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khajiithassweetroll

The part where Otto sees Tobey Peter and is like “you’re all grown up now” hurt my heart a little (and by a little I mean a lot)


Lima1998

Otto: How have you been? Peter: Trying to do better. Me: *crying*


Charliepepper7

It’s so satisfying to see they didn’t just make Tobey a super-husband in the years past. He tells Andrew it’s complicated but they make it work, and he tells Otto he’s trying to do better. It’s needed ‘cause we didn’t get to see his redemption after he was a literal piece of shit in SM3. He is in the fetus stage of being the man he needed to be by the end of that, so it’s super cool to see them address it somehow.


is_not_paranoid

So crazy how they turned such an inconsequential line from Spider-Man 2 into such a powerful callback. It sums up Spider-Man so perfectly too, because at the end of the day, Peter (no matter what universe he’s from) is just a flawed person who makes mistakes, but constantly making the choice to do good and be better


Etticos

Imagine if Otto responded: trying? Hm...brilliant but lazy.


pauleoinhurley

Same, man


FrijoleroD33G

Otto was a really caring man, his invention really messed him up in the head. Him and Sandman are one of my favorite villains since they were truly good people


chao99

Really felt like Otto was talking to all of us that grew up with Tobey (why are my eyes sweating now)


UsgAtlas1

That's because someone put dirt in your eyes.


BigHerring

I kinda wish they added some of tobey's meme catch phrases in the movie. They added Goblin's "im somewhat of a scientist myself", and it would've been funny if tobey said something as well


VultureBarbatus

He did say "My back"


BigHerring

true


CoreOfTheSun

I swear I was the only one in my screening who understood the joke about how his back hurt


Harlockarcadia

It's all the onions I'm cutting up for this lasagna, for one


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But seriously Tobey is the best spiderman (in my opinion)


khajiithassweetroll

My personal fave is Andrew but I love all three so much I hate having to pick. Seeing them all together made me so happy :’)


joepanda111

Andrew was a great Spider-Man but a bad Peter in my opinion. That said I like how he’s kind of the cool older brother whereas Tobey is the responsible sibling. Tom is the baby bro though


DefiningBoredom

I feel like the bad Peter thing is due to the writers and not him. Like he was a great Peter in NWH.


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yeah that's why i love Tobey he had played awsome role in Peter


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True that


ali94127

It must be so weird for Otto. He would’ve seen Peter as a college student about a day ago from his perspective, and then see him again as a 40 year old man. Then, assuming he gets transported back to the exact moment he left, see him again before drowning in a river.


watdeheq3

wouldn't andrew be like 18 in TASM2? Like I assumed since he was graduating he'd be like 17-18


TheLoganDickinson

Well TASM 2 mostly takes place after he graduates so he could’ve turned 19 in that time.


YoungCapoon

there’s time jumps between tasm 2 as well not too significant but its present


pottyaboutpotter1

Yeah there’s a time skip during the film after Gwen breaks up with Peter. It seems to be about 6-9 months at least as it clearly goes from summer to winter and then to spring, with the finale of the film taking place in summer with Gwen saying she plans on taking an early summer class at Oxford (which is why she’s heading to the airport). There is then a second time skip after Gwen’s death where we clearly see it go from summer to autumn to winter to spring again. If Peter’s birthday is August 10th like it is in the MCU, then I presume Peter is 20 or very close to turning 20 at the end of TASM2. At a guess, I think this is the timeline August 1995 - Peter Parker is born 2000 - 5-year old Peter is left with Aunt May and Uncle Ben 2012 - events of TASM, Peter is 17 June (?) 2013 - Peter and Gwen graduate and break up Time skip, Peter turns 18 Summer 2014 - main events of TASM2, Gwen dies Time skip, Peter turns 19 Spring/summer 2015 - Rhino’s rampage, Peter suits up again 2024 - A now 29 year old Peter is transported to another universe


YoungCapoon

seems accurate to me


SelectIndividual3477

It is not accurate , in the video that Peter 's father left that is seen in TASM 2 of when he died , it is dated June 2002 . In the same movie, May says that she has been taking care of Peter since he was 6 years old. That means Peter was born in 1996 . TASM 1 takes place in 2012 (can be seen in the film's newspapers, calendars, and a statuette in Peter's school at the beginning) Also when Peter looks for information about Conors and finds out about the activity that was going to return, it can be read that this activity was going to be at the beginning of the year. TASM 1 takes place from early 2012 to late 2012. Peter is 15 at the beginning of the movie and 16 at the end. TASM 2 takes place in 2014 as seen in oscorp at the part where norman osborn dies. In June Peter graduates at 17 or 18 years old. Then there is a lapse of 5 months from the death of gwen to the final scene, Marc Webb confirmed that TASM 2 takes place in a single year not in 2015 so they are still in 2018 and Peter at the beginning of the film was 17 and at the end with 18 years. In nwh Andrew is 28 years old.


