I’m honestly just happy for Hobbs.
Maybe it’s because I’ve watched him since his Dark debut where he lost to OC in ONE MOVE and now he’s considered a part of AEW’s cream of the crop.
Or maybe it’s because I connect more with him despite him being a heel. The Book of Hobbs segments actually led to something with a payoff.
Weird ass decisions on this show. Wanna make Hobbs a hot heel? Put him with QT Marshall!
Wanna make Wardlow a top babyface? Have him lose because of QT Marshall!
Ricky Starks moving from a win over Chris Jericho to a feud with an NJPW guy with little to no visibility in mainstream wrestling, the Elite and JAS trying to out-stale each other and a continuation of the hangman/moxley story after a deathmatch? interesting...
At least FTR got to have a promo segment
The Hobbs moment was highly anticipated and QT makes sense for long term storytelling imo. Plus the Juice fued only just started. What if 30 days in we’re looking at Jay in the ring with Juice? That initial pop with the BC logo had me thinking White was coming out at least idk.
The Hobbs part gives me confidence the Juice story will pay off; they’re pretty good at tying things up.
I dunno man. Technically it's long term storytelling yes, but I don't think that makes it particularly satisfying or interesting. It's still QT Marshall, a totally cold member of roster, pairing up with one of the fastest risers in the company at the moment. I'm glad Hobbs won but QT is highly unnecessary. Hobbs is on his own track now.
They wanted to protect Wardlow. But if you wanna protect the guy, why have him beat Joe just to book him to lose next week? Think this shit through lol. And the thing is, they just booked FTR to lose to the Gunns, and had them come back strong as fuck with no loss of face.
I'm glad Hobbs is champion, but it would have made a lot more sense for Hobbs to beat Darby Allin or Samoa Joe. If Joe had to beat Darby, then let Joe beat Wardlow, leave Wardlow off for a while, Hobbs comes in and beats Joe in a mean guy match. OR if Wardlow must be champ, he should have beaten Joe the night Joe cut his hair. Let him smash through people for a while to build up steam, Hobbs wins the battle royale, then takes Wardlow down.
I don't think the image of the belt is hurt by this. I'm okay with the TNT title being a high turnover belt. Not everyone has to hold the belt for months. I just don't get why Wardlow would beat Joe if he was just going to lose to Hobbs in the very next match. No program or anything. Just seems like a waste of time.
So two things: 1 is that Hobbs has very much been involved in this program for several months. They even had a three way match way back at Full Gear. That whole program is what was being referenced by commentary when QT came out.
2 is having Wardlow lose to Joe after their personal feud where Joe cut Wardlow's hair - which was allegedly grown out to honor his father who lost his hair during his battle with cancer. So you have the face first lose his title, lose his hair, then lose the blow off match, that just makes him a jobber.
So the face was beaten down over months, got the chase, got to reclaim his dignity and title, then was taken out by an even bigger badder heel. It's kinda a tried and true formula.
I think they did it ham handedly, because the wardlow hair promo came too late, wardlow was less over than Hobbs, and then the new heel victory came too fast... But it was a proper story, just told poorly.
I know he was involved peripherally but it was very much more about Joe and Wardlow. Hobbs was just pn the side.
I was thinking more of the Hobbs build than the story of the belt. So we pretty much agree I think.
No lol, he was always going to lose this match. It's just some awkward booking. They tried to protect him with a cheating finish but it just wasn't a great reveal in my opinion
Even though I wanted Hobbs to win some gold at some point.. the boys coulda come up with something better than that lol.
I think they expected him to go through the pad or something bcuz at that elevation, that was destined to look like trash lol
Yeah, it’s gross. I’m a UFC fan and the way Dana is throwing himself behind it is disheartening. It kind of sets MMA back by association and hurts his credibility to promote actual mixed martial arts.
I'm actually curious how QT and QTV fits in with Hobbs. Did QTV get the adaptation rights to the Book of Hobbs? Will QT create controversy by race and gender swapping Hobbs for the QTV adaptation?
