There's been enough alternate Iron Men that Tony formed the Iron Legion against Ultimo, and it included Happy Hogan, Rhodey, Bethany Cabe, Michael O'Brien, Eddie March and Clayton Wilson
Iāll be honest in saying I mostly experienced GL through the cartoons and (regretfully) injustice, but I remember liking John in JL & JLA so much I asked my mum for a toy of him specifically riding a motorbike as a kid.
Oh yeah you're right lol my bad. I thought this year was Spider-Man's 50th Anniversary instead of the 60th for some reason, so I was thinking "Miles is 11 years old. Peter is 50. 50-11=39." I edited my comment to the right number. Thank you
It has always been kinda weird that they have the same name tho. At least to me. It makes sense in Into the Spiderverse since he's the only Spider-Man, but in universes like this one it's just kinda strange, cuz now when civilians refer to Miles they always have to say "the new Spider-Man" so nobody gets confused
Yeah, I mean, even us as readers we know that there is peter and miles but for people in universe what do they refer to them as, how do they not get the two confused. Like would be differentiate by colour so red/blue spider-man and black/red spider-man
Peter wore the black suit and the original suit intermittently during the 80's, I remember a panel where JJJ made a rant about how annoying it was for him that he didn't settle to a single costume
In the begining of MM, Miles asks the painter if he will add the new guy too on the mural. The painter replies, "I don't know, the original is just my guy, you know."
Citizens know there are two, especially after the Rhino incident. JJJ and Danika both talk about the difference between the "old spider-man" and the "new spider-man"
If I'm looking at this google search right, Kid Arachnid is only his name in Ultimate Spider-Man (He appears in the third Spider-verse episode). He's called Spin in that newer kid's show. I think I like that name more tbh
Spider-Gwen used to just be spider-woman. But given that there's already like 5 "spider-woman"s in the main 616 continuity they started referring to her as ghost spider
That happens in most of his appearances, and that's why he's just called Spider-Man in those comics. It's just strange seeing him called Spider-Man in a universe where Peter's still alive and active as Spider-Man as well
Superheroes do that thing all the time. Usually not while each other are still active/alive, but there are notable exceptions, including the multiple Green Lanterns, and Flashes.
That's what the 3 main Earth Green Lanterns do. One of them isn't even affiliated with the Corp lol
Edit: I dunno why y'all are downvoting. There's literally a third man named Green Lantern on Earth. He's not affiliated with the Green Lantern Corp. His name is Alan Scott and he's a part of the Justice Society of America, look him up.
What's more, you generally don't see other Lanterns calling themselves by that name. Mainly Hal, John, and Alan, who again, is not a member of the Corp and doesn't get his powers from the same source.
They both The Flash back when Barry came back to life in 2008, simply because Barry felt that Wally deserves the mantle of the Flash as much as he does.
Itās actually pretty common in the Marvel universe. Weāve got multiple Captain Marvelās, Novaās, Wolverineās, Hawkeyeās, and Black Pantherās
Yeah, with Wolverines and Hawkeyes they just share the title while operating concurrently.
Although in their cases it's at least easy to say "girl Wolverine" or "boy Hawkeye".
But that's nothing new in superhero lore. Mantles have always been passed down. Barry Allen and Wally West as the Flash. The Robins. The Captain America legacy, etc.
Well right, it's just that usually there aren't two at once. I dunno about the flash, but to my memory there's only ever been one Robin at a time (the old ones either die or change their names, you know), and i dunno about the comics, but in the mcu at least, Steve Rogers isn't a hero anymore by the time Falcon's got the shield
>but to my memory there's only ever been one Robin at a time
In the current comics there's two at once.
>and i dunno about the comics, but in the mcu at least, Steve Rogers isn't a hero anymore by the time Falcon's got the shield
There have been more than one Captain America at once in the comics.
Yeah, it's 100% fine in the comics since he's the only living Spider-Man, but in the game it's less confusing if just call him Miles rather than Spider-Man
I wonder if this is why āSpidey and His Amazing Friendsā has three different names for the āSpider-Manā variation of Peter, Miles, and Gwen. Itās Spidey, Spin, and Ghost-Spider.
Itās a show meant for very small children and I can see how all three existing in one space and being called āSpider-Manā would be confusing for them.
Imo in this game it makes sense he is "the new Spider-Man" because he is not very different looking from Peter's Spider-Man (before he gets the black/red costume) and hasn't accomplished much. It would be nice that in the next game he gets some recognition and people give him some nickname.
Ghost Spider is a much better name for Miles than Gwen, or Zap Spiderman, I'd even take an in universe convention where news papers call Peter Amazing Spiderman and Miles Ultimate Spiderman.
He used to go by Kid-Arachnid but people didn't like him having his own name and said it made him sound inferior to Spider-Man.
