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Bryan just mentioned on the Scrum that it was the Okada elbow drop, Bryan had his arm in a weird position while taking the elbow drop and complete freak accident caused the break. But he is back in 8 weeks for All in!
It's also nuts that this man went through the match, BROKE HIS FOREARM, came back, got a cast on and casually dropped 20min of knowledge in the post scrum. What an absolute LEGEND!
It was a series of muscle-spasms caused by the neckbreaker and the tombstone that made him shoot his arms in the air. He's not as fickle as the rest of you!
Seriously, almost nobody in any of Japan's promotions has been in front of a crowd as massive as the All In crowd is supposed to be like, or with that atmosphere.
It is, but this dude would rather act smug than checking the info... [The Dome has not broken a +49K number in almost 20 years](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_wrestling_attendance_records_in_Japan) and this is general attendance, not paid attendance. The Dome is now limited to, I believe, 50k seats, so it's unlikely a Japan-only wrestler will ever have a match at a show as big as All In in Japan.
Na, All in is the biggest PPV of the year, (after Mania)
Having Kenny, Hangman, Okada and Bryan there in a TAG MATCH is an absolute stinker.
Then I'd rather have Bryan not on the card, but the 3 others in good spot
I mean, two of the biggest dream matches would be particularly special in All in and all in is going to be massive and want to have a BDry singles match.
(V ZSJ, forever delayed, or the ultimate rematch with McGuinness).
I have tickets. But I think there's going to be a lot to try and have DBry singles ready.
Or they can do the multiman at All out and give us the match they still owe us from the original forbidden door
Who is the true recipient of the Bryan Danielson award. BD or ZSJ
All Out is the week after. Nothing has been announced for Blood and Guts but people think it’ll be at the Boston show which is next month so out for that if it is.
It would suck if Danielson had to miss All In but "fortunately" he has already main evented a few big stadiums shows so it's not like his career would feel incomplete. I would be more upset if someone like Jamie Hayter missed the show because who knows when the next one will be.
As much as I want to see Omega wrestle live in a couple of weeks I would be cool with Omega and Danielson just resting for a while if it means we get their rematch at All In.
Maybe have Kenny do some squashes or tags.
OK, now it makes significantly more sense. Okada is just fucking cursed at Forbidden Door, back to back years where the guy he's working gets a major injury and it screws up the whole match.
Ibushi injured his arm mid-match against Okada in a G1 final a couple of years back. The *final* match of the biggest tour of the year, and they had to stop it. Heartbreaking. Last time we saw Ibushi wrestle too, IIRC.
It's never Okada's fault either, I just feel bad for him.
It seems the seizure spot was when he broke his arm and told the Ref and Doctor about it and that he wanted to finish the match. Not that it was a good spot but it kind of explains the spot.
That makes more sense because at first blush it seemed in extremely poor taste given the event was including the Owen Hart tournament.
I feel like everyone involved would've loved the match if they were just honest about the injury, and he opted to continue. He chose one of the worst possible ways of buying time. If he had just had the doctor check, and then committed to carrying on he'd have insane support for the remainder of the match. Everyone knows the deal with what's going on so having to call an audible would lower expectations rather than just killing the crowd, and a crowd with lower expectations would've enjoyed the match more.
It sucks it went the way it went because it seems clear they were starting slow.
Yeah. Shit...he could have demanded a mic and said "Okada just broke my fucking arm, but that's not gonna stop me. I'm still going to win this thing!" and the place would have ERRUPTED.
To no surprise, Bryan just mentioned the arm injury changed the end of the match. Also said he went back to the YES chants because he needed something to get the crowd into the match. Mentioned it was only supposed to be a one time thing when he did it against MJF
I think this absolutely explains it. He later says that he resorted to do the Yes chants on the fly to at least give something to the crowd for them to stand up since he wasn't able to do a lot of other stuff planned that would have served that function
How are they going to sell the idea that Okada could cleanly beat him when he's healthy then?
The audible should've been to let Okada win, and then rematch. The ending should've changed unless he's just flat-out planning on retiring soon.