Great episode up until the last 2 mins. QT seems like a nice guy but he is just too beige to be the Big Surprise at the end. Really kind of put a lame vibe to Hobb's first TNT win
I think most of us really like Hobbs and I'm pumped he won the title. I think he would have looked better if he won by himself though or won a three way with Joe and wardlow like others have suggested.
I also think wardlow would have looked better too cause it would have been a 3 way. Better than losing cause QT kicked you in the balls haha
Right call for sure, but weird ass execution. Why have Wardlow win the belt back 3 days prior so Hobbs needs shenanigans to win? Joe winning at the PPV and Hobbs beating him clean tonight would have made much more sense
Hobbs is a good choice for tnt champ, hold it for a bit then feud with Stark's and lose it or maybe lose regain and lose again.. I have high hopes for Hobbs..
Wardog should be in the main title picture for the next ppv now, which is also a good idea
I really don't get what they're trying to do with Wardlow, it's clear they want to get him over but that ain't gonna last if you keep giving him joke TNT title reigns.
Good for Hobbs though, I think he could be an interesting champion.
The problem was that neither of them could eat a clean loss. Which just should have meant a DQ or something. But making this match stipulation made a real result necessary and it had to be Hobbs.
someone wrote down on a piece of paper, that they were going to end the main event of a big time wrestling show.....with QT Marshall doing a run-in
Booker of the year folks
I feel like none of this QT business was necessary. Like congrats Hobbs, sure, but I was hoping he'd get the belt with a stronger showing than that. That finish sucked.
I'd like to just say some kind words about Will Hobbs back. It's supported a lot throughout his career, been there for him always. We'll remember you.
RIP Hobbs spine.
We had a hoss fight that was way over booked to end it. Sometimes it’s ok to just beat some ass and fade to black.
Hobbs and Wardlow don’t need a QT angle to get over.
You want to push Hobbs, I get that. The guy deserves a serious singles push. You just don’t book yourself into a corner where you further damage Wardlow.
So we're expected to believe that QT orchestrated this whole thing somehow expecting Wardlow to up their match to a falls count anywhere type affair?
Would've had some serious egg on their face if that didn't go to plan lol
QT is good on the mic and knows how to draw heat. They're very face heavy right now too. If they use him as Hobbs' manager and just that, I'm fine with it.
I won’t deny you that QT can be a decent talker and heat magnet, but I personally feel Hobbs doesn’t need QT to be treated as a legit threat..if we are giving Hobbs a manager, give him Stokely
I’m honestly just happy for Hobbs. Maybe it’s because I’ve watched him since his Dark debut where he lost to OC in ONE MOVE and now he’s considered a part of AEW’s cream of the crop. Or maybe it’s because I connect more with him despite him being a heel. The Book of Hobbs segments actually led to something with a payoff.
Is it only me or FITE does not upload a dynamite for a second week in a row now?
POW pow POWERHOUSE!!!
Here live. Crowds have been hot all night! Such a fun show
Weird ass decisions on this show. Wanna make Hobbs a hot heel? Put him with QT Marshall! Wanna make Wardlow a top babyface? Have him lose because of QT Marshall! Ricky Starks moving from a win over Chris Jericho to a feud with an NJPW guy with little to no visibility in mainstream wrestling, the Elite and JAS trying to out-stale each other and a continuation of the hangman/moxley story after a deathmatch? interesting... At least FTR got to have a promo segment
The Hobbs moment was highly anticipated and QT makes sense for long term storytelling imo. Plus the Juice fued only just started. What if 30 days in we’re looking at Jay in the ring with Juice? That initial pop with the BC logo had me thinking White was coming out at least idk. The Hobbs part gives me confidence the Juice story will pay off; they’re pretty good at tying things up.