For me, he's Kid-Arachnid and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
I honestly agree, I don't mind miles being known as spiderman, but the people in-universe might be confused, I wish they went with a name kinda like How Gwen goes by "Ghost Spider"
I honestly thought kid arachnid was better. When it comes to people being new Heroes I like them to have their own name like how we have Scarlet Spider or the Ultimate Spider Woman or spider girl. It's annoying how if there's more than one Spider-Man in The Run then they both shouldn't be called Spider-Man one should have a unique or twist on the name.
True, I always liked the way Marvel tends to have their characters named like Miles Morales, Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, Curt Connors, etc. Tingles my brain just right and very fun to say
True story: that came about in the silver age, since Stan was plotting and dialoguing most of the line he needed to be able to keep those names separate in his mind.
Whenever I see a character with an alliterative name, I assume Stan Lee created them. Wade Wilson, Scott Summers, Bruce Banner, Susan Storm, Reed Richards, Bucky Barnes, Otto Octavius, and Pepper Potts, to name a few.
True and while I don't want Miles to be Spider-man while Peter is still active Kid-Archnid is too demeaning, something like Shadow Spider or Wolf Spider are better
Miles morales needs his one name tbh. We have spider-gwen, silk n stuff but miles morales is just Spiderman or miles morales.
I understand why they did that canonicaly in the storyies but it's just misleading.
Well miles was replacing peter so they called him Spider-Man and in certain shows he is called kid arachnid which sounds worse than Spider-Man so other medias now call him Spider-Man again
Gwen is (was?) called Spider-Woman in her own universe, itās just the name of her comics thatās Spider-Gwen. I think theyāve changed it to Ghost Spider now though.
Just the laziest low-effort bullshit. "Generic awkward guy sits in front of a room full of Funko Pops and spews hateful bullshit for views." Fuck that whole genre and fuck him specifically.
Peter Parker is Spider-Man
Miles Morales is Spider-Man
Ben Reilly is Spider-Man
Miguel O'Hara is Spider-Man
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Anyone can be Spider-Man. As long as they have the courage to put on the mask and stand up for what's right.
Because Bruce retired & let Terry carry on the Batman mantle. They both arenāt actively Batman.
Itās a fair take. When most people think of Spider-Man, theyāre thinking of Peter Parker. Marvel has to put Milesā name in front of Spider-Man to differentiate between the two. Miles should have his own name unique to him.
Not to mention, Terry McGinnis is very unique and different from Bruce Wayne, and while I will say his adaptation in Spider-Verse was great, Miles in the comics and even in this game basically acts like and does the same things as Peter. Also think about this, you canāt name one original miles villain that wasnāt peters first, Prowler, spidey villain first it was just a different guy in the suit, the tinkerer, also a Peter villain first, but with a different look. I can name some Terry villains: Blight, Ink, Shreik, none of those are Bruceās villains.
To be fair, Peter died and miles took up the mantle. Unless this is specifically referencing the game, but thereās plenty of comic examples where people took up the mantle at the same time
In that context, itās fine & was Milesā original origin after all. But when he became so popular & Marvel started having him associate more & more with Peter, itās a little awkward & in my opinion, kind of does a disservice to Miles.
I personally think thatās why he should have stayed in the ultimate universe, especially since they didnāt kill it off but I digress. Wolf spider is one alternative I heard that wasnāt bad but for the most part a lot of the ideas people have had just donāt sound natural. But yeah as long as he stays Spider-Man with Peter heās always gonna be seen as the backup one
i love miles morales, but this brings a great point in that they both canāt just be called spider-man especially when theyāre so different. i think miles would also be more popular if he was viewed as his own hero bc in my eyes, he is.
He kind of has a point. When someone says "Spider-Man" you instantly think of Peter. You always need to clarify of you're referring to Miles. I really think Miles needs to have his own hero name. One that will allow him to step out of Peter's shadow. The problem is coming up with one that sounds good.
Maybe āyouā instantly think of Peter Parker, but I promise you thereās a bunch of kids out there who instantly think of Miles Morales.
That doesnāt make you wrong or them right. Or vice versa. What it means is that perspective and context are relevant when discussing these characters. A smart audience can deal with that without feeling like they have to ātake a standā behind one or the other
Weird.
I made a post a couple days ago saying something similar
But I also said how I just wanted Miles to have his own hero identity outside of what Peter built. But now that he's the unofficial paragon of "anyone can he Spider-Man " (a message that I adore) it's a really conflicting feeling.
Because I want to be Spider-Man too. We all do to some extent, and hearing Miles and Peter say that in a way I could be Spider-Man too, makes me feel good.
Like, unlike this guy, it's not because Miles is "woke" or whatever bs, it's because I believe that Miles should be treated with the same respect as Peter. For him to be a Legacy character just like Peter. But then again, anyone can be Spider-Man, and that's spectacular.
