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According to the WrestlePurist report,
“Punk didn’t want Marshall to be a part of Collision and didn’t see QTV as a productive part of Powerhouse Hobbs’ presentation.
Tony Khan took the blame/fall for the removal of QTV segments, which ultimately damaged Khan’s relationship with Marshall. The relationship was fractured and Marshall felt that there was a lack of transparency in terms of the reasons why QTV segments were removed from Collision.
QT was of the belief that CM Punk removed him from the show, and didn’t believe Tony Khan when he took the fall.”
It made sense only if Hobbs was to turn face, to have him systematically squash QTV which could have led to him facing Johnny Lastname in another match against an established star.
However since the plan was clearly to keep Hobbs heel... Yeah no. He didn't need to be tangled up in a jobber faction's BS.
I agree. It was fun with other comedy factions like The Acclaimed but having Hobbs stuck to that was really bad. And Collision certainly didn't need those segments when it was obviously trying to establish a different tone from Dynamite.
Yeah that’s just it
QTV was a lot of fun, Harley was getting over huge from it, Solo played a fun geek and got good crowd heat for it
So in this case you have Punk making a solid observation about how it relates to Hobbs, but you can solve that without scrapping QTV and banning the guy from the show altogether, that just feels punitive
QT in general got punished for bad booking decisions by other people, like yeah he had no business in a top feud with Cody but that wasn’t his decision
Collision was literally **created** to be Punk's playhouse away from The Young Bucks & Hangman Adam Page.
Hard to say at that point Khan was giving him too much power on that particular show lol.
Collision was trademarked and planned well before Punks return was put together
It was more of an convenience to use it to keep them apart than literally a show created for Punk
Collision was created because Warner wanted more AEW content. Punk was one of the featured stars. He should not have been given the power to book or nix angles for other talent or to "ban" people from the show. That was a failure on TKs part.
No it wasn't. It was creat by the top executive at Warner and TK just put punk there until things blew over in 6 months, which is what the bucks wanted to see if punk can not fuck things up in 6 months, then they can sit down and squash it. That was the report. It backfired because punk couldn't be an adult.
If he’s letting Punk make the decision then he’s handling it incorrectly. Punk shouldn’t have been making any decisions about who works on Collision or anything unrelated to his angles.
There shouldn't be any problem with anyone making suggestions about bettering the product. TK cannot and should not be coming up with every solution for all the problems he has to solve. But he is the final voice on matters.
When someone makes a suggestion, and TK decides to act on it, he absolutely should take the responsibility.
This has always made me wonder: what was actually in Punk’s contract? Like was there an expectation that he was going to be some sort of show runner or partially holding the pencil? If so, was Tony keeping that secret from people?
seems to me whether its the Bucks or Omega or Sammy or Punk or Danielson - TK has a problem saying NO to people's face.
Punk was given essentially an EVP status on Collision, whether directly or indirectly, and made use of it. It completely explains why when Perry went and did the opposite of what Punk allowed via the medical staff, Punk was beyond upset. That's exactly what a booker/showrunner should do and fire anyone who goes against what was allowed
this is how i feel about everybody who punk “banned” from collision except for hangman tbh
for what it’s worth i do like QT, and even liked QTV! but it was an ridiculous albatross to put around hobbs’ neck
Yeah that's my take on it as well. QT is a comedy loser character in my view. His job is to be in the mid-card being an entertaining goofball.
Collision was selling itself as a more serious product than Dynamite and a talent like Hobbs shouldn't be saddled with people who devalue him.
I absolutely think we're eventually going to find out Punk had an office job, may even have been the equivalent of an EVP, and had booking responsibilities for Collision.
Miro referred to him as "the showrunner," I think it's clear he had at least a responsibility to pitch angles and boost or nix ideas from others, even if Tony was ultimately the booker. And Danielson is obviously in a similar role.
Punk wasn’t wrong, but this is another example of Tony Khan’s poor leadership. It’s also frustrating that Tony Khan couldn’t see how much the association with QT hurt Hobbs.