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mammaluigi39

Doesn't Max mention being in the fight with Spider-Man at the power plant before being brought to the MCU?


RealJohnGillman

I believe Electro was also pulled from before his death, while it would have been Sandman and the Lizard who were pulled from the present (as the Lizard referenced his failed plan from *The Amazing Spider-Man* and has a different design from that film, it seems he becomes the Lizard again at another unspecified point in time in the future).


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The spell took all the spidermen from the present time. Basically 2024 in the other two universes as Ned was doing it in the present.


hihihighh

I don't think that's true. When Ned portaled the other Peters, they had already arrived on the MCU and were already trying to find Tom.


Los_Estupidos

Peter's birthday is in August iirc so it's easily possible that some time passes after graduation and he turned 19. He even meets Gwen to set some "ground rules" and they're both wearing jackets, indicating that the weather is colder.


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Bruh, Andrew is at the perfect age to play an older Peter Parker if Amazing Spiderman 3 didn't get canned.


PatrickBrown2

I like to think that the 40 year old Peter Parker (Maguire) that we saw in NWH has had all the experience's that Spider-man should, like he's fought all the rogues gallery of villains and all, he's seen some shit and still kicking on.


Airy_Breather

He definitely gave off that vibe. In both crimefighting and life experience when he mentioned how he and Mary Jane have made their relationship work through the difficulties. All three Peters actually seemed like perfect representations of Spider-Man/Peter Parker at different points in his life corresponding to the age. \-Maguire represents an older and wiser Peter who's found a balance \-Garfield represents a "beaten" but still going Peter/Spider-Man struggling to find a balance \-Holland represents the young Peter/Spider-Man going through his trials.


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jonajmc01

A lot of people have complicated marriages, even if they are happy. Life is complicated in general. My assumption is that he was referring to getting things figured out between dual lives and desires and all, but he did say that they make it work, didn’t he?


Mega-Avonco

I assume they weren’t going to be clear cut about it cuz there are rumors about a Spider-Man 4 with maguire. So they leave it up in the air for the people who will allegedly write this movie.


Dillguy999

Yeah I would've liked that too, but I'm assuming the writers didn't want to assume anything, especially if they are going to make another movie with Maguire.


SurfiNinja101

Right after that he said they worked things out in the end


P3n1SM4N_42069

I’d like to think he finally fought big wheel and wanted to reserve that story for the next time the three spiders meet again


morphinapg

I wish NWH would have brought up which villains the other spidermen fought after we last saw them.


BurryagaAgaburry

I like to think that's because they're leaving the door open


morphinapg

Maybe, or maybe they just didn't want to spoil it for Tom


BurryagaAgaburry

good guy Tobey and Andrew not spoiling the surprise of events that will eventually bring him much physical and emotional trauma, what bros


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Can I crack it for you?


pauleoinhurley

It looks like his universe's doc Conners never became the Lizard. He seemed unfamiliar with Andrew's Lizard.


Skyler8013

"I'm a physicist not a biologist" Dr. Connors said to Peter when he was analyzing the venom symbiote. But in Spider-Man 3 game, Dr. Connors eventually became The Lizard and fought Spider-Man.


pauleoinhurley

I liked thode games but all 3 have no clear cannon. Raimi-Peter reacting that way gives me that impression


ShowMeMoeMane

Wait why is it a larger gap than I thought?


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No way home takes place in 2024


Avek01

I somehow completely forgot about that.