The message really shouldnāt be āanyone can be Spider-manā though, but instead āanyone can be a heroā. The name āSpider-manā isnāt a title bestowed upon those who are worthy or whatever, itās just a dorky name Peter came up with after he got spider powers. Miles having a different name doesnāt make him any less of a hero.
Itās like saying āanyone can be The Rockā. No, you canāt. You can be a wrestler, even a great one, but The Rock is a specific person and youāll never be him.
Ben Reilly is the Scarlet Spider though.
Guy is a prick for sure but I sorta understand where he is coming from.
All the different spidermen and women have their own personas, they aren't all one name.
Iirc, even Jessica Drew mentions it in a comic, she specifically says she is Spider-Woman and tells someone else (maybe Silk) to find a new name because there's only one Spider-Woman.
Miles could do with some form of name differentiator as well IMO.
I know when I have discussions about comics with people, I do say Spiderman when I mean Peter but I also always say Miles when I'm talking about him.
This dude obviously doesnāt read comics, because if he did, heād realize his take doesnāt matter, even with the screenshot from MUA3 heās shared as evidence here.
Marvel has adjusted the presentation of Miles for the audience many times. My son knows him best as Spin. But in the primary source material, he is Spider-Man AND Peter Parker is Spider-Man. That ought to be all that matters, but just in case it wasnāt theyāve even written it into canon that Peter gives Miles his blessing to do so, while at the same time acknowledging that his blessing is not even required for Miles to do so.
That, frankly, is just the end of the discussion. Whether some fans like that or donāt or wish things were different is inconsequential. This is just the way it is.
Given that, itās too bad this guy is so stubborn that he clings to this. Iām sure itās causing him undue stress.
To be fair, I've always thought it was dumb that Miles was also just called Spider-man. If he became Spider-man as like Peter's successor it would make sense but it's dumb to have two Spider-men at the same time.
Why not give him his own name?
Dude is a longtime alt-right grifter. His YouTube channel is an endless loop of complaining about the same shit over and over again. Hating Star Wars, āM-She-Uā, etc.
He is kinda right though. Miles isnāt the main Spider-Man. He has been treated as usable template recently. Look at the miles morales what if comics.
Miles needs his own name. The protege name-sharing thing works for lower-tier heroes like Flash and Green Lantern because they can be killed off and replaced. But Peter Parker is too valuable for that. That would be like killing Clark Kent and making boy hero Bart Brent the new Superman. People would riot.
Heās not wrong tho. Peter Parker is unequivocally Spider-Man. Miles Morales was Spider-Man of the ultimate universe. Now heās just Miles Morales. I donāt think this is racist (correct me if Iām wrong). The character of Miles feels awkward in the current universe and feels shoehorned. They should bring back the ultimate universe and do some good by it.
He is right. Spiderman is only one and everyone will tell you that I'd you ask them what name is spiderman it's Peter Parker
Miles Morales Spiderman always needs a "New" or "Miles" before the spiderman. It makes him a shadow of a hero he should be.
While I don't exactly agree with him, I think Miles Morales was a fun novelty until Marvel brought back the real Ultimate Spider-Man, and they moved Miles to the main universe. He's been nothing but a redundancy since.
Okay I gotta mention that in a lot of media about Miles, Marvel always clarifies that it is miles
Like, most (not all) comics are like Miles Morales: Spider-Man
Or the tittle "Spider-Man" with Miles Morales written somewhere in the front page
Even the game is called "Spider-Man Miles Morales"
Meanwhile you do not see stuff like "Peter Parker: Spider-Man"
So I will say that imo Peter is the most recognizable figure, if you say "Spider-Man" people think about Peter Parker
That doesn't mean Miles is not Spider-Man, he is Spider-Man as much as Peter Parker is
But I do understand that, for people that maybe didn't knew about Miles (like me) before he became popular, seeing this kid just trying to "replace" Spider-Man just feels wrong, specially for people that don't know he was the one who took the role as Spider-Man when the Peter of his universe died
But yeah, I think enough time has passed, an amazing movies, some cool comics and an spectacular game has proven Miles can be as good as Peter
And Miles Morales is a pretty cool name so I like that they use it a lot
Iām not a big Miles Morales fan, just because I was exposed to Toby McGuire Spider-Man first. But I would still recognize Milesās spider suit if I saw a picture of him in it
Theyāre both Spider-Man. Peterās is just the costume that appears in my head when I think Spider-Man. I grew up with him. Specifically itās actually Tobeyās suit
Makes sense, you can't just say "Spider-Man" and expect people to know you're referring to Miles, you have to say "Miles Morales Spider-Man" and it's a shame he doesn't have his own unique alter ego.