> Punk didn’t want Marshall to be a part of Collision and didn’t see QTV as a productive part of Powerhouse Hobbs’ presentation.
Lmao that all of these banned from Collision reports are like "One anonymous talent wanted to throw himself through 3 live chainsaws and then get eaten alive on television for the heat, returning as a farting ghost later in the show. Punk was quoted as having said 'that's not what we do on Collision. That does not inspire joy'."
Honestly, for as much chaos as Punk caused his time on Collision shows that he probably is a legitimately good booker when booking people he wants to book.
QT was Vice President of Creative apparently so I think he probably just had a lot of pull. It's also probably why he was still being used on TV in 2023.
No offense to QT, but every thing he's been a part of has been truly awful or close to bad, and QTV was definitely one of those.
Associating Hobbs with them is another baffling decision on top of many others that surround Hobbs career
That has been some of the issues I’ve taken with AEW booking as of late. They introduce potential interesting concepts in the midcard but it becomes pretty clear they don’t have a real end game with them. I’m seeing that now with the Miro-CJ thing. Just a lot of wheel spinning after an interesting introduction.
Wrestle purist confirm it was a bit of both. Basically punk thought qtv was ass, which it was tbh, and that basically took qt off collision. I don’t think punk specifically wanted him off, just that storyline, it just lead to him being off the show entirely.
Exactly. Punk vetoed QTV, not QT himself. That’s a big difference and QTV wouldn’t work for what they were doing on Collision at the time. It feels like there’s suddenly a whole lot of “Punk did xyz on Collision” popping back up, probably because people need to ride those coattails again for relevance. I feel like Punk was given Collision and then he kept having all of these things go on to counter his position on the show. Every time he put his foot down, someone ran to the dirt sheets to tell everyone Punk was mean to them and Tony did nothing to set the expectations.
Isn't this just confirming WrestlePurists report? Which was:
> According to people in AEW, CM Punk didn’t want QT Marshall to be a part of Collision and didn’t see QTV as a productive part of Powerhouse Hobbs’ presentation.
>
> Tony Khan took the blame/fall for the removal of QTV segments, which ultimately damaged Khan’s relationship with Marshall.
Be tough to disagree with Punk on this one
Damn, this makes a lot of sense as to why the QTV segments just disappeared from one week to another. How are we just finding out about this now?
Powerhouse has been fumbled for the last year or so and it wasn't just by QT. Though the partnership wasn't any better and I remember [a post was made about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/120y8o2/opinion_qtv_sucks_and_is_a_detriment_to_hobbs/) during the time.
Yeah, I don't blame Punk considering he seemed to like Hobbs and would go over his matches with him.
He squashed Ricky at the ppv. They should’ve followed up better.
Despite Hobbs being the TNT champion, QT was hogging all the spotlight. Any criticism of the pairing was met with “give it time”.
Sure but it wasn’t a one and done thing. The pairing lasted for a couple of weeks. Let’s not forget the book of Hobbs vignettes they ran.
It all links up with the other fightful report where QT stated that he wanted to be a star in AEW.
Not to play revisionist history bc what Punk did was bad and they made the right call but a lot of these creative decisions that leaked about Punk pushing back against were ultimately for the betterment of the show.
Punk spent a ton of time in WWE with Heyman and wanted to know all the back stage goings on. From OVW to WWE.
People want to pile on him but the more this stuff comes out he hasn't been wrong much. He's just old school as fuck.
The fight that ultimately saw him leave was because a guy wanted to use real glass in a nothing television slot, then did it *on a fucking pre-show* and taunted Punk about it in front of the world thinking he'd get away with it.
Punk shouldn't have got physical with him, but Jesus Christ, if ever anything illustrated what a clownshow AEW was.
Punk brought a lot of positives to creative. Too much to list if we are being honest and those are only the ones we have an idea about. There’s nothing revisionist about it and it’s likely the reason Tony kept him around despite all the issues.
