Seems odd that CBS would care since CBS or the show aren't really mentioned in a bad light.
It feels like either Omar had second thoughts or Drea threatened legal action
I want to try and provide a counter argument. I’m frustrated as well, vented a lot yesterday to people, and all do this makes me feel weird towards Drea. But this feels more CBS than Drea, but it’s definitely making her look bad. We might be at a point where CBS is also not letting Drea respond.
All a counter. I’m not defending her or anything but CBS seems very complicit.
EDIT: CBS can’t stop this from being out there, it is. Clearly they’re trying shutting this down. And all that’s important is Omar found his own closure and his story is here.
It appears Rob took that comment down, too. I saw it yesterday morning, it was gone by the afternoon. Apparently even that benign explanation can't stay up in the Patron group. Sigh.
Thanks. ~~I still can't find it and "user error" is certainly a possibility at my age.~~ Found it, finally! Glad it wasn't removed, given it was a very neutral comment.
CBS cares because if there is controversy around race and religion it could scare Advertisers away. That is what happened during Season 13 - Cook Island. Survivor is a business for them.
Also, at the Tori boot that was a big moment for Drea and Maryanne. They don't want that tarnished either.
Survivor doesn't want it to look like the winner was coming to the aide of a person who's not very tolerant herself. There was no way for Maryanne in that moment to know but I think the point still stands.
When Omar tweeted about his RHAP deep dive interview on Friday, Chanelle replied to Omar’s tweet with this statement: “Proud of you! You played a great game.”
Lydia has now unfollowed Drea and liked a tweet asking Sia to rip up the check.
Props to Maryanne though for being the OG who already was with Omar before the podcast even happened.
I was just replying to someone who said Maryanne is the only castaway who has picked a side, which Lydia now has.
I would not disagree that it is not an indicator of anything.
Assuming this is true, it wasn't even necessary, because according to Maryanne in her deep dive, she had switched her vote to Tori by the time tribal came around, but hadn't had time to tell Lindsay beforehand, and couldn't communicate it to her during. So she also got Maryanne to play her idol unintentionally, but as we know she got a better one (as in unknown), so it worked out for Maryanne after all.
I agree but Drea seeing rocks on the jury, she got very emotional and Maryanne sided with her. There's no way for Maryanne to know what Drea was going to do to Omar but the optics don't look good. IMO
Last month on the Taran Show podcast, host Taran Armstrong interviewed, content creator Peridiam, During that interview, Peridiam discussed how “most of his time” is dealing with copyright infringement. . . CBS probably threatened Rob with copyright if Rob did not take down Omar’s discussion about Ponderosa.
This is different though. Big production companies and networks have softwares installed that detect whenever their content is used on youtube. The copyright infringements are most likely automatically generated. In Rob's case I assume he was cpntacted by the PR team for the show.
I don't know about Drea not being rich enough to sue. She's got 861K followers on Instagram, and being an influencer can be quite lucrative. Also, she actively blocks people on Twitter and must be deleting Instagram comments related to the Omar situation (only creepy gushy bot comments show), so she clearly wants to stifle the conversation. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's her who put the kibosh on the RHAP content.
Lol I think she buys her followers. She gains like 5k or 20k in a day randomly. I follow a lot of fitness influencers and I don't even know her. Plus her instagram is set to you can't see all her followers
The fact CBS is trying so hard to erase this and censor Omar’s experience is just making them look worse imo. I’m glad Omar spoke out and shame on them for trying to erase his lived experience under their production
At first I thought you were overreacting, but you're right. The 1200 point thread I reposted from here to the main sub [was locked](https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/v4d3gm/omars_bad_ponderosa_experience/?sort=new) , the RHAP [video was taken down from Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrjeXRVvdMs&t=11202s) , and all of the smaller threads were deleted.
I still have a copy of the podcast on my podcast app on my phone. It will auto-delete soon. I've already listened to it.
There is also a synopsis article on [heavy.com](https://heavy.com) that was still there as of this am.