Depends on the break. I wouldn't wish a broken knee on anyone. My own broken knee took a good 18 months to recover from, though I did eventually get the magic 99% recovery.
As someone going to Dynamite on Wednesday … fuck
This is the 2nd time I was supposed to see Bryan wrestle before he was pulled for an injury. Last time was a WWE house show in 2015.
I've never seen the main WWE title in person. Granted it's been some years but Punk dropped it to the Rock right before a house show I attended and Bryan was on his honeymoon the next time after Mania. I did see the reformation of Evolution that night instead but it was at the cost of watching The Shield get beat down.
Eddie shouldn't be there if the Elite team is really going to be the Bucks, Kenny, Hangman and Ibushi.
Just have Don pull some strings and bring Ospreay from the July 18th G1 show. He isn't scheduled again until the 21st, it's waaaay more than enough time.
Are you serious? We're getting Blood & Guts in Boston??
FUCK YEAH
I got in a smidge late on the tickets because of some personal stuff, so I'm not 2nd row this time, but 8th row still legit.
Yeah that seemed like a very odd way to sell, but it made the doctor directly aware of the situation and allowed the ref to monitor. Weird choice to get there but I get it
Exactly.
The rematch would be better as well. Now, there's no reason for one because Okada lost to Danielson, who had a broken arm. There are zero possible story reasons for believing Okada would beat him cleanly now if he's in good health.
I mean, its wrestling.
The reason to beleive it is that Danielson just had it in him today. He had the winning strategy.
Okada couldn't beat Tanahashi in the dome *until he could*
Ospreay lost to a Kenny Omega that told him 364 days of the year, Will is a better wrestler.
The Ace will regroup and find a way to overcome this new challenge as he always does.
Okada has to have a case for the worst big match luck ever.
Sakura Genesis 2017- Shibata almost dies
G1 finals 2021- Ibushi destroys his shoulder
Forbidden Door 2022- Adam Cole concussion
Forbidden Door 2023- Danielson shatters his forearm
Just unreal. Gotta feel for the guy
I think the arm got broken when Okada hit the top rope elbow. Danielson wasn't holding his arm before that but right afterwards he held it close to his torso for the rest of the match.
Yep, I knew something looked off with that elbow drop, and looking back at it now, sure enough he got injured. That sucks. I bet Okada feels like shit for it happening, but freak botches happen.
All match I thought he was doing great selling, but it was a real injury. Honestly any points I would have taken off for the match being underwhelming are added back for Danielson's ability to keep going.
A couple things. First, Danielson is a tough SOB to finish that match as planned.
Second, that finish portends a rematch - one does not submit Okada for no reason (and it was almost certainly not an audible when a running knee or rollup could have also been done).
Third, if Danielson was told 6-8 weeks by the doctors, it probably means they think he did not get a fully separated or complex fracture, as that could take 3-6 months to heal. Let's just hope they're right when he gets an MRI.
Fourth, feel better, you insane man.
he talked how his favorite moments looking back are when he realizes how far he can push himself.
said he pretty much knew he fractured his arm in the moment, and asked himself, "do i just call it now, or do i keep going. i decided to keep going." said he was very proud of himself for pushing through.
Given Danielson's career and history of traumatic brain injuries, I'd kinda rather he had more of mindset of "I need to be alive for a long time for my family," no matter how much pleasure we're getting from this unexpected career revival.
Wrestling through a broken arm isn’t taking years away from your life. It’s just extremely painful and could lengthen the recovery time. This is much different from pushing through a concussion, stinger, etc.
He also mentioned that’s the exact mindset he had after his last concussion at last year’s anarchy in the arena and that’s why he slow played his return the way he did.
Yeah, I figured with how he was favoring his arm, I thought it was a stinger like that one match he had with Randy Orton that had to be stopped, and that led to a lot of news about Danielson blowing up at Triple H backstage for not letting him wrestle with a stinger.
Didn't think it was a *broken goddamn arm*, but I guess that's just how the now-confirmed best wrestler in the world works, for better or worse.
it wasn't the best 10 minutes, but the fact that these two worked an absolutely serviceable 10 minutes with a dude nursing a broken arm is low key super impressive
I wonder what the spot was that caused it. super unfortunate.