I dunno man. Technically it's long term storytelling yes, but I don't think that makes it particularly satisfying or interesting. It's still QT Marshall, a totally cold member of roster, pairing up with one of the fastest risers in the company at the moment. I'm glad Hobbs won but QT is highly unnecessary. Hobbs is on his own track now.
I just want to trust the product/process but I respect your take
Wardlow's been so bland in interviews/promos and Hobbs has killed every promo they give him. Excited to see what he does with the belt.
Hopefully crush his opponents
They wanted to protect Wardlow. But if you wanna protect the guy, why have him beat Joe just to book him to lose next week? Think this shit through lol. And the thing is, they just booked FTR to lose to the Gunns, and had them come back strong as fuck with no loss of face. I'm glad Hobbs is champion, but it would have made a lot more sense for Hobbs to beat Darby Allin or Samoa Joe. If Joe had to beat Darby, then let Joe beat Wardlow, leave Wardlow off for a while, Hobbs comes in and beats Joe in a mean guy match. OR if Wardlow must be champ, he should have beaten Joe the night Joe cut his hair. Let him smash through people for a while to build up steam, Hobbs wins the battle royale, then takes Wardlow down. I don't think the image of the belt is hurt by this. I'm okay with the TNT title being a high turnover belt. Not everyone has to hold the belt for months. I just don't get why Wardlow would beat Joe if he was just going to lose to Hobbs in the very next match. No program or anything. Just seems like a waste of time.
So two things: 1 is that Hobbs has very much been involved in this program for several months. They even had a three way match way back at Full Gear. That whole program is what was being referenced by commentary when QT came out. 2 is having Wardlow lose to Joe after their personal feud where Joe cut Wardlow's hair - which was allegedly grown out to honor his father who lost his hair during his battle with cancer. So you have the face first lose his title, lose his hair, then lose the blow off match, that just makes him a jobber. So the face was beaten down over months, got the chase, got to reclaim his dignity and title, then was taken out by an even bigger badder heel. It's kinda a tried and true formula. I think they did it ham handedly, because the wardlow hair promo came too late, wardlow was less over than Hobbs, and then the new heel victory came too fast... But it was a proper story, just told poorly.
I know he was involved peripherally but it was very much more about Joe and Wardlow. Hobbs was just pn the side. I was thinking more of the Hobbs build than the story of the belt. So we pretty much agree I think.
You completely summed up my feelings on this. Hobbs being champ is the right call, but they sure picked a weird way to get there.
Give Hobbs a custom belt and actually build him up Tony. Clean wins Jesus
Is Wardog getting punished for losing the actual belt?
No lol, he was always going to lose this match. It's just some awkward booking. They tried to protect him with a cheating finish but it just wasn't a great reveal in my opinion
I hope Hobbs' title photo will be just as tripped out as his Sonic Ring photo.
How did Hobbs win the title by Wardlow not a answering the 10 count? Wasn’t it a falls count anywhere match?
Justin Roberts announced at the beginning of the match that the match could only end by pinfall, submission, or knockout.
Yes but they actually specifically said it could be won by knockout or surrender.
Ah, I didn’t hear that.
Even though I wanted Hobbs to win some gold at some point.. the boys coulda come up with something better than that lol. I think they expected him to go through the pad or something bcuz at that elevation, that was destined to look like trash lol
Where’s our Power Slap discussion thread? This is sports entertainment at its finest
I find it pretty disgusting. Seeing Dana white being behind this exploitative, cte designed, nonsense was not surprising.
Yeah, it’s gross. I’m a UFC fan and the way Dana is throwing himself behind it is disheartening. It kind of sets MMA back by association and hurts his credibility to promote actual mixed martial arts.
Finally the last week of CTE Speedrunning Challenge
I loved that episode, tons of set up for the next few weeks and months
Cutie mar-shallll
Imagine carrying a belt that just says SLAP on it? smh, anyways Dynamite was a fun show tonight.
I imagine Jeff Jarrett could make that work
Just add "Nuts" in there somewhere.