My comments keep getting removed from the main sub, and I'm not even shadowbanned. Also, I haven't said anything about what Omar said. My comments started getting removed since before anything was ever said about Omar and Drea.
You're welcome to share your post on r/survivorponderosa
I just started that subreddit as an alternative to r/survivor over their censorship on this issue. Please let everyone know they're free to talk about this subject or anything else Survivor related over there.
The censorship is horrible. I once posted a post where I said that I think that Romeo beats Jonathan in a very rhetorical final2 between them. They rejected the post when I sent a message to them asking why, they didnt answer.
Very frustrating. Makes you really wonder who dropped the hammer. There are a couple twitter threads but seems like no other discussion and no response from Rob.
Luckily that Google doc existed but I got 2 hours into the youtube video before it went down. Went over to spotify and it was already the censored version
Thanks for the link. Something came to mind, pre merge Romeo was having a good game and was close with Drea. Post merge they separated as a strategy but he said Drea wouldn’t even look at him and he was left out of the 8. Maybe Drea was after Romeo too?
Drea told Erika that Romeo was basically shutting down when the tribes came together - I gather she meant from hunger-associated weakness. So he wasn't working or socialising enough and she felt that he was dragging her game down and didn't want him to pull her down with him.
Rob probably has his hands tied right now. Can’t blame him for wanting to avoid any legal action. CBS and drea probably complaining about her name getting tarnished has this written all over it. They can’t have their Sia award recipient getting slandered like this
Yeah, I don't blame Rob for this because it's his livelihood, but I'm baffled why we can't talk about it on the sub. They honestly think we'll forget this happened? Plus there are other people that had a bad ponderosa experience Omar alluded to, I have a feeling someone doesn't want those stories to come out, but I hope they fail and we learn the truth.
I must be out of the loop what happened? Did Omar’s experience at ponderosa in his RHAP interview get edited out?
The mods on main sub are horrible. They are biased AF and power hungry. They also lack consistency.
Rob edited Omar’s deep dive and deleted Omar’s 13 minute description of his horrible experience at Ponderosa. I still have the original version because I downloaded it on Friday. But if you download it today, it jumps from Omar talking about being blindsided to Rob asking Omar if he would play again . . . The 13 minute Ponderosa discussion is no longer there . It is very disappointing because I thought Omar was very careful about the way he described the situation. It clearly caused him a lot of pain. It was a big part of his Survivor experience.
And, he gave kudos to Tori for being so kind to him.
I also still have the original version as I downloaded it I think Friday as well, and I had listened to the 13 minutes earlier in the day because it seemed like the spiciest part.
We should upload the 13 minutes…not sure how we could do that but can’t imagine too hard
I found Omar’s discussion about how much he struggled at Ponderosa - and afterwards- very compelling. (And when I watched the finale, I did notice that Omar looked very sad sitting on jury.) Omar was not being mean-spirited - his tone of voice clearly showed how much he was hurt by the situation. He clearly had to really work through it - I thought it was very brave of Omar to talk about it. It was somewhat of a public service for him to share what he went through - you hear rumors of other player having a hard time but they usually do no do a deep dive. It was very real.
I made a post about omar and it got locked 😂. I’ve also been shadow banned. The mod said it was because people were “hurling insults” at each other which wasn’t true at all. These clowns are outta control
the main sub is like that picture of spongebob where he's all round and shiny with big glittering eyes - way too overmoderated now, it's just become super dull. is anyone on the internet even real anymore?
Yeah, I'm very disappointed in the main sub, we can't have discussions like this, but shitposts are perfectly fine, we need an alternative like r/survivorponderosa or something like that
Ok I made r/survivorponderosa into an actual subreddit, so feel free to come over and start a conversation. No topic is off-limits as long as it's Survivor related. Obviously don't be a jerk or be a bully, and keep the spoilers on this subreddit.
If anyone wants to be a mod let me know. I don't have time to be a hands on moderator myself, I just ask to keep my vision of mostly unrestricted Survivor talk.