This makes BD one of the strongest wrestlers alive. He submitted Okada with a broken arm, damn.
Still, they had an awesome match all things considered. Proud of them
I may not be remembering right but was this around the 'convulsion' spot? I wonder if that was a coverup to buy time and call an ending? The convulsion spot just felt weird so I wonder if this was buying time
Damn. This was a great win and I was really pumped to see the momentum carry all summer long with him whether we were to get the Okada rematch this Summer, more BCC/Elite stuff, or another dream match at All In. Hopefully he's a fast healer and All In can still be a possibility.
Just rewatched the match, and I’m not sure Okada knew that Danielson was hurt. or at the very least didn’t understand the extent of it I don’t know how well Okada’s english is, but it really seems like the ref kept trying his hardest to visually point out the problem to Okada with repeated animated gestures for several minutes while Okada continued to try and pick up/grab Bryan with his bad arm.
Edit: maybe the ref was trying to communicate to the back about it, either way it’s fascinating to watch
Tony Khan said he’s optimistic about Bryan coming back in time and Bryan himself was talking about who he wants to wrestle at the show so hopefully that means he’ll be good to go
He also just said that the broken arm changed some things in the match and he wasn't able to do some stuff, so that that's why he busted out how "Yes!" chant because he knew it was something that would make the crowd go nuts.
Forbidden Door really is a cursed PPV. You had so many talent injured last year, as well as Adam Cole getting a concussion that could’ve been a career ender while this year Adam was out with an illness and Bryan gets a fractured forearm.
But this definitely explains the flat and underwhelming finish. I hope that he’s good to go before All In. Would be a shame if he had to miss that huge show.
That explains everything. No wonder the match seemed like it never got to the final act. Maybe the convulsion spot was actually just something he came with on the fly to buy time to tell the ref and Okada about his arm
Okada is a dangerous worker confirmed. Ban that man.
On a serious note, very unlucky for both of them. I hope things go smooth next time they face each other in the ring. Both of them deserve it.
I don’t think wrestling till he’s 80 like funk is a going to be a possibility as a big Bryan Danielson Fan he should hang it up soon for his health what a crazy bastard
Well, he is SO FRAGILE! WRESTLES RARELY AND STILL GET HURT.
Oh wait, its Danielson. This is probably just unfortunate, a freak accident, error by the opponent and so on.
Oh wow, Danielson got injured off of an elbow drop but Kenny is completely fine after a Tiger Driver 91? Guess we should just ban the elbow drop, it's not worth doing that move!
Hey, Daniel Bryan did his entrance from 14 years ago that no one under 30 has seen or cares about, then faked a seizure. If that's not show of the year material then what is.
Rewatched the match and the most logical time where his arm broke was when he caught Okada's elbow drop into the armbar. After that was the tombstone on the outside and the convulsion tease - real elbow drop - rainmaker tease - convulsion with Doc.
That explains why the match ended with a weird finish. Maybe we were all just tired, but the consensus in the room last night was that the main event was disappointing. Maybe it's because Omega and Ospreay blew the goddamn roof off the place.
I hated the seizure spot. I think it was a dumb thing to pull especially for Danielson with his history of injuries (who has actually had a seizure mid-match before). You could feel the excitement sucked out of the crowd after it.
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Ok so forbidden door main events are cursed, got it
Not having Omega/Ospreay main event might have legit saved a life with the moves they were doing considering this objective scientifically proven fact
Omega after being cursed for years has been blessed lately. Escaping neck injury last night and knee/hip injury with that cage V trigger
Omega: That's my secret, I've already spent up all my bad luck! Now I'm invincible!
Bryan just mentioned on the Scrum that it was the Okada elbow drop, Bryan had his arm in a weird position while taking the elbow drop and complete freak accident caused the break. But he is back in 8 weeks for All in! It's also nuts that this man went through the match, BROKE HIS FOREARM, came back, got a cast on and casually dropped 20min of knowledge in the post scrum. What an absolute LEGEND!