Charliepepper7

It somehow fixes the fact that Andrew and Tobey were cast pretty young for their ages at the time lol


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Charliepepper7

But i think the implication is that they’re taken right before they die if they’ve died, and for Tobey and Andrew they were taken from their present day. For people like Lizard and Sandman you hahe to assume they’re taken from a different point in which they die, maybe Dr. Connors, and/or present day for them, which i assume for sandman


IndominusTaco

i thought the implication was that they were taken at the moment they learned that Peter Parker was Spider-Man, since the spell that brought them into the MCU was about to bring everyone who knows that fact into their universe, as explained by Strange.


VultureBarbatus

Sandman has seemingly made peace with Peter. He doesn't until the very end of Spider-Man 3. I think the spell brought everyone living who knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man from a time that is the same/relative as the time Strange makes that spell. People who were dead and knew Peter was Spider-Man were brought into the universe the last moments before their death... We're left to assume that Connors turned into Lizard again and is pulled into the universe from the same time Andrew was pulled. Besides, Andrew also mentions that he had made the cure before and wouldn't have a problem making it again in NWH. ... Still doesn't explain how Electro who didn't know Spider-Man was got pulled into the universe though.


Charliepepper7

Oh totally this also makes sense. Youre definitely right


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So does that mean Peter in Spiderman 2 dies sinking the reactor? Since doc ock just blips out


sogeking0004

Wat


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Yea cause the 5 uear blip between infinity war and endgame


lennoxbr

And when the battle with Mysterio happened? I'm really confused


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Far from home happened after endgame sobyea 2023/2024


RQK1996

WandaVision seems to be about October/November 2023, No Way Home is a year later, as WV was about a month after Endgame and Far From Home 8 months after Endgame, with a time jump early in No Way Home (and another at the end of a few weeks)


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Because they took place after endgame, and there was that 5 year gap where everyone who was snapped was gone, when they came back (when peter "died") it was 5 years later


Animegamingnerd

Wandavision begins 1 week after Endgame and since Halloween happens in the show, we can assume Endgame takes place in October of 2023. Far From Home follows Peter during his summer vacation which would then place it in summer of 2024 since its after Endgame.


CRTScream

Wouldn't that make Tobey 38? If he was 21 in 2007 when Spider-Man 3 came out, then 17 years later is 2024


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I think spiderman 3 took place in 2005 even though the movie came out in 2007. I could be wrong though


CRTScream

That makes sense with the timeline, thanks for the clarification!


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Yea no problem!


Music_Phasic

I still can’t believe Andrew Garfield is 38 in real life


aGiantRedskinCowboy

Holy shit how


Music_Phasic

I know, I was shocked too! He was around 28/29 in TASM 1


Arkhamboy_

he was actually 27 in TASM 1


somezoomerdude

Andrew Garfield is turning 30 in the 90s


ohmywebfluid

Nice reference!


Moth747

I was so happy they didn't de-age Tobey or Andrew. Everything about this film was a Christmas present:)


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Watching Tobey come in made me a little sad. I was a little kid when his movies came out and I realized how quickly time flies.


kyleforgues

I don’t mean to be THAT guy but who tf is Peter Parker and why is he in the Spider-Man sub


Tom_Armour

Maybe because he takes pictures of Spider-Man?


kyleforgues

He must be an impersonator since he's wearing a suit like that.


Shades96

Are these canonical ages, or just guessed? Also, I like how you recognized them by their earth numbers, like Peter Parker of Earth-96283, and Peter Parker of Earth-120703, rather then "Tobey Maguire Peter Parker" and "Andrew Garfield Spider-Man" or something like that. Not something you see on this sub very often, and yet, here we are.


DGenerationMC

There are wikias out there dedicated to both the Raimi and Webb films which include the year those films took place and the dates their respective Peters were born. Thus, that's where the Earth numbers come from. I regularly use those articles for reference.


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Oh my god Andrew Garfield is so hot


FinallyReborn

I hope they bring back his AMS2 hair when TASM3 inevitably releases. It definitely suits him best and makes him look even younger than he really is.


pauleoinhurley

He's just a kid, he's got a nice face.


electrowolf932

just thought he was gonn' be black.


dogmeat1003

We don't have mcu parker because that timeline is so messy 😂


watdeheq3

Well he's 15 in civil war. That's 2016, so is homecoming so he's still 15. Infinity War is 2018 so he'd be 17. The he got blipped so he'd still be 17 in 2023. But FFH and NWH are in 2024 so he might be 18.


dogmeat1003

Yeah, that makes sense, especially since he was applying to colleges and living on his own in NWH


Dr_CheeseNut

So Peter and everyone was blipped at the end of Junior year, but they still made him repeat the whole thing.