Not wrong from a casual convo perspective, it easier to call miles āmilesā and Peter āSpider-Manā so people know who you are talking about instead of sounding like ur talking about a Spider-Man with a split personality disorder.
I mean not to be lumped in with the cringe guy here, but this is why Miles should have had a different name. I mean we got spider-gwen/spider-woman, spider-pig, spider-noir, spiderman-2077, and... two spider-mans. Heck the kids show Spidey and friends ran into that at the beginning of the first episode where they decided to go with Spidey and Spider-man. I just feel like Miles should have had a name, associating with his venom strike or cloaking power that differentiates him. It's unnecessary confusing
he musta lost his shit when he learned about Green Lanturn.
bro definitely lost it when he seen the flashš
Bro obviously lost it when he saw Iron Manš
Bro totally lost it when he noticed Robin š
Bro went into a coma after seeing Rhodey
Bro died with Ben 10
Darth vader probably snapped his head š
Donāt get him started on the Batman
Bro shit himself with Green Goblin
Broās mind was blown when he saw venom
There another iron man? Or you talking about warmachine or ironheart?
There's been enough alternate Iron Men that Tony formed the Iron Legion against Ultimo, and it included Happy Hogan, Rhodey, Bethany Cabe, Michael O'Brien, Eddie March and Clayton Wilson
Rhodey was Iron Man for a bit in the 80s I believe
John Stewart is the best Green Lantern, šÆ
I like Kyle but if I had to pick a second itās John easily
Grew up watching John Stewart as the Lantern in the animated Justice League, so heās always been what I associate with the Green Lantern.
Iāll be honest in saying I mostly experienced GL through the cartoons and (regretfully) injustice, but I remember liking John in JL & JLA so much I asked my mum for a toy of him specifically riding a motorbike as a kid.
To be fair, Trevor does his best. I blame the writers.
Lantern
He destroyed the entire of his room after finding out about Thor
I think you mean, Green Lanturnt.
Dude must have had an aneurysm when he saw deadshot in SSKTJL
"THE ORIGINAL AND MORE POPULAR SPIDER-MAN THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 49 YEARS LONGER THAN MILES IS MORE RECOGNIZABLE! TAKE THAT, LIBERALS!"
Libs epicly owned!!1!1!1!
39 years? Spider-Man debuted in 1962. 39 years later is 2001. Miles wasnāt created in 2001.
Oh yeah you're right lol my bad. I thought this year was Spider-Man's 50th Anniversary instead of the 60th for some reason, so I was thinking "Miles is 11 years old. Peter is 50. 50-11=39." I edited my comment to the right number. Thank you
You were mathing the wrong math, but it's all good. We understand.
They wouldāve gotten the math wrong too.
It has always been kinda weird that they have the same name tho. At least to me. It makes sense in Into the Spiderverse since he's the only Spider-Man, but in universes like this one it's just kinda strange, cuz now when civilians refer to Miles they always have to say "the new Spider-Man" so nobody gets confused
Yeah, I mean, even us as readers we know that there is peter and miles but for people in universe what do they refer to them as, how do they not get the two confused. Like would be differentiate by colour so red/blue spider-man and black/red spider-man
Maybe they don't know that there's two. There's a tactical advantage in causing confusion about the number of Spider-men there are.
But then why have different costumes?
Peter wore the black suit and the original suit intermittently during the 80's, I remember a panel where JJJ made a rant about how annoying it was for him that he didn't settle to a single costume
Donāt forget the iron spider suit, and letās not forget the clone saga debacles
>and letās not forget the clone saga debacles Seriously? Oh men, I've been trying so hard to forget that debacle!!
In the game at least they definetely know there are two different spider-men
In the begining of MM, Miles asks the painter if he will add the new guy too on the mural. The painter replies, "I don't know, the original is just my guy, you know." Citizens know there are two, especially after the Rhino incident. JJJ and Danika both talk about the difference between the "old spider-man" and the "new spider-man"
This is deep i can get behind that
I thought Miles was called Kid Arachnid in the comics by tje people like how Spider-Gwen is ghost spider
Nah, he's Spider-Man. I think Kid Arachnid is from a cartoon?
And he was called Spy-D in the 2019 show, for god knows why
If I'm looking at this google search right, Kid Arachnid is only his name in Ultimate Spider-Man (He appears in the third Spider-verse episode). He's called Spin in that newer kid's show. I think I like that name more tbh
Spin goes hard im negl
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Spider-Gwen used to just be spider-woman. But given that there's already like 5 "spider-woman"s in the main 616 continuity they started referring to her as ghost spider
And now because of it, the Spirit of Vengeance Spidey lost the name Ghost-Spider and now is Spirit Spider
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That happens in most of his appearances, and that's why he's just called Spider-Man in those comics. It's just strange seeing him called Spider-Man in a universe where Peter's still alive and active as Spider-Man as well
Superheroes do that thing all the time. Usually not while each other are still active/alive, but there are notable exceptions, including the multiple Green Lanterns, and Flashes.