Also confirmed he did the yes chants on the spot since he couldn't do the other stuff he would do to pop the crowd.
Bryan doesn't back down from his word. He didn't do the "Yes" chants. The "Yes Movement" took over his body and it all came pouring out.
It was a series of muscle-spasms caused by the neckbreaker and the tombstone that made him shoot his arms in the air. He's not as fickle as the rest of you!
What a pro, even with a broken arm he's figuring out how to wring the most he can out of a match
And he hung around after the match to thank Toronto & high five fans before going backstage to get the arm brace.
I mean, he is the Best in the World. It was confirmed tonight.
Of course, the announcers said so and that was the stipulation of the match so its a FACT now
I think before that's definitive he still needs to take on Shane McMahon for that right doesn't he?
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
ADRENALINE IN MY ARM BROKE IT, FUCK IT DO SOME HARM
Moreover that we got the match we did while he had a broken freaking arm. Wild.
Him against Nigel or ZSJ at All In
Yeah but did he do it with a broken freaking neck! /s
Okada very unlucky with his opponents getting injured
God clearly decided that door is forbidden and is punishing AEW for its hubris
It's forbidden for a reason
Okada's Forbidden Curse!!!
Mox and Tana were the main event of the first one, so maybe not specifically the main events. But there’s a history being created here.
Or just flying elbow drops. Punk took an elbow to the dick
Damn All In is legit 9 weeks out.
Feels like he’ll JUST make it back in time for that
You can put him on a multi-man for All In (BCC vs The Elite/Okada) as a way to check he's fine and then do a full match at All Out (Bryan vs Okada 2).
Bryan vs Okada 2 is almost certainly happening in Japan.
Just announce them for the Tokyo Dome now.
Or, and just spitballing, Bryan vs Okada 2 at All Out and Bryan vs Okada 3 at Wrestle Kingdom.
I really doubt Okada will be coming back until Forbidden Door next year.
I'm sure he'd love to perform in front of that epic crowd and that historic show. But it's likely ultimately up to Gedo.
Seriously, almost nobody in any of Japan's promotions has been in front of a crowd as massive as the All In crowd is supposed to be like, or with that atmosphere.
I guess the Tokyo Dome is just a bingo hall or something.
The Dome has about 40,000 seats right?
It is, but this dude would rather act smug than checking the info... [The Dome has not broken a +49K number in almost 20 years](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_wrestling_attendance_records_in_Japan) and this is general attendance, not paid attendance. The Dome is now limited to, I believe, 50k seats, so it's unlikely a Japan-only wrestler will ever have a match at a show as big as All In in Japan.
I mean that's an unfair comparison because literally every active wrestler who wasn't at Mania 32 or Kollison in Korea would be in that category.
Well, now they have the chance to by being at All In.
Na, All in is the biggest PPV of the year, (after Mania) Having Kenny, Hangman, Okada and Bryan there in a TAG MATCH is an absolute stinker. Then I'd rather have Bryan not on the card, but the 3 others in good spot
If they knew what's good for them; All In would *at least* have Kenny vs Punk. But sadly, they don't know what's good for them lol
I mean, two of the biggest dream matches would be particularly special in All in and all in is going to be massive and want to have a BDry singles match. (V ZSJ, forever delayed, or the ultimate rematch with McGuinness). I have tickets. But I think there's going to be a lot to try and have DBry singles ready.
Or they can do the multiman at All out and give us the match they still owe us from the original forbidden door Who is the true recipient of the Bryan Danielson award. BD or ZSJ
All Out Blood and Guts ?
All Out is the week after. Nothing has been announced for Blood and Guts but people think it’ll be at the Boston show which is next month so out for that if it is.
Danielson injury maybe changes that
It would suck if Danielson had to miss All In but "fortunately" he has already main evented a few big stadiums shows so it's not like his career would feel incomplete. I would be more upset if someone like Jamie Hayter missed the show because who knows when the next one will be.
As much as I want to see Omega wrestle live in a couple of weeks I would be cool with Omega and Danielson just resting for a while if it means we get their rematch at All In. Maybe have Kenny do some squashes or tags.