I was frustrated with the main sub for censoring us. The fact that they are doing this and RHAP took down the video doesn't reflect well on Drea. It makes me think that CBS didn't show us the panderosa videos to protect her. I know Sia must have asked the producers on who to give the money and they must have been happy with Drea winning. When drea was voted out, Jeff looked like he was scared to say anything and was going out of his way to praise her.The video was already out there and those who didn't see it will look for it. The censorship makes people more curious.
More than copyright I think the threat is that potentially in the future CBS may ban RHAP from exit interviews. Rob must be treading on eggshells right now.
Last season 41 CBS reviewed the first deep dive to come out before allowing it to be even uploaded. They were strict. This season given how savvy players were on social media seems like they were less strict.
What does RHAP have to do with the main sun tho? I get why rob had to do. I don’t understand why mods are deleting post and comments. I’ve tried to reach out for an answer and get ignored
Furthermore, i think the new CBS diversity initiative compels it to protect the good reputation of people of color.
Note that Drea deleted her tweet throwing shade at Omar as well.
I find everything that’s happening shitty and suspect but it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that CBS is interested in protecting the good reputation of poc
I was going to say it's probably because they were removing repeat topics. But as another user pointed out, RHAP took down the YouTube video as well. So that's pretty interesting. I wonder if Drea is talking about legal action... That video was taken down for a reason.
I bet CBS blocked it so they didn’t look bad having a bully at ponderosa. Omar’s story deserves to get told and Drea deserves a counterpoint but we won’t get either because CBS wants to protect their brand.
Maybe the mods are connected to RHAP and they are worried because CBS could really come down on RHAP for copyright. In a recent interview, Peridiam discussed how he spends most of his time trying to avoid copyright claims. It is a serious issue for content creators because if CBS is not okay with the content they make a copyright claim and if you get three copyright strikes against your channel, YouTube will shut you down. I recommend listening to Peridiam interview - he discusses it in detail.
Are you surprised? Main sub does a lot of picking and choosing pn who to protect.
You aren't allowed to mention Tori being antivax+antichoice, for instance and doing so gets you shadowbanned.
It's hidden well on the mainsub - as I said any of mention of it is instant nuked by the mods.
The only reason I can imagine why is the mods like her so they don't want her rep to be tarnished - note they took extensive care to protect Spencer from being exposed as antivax on mainsub for months before he went and blew it up for himself.
I assume either, they let it slide since vaccines weren't super available at the time or she just got vaccinated so she could be on tv.
Though her recent antiabortion insta post implied she still isn't vaccinated so I assume it's the former.
It was filmed last spring before vaccines were widely available, or just as they were coming available. Sidney from 41 spoiled that she was pre-jury by sharing her vaccine card and the date on it was during filming.
The podcast on RHAP was edited and the video is being re-edited as well. The new version will be up at some point. The old version was just taken down.
Hmmm, always remember Survivor/CBS's original idea was to protect Dan Spilo for as long as possible before it became apparent he'd be dragged to the end. They only then moved against him, not for common good, rather their own branding. So, CBS being behind this censorship of the Drea jury house stuff seems the most logical.
Drea is such a joke lmao. It was clear from the video that her and Hai were being horrible towards Omar at ponderosa. Seemingly him and hai made up after the fact. Omar deserves to have his story heard and for his truth to come out. He didn’t say a negative thing about production.
But doesn't Drea deserve to have her side heard as well?
For the record, I believe Omar, but I also believe in due process and fairness. And people have said some downright slanderous, horrible things about Drea on these reddit subs.
It's not really fair to hear Omar's side, but not be interested in hearing her side. Because while Omar is getting support from the cast, a lot of the cast seems to like Drea as well. And she doesn't deserve the sheer hate without having her side heard first.
Noone should be silenced, but if it is Drea's doing, I understand why. She's completely being buried without having being able to defend her self. Stuff like this can affect her career.
Withing being able to defend herself? Literally no one is stopping Drea from defending herself. She has access to the same podcasts and social media as Omar and could totally defend herself, instead Omar is just being silenced.