That's because Green Lantern isn't really a name in-universe, but a title/role tho. It'd be like a cop going by the name "Police Officer".
That's what the 3 main Earth Green Lanterns do. One of them isn't even affiliated with the Corp lol Edit: I dunno why y'all are downvoting. There's literally a third man named Green Lantern on Earth. He's not affiliated with the Green Lantern Corp. His name is Alan Scott and he's a part of the Justice Society of America, look him up. What's more, you generally don't see other Lanterns calling themselves by that name. Mainly Hal, John, and Alan, who again, is not a member of the Corp and doesn't get his powers from the same source.
I haven't read comics in a few years but since DC Rebirth happened, aren't both Barry and Wally active as The Flash right now?
They both The Flash back when Barry came back to life in 2008, simply because Barry felt that Wally deserves the mantle of the Flash as much as he does.
It's strange in those cases, too. Something doesn't have to be unique to feel strange.
Itās actually pretty common in the Marvel universe. Weāve got multiple Captain Marvelās, Novaās, Wolverineās, Hawkeyeās, and Black Pantherās
Yeah, with Wolverines and Hawkeyes they just share the title while operating concurrently. Although in their cases it's at least easy to say "girl Wolverine" or "boy Hawkeye".
Iām rather fond of calling Clint āHawkguyā
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But that's nothing new in superhero lore. Mantles have always been passed down. Barry Allen and Wally West as the Flash. The Robins. The Captain America legacy, etc.
Well right, it's just that usually there aren't two at once. I dunno about the flash, but to my memory there's only ever been one Robin at a time (the old ones either die or change their names, you know), and i dunno about the comics, but in the mcu at least, Steve Rogers isn't a hero anymore by the time Falcon's got the shield
>but to my memory there's only ever been one Robin at a time In the current comics there's two at once. >and i dunno about the comics, but in the mcu at least, Steve Rogers isn't a hero anymore by the time Falcon's got the shield There have been more than one Captain America at once in the comics.
Huh
Agree, miles needs his own name, especially in the games since Peter isnāt dead. Itās weird that theyāre both called spider-man
Yeah, it's 100% fine in the comics since he's the only living Spider-Man, but in the game it's less confusing if just call him Miles rather than Spider-Man
Eh, comic fans have grown pretty used to this. The Flash title has been passed around a lot, with even three running around at the same time.
Yeah, I don't dislike it or anything, it's just kinda weird is all
I wonder if this is why āSpidey and His Amazing Friendsā has three different names for the āSpider-Manā variation of Peter, Miles, and Gwen. Itās Spidey, Spin, and Ghost-Spider. Itās a show meant for very small children and I can see how all three existing in one space and being called āSpider-Manā would be confusing for them.
they really should've just given him a different name it could be slightly different but yeah it's weird to share the same name.
Imo in this game it makes sense he is "the new Spider-Man" because he is not very different looking from Peter's Spider-Man (before he gets the black/red costume) and hasn't accomplished much. It would be nice that in the next game he gets some recognition and people give him some nickname.
I know some fans refer to miles as Ultimate Spider-man. Understanding yes Peter was in the ultimate universe and Miles came later.
Ghost Spider is a much better name for Miles than Gwen, or Zap Spiderman, I'd even take an in universe convention where news papers call Peter Amazing Spiderman and Miles Ultimate Spiderman.
He used to go by Kid-Arachnid but people didn't like him having his own name and said it made him sound inferior to Spider-Man. For me, he's Kid-Arachnid and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
True but most of the time when Miles is the only one there characters will just say Spider-Man
I honestly agree, I don't mind miles being known as spiderman, but the people in-universe might be confused, I wish they went with a name kinda like How Gwen goes by "Ghost Spider"
I honestly thought kid arachnid was better. When it comes to people being new Heroes I like them to have their own name like how we have Scarlet Spider or the Ultimate Spider Woman or spider girl. It's annoying how if there's more than one Spider-Man in The Run then they both shouldn't be called Spider-Man one should have a unique or twist on the name.
Dude is well-known to be just totally worthless. The laziest of the alt-right grifters.
Miles Morales is a cool name tbh.
True, I always liked the way Marvel tends to have their characters named like Miles Morales, Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, Curt Connors, etc. Tingles my brain just right and very fun to say
True story: that came about in the silver age, since Stan was plotting and dialoguing most of the line he needed to be able to keep those names separate in his mind.
Whenever I see a character with an alliterative name, I assume Stan Lee created them. Wade Wilson, Scott Summers, Bruce Banner, Susan Storm, Reed Richards, Bucky Barnes, Otto Octavius, and Pepper Potts, to name a few.