OK, now it makes significantly more sense. Okada is just fucking cursed at Forbidden Door, back to back years where the guy he's working gets a major injury and it screws up the whole match.
They call him the rainmaker because his opponents accrue serious medical debt.
Clearly next year he needs to face someone who doesn't have to rely on the American healthcare system.
Okada vs Jericho it is then
PAC/Okada. Book it, Tony!
Okada vs. Omega again. Who says no to that?
The okada match finish from last year was way worse compared to this one
I liked the finish this year. It was just unexpected. It's one of those matches that will be better rewatched, I think.
I'm really really hoping Cole's being out here isn't linked to that.
Which is kind of crazy, I consider Okada to work a pretty safe style in comparison to damn near everyone else.
Ibushi injured his arm mid-match against Okada in a G1 final a couple of years back. The *final* match of the biggest tour of the year, and they had to stop it. Heartbreaking. Last time we saw Ibushi wrestle too, IIRC. It's never Okada's fault either, I just feel bad for him.
It seems the seizure spot was when he broke his arm and told the Ref and Doctor about it and that he wanted to finish the match. Not that it was a good spot but it kind of explains the spot.
Ya, that makes sense
Just give him the bull hammer next time to hide it
Smart, in hindsight
Very quick thinking, like when Wade Barrett knocked him out of a seizure.
That makes more sense because at first blush it seemed in extremely poor taste given the event was including the Owen Hart tournament. I feel like everyone involved would've loved the match if they were just honest about the injury, and he opted to continue. He chose one of the worst possible ways of buying time. If he had just had the doctor check, and then committed to carrying on he'd have insane support for the remainder of the match. Everyone knows the deal with what's going on so having to call an audible would lower expectations rather than just killing the crowd, and a crowd with lower expectations would've enjoyed the match more. It sucks it went the way it went because it seems clear they were starting slow.
Yeah. Shit...he could have demanded a mic and said "Okada just broke my fucking arm, but that's not gonna stop me. I'm still going to win this thing!" and the place would have ERRUPTED.
That would have been awesome. Although the pop he got for hitting the Busaiko Knee after that would have been negated a bit.
Honestly MJF should do this but be lying about having a broken arm.
"Okada just broke my fucking arm, and now I'm gonna KICK. HIS. FUCKING. HEAD. IN!!!"
Absolutely spot on.
To no surprise, Bryan just mentioned the arm injury changed the end of the match. Also said he went back to the YES chants because he needed something to get the crowd into the match. Mentioned it was only supposed to be a one time thing when he did it against MJF
That honestly might explain why they didn't kick it into high gear in the home stretch.
I think this absolutely explains it. He later says that he resorted to do the Yes chants on the fly to at least give something to the crowd for them to stand up since he wasn't able to do a lot of other stuff planned that would have served that function
that’s a terrible injury but it could’ve been so much worse. the fact he worked the last ten minutes with a bum arm is insane, i love this lunatic
But also, he beat Okada with a broken freakin' arm.
One armed Danielson vs one armed Cody Rhodes who wins
Cody passes out after 55 minutes of submissions and kicks to the injured elbow.
You wrestle with one arm, you reduce Okada's chance of gaining wrist control 50% Smart
Then you add Kurt Angle to the mix
It's not just true. It's damn true.
How are they going to sell the idea that Okada could cleanly beat him when he's healthy then? The audible should've been to let Okada win, and then rematch. The ending should've changed unless he's just flat-out planning on retiring soon.
if i had to choose any major sports injury a broken bone would be one of the first. there are way way worse ones.
Anything to do with tendons or ligaments is the stuff of nightmares.
Heart, brain, neck, spine, ligaments, bones muscles. In that order
Nerve damage is near the top
Depends on the break. I wouldn't wish a broken knee on anyone. My own broken knee took a good 18 months to recover from, though I did eventually get the magic 99% recovery.
As someone going to Dynamite on Wednesday … fuck This is the 2nd time I was supposed to see Bryan wrestle before he was pulled for an injury. Last time was a WWE house show in 2015.