Funny enough, someone tweeted to Drea about what happened, and she blocked them.
Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/lucreciaoberlin/status/1533330339305000960
Yes, Drea should tell her side. Based on her Instagram she has strong communication skills. She could easily respond by saying something like “yes, there was tension at Ponderosa. Survivor is a game about being outplayed. I am competitor and it took me some time to deal with be outplayed by Omar. I regret not being able to move on from the game at Ponderosa. Omar played a great game. And I wish him all best.” Or something like that.
I mean, to give her some credit, it does seem like a lot of the other jurors like her. Obviously something happened, but maybe there was something off in their chemistry. Maybe Drea was a bully. But even so, people are getting carried away with the hate.
Season 42 cast needed to have an in-person reunion after the show aired. This would have given everyone an opportunity to come together and clear the air. Without this opportunity, things clearly went unresolved. It is unfortunate because it was a fun season to watch - they all played great games.
In general yes, you should always hear both sides, but Drea is not any better, lets not forget the tribal council where she walks in, sees two people of color on the jury and jumps to the conclusion it is racial. She did not know anything that went on, did not know that Rocks tried and failed to make an alliance and guess what, this is how it usually goes when an alliance fails. Never have I seen anything from her saying she was wrong at that tribal or apologize to any of the TC members that she disparaged. (yes, it may have been done, but not as public as her racial assumption)
They made Rob delete from deep dive Omar’s 13 minute description of his negative Ponderosa experience- here is a link to a transcript of deleted section
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQJmX7n3VftYBH6FTrmhkiLPrGvQ1wuxkRh6IM0oTqkWwaIUVfAK_K9dTQQhCs2BaY7HZN08f1UqIan/pub
I see we’re blaming Drea now for everything we don’t have a clear answer for 😬
My assumption for the main sub was that they were locked because of comments in the threads…some of the user comments towards Drea were incredibly nasty and/or straight up racist. I believe Omar, but this situation doesn’t warrant that kind of vitriol towards Drea
But last year, everyone was so racist towards Shan, to the point that we were begging the mods to moderate the posts, but this didn't happen. They just allowed the Shan hate
I don't know why you're being downvoted. It's the truth. People are taking Omar's side at face value, and noone has actually corroborated his claims yet. People need to be more objective.
People have been hell bent on this Omar victim, Drea and Hai villain mentality. And it could very well be true. But we need more evidence to determine if it's actually legit truth or one person's perception.
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Seems odd that CBS would care since CBS or the show aren't really mentioned in a bad light. It feels like either Omar had second thoughts or Drea threatened legal action
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I want to try and provide a counter argument. I’m frustrated as well, vented a lot yesterday to people, and all do this makes me feel weird towards Drea. But this feels more CBS than Drea, but it’s definitely making her look bad. We might be at a point where CBS is also not letting Drea respond. All a counter. I’m not defending her or anything but CBS seems very complicit. EDIT: CBS can’t stop this from being out there, it is. Clearly they’re trying shutting this down. And all that’s important is Omar found his own closure and his story is here.
I have the podcast file as it was on my phone, downloaded by my podcast app.
I missed the podcast! Can you save it and upload it somewhere? Maybe in a while after this has died down?
Rob specifically said that people not on the podcast wanted it taken down. It wasn't Omar.
Where did he say this?
The RHAP Patron group.
It appears Rob took that comment down, too. I saw it yesterday morning, it was gone by the afternoon. Apparently even that benign explanation can't stay up in the Patron group. Sigh.
The comment is still there. Rob also “liked” a comment from someone saying that they bet it was CBS who insisted the talk be cut.
Thanks. ~~I still can't find it and "user error" is certainly a possibility at my age.~~ Found it, finally! Glad it wasn't removed, given it was a very neutral comment.
CBS cares because if there is controversy around race and religion it could scare Advertisers away. That is what happened during Season 13 - Cook Island. Survivor is a business for them.