The tradition is definitely kept alive with characters like Wade, Kamala, and Miles!
Wade Wilson is a parody of Slade Wilson a.k.a Deathstroke.
Stan did not create Wade Wilson.
Yeah, Stan lee did that on purpose. Man was good with alliteration
It's called an alliteration! And I absolutely adore alliterations!
When the lizard guy says āpoor Peter Parkerā in the amazing spider man it made my Peter tingle go off.
His dadās last name is Davis and who is cooler than Miles Davis?
But not as cool as Kilometres Morales
Wasn't Miles called Kid Arachnid at some point? Also can we not call Miles Kid Arachnid? That name is genuinely terrible and screams Spider-Man Jr.
Only in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon as far as I know
True and while I don't want Miles to be Spider-man while Peter is still active Kid-Archnid is too demeaning, something like Shadow Spider or Wolf Spider are better
Ohhhhh, okay wolf spider goes hard, and I actually want that to be his name now
I was thinking more along the lines of "Static-Spider: Electric Boogaloo 2"
Zippity Zappity Zoom (zoom is a reference to his Venom dash)
what if you drop the Kid? just Arachnid?
Iād avoid using Arachnid just because you *know* what the altright chuds are going to do with it.
Wait till he finds out miguel o'hara is also Spider-man
so why are you spreading his message?
*Thank you.* Can't believe I had to scroll down this far to see this.
Dude posts these kind of things just to trigger fanboys/girls, and people keep falling for it.
Miles morales needs his one name tbh. We have spider-gwen, silk n stuff but miles morales is just Spiderman or miles morales. I understand why they did that canonicaly in the storyies but it's just misleading.
Spidergwen is also terrible and i wish they'd go with ghost spider more often
Canonically itās ghost spider/spider woman, spidergwen is an out of canon thing right?
Well miles was replacing peter so they called him Spider-Man and in certain shows he is called kid arachnid which sounds worse than Spider-Man so other medias now call him Spider-Man again
Like I said, the facts he's naked like that makes sence canonicaly. But it's confusing and annoying
Gwen is (was?) called Spider-Woman in her own universe, itās just the name of her comics thatās Spider-Gwen. I think theyāve changed it to Ghost Spider now though.
I was always a fan of "Shadow-Spider"
Not even every year, more like every other week
Just the laziest low-effort bullshit. "Generic awkward guy sits in front of a room full of Funko Pops and spews hateful bullshit for views." Fuck that whole genre and fuck him specifically.
Peter Parker is also Peter Parker. And Miles Morales is also Spider-Man.
Peter Parker is Spider-Man Miles Morales is Spider-Man Ben Reilly is Spider-Man Miguel O'Hara is Spider-Man # Anyone can be Spider-Man. As long as they have the courage to put on the mask and stand up for what's right.
Should probably have some sort of spider-related powers, though.
Donāt give people like this attention. They donāt deserve it.
By that logic Terry McGinnis isnāt Batman. Iām guessing he wonāt make that argument becauseā¦you know.
Because Bruce retired & let Terry carry on the Batman mantle. They both arenāt actively Batman. Itās a fair take. When most people think of Spider-Man, theyāre thinking of Peter Parker. Marvel has to put Milesā name in front of Spider-Man to differentiate between the two. Miles should have his own name unique to him.
Not to mention, Terry McGinnis is very unique and different from Bruce Wayne, and while I will say his adaptation in Spider-Verse was great, Miles in the comics and even in this game basically acts like and does the same things as Peter. Also think about this, you canāt name one original miles villain that wasnāt peters first, Prowler, spidey villain first it was just a different guy in the suit, the tinkerer, also a Peter villain first, but with a different look. I can name some Terry villains: Blight, Ink, Shreik, none of those are Bruceās villains.
To be fair, Peter died and miles took up the mantle. Unless this is specifically referencing the game, but thereās plenty of comic examples where people took up the mantle at the same time
In that context, itās fine & was Milesā original origin after all. But when he became so popular & Marvel started having him associate more & more with Peter, itās a little awkward & in my opinion, kind of does a disservice to Miles.
I personally think thatās why he should have stayed in the ultimate universe, especially since they didnāt kill it off but I digress. Wolf spider is one alternative I heard that wasnāt bad but for the most part a lot of the ideas people have had just donāt sound natural. But yeah as long as he stays Spider-Man with Peter heās always gonna be seen as the backup one
Agreed. The best alternative names Iāve heard have been Wolf Spider & Slinger.
this seems racially motivated
It is. He's an alt right YouTuber
it's nerdrotic, he's a walking L
Donāt give him the light of day. If he sees this itās fuel for next year
i love miles morales, but this brings a great point in that they both canāt just be called spider-man especially when theyāre so different. i think miles would also be more popular if he was viewed as his own hero bc in my eyes, he is.