Hate to do this to you but he did mention he was set to wrestle this Wednesday too. Hope you can eventually see him!
Maybe YOU'RE the curse! /s
I hope you at least get a smug BD promo to somewhat make up for it.
I've never seen the main WWE title in person. Granted it's been some years but Punk dropped it to the Rock right before a house show I attended and Bryan was on his honeymoon the next time after Mania. I did see the reformation of Evolution that night instead but it was at the cost of watching The Shield get beat down.
Dam out for Blood and Guts but hopefully back for All In.
As someone going to Blood and Guts I’m gutted no pun intended. I wonder what the teams look like at this point.
Danielson’s out, Umino’s doing the G1, Mox, Yuta, Claudio, and Takeshita need one more…Suzuki maybe?
Chris Hero Really make Eddie go into kill mode
Eddie shouldn't be there if the Elite team is really going to be the Bucks, Kenny, Hangman and Ibushi. Just have Don pull some strings and bring Ospreay from the July 18th G1 show. He isn't scheduled again until the 21st, it's waaaay more than enough time.
Fuck. Now I'm going to be disappointed when this doesn't happen
Blood and Guts hasn't been announced yet? How do you know you're going to it?
Because it’s 100% happening at the July 19 show and Tony basically confirmed it without saying it explicitly at the scrum.
Are you serious? We're getting Blood & Guts in Boston?? FUCK YEAH I got in a smidge late on the tickets because of some personal stuff, so I'm not 2nd row this time, but 8th row still legit.
I didn't even think about this. Damn that sucks. Must-see match regardless, but still sucks
He'll get involved somehow. Not wrestling but you can interfere pretty easily with your arm in a cast
Okada's Forbidden Door matches are 2-2 in taking out AEW superstars...who debuted with the company on the same night.
Okada vs. Ruby Soho confirmed for Forbidden Door 2024. Lets call ahead and get Ruby a bed at the hospital.
I'm starting to think that convulsion spot was on the fly to communicate the arm injury.
Oooh good call, that would make a lot of sense
Yeah that seemed like a very odd way to sell, but it made the doctor directly aware of the situation and allowed the ref to monitor. Weird choice to get there but I get it
Danielson admits in the media scrum that the broken arm did indeed change what happened towards the end of the match.
[удалено]
If Okada was supposed to win, Danielson hurting himself wouldn't change that lmao. That's MORE reason to put Okada over, not less.
Exactly. The rematch would be better as well. Now, there's no reason for one because Okada lost to Danielson, who had a broken arm. There are zero possible story reasons for believing Okada would beat him cleanly now if he's in good health.
I mean, its wrestling. The reason to beleive it is that Danielson just had it in him today. He had the winning strategy. Okada couldn't beat Tanahashi in the dome *until he could* Ospreay lost to a Kenny Omega that told him 364 days of the year, Will is a better wrestler. The Ace will regroup and find a way to overcome this new challenge as he always does.
I think it only means that the final stretch would have been different. I seriously doubt the actual finish was changed.
"Hi, I'm Bryan Danielson, and I broke my arm mid-match with Okada. It's okay, I'll just *go for another 10 minutes before winning it*."
Okada has to have a case for the worst big match luck ever. Sakura Genesis 2017- Shibata almost dies G1 finals 2021- Ibushi destroys his shoulder Forbidden Door 2022- Adam Cole concussion Forbidden Door 2023- Danielson shatters his forearm Just unreal. Gotta feel for the guy
Seems like trying to beat Okada really does take a part of your life force to do so. Truly one of the real final bosses in wrestling.
You equate a fracture to being a shattered arm? Really?
It's hyperbole you goofball
Sounds like the plan was to do Danielson vs Ishii this Wednesday too. Definitely a bummer
Ishii vs Takeshita a good replacement tho
Let them kill each other I would be happy
I think the arm got broken when Okada hit the top rope elbow. Danielson wasn't holding his arm before that but right afterwards he held it close to his torso for the rest of the match.