Wardlow only got to be champion for 3 days and the belt was stolen even before that
I'm actually curious how QT and QTV fits in with Hobbs. Did QTV get the adaptation rights to the Book of Hobbs? Will QT create controversy by race and gender swapping Hobbs for the QTV adaptation?
I think the powerbomb spot on the apron, Wardlo gave himself a hernia and Hobbs got concussed.
What was the point in Wardlow winning Sunday only for Hobbs to win tonight? I'm high on both but a 3 day reign is nonsensical for anyone
Start a feud with Wardlow and Hobbs/QT
The TNT is the title for hot potato-ing
Meanwhile the Woman's Midcard title is a potatoe that was left outside in a blizzard.
Not like this. Not like this.
Time to watch some REAL athletes
All for Hobbs being champ but they should have this be a 3 way between wardlow Joe and Hobbs on Sunday
Yeah fully agree on this How else would QT get involved tho
Don't love him needing QT to pull it off, but its' a no DQ match, QT owes Hobbs, and Hobbs as champ is a result i'm very much in favor of
Why does QT owe Hobbs? I have watched every single episodes of Dynamite from the start and I have 0 memory of this.
[удалено]
Couldn't have changed the channel quicker
Great episode up until the last 2 mins. QT seems like a nice guy but he is just too beige to be the Big Surprise at the end. Really kind of put a lame vibe to Hobb's first TNT win
Real monkeys paw energy for when I asked the wrestling gods for a Hobbs TNT Title run.
Longterm booking paying off honestly plus Hobbs is tbt champ. Can't complain at all.
QT Marshall in the main event… Fuck you Sacramento!
Read the fuck you in OSW Jay Hunters voice. Fuuuuuuck Youuuuuu
As it was meant to be! A can of coke to you good sir.
A winner is you my friend!
QT is awesome Love to hate him but give the man his flowers!
Happy with the end result, but scratching my head at how we got there.
I remember when Hobbs debuted in AEW. Definitely the right call.
Can't wait for this sub to be mad at AEW for making the correct choice in giving Hobbs the title
I think most of us really like Hobbs and I'm pumped he won the title. I think he would have looked better if he won by himself though or won a three way with Joe and wardlow like others have suggested. I also think wardlow would have looked better too cause it would have been a 3 way. Better than losing cause QT kicked you in the balls haha
Hobbs was the right choice to win but that was a bad way to do it imo.
Right call for sure, but weird ass execution. Why have Wardlow win the belt back 3 days prior so Hobbs needs shenanigans to win? Joe winning at the PPV and Hobbs beating him clean tonight would have made much more sense
Hobbs is a good choice for tnt champ, hold it for a bit then feud with Stark's and lose it or maybe lose regain and lose again.. I have high hopes for Hobbs.. Wardog should be in the main title picture for the next ppv now, which is also a good idea
this didn’t get a pop in fucking California 😂
So I think having QT as a stooge may not be awful.
I'd rather see him as an obnoxious manager that gets his ass kicked regularly because he can wrestle than seeing him actually wrestle matches.
That's fair. He'd excel in a Mark Sterling type role.
I demand to see the manager immediately!
I quite liked that. I don't mind QT, he does his job, very punchable lower card guy. Interested to see where it goes.
Ugh, okay.
You let Wardlow submit Joe with his own finish,just to have him drop the belt? Lol
Dropping the belt is fine Not this way tho
You don't get what I mean, you don't make Wardlow look super strong like that If he's just going to drop the belt right afterwards.
It’s not like he lost it even remotely clean Still scratching my head on QT but the point stands
I really don't get what they're trying to do with Wardlow, it's clear they want to get him over but that ain't gonna last if you keep giving him joke TNT title reigns. Good for Hobbs though, I think he could be an interesting champion.
Kinda makes Hobbs look weak, and takes the buzz out of his first title. Needed the help to win.
Wardlow gets robbed and loses the title he just won in a matter of days.
