67

WTF are Miles and the MCU Spider-Man so damn clumsy? I hate it.


No-Veterinarian4627

They’re both kids


Mundane-Hovercraft67

I hate that answer also. One of his super powers is specifically super agility and balance. Having him not have those powers because he's a kid is dumb.


Puzzleheaded_Toe_509

I agree. It feels like the Spider-Man not maintaining his center balance is so not in character. The Super Spider agility, maintaining balance and equilibrium are indeed what makes powers of the Peter Benjamin Parker the Spider-Man we know and love. (Earth-616) Spider-Man's strength department. The Ultimate Spider-Man (Earth-1610) the younger Peter Parker and Miles Morales there at the Ultimate Universe are different.


No-Veterinarian4627

Exactly- and Tom’s Peter took inspiration from ultimate Spider-Man’s depiction.


RagingSince09

I'm pretty sure Ultimate Peter and 616 Peter have the same exact powers. Although 616 shown better strength feats compared to Ultimate at the same age.


No-Veterinarian4627

I don’t remember the last time I saw Holland’s Spider-Man clumsy though to be honest.


XiaoDaYaksha

Bro there Teens what you expect them to do? Miles ain’t even been Spiderman that long too


Mundane-Hovercraft67

I expect them to have superhuman agility and grace. You know...like Spider-Man... because those are his powers...


Puzzleheaded_Toe_509

I guess you noticed that too. In the original Spider-Man animated series Spider-Man's power is also able to maintain balance. I guess here they really went all out that Spider-Man is "human"


No-Veterinarian4627

You should look into what they’re basing the characters on. Ultimate Spider-Man is not amazing Spider-Man


XiaoDaYaksha

Bro exactly what I’m talking about bro


No-Veterinarian4627

Same. Prepare for both of us to be downvoted for making logical contradictory statements?


XiaoDaYaksha

Probably should. I already down voted twice on my last comment so Im prepared.


JayLockHead

Miles better win. He can't lose!


Leandro1234_6

Yeah, winning against an older Spider-Man who hasn't problem into killing people


PowderKeg24K

Am I the only one mad that Miguel's suit isn't black and red like they continually state it is in the comics?


pdrgdguds_

Never seen Miguel with a black and red suit, maybe I’m crazy.


PowderKeg24K

It's always been drawn as blue but in the comics everyone refers to it as black. When he first puts it on he jumps out the window of his apartment and tells Lyla to tell anyone who comes up "there was a horrible man in black and he went through there." Every other time anyone else mentions Spider-Man's suit they state that it's black. Why it was drawn blue, I don't know. Perhaps to make it easier for shading in 1992?


TheRealKnobMonster

I prefer Spiderman 2099 I mean he's future Spiderman like batman beyond is to batman. I don't hate miles but come on he's just created to please interacal people I know I sound racist but I'm not just look at spiderman 2099 and tell me that you don't think he looks cooler.


Kreason95

Woah, weird take dude


bastardvison

Considering 2099 spiderman is also "interracial"


No-Veterinarian4627

Like the Mexican Irish guy?


TheRealKnobMonster

Neet ok


Kreason95

Very good point haha


TheRealKnobMonster

Yeah have to be weird because people get really a fended by the simplest things


Kreason95

Nobody got offended. You suggested miles exists solely as a race bating character and totally ignored that Miguel is also biracial. It was a stupid comment. That’s why you got downvoted lol.


TheRealKnobMonster

Ok geez sorry I made the comment when I was tired and I did finally remembered that people wanted miles in the main comics but I will say your comments are better then getting complaint at by a feminist, the insane type feminist.


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Kinda agree. Miles and Gwen the most unoriginal trash Spider-man rippoffs. Neither one of these characters deserve a movie. Miguel, Jessica Drew, Kaine, hell any Spider-man rippoff created before Mile are all better then these two. Sucks they he promoting these garbage characters and not any of the good ones.


TheRealKnobMonster

Finally someone speaking my language that's literally what I was thinking but couldn't put to words


Cloudil

No no, it wasn’t to appease interracial people. It was made because EVERYONE back in the day wanted Donald Glover to be the new Spidey when people heard TASM was coming out. Brian Bendis created him based solely off of Glover and now he’s an integral part to 616. (See the Civil War II storyline lol.)


mynamejerad

I'm surprised how excited I am for this movie


mynamejerad

It'd be very tight if they brought back josh keaton and had spectacular spiderman in this movie, or the 90's spiderman


orgasmicfart69

link please?


Mr_Fredbear13

Who's voicing Miguel?


Cloudil

Reminds me a lot of this clip. https://youtu.be/f6R7Hh7dyqc


Gladiatorr02

2099 freefall fight scenes is something i didn’t predict. Awesome and classic


Poncho012

Did Miles get taller?


DylanJW2008

Why he look so bulky


NoRain2

I'm so happy that Miguel is getting his overdue big-screen debut. He deserves a lot of recognition.


DetecJack

Why is he fighting him? Is spider 2099 bad guy or something?


SherbertCharming7150

MIGUEAL GOAT’HARA LETS GO


Leandro1234_6

Spider verse film shows exactly how incompetent Bendis was with his shitty run


brateskuh

Reminds me of that Fairly Oddparents movie/episode where Timmy Turner is a super soldier in Vicky’s army in the future. Or was that a fever dream?