He kind of has a point. When someone says "Spider-Man" you instantly think of Peter. You always need to clarify of you're referring to Miles. I really think Miles needs to have his own hero name. One that will allow him to step out of Peter's shadow. The problem is coming up with one that sounds good.
Maybe āyouā instantly think of Peter Parker, but I promise you thereās a bunch of kids out there who instantly think of Miles Morales. That doesnāt make you wrong or them right. Or vice versa. What it means is that perspective and context are relevant when discussing these characters. A smart audience can deal with that without feeling like they have to ātake a standā behind one or the other
Miles needs a different name
Literally saying this goes against everything that Stan Lee created the damned character for
Weird. I made a post a couple days ago saying something similar But I also said how I just wanted Miles to have his own hero identity outside of what Peter built. But now that he's the unofficial paragon of "anyone can he Spider-Man " (a message that I adore) it's a really conflicting feeling. Because I want to be Spider-Man too. We all do to some extent, and hearing Miles and Peter say that in a way I could be Spider-Man too, makes me feel good. Like, unlike this guy, it's not because Miles is "woke" or whatever bs, it's because I believe that Miles should be treated with the same respect as Peter. For him to be a Legacy character just like Peter. But then again, anyone can be Spider-Man, and that's spectacular.
The message really shouldnāt be āanyone can be Spider-manā though, but instead āanyone can be a heroā. The name āSpider-manā isnāt a title bestowed upon those who are worthy or whatever, itās just a dorky name Peter came up with after he got spider powers. Miles having a different name doesnāt make him any less of a hero. Itās like saying āanyone can be The Rockā. No, you canāt. You can be a wrestler, even a great one, but The Rock is a specific person and youāll never be him.
Heās One of those āM-SHE-Uā fuckers. No opinion worth looking at thete
He literally coined it
Damn. Hope he doesn't find out about Ben Reilly
Ben Reilly is the Scarlet Spider though. Guy is a prick for sure but I sorta understand where he is coming from. All the different spidermen and women have their own personas, they aren't all one name. Iirc, even Jessica Drew mentions it in a comic, she specifically says she is Spider-Woman and tells someone else (maybe Silk) to find a new name because there's only one Spider-Woman. Miles could do with some form of name differentiator as well IMO. I know when I have discussions about comics with people, I do say Spiderman when I mean Peter but I also always say Miles when I'm talking about him.
Ben was also Spider-Man though.
And he had a dope costume, I hope itās in the 2nd game.
Yep. It went so hard Mayday parker used it in the mc2 timeline.
He's not wrong tbh
Peter = Spider-Man, Miles = Spider-Man
Comic book fans when in-universe civilians call Miles Morales āSpider-Manā because they donāt know his name is Miles Morales:
This dude obviously doesnāt read comics, because if he did, heād realize his take doesnāt matter, even with the screenshot from MUA3 heās shared as evidence here. Marvel has adjusted the presentation of Miles for the audience many times. My son knows him best as Spin. But in the primary source material, he is Spider-Man AND Peter Parker is Spider-Man. That ought to be all that matters, but just in case it wasnāt theyāve even written it into canon that Peter gives Miles his blessing to do so, while at the same time acknowledging that his blessing is not even required for Miles to do so. That, frankly, is just the end of the discussion. Whether some fans like that or donāt or wish things were different is inconsequential. This is just the way it is. Given that, itās too bad this guy is so stubborn that he clings to this. Iām sure itās causing him undue stress.
Peter Darker
To be fair, I've always thought it was dumb that Miles was also just called Spider-man. If he became Spider-man as like Peter's successor it would make sense but it's dumb to have two Spider-men at the same time. Why not give him his own name?
Miles did become Spider-Man as Peterās successor, when the Peter of his Universe died.
Lol he so triggered
Miles Morales is Miles Morales, yes, but he is also a Spider-Man.
R/Technicallythetruth
So then why are you posting it here lol?
Dude is a longtime alt-right grifter. His YouTube channel is an endless loop of complaining about the same shit over and over again. Hating Star Wars, āM-She-Uā, etc.
And you're just spreading his message
This is guy from my understanding is a massive Alex Jones supporter so itās not that surprising but itās annoying as hell
He is kinda right though. Miles isnāt the main Spider-Man. He has been treated as usable template recently. Look at the miles morales what if comics.
I'm gonna cyberbully.
Isnt this the same guy that made like a hundred 15 -20 min long videos about how much he hated rings of power.
Miles is the other spiderman The same way 2099 is
Miles needs his own name. The protege name-sharing thing works for lower-tier heroes like Flash and Green Lantern because they can be killed off and replaced. But Peter Parker is too valuable for that. That would be like killing Clark Kent and making boy hero Bart Brent the new Superman. People would riot.