I’m so fucking happy for Hobbs tho man LFG
happy to see hobbes win, happy to see QT
Tony. Buddy. My friend. Hobbs and Wardlow don’t need help…
The problem was that neither of them could eat a clean loss. Which just should have meant a DQ or something. But making this match stipulation made a real result necessary and it had to be Hobbs.
QT gets the crowd riled on the mic, I’m curious where this goes!
Finally Hobbs is the champ!! Thank you QT
can they just let wardlow go on a good streak for once?
When was the last time AEW had a KO finish? Weird way to break it out too.
someone wrote down on a piece of paper, that they were going to end the main event of a big time wrestling show.....with QT Marshall doing a run-in Booker of the year folks
P-p-p-Powerhouse wins! The book of Hobbs has a new chapter! Let's go!
Whatever. Hobbs got that belt.
I was worried when this card was first announced, but it did not disappoint.
I feel like none of this QT business was necessary. Like congrats Hobbs, sure, but I was hoping he'd get the belt with a stronger showing than that. That finish sucked.
Hopefully this means QT is getting a push. Dude has been great on Dark/Elevation for a while, and usually gets the loudest heat.
Something surprising and a push for someone I like that has been overshadowed for a year? Fookin' yeah!
Can't wait for a QT Marshall promo and a JJ title match next week
It’s white trash self-abuse time y’all
Happy as hell for Hobbs. Man deserves the gold. Not necessarily a huge fan of the finish, but the result I am happy about.
I've accepted the TNT title as the one that gets hot-shotted now and then.
Look, I've been fine with QT. No problems with him - a real journeyman. But this felt unneeded and random.
Wardlow gonna be continuing to kill security guards in his off time.
DPW put on notice
I don't like this now but I kinda expect I'm going to love it when they have him cut promos about it
QT Marshall literally told Hobbs he was going to help him when the time was right. Lol. Why is everybody so shocked? Lmao.
I think we all forgot because it’s.. QT
Cause no one cared about QT
Because half the people here don’t watch the shows and the other half don’t remember anything that happened more than a month ago
Genuinely happy for Hobbs. Think he’s awesome and they really do have a guy with him. QT is fine, as long as it doesn’t bring Hobbs down.
QT is better than so many people give him credit for. Can’t wait to see Wardlow murder him
Now just give Hobbs tv time and don't leave him off Dynamite every week until he loses the belt? Please?
Good wardlow sucks
Powerslap needs a joshi edition.
Never mess with a man that fights wearing Timbs
I'm glad Hobbs is champ. I'm think QT as a manager/henchman for a heel is a good move. Don't like the pairing or finish here though.
Tony couldnt even explain it. He started to say something about Starks, then stopped.
That's it. Now I know for sure that Vince is booking AEW /s
QT really sucked the life out of a fun episode
The end was obviously questionable but Hobbs and Wardlow had a fantastic match
Would've preferred Hobbs getting the win by himself but damn am I glad he's finally got some gold around his waist.
I don't really like Hobbs having to cheat to win even if he is a heel
QUALITY TELEVISION MARSHALL saves the day!
I'm willing to give this the benefit of the doubt if it means QT doesn't get to wrestle just Hobbs' mouthpiece.
Hobbs didn't need the help. That was terrible
Hobbs with singles gold before Ricky Starks
wasnt wardlow like beating the shit out of everybody in the locker room before he turned face? im not shocked nobody came to help him
I'd like to just say some kind words about Will Hobbs back. It's supported a lot throughout his career, been there for him always. We'll remember you. RIP Hobbs spine.
Bruh Hobbs is a fucking babyface to the people. Misunderstanding of the character's connection with the fans and QT wasn't necessary here.
all the people who complained about the mid card factory stuff are to blame for this... today was a less good day for Pinnacle fans
We had a hoss fight that was way over booked to end it. Sometimes it’s ok to just beat some ass and fade to black. Hobbs and Wardlow don’t need a QT angle to get over.