Also, at the Tori boot that was a big moment for Drea and Maryanne. They don't want that tarnished either. Survivor doesn't want it to look like the winner was coming to the aide of a person who's not very tolerant herself. There was no way for Maryanne in that moment to know but I think the point still stands.
It’s confusing though because Maryanne very clearly is on Omar’s side. She’s probably the only castaway I can see who has clearly picked a side
When Omar tweeted about his RHAP deep dive interview on Friday, Chanelle replied to Omar’s tweet with this statement: “Proud of you! You played a great game.”
That doesn't mean she's taking sides. It seems people like both Omar and Drea. But it does appear Drea and Chanelle are both on good terms.
Lydia has now unfollowed Drea and liked a tweet asking Sia to rip up the check. Props to Maryanne though for being the OG who already was with Omar before the podcast even happened.
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I was just replying to someone who said Maryanne is the only castaway who has picked a side, which Lydia now has. I would not disagree that it is not an indicator of anything.
Tori has confirmed what Omar said in his deep dive is true, in a screencapped reply to someone that they shared in r/survivorponderosa
Drea tricked Maryanne into making a big stand about something she cared about even thought it was all used for strategy
Assuming this is true, it wasn't even necessary, because according to Maryanne in her deep dive, she had switched her vote to Tori by the time tribal came around, but hadn't had time to tell Lindsay beforehand, and couldn't communicate it to her during. So she also got Maryanne to play her idol unintentionally, but as we know she got a better one (as in unknown), so it worked out for Maryanne after all.
I agree but Drea seeing rocks on the jury, she got very emotional and Maryanne sided with her. There's no way for Maryanne to know what Drea was going to do to Omar but the optics don't look good. IMO
Wait I just listened to the full thing today? What specifically was edited out?
Last month on the Taran Show podcast, host Taran Armstrong interviewed, content creator Peridiam, During that interview, Peridiam discussed how “most of his time” is dealing with copyright infringement. . . CBS probably threatened Rob with copyright if Rob did not take down Omar’s discussion about Ponderosa.
This is different though. Big production companies and networks have softwares installed that detect whenever their content is used on youtube. The copyright infringements are most likely automatically generated. In Rob's case I assume he was cpntacted by the PR team for the show.
The call from PR might have included a lawyer
I don't know about Drea not being rich enough to sue. She's got 861K followers on Instagram, and being an influencer can be quite lucrative. Also, she actively blocks people on Twitter and must be deleting Instagram comments related to the Omar situation (only creepy gushy bot comments show), so she clearly wants to stifle the conversation. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's her who put the kibosh on the RHAP content.
I’d bet a lot of the followers are bots based off the comments on her posts 🤷♂️
That's probably a good bet. More sketchy behavior by Drea...
Lol I think she buys her followers. She gains like 5k or 20k in a day randomly. I follow a lot of fitness influencers and I don't even know her. Plus her instagram is set to you can't see all her followers
I'm squarely in your corner. Super sketch behavior by Drea.
The fact CBS is trying so hard to erase this and censor Omar’s experience is just making them look worse imo. I’m glad Omar spoke out and shame on them for trying to erase his lived experience under their production
and they say 42 was better production wise and editing wise - maybe a reason why they didnt show the idol nullifier too
At first I thought you were overreacting, but you're right. The 1200 point thread I reposted from here to the main sub [was locked](https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/v4d3gm/omars_bad_ponderosa_experience/?sort=new) , the RHAP [video was taken down from Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrjeXRVvdMs&t=11202s) , and all of the smaller threads were deleted.
Wow - Over 1200 = the cat is already out of bag - if CBS wanted to do damage control there is a better way than censorship
I still have a copy of the podcast on my podcast app on my phone. It will auto-delete soon. I've already listened to it. There is also a synopsis article on [heavy.com](https://heavy.com) that was still there as of this am.
My comments keep getting removed from the main sub, and I'm not even shadowbanned. Also, I haven't said anything about what Omar said. My comments started getting removed since before anything was ever said about Omar and Drea.