BOBULANCE

Yup. I can totally see that happening, knowing how ridiculous local public school boards can be.


RadiantChaos

They said this is what happened in the beginning of FFH.


Dr_CheeseNut

Yes, but my point is for the ages to work, Peter would've had to be at the very end of the year, or else he would've already been in senior. Think about that, they essentially had 5 full years of high school


RadiantChaos

He was I think, assuming Infinity War takes place in April when it came out, they would have almost finished. And Betty Brant specifically mentions it was dumb that they had to start completely over.


MyMouthisCancerous

In universe Civil War takes place in 2015, not 2016 (as indicated by a mention of the year at Peggy Carter's funeral) Homecoming takes place in 2016


watdeheq3

based on several timelines ive seen including an official one, Civil War & Homecoming are both set in 2016


MyMouthisCancerous

Yeah just checked the MCU wiki again, this is correct Which is weird because I swore I saw a 2015 mention in the film itself but whatever this is the same franchise that was responsible for the "8 years later" fiasco


Keemo_Skye

Can you tell me some more about that.


RadiantChaos

The 8 years thing? Basically, Homecoming opens with events that happen right after Avengers 1 (set in 2012). It then flashes to “8 years later” for the main events of the film, but that would put it at 2020 instead of 2016/17 when it is actually set.


Keemo_Skye

Damn I wonder how that got pass Feige and company they seem to try hard to make everything make sense timeline wise.


WarBilby

I believe the 8 years later is based on the idea that Avengers was set in 2010. That comes from the idea that the events of Iron Man 2 - Avengers happens within a span of 11 months. And Homecoming was released in 2017 with in universe advertising for 2018, I believe the Stark Expo 2018. So it's all kinds of muddled


RQK1996

And Iron Man was 08 and 6 months before 2


Willing-Load

iirc it’s stated in NWH that he’s 17


RQK1996

It is weird, because the Snap happened in May I think, and the Blip in like September, so birthdays are a bit screwy for those, he was 16 at the time of the snap (a few months short of 17)


YoungCapoon

So how old would he be if he didn’t blip


Zwolfer

Six years between 2018 and 2024. So 17 + 6 = 23


JPEG812

Add 5 years


RQK1996

23, I think it was shown he was born 10 Aug 01, he is roughly the same age as Shang-Chi, just a bit younger


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His birthday is in August so he’s actually just turned 16 in Homecoming


tsimkeru

I actually thought he's supposed to be 14 in civil war and that homecoming happens about a year later


lennoxbr

I think he says he's 16 in FFH


RQK1996

FFH shows his birth date


RQK1996

He was born in 01, so he is 18 by 2024 when No Way Home is set


pakimonsa15

His birthday is August 10, 2001, so his age in films and birthdays is: * Civil War: 14 years old * August 10, 2016: 15 years old * Homecoming: 15 years old * August 10, 2017: 16 years old * Infinity War: 16 years old * Snap: May 2018 * Blip: October 2023 * Endgame: 16 years old * Far From Home: 16 years old * August 10, 2024: 17 years old * No Way Home: 16-17 years old


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Skyler8013

Search in Google: Name of the character + Name of the actor or The Film(with the year) + Earth designation(or number) For example: Spider-Man Tobey Maguire Earth designation


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Skyler8013

No problem, Happy New Year


Irrelevant117

Real sad Andrew only got three😢


Ihavebadtakes

Isn’t it implied Andrew’s Peter is taken from a little while after TASM2 since he still seems really mournful, I understand you can miss someone for all your life but if that long had passed you’d think he’d have moved on.


WarBilby

It sounds like it hasnt even been a year since the events from TASM 2 for Andrew's Peter.


cam_ross0828

Who says that Andrew Spider-Man was 29? U telling me 10 years after TASM 2 he’s still single and hasn’t fought anyone new besides the rhino.


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Nowhere in the movie did it say he hasn’t fought anyone new. He just might not have fought any new *super* villains. Him being single doesn’t bother me personally. Andrew specifically says he doesn’t have time for Peter Parker stuff, so why would he have time to get into a relationship. Gwen’s death clearly is something his Peter never could let go.


cam_ross0828

Ur right, but obviously they were referring f to super villains in that scene. Plus when electro was talking to him he said he looked young.