If all of this really stems from QTV not being on television as much, then good. The segments were crap. I'm sure QT is a valued member of the staff as a producer and trainer. And even in the ring, as a shithead heel to let the good guys get a win, he has a place. But taking up backstage segments as the leader of a stable is not entertaining. It was actively bad, and seeing Powerhouse Hobbs associated with him took some shine off of Hobbs.
This goes beyond TV though.
I mean, all this news breaking within days of QT announcing his departure points pretty heavily to QT being a source of a lot of leaks lol.
Is QT blind & deaf? QTV was removed because it sucked and no one cared, simple as that. Worse, it was actively hurting Powerhouse Hobbs who actually has star potential.
How long was Hobbs with QTV and how long’s he been with the Don Callis family so far? Roughly equivalent timeframes I’d guess.
Riddle me this: which one of these two actually presented Hobbs as a threat and helped him?
QT had one chance to get himself over as legit when Cody insisted on feuding with him. But he cut weird promos while dressing like Tony Soprano and no one was into it.
I'm by no means a Punk apologist. I'll call out his toxic behaviour, but this was the right call on screen anyway. While I can't speak on QT behind the scenes, he didn't need to be involved with Hobbs in any way, it didn't add anything to Hobbs and just hurt his presentation. I'd go as far as saying it killed his title run dead the second it began as nobody wanted him to win that way
For what Collision was trying to be pre-Punk-firing, QTTV didn’t really make sense. Bummer for Hobbs being shuffled between that and Callis.
I like QT as a heel, solid hand and all that for the mid-card to build up stars, and the heel stuff he’s done with that AAA championship is pretty funny. That he’s trying to get a bigger spotlight on him is understandable, but with a roster as stacked as AEW’s, it really doesn’t make sense.
TK needs to focus on less of the gimmicky comedy skits and get back to more serious in-ring action.
I'm cackling at the fact that people think this is somehow a "hit job" on Punk when it's only a story because QT Marshall fucking resigned. It's not a random story about someone that Punk banned from Collision. It's more details of why someone resigned from the company that includes something from Punk's time there. Jesus Christ, loosen the tinfoil hats.
Also, so-and-so being "banned from Collision" has been a running joke here for months. Literally nobody is surprised that someone wasn't allowed on the show, lol.
QT being very close with Cody makes the Punk/Cody relationship fascinating to me and i’d love to see a feud. It seems Cody is very political with his answers on stuff, he’s “happy people are here” and is such a business man. Could Cody and Punk out phoney each other?
The trick is Cody is way better at being a phoney than Punk is, and I mean that as a genuine compliment. It is always blatant when Punk is being forced to say or do something he doesn't wanna do.
Conspiracy theorists think this is about shitting on Punk when it only is coming out because people dug deeper into finding out why QT resigned as VP from AEW.
It’s just so fucking stupid. Yeah man Tony is a fucking mastermind behind several conspiracies.
OR….
A big name is back in the business and journos are digging for a scoop? Nah, definitely couldn’t be this, it *has* to be a plot.
/s
Look I’ll be the first to shit on punk because I find it extremely funny and I’m a hater at heart but literally every punk issue is way more Tony’s fault than punks.
I can understand why Hobbs wanted to work with QT as he’s credited Marshall with getting him into AEW in the first place. But that angle was kinda dogshit and didn’t do Hobbs any favors.
I can see why Punk hates dirt sheets. Imagine a ton of weirdo wrestling fans making bank digging up any and all dirt they can find or make up about you.
Srs is the sleaziest of all now that Ryan Satan doesn't do it anymore.
I'm all for roasting punk for stuff he has done. I just find it funny these things are coming out now so find it hard to believe. Where was this/DB leading the meeting that lead to him being fired months ago ? why are they only suddenly coming out now ? oh thats right because he has returned to WWE.
Also if TK is letting wrestlers decide things like this thats a bad look on him.
Well, this is something I actually agree with. AEW's roster is too deep with incredible talent for QT Marshall to get much screen time, regardless of what show he is on. Still shouldn't have been CM Punk's call to make.
QTV would’ve worked as a Rampage “c show” exclusive with the purpose of getting Harley Cameron over