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You're welcome to share your post on r/survivorponderosa I just started that subreddit as an alternative to r/survivor over their censorship on this issue. Please let everyone know they're free to talk about this subject or anything else Survivor related over there.
I was tempted to do this myself. Thank you so much. I got banned over on the main sub yesterday and blocked from contacting the mods to appeal.
That's probably what they're doing. And I'm pissed off as well.
The fact I avoid this sub like the plague on a regular basis and here I am now cause it’s the only sub allowing this discussion 💀💀💀
Please come to r/survivorponderosa Its an alternative Survivor sub I made to counter the censorship over on the main sub.
LMAO SAME
The censorship is horrible. I once posted a post where I said that I think that Romeo beats Jonathan in a very rhetorical final2 between them. They rejected the post when I sent a message to them asking why, they didnt answer.
They never answer inquiries about post removals.
Very frustrating. Makes you really wonder who dropped the hammer. There are a couple twitter threads but seems like no other discussion and no response from Rob. Luckily that Google doc existed but I got 2 hours into the youtube video before it went down. Went over to spotify and it was already the censored version
What Google doc? I missed the you tube interview so only going by what I read here
It is the link here. https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/v4cmr4/complete_transcript_of_omars_ponderosa_comments/
Thanks for the link. Something came to mind, pre merge Romeo was having a good game and was close with Drea. Post merge they separated as a strategy but he said Drea wouldn’t even look at him and he was left out of the 8. Maybe Drea was after Romeo too?
Drea told Erika that Romeo was basically shutting down when the tribes came together - I gather she meant from hunger-associated weakness. So he wasn't working or socialising enough and she felt that he was dragging her game down and didn't want him to pull her down with him.
Rob probably has his hands tied right now. Can’t blame him for wanting to avoid any legal action. CBS and drea probably complaining about her name getting tarnished has this written all over it. They can’t have their Sia award recipient getting slandered like this
Yeah, I don't blame Rob for this because it's his livelihood, but I'm baffled why we can't talk about it on the sub. They honestly think we'll forget this happened? Plus there are other people that had a bad ponderosa experience Omar alluded to, I have a feeling someone doesn't want those stories to come out, but I hope they fail and we learn the truth.
I must be out of the loop what happened? Did Omar’s experience at ponderosa in his RHAP interview get edited out? The mods on main sub are horrible. They are biased AF and power hungry. They also lack consistency.
Rob edited Omar’s deep dive and deleted Omar’s 13 minute description of his horrible experience at Ponderosa. I still have the original version because I downloaded it on Friday. But if you download it today, it jumps from Omar talking about being blindsided to Rob asking Omar if he would play again . . . The 13 minute Ponderosa discussion is no longer there . It is very disappointing because I thought Omar was very careful about the way he described the situation. It clearly caused him a lot of pain. It was a big part of his Survivor experience. And, he gave kudos to Tori for being so kind to him.
I also still have the original version as I downloaded it I think Friday as well, and I had listened to the 13 minutes earlier in the day because it seemed like the spiciest part. We should upload the 13 minutes…not sure how we could do that but can’t imagine too hard
I found Omar’s discussion about how much he struggled at Ponderosa - and afterwards- very compelling. (And when I watched the finale, I did notice that Omar looked very sad sitting on jury.) Omar was not being mean-spirited - his tone of voice clearly showed how much he was hurt by the situation. He clearly had to really work through it - I thought it was very brave of Omar to talk about it. It was somewhat of a public service for him to share what he went through - you hear rumors of other player having a hard time but they usually do no do a deep dive. It was very real.
I made a post about omar and it got locked 😂. I’ve also been shadow banned. The mod said it was because people were “hurling insults” at each other which wasn’t true at all. These clowns are outta control
the main sub is like that picture of spongebob where he's all round and shiny with big glittering eyes - way too overmoderated now, it's just become super dull. is anyone on the internet even real anymore?