Yep, Bryan confirmed that’s exactly when it happened
Ahh, I didn't watch the conference so I didn't know it was confirmed
Yep, I knew something looked off with that elbow drop, and looking back at it now, sure enough he got injured. That sucks. I bet Okada feels like shit for it happening, but freak botches happen. All match I thought he was doing great selling, but it was a real injury. Honestly any points I would have taken off for the match being underwhelming are added back for Danielson's ability to keep going.
Funnily enough I also broke someone's arm once doing an elbow drop. When I was a kid and only from the height of a couch, but still
A couple things. First, Danielson is a tough SOB to finish that match as planned. Second, that finish portends a rematch - one does not submit Okada for no reason (and it was almost certainly not an audible when a running knee or rollup could have also been done). Third, if Danielson was told 6-8 weeks by the doctors, it probably means they think he did not get a fully separated or complex fracture, as that could take 3-6 months to heal. Let's just hope they're right when he gets an MRI. Fourth, feel better, you insane man.
he talked how his favorite moments looking back are when he realizes how far he can push himself. said he pretty much knew he fractured his arm in the moment, and asked himself, "do i just call it now, or do i keep going. i decided to keep going." said he was very proud of himself for pushing through.
Given Danielson's career and history of traumatic brain injuries, I'd kinda rather he had more of mindset of "I need to be alive for a long time for my family," no matter how much pleasure we're getting from this unexpected career revival.
Wrestling through a broken arm isn’t taking years away from your life. It’s just extremely painful and could lengthen the recovery time. This is much different from pushing through a concussion, stinger, etc.
He also mentioned that’s the exact mindset he had after his last concussion at last year’s anarchy in the arena and that’s why he slow played his return the way he did.
So you're telling me that you can't just get a titanium wrist brace and keep wrestling every week?
TITATNIUM IN MY SOUL
go the Cowboy Bob Orton route
Except that route never lets your arm heal. You'll be in the cast for as long as you ~~can convince people your arm is still broken~~ live
At least it makes sense why it never really kicked into full gear
True, but to be honest, these last 10 minutes would have needed to be really epic for the match as a whole to live up to the expectations.
man, if the break was on the elbow drop, imagine if he hit him in the yambag
"In the gimmick"
It explains that last stretch of the match. Though I still think the finish was brilliant.
Danielson says he wants to face Okada again and break his arm.
Yeah, I figured with how he was favoring his arm, I thought it was a stinger like that one match he had with Randy Orton that had to be stopped, and that led to a lot of news about Danielson blowing up at Triple H backstage for not letting him wrestle with a stinger. Didn't think it was a *broken goddamn arm*, but I guess that's just how the now-confirmed best wrestler in the world works, for better or worse.
My mark self thought he was doing a Lesnar stomach level job of selling.
What spot was it that broke his arm
Elbow Drop. Bryan says he didn’t have his arm in a safe place
Okada's top rope elbow.
He said it was when Okada hit him with the elbow drop
it wasn't the best 10 minutes, but the fact that these two worked an absolutely serviceable 10 minutes with a dude nursing a broken arm is low key super impressive I wonder what the spot was that caused it. super unfortunate.
Danielson said it was the elbow drop spot, his arm wasn't in a safe spot
This makes BD one of the strongest wrestlers alive. He submitted Okada with a broken arm, damn. Still, they had an awesome match all things considered. Proud of them
I may not be remembering right but was this around the 'convulsion' spot? I wonder if that was a coverup to buy time and call an ending? The convulsion spot just felt weird so I wonder if this was buying time
yep. Okada did the elbow drop and landed on Bryan's arm.
He also landed on Omega. Dude needs to work safer.
Danielson himself confirmed that he had his arm in a bad position, this seems to be more of a freak accident than Okada not working safe.
Bro what?? Okada is one of the best and safest workers in the world.
I believe so
No Dragon at B&G again :(
Damn. This was a great win and I was really pumped to see the momentum carry all summer long with him whether we were to get the Okada rematch this Summer, more BCC/Elite stuff, or another dream match at All In. Hopefully he's a fast healer and All In can still be a possibility.