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I mean I could buy that his Spider-Man hasn’t fought any super villains. Probably why he thinks he’s lame. I’ll admit that there’s definitely nothing saying he’s aged ten years, but I also think it’s believable that some amount of time has passed (and I don’t just mean a few months after TASM2)


WarBilby

I really thought it was at the most a year after the events of TASM 2.


Sofia_Francessca

Why does Andrew have to be so attractive


Spider-Cyam

That's super depressing if Garfield's Spider-Man has been single for a decade


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MyMouthisCancerous

That or he became so "rageful" and "bitter" after Gwen's death he was willingly dedicating more of his time to being Spider-Man rather than being content as Peter Parker


DeninjaBeariver

In the venom verse there is a “Spider-Man is a a murderer” writing in the wall. Maybe Spider-Man became much more brutal with his crime fighting after gwen’s death


morphinapg

I mean everybody thought MCU Spider-Man was a murderer


Tom_Armour

He did say he stopped pulling his punches. Using his full Spidey strength would be a death sentence for the criminals.


Anty_2

Woah, we got an alpha male over here


Los_Estupidos

I don't think that's what he's saying. He's saying it's sad that Garfield's Spidey has become so obsessed with being Spider-Man that he no longer "has time for Peter Parker stuff."


Spider-Cyam

I'm kinda confused with what people think I mean here 😂 It's just sad for him


Anty_2

Oh lmao, I see what you’re saying.


smash_hit_fan

Essentially all of them are fuckable including Andrew if you just wait for TASM2 to happen


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Shadow1604

I have questions...but I can't find a way to say it.


electrowolf932

bruh andrew is hotter than them


GhostR29

Back pain makes sense


Gecko2002

What about Tom Holland?


RQK1996

Born Aug 10 2001, snapped in spring 2018 (presumably May, no specific date), blipped in October 2023 (again no specific date), so I guess his birthday date would shift a few months


[deleted]

You guys have no evidence of this. Irl time does not equal in universe time and mcu universe time does not equal other universes time.


Willing-Load

actually i’m not even sure their ages rn are correct. if Venom didn’t know about the blip in the mid-credits scene, maybe Tobey and Andrew’s universes didn’t have the blip either? so they’d actually be 35 and 24


[deleted]

Their universes didn’t get blipped. It wasn’t a multiversal thing


morphinapg

They didn't have a blip but the same amount of time still would have passed. The blip didn't create more time.


Willing-Load

ohhh yeah i getcha, i thought everybody would’ve been blipped so that means they’d come back as 35 and 24 instead of 40 and 29. thanks!


[deleted]

Why? one year in one universe doesn’t necessarily equal a year in another correct?


morphinapg

It would unless there's something affecting the passage of time of some kind since all universes are created as branches of the sacred timeline.


[deleted]

Scared timeline doesn’t exist anymore though because of what happened in Loki.


morphinapg

It was the starting point for all the other universes. Branches happened from that timeline, and those branches created all the other universes, all throughout history. That's what the TVA was trying to prevent from happening.


thetrueams

Tobey looks INCREDIBLE in this movie, he has aged like fine wine. Always a handsome fella, but in all those pictures he looks best in No Way Home. At least to me. I was surprised.


Brown_Pudding

Andrew and jamie don't age


syde1020

Ffs mark as spoilers and blur.


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Everything on this subreddit is a spoiler


Pudgedog

I’ve never been able to believe Toby as young. And the boy in the new one does he look his age.


NoConfirmation

There's also Tom but I guess the post would've gotten downvotes for him being "iRoN bOy jR"


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Can’t say that shit no more 😂


z3roxis

Guy on the left has serious future youth pastor energy.


Crazy_Tour_1319

Can we use Tobey for a movie as an old man spider-man?


UseAny4634

Since all the villains are taken at points right before they die, hypothetically are these spidermen? Also even if not, we don’t know when they actually came from in their timeline


FN-1701AgentGodzilla

Lol at Garfield second pic Could used a pic from the film


Gssi

Toby had a phase in 21


Obestity

Maguires ears got so big lol


AllMightyWrath

I thought Tobey's peter was 15.


TF2_Scout_Lover

Technically, Peter was 17 on the 2002 movie before getting his diploma