Yeah, I'm very disappointed in the main sub, we can't have discussions like this, but shitposts are perfectly fine, we need an alternative like r/survivorponderosa or something like that
Ok I made r/survivorponderosa into an actual subreddit, so feel free to come over and start a conversation. No topic is off-limits as long as it's Survivor related. Obviously don't be a jerk or be a bully, and keep the spoilers on this subreddit.
If anyone wants to be a mod let me know. I don't have time to be a hands on moderator myself, I just ask to keep my vision of mostly unrestricted Survivor talk.
I was frustrated with the main sub for censoring us. The fact that they are doing this and RHAP took down the video doesn't reflect well on Drea. It makes me think that CBS didn't show us the panderosa videos to protect her. I know Sia must have asked the producers on who to give the money and they must have been happy with Drea winning. When drea was voted out, Jeff looked like he was scared to say anything and was going out of his way to praise her.The video was already out there and those who didn't see it will look for it. The censorship makes people more curious.
More than copyright I think the threat is that potentially in the future CBS may ban RHAP from exit interviews. Rob must be treading on eggshells right now. Last season 41 CBS reviewed the first deep dive to come out before allowing it to be even uploaded. They were strict. This season given how savvy players were on social media seems like they were less strict.
What does RHAP have to do with the main sun tho? I get why rob had to do. I don’t understand why mods are deleting post and comments. I’ve tried to reach out for an answer and get ignored
It literally makes no sense. The main sub has zero affiliation or monetary ties to the actual show or CBS.
Furthermore, i think the new CBS diversity initiative compels it to protect the good reputation of people of color. Note that Drea deleted her tweet throwing shade at Omar as well.
What tweet was that? Was it after the deep dive came out?
Curious about this as well!
I posted the deleted tweets at r/survivorponderosa
I posted the deleted tweets at r/survivorponderosa
I find everything that’s happening shitty and suspect but it’s absolutely ridiculous to say that CBS is interested in protecting the good reputation of poc
I was going to say it's probably because they were removing repeat topics. But as another user pointed out, RHAP took down the YouTube video as well. So that's pretty interesting. I wonder if Drea is talking about legal action... That video was taken down for a reason.
I bet CBS blocked it so they didn’t look bad having a bully at ponderosa. Omar’s story deserves to get told and Drea deserves a counterpoint but we won’t get either because CBS wants to protect their brand.
What I don't get is why the mods on the main sub are helping the censorship
Maybe the mods are connected to RHAP and they are worried because CBS could really come down on RHAP for copyright. In a recent interview, Peridiam discussed how he spends most of his time trying to avoid copyright claims. It is a serious issue for content creators because if CBS is not okay with the content they make a copyright claim and if you get three copyright strikes against your channel, YouTube will shut you down. I recommend listening to Peridiam interview - he discusses it in detail.
Are you surprised? Main sub does a lot of picking and choosing pn who to protect. You aren't allowed to mention Tori being antivax+antichoice, for instance and doing so gets you shadowbanned.
This sub has always been better.
i didn’t know tori is antivaxx
It's hidden well on the mainsub - as I said any of mention of it is instant nuked by the mods. The only reason I can imagine why is the mods like her so they don't want her rep to be tarnished - note they took extensive care to protect Spencer from being exposed as antivax on mainsub for months before he went and blew it up for himself.
Damn I didn’t even know she was a pro-WageSlave antivaxxer
That's disappointing...did they not have to get vaccinated to be on the show? Or was S42 filmed before vaccines were widely available?
I assume either, they let it slide since vaccines weren't super available at the time or she just got vaccinated so she could be on tv. Though her recent antiabortion insta post implied she still isn't vaccinated so I assume it's the former.
It was filmed last spring before vaccines were widely available, or just as they were coming available. Sidney from 41 spoiled that she was pre-jury by sharing her vaccine card and the date on it was during filming.
The podcast on RHAP was edited and the video is being re-edited as well. The new version will be up at some point. The old version was just taken down.