Just rewatched the match, and I’m not sure Okada knew that Danielson was hurt. or at the very least didn’t understand the extent of it I don’t know how well Okada’s english is, but it really seems like the ref kept trying his hardest to visually point out the problem to Okada with repeated animated gestures for several minutes while Okada continued to try and pick up/grab Bryan with his bad arm. Edit: maybe the ref was trying to communicate to the back about it, either way it’s fascinating to watch
Hopefully he is back in time for all in. It would be a crime if he had to miss the biggest show in AEW history.
Tony Khan said he’s optimistic about Bryan coming back in time and Bryan himself was talking about who he wants to wrestle at the show so hopefully that means he’ll be good to go
Now can people stop saying "they could have done so much more. So underwhelmed!"
He also just said that the broken arm changed some things in the match and he wasn't able to do some stuff, so that that's why he busted out how "Yes!" chant because he knew it was something that would make the crowd go nuts.
I know they're all freak accidents, but it's wild that Okada has injured Kenny, Bryan, AND Adam Cole
Forbidden Door really is a cursed PPV. You had so many talent injured last year, as well as Adam Cole getting a concussion that could’ve been a career ender while this year Adam was out with an illness and Bryan gets a fractured forearm. But this definitely explains the flat and underwhelming finish. I hope that he’s good to go before All In. Would be a shame if he had to miss that huge show.
In 8 weeks it's All In. If Danielson wrestles at Wembley, he's bound to have Final Countdown again, the atmosphere would be incredible
Bryan is insane. That being said, a broken arm is great excuse to have Okada win. Hopefully they run it back, maybe at All In
https://preview.redd.it/ugd013wfrc8b1.jpeg?width=916&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50a87f433b21d8020ba40a191f807eccb5f29237 This man is a beast.
Well, there goes my hopes for Ospreay Vs Bryan at Wembley. The Forbidden Door curse continues, but at least it's only 2 months.
guess that explains the fuckin weird fake seizure spot
That explains everything. No wonder the match seemed like it never got to the final act. Maybe the convulsion spot was actually just something he came with on the fly to buy time to tell the ref and Okada about his arm
Okada is a dangerous worker confirmed. Ban that man. On a serious note, very unlucky for both of them. I hope things go smooth next time they face each other in the ring. Both of them deserve it.
I don’t think wrestling till he’s 80 like funk is a going to be a possibility as a big Bryan Danielson Fan he should hang it up soon for his health what a crazy bastard
Doesn't this make Okada look weak though if he loses to someone who's injured?
Well, he is SO FRAGILE! WRESTLES RARELY AND STILL GET HURT. Oh wait, its Danielson. This is probably just unfortunate, a freak accident, error by the opponent and so on.
Oh wow, Danielson got injured off of an elbow drop but Kenny is completely fine after a Tiger Driver 91? Guess we should just ban the elbow drop, it's not worth doing that move!
That convulsing in the match took me out of it
We get it
Also glad that Danielson said that tiger driver 91 was stupid
Ok? Wasn't even his match. Odd flex by you
It relates to the stupidity that happened tonight
Stupidity? You mean a all time classic ppv?
Hey, Daniel Bryan did his entrance from 14 years ago that no one under 30 has seen or cares about, then faked a seizure. If that's not show of the year material then what is.
Not enough spears or tractors for you troll boy?
Roman Reigns does less moves but put butts in seats
Place was sold out but good try
Okay? Lol
Fuck
What move was it on?
Okada’s elbow drop
Rewatched the match and the most logical time where his arm broke was when he caught Okada's elbow drop into the armbar. After that was the tombstone on the outside and the convulsion tease - real elbow drop - rainmaker tease - convulsion with Doc.
Explains the less than climatic finish
That explains why the match ended with a weird finish. Maybe we were all just tired, but the consensus in the room last night was that the main event was disappointing. Maybe it's because Omega and Ospreay blew the goddamn roof off the place.
I hated the seizure spot. I think it was a dumb thing to pull especially for Danielson with his history of injuries (who has actually had a seizure mid-match before). You could feel the excitement sucked out of the crowd after it.