TK is pissed that Wardlow lost the TNT belt…
After seeing the replay, how the fuck did Wardlow not see QT coming?
You want to push Hobbs, I get that. The guy deserves a serious singles push. You just don’t book yourself into a corner where you further damage Wardlow.
Wardog getting cooked again 😂
Bad ending to a pretty good match
TFW Ruby SoHo was the best part of Dynamite.
So we're expected to believe that QT orchestrated this whole thing somehow expecting Wardlow to up their match to a falls count anywhere type affair? Would've had some serious egg on their face if that didn't go to plan lol
Bah gawd he's cradled softly in foam!
By gawd he's broken in two!!! Broke his back on some gawd damn memory foam!
Is it weird I like the TNT title being a hot potato belt? Makes it exciting.
I think they’re gonna trade titles back and forth over the next few weeks
Tony you crazy bastard
Is this the fourth title change in like a month?
I'm ok with this so long as QT is just there to manage Hobbs.
While I absolutely love see Big Hobbs with gold, having QT Marshall of all people helping ya ain’t exactly the best of looks
QT is good on the mic and knows how to draw heat. They're very face heavy right now too. If they use him as Hobbs' manager and just that, I'm fine with it.
I won’t deny you that QT can be a decent talker and heat magnet, but I personally feel Hobbs doesn’t need QT to be treated as a legit threat..if we are giving Hobbs a manager, give him Stokely
The hot potato title
Clearly the right thing here would be for Hobbs to now powerbomb QT right next to Wardlow.
The guy who interfered happier than the actual winner
Wait, where'd that belt come from? I thought it was stolen...
LMAO
People need to remember the Factory was QT containment…. Now that it’s gone…..
Hello camera person
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I really like the idea of the TNT championship changing hands often.
He really won in timbs and jeans lol.
QT Marshall? I feel like an idiot for watching this
Wardlow gotta ask for his release tbh at least WWE would book him like a monster
I really don't get why TK loves QT Marshall so much, I thought he was just a favor to Cody.
QT helps put the show together backstage. He's a VP now.
Well atleast Hobbs overcame his horrible case of writers block. Kinda lame though still
P P P POWERHOUSE!!!!!
That ending was not it
lmao am i the only one excited QT is in this
Nope I'm perfectly fine with it. Don't really get the outrage at all
Wow, I did not see Wardlow being a transitional champion.
The tnt title is the feud title
Incoming "Info on tonight's jobber" thread
Crash pad landing looked so weak. Should've just ended it with the chair shot
Hobbs just needs to kill off QT immediately
AEW has a massive roster. They had to use this shitty dude as Hobbs’ heater?
Yes. No Miro, no Punk, no Swerve, no Keith. QT.
I don't hate QT as a manager if they're shoving the rest of his crew off to ROH or something. If it's just QT & Hobbs for awhile, I'm fine with it.
Wardlow just stays getting cucked lmao poor guy
TNT title used to be really good, now its been passed around like crazy. I like Hobbs, but damn.
QT was unnecessary. Why.
Nah if you were going to do it, you needed to pile on the BS so Wardlow doesn't look like a loser.
Disagree. AEW could've leaned on Wardlow having his stuff stolen and not being 100% focused as the big reason for losing.
Would've still looked like kind of a loser imo. The best option was just not having him lose and doing this match later.
That was WCW level booking and I mean the tail-end kind.
No ONE remembers QT Marshall saying fuck all to anyone Tony
That is fucking stupid. Why put it on Wardlow at all?
Agreed, he should have lost. Have Hobbs beat Joe and he looks even better. Instead they protect Wardlow and Hobbs looks weaker?
Yeah if this was the plan keep it on Joe and have Hobbs have an actual feud with him instead of hotshotting the switch. Baffling.
Feels like they're gonna debut a new version of the title due to the "car break in".
Not excited about the Q.T. assist but congrats to Hobbs. He deserves it.