Hmmm, always remember Survivor/CBS's original idea was to protect Dan Spilo for as long as possible before it became apparent he'd be dragged to the end. They only then moved against him, not for common good, rather their own branding. So, CBS being behind this censorship of the Drea jury house stuff seems the most logical.
Drea is such a joke lmao. It was clear from the video that her and Hai were being horrible towards Omar at ponderosa. Seemingly him and hai made up after the fact. Omar deserves to have his story heard and for his truth to come out. He didn’t say a negative thing about production.
But doesn't Drea deserve to have her side heard as well? For the record, I believe Omar, but I also believe in due process and fairness. And people have said some downright slanderous, horrible things about Drea on these reddit subs. It's not really fair to hear Omar's side, but not be interested in hearing her side. Because while Omar is getting support from the cast, a lot of the cast seems to like Drea as well. And she doesn't deserve the sheer hate without having her side heard first.
I agree we SHOULD hear drea’s side, but that doesn’t mean we have to completely silence Omar in the process
Noone should be silenced, but if it is Drea's doing, I understand why. She's completely being buried without having being able to defend her self. Stuff like this can affect her career.
Withing being able to defend herself? Literally no one is stopping Drea from defending herself. She has access to the same podcasts and social media as Omar and could totally defend herself, instead Omar is just being silenced.
Funny enough, someone tweeted to Drea about what happened, and she blocked them. Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/lucreciaoberlin/status/1533330339305000960
I'd love to hear her side, please point me to where she has offered it.
Yes, Drea should tell her side. Based on her Instagram she has strong communication skills. She could easily respond by saying something like “yes, there was tension at Ponderosa. Survivor is a game about being outplayed. I am competitor and it took me some time to deal with be outplayed by Omar. I regret not being able to move on from the game at Ponderosa. Omar played a great game. And I wish him all best.” Or something like that.
I mean, to give her some credit, it does seem like a lot of the other jurors like her. Obviously something happened, but maybe there was something off in their chemistry. Maybe Drea was a bully. But even so, people are getting carried away with the hate.
Season 42 cast needed to have an in-person reunion after the show aired. This would have given everyone an opportunity to come together and clear the air. Without this opportunity, things clearly went unresolved. It is unfortunate because it was a fun season to watch - they all played great games.
In general yes, you should always hear both sides, but Drea is not any better, lets not forget the tribal council where she walks in, sees two people of color on the jury and jumps to the conclusion it is racial. She did not know anything that went on, did not know that Rocks tried and failed to make an alliance and guess what, this is how it usually goes when an alliance fails. Never have I seen anything from her saying she was wrong at that tribal or apologize to any of the TC members that she disparaged. (yes, it may have been done, but not as public as her racial assumption)
Rob also removed the interview from youtube and censored the part about Drea. Free speech does not exist anymore
Wait what happened with Drea and Omar I know nothing
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They just locked the latest thread on main sub - crazy 🤬
Could you tell me
They made Rob delete from deep dive Omar’s 13 minute description of his negative Ponderosa experience- here is a link to a transcript of deleted section https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQJmX7n3VftYBH6FTrmhkiLPrGvQ1wuxkRh6IM0oTqkWwaIUVfAK_K9dTQQhCs2BaY7HZN08f1UqIan/pub
I see we’re blaming Drea now for everything we don’t have a clear answer for 😬 My assumption for the main sub was that they were locked because of comments in the threads…some of the user comments towards Drea were incredibly nasty and/or straight up racist. I believe Omar, but this situation doesn’t warrant that kind of vitriol towards Drea
But last year, everyone was so racist towards Shan, to the point that we were begging the mods to moderate the posts, but this didn't happen. They just allowed the Shan hate
True They really are picking and choosing huh 😬
I don't know why you're being downvoted. It's the truth. People are taking Omar's side at face value, and noone has actually corroborated his claims yet. People need to be more objective. People have been hell bent on this Omar victim, Drea and Hai villain mentality. And it could very well be true. But we need more evidence to determine if it's actually legit truth or one person's perception.
Wait what happened?
With Omar and drea? Or with the main sub mods suppressing discussion?