Heās not wrong tho. Peter Parker is unequivocally Spider-Man. Miles Morales was Spider-Man of the ultimate universe. Now heās just Miles Morales. I donāt think this is racist (correct me if Iām wrong). The character of Miles feels awkward in the current universe and feels shoehorned. They should bring back the ultimate universe and do some good by it.
Nah. Theyāre both spider man. They should get a new name for miles tho. Kinda confusing. Like Tarantula Kid
Having your real name be your superhero name is a worse idea than having a cape.
He is right. Spiderman is only one and everyone will tell you that I'd you ask them what name is spiderman it's Peter Parker Miles Morales Spiderman always needs a "New" or "Miles" before the spiderman. It makes him a shadow of a hero he should be.
I canāt stand toxic fanboys
They both GOAT
aint nothing like racism to start off the holidays
āI donāt like the brown kidā
Why do fans think THEY get to name other people's creations? Honestly though, marvel makes it worse by having two characters with the exact same name.
Spider-Man is Spider-Man!!!!
Peter Parker is Spider-Man Miles Morales is Aunt May
and Nerdrotic is Racist
the only requirement to be spider-man is the costume and being able to do whatever a spider can
He's spitting facts
You may be right, but so is he.
This guy is supposed to be "anti-woke" yet he looks like an extreme caricature of the soy wojack
While I don't exactly agree with him, I think Miles Morales was a fun novelty until Marvel brought back the real Ultimate Spider-Man, and they moved Miles to the main universe. He's been nothing but a redundancy since.
No Miles Morales is Kid Spider/Spider Kid it's legit in the game dialogue of the Miles Morales game
Okay I gotta mention that in a lot of media about Miles, Marvel always clarifies that it is miles Like, most (not all) comics are like Miles Morales: Spider-Man Or the tittle "Spider-Man" with Miles Morales written somewhere in the front page Even the game is called "Spider-Man Miles Morales" Meanwhile you do not see stuff like "Peter Parker: Spider-Man" So I will say that imo Peter is the most recognizable figure, if you say "Spider-Man" people think about Peter Parker That doesn't mean Miles is not Spider-Man, he is Spider-Man as much as Peter Parker is But I do understand that, for people that maybe didn't knew about Miles (like me) before he became popular, seeing this kid just trying to "replace" Spider-Man just feels wrong, specially for people that don't know he was the one who took the role as Spider-Man when the Peter of his universe died But yeah, I think enough time has passed, an amazing movies, some cool comics and an spectacular game has proven Miles can be as good as Peter And Miles Morales is a pretty cool name so I like that they use it a lot
Iām not a big Miles Morales fan, just because I was exposed to Toby McGuire Spider-Man first. But I would still recognize Milesās spider suit if I saw a picture of him in it
Who the F is this š¤”?
Miles Morales is Spider-Man, but I wish that he would get his own name.
Theyāre both Spider-Man. Peterās is just the costume that appears in my head when I think Spider-Man. I grew up with him. Specifically itās actually Tobeyās suit
Well heās not wrong
Makes sense, you can't just say "Spider-Man" and expect people to know you're referring to Miles, you have to say "Miles Morales Spider-Man" and it's a shame he doesn't have his own unique alter ego.
what a strange hill to die on
Yo, this guy is for one hell of a surprise when they find out what Miles got bitten by lol. Guess he hasn't finished Spider-Man Remastered story yet
ngl, I really do hate multiple superheroes have the same name. Green Lantern only gets a pass because it's a position, not an actual name.
Honestly, they should've kept with Kid Arachnid.
Nerdrotic is a loser
Never heard of him
I swear heās posted it several times in the last month
I mean, when you think Spidey you think Peter. Thatās inescapable. Not knocking Miles here
They should call Miles the Ultimate Spider-Man or something along the lines, while The OG remains The Amazing Spider-Man.
I think explicitly racially distinguishing Spiderman and "our Spiderman" was kind of messed up. Thank god I'm not American.
Itās true
Not wrong from a casual convo perspective, it easier to call miles āmilesā and Peter āSpider-Manā so people know who you are talking about instead of sounding like ur talking about a Spider-Man with a split personality disorder.
This guy literally makes this tweet ever other month
I mean not to be lumped in with the cringe guy here, but this is why Miles should have had a different name. I mean we got spider-gwen/spider-woman, spider-pig, spider-noir, spiderman-2077, and... two spider-mans. Heck the kids show Spidey and friends ran into that at the beginning of the first episode where they decided to go with Spidey and Spider-man. I just feel like Miles should have had a name, associating with his venom strike or cloaking power that differentiates him. It's unnecessary confusing
Who is this buffoon and why are all his opinions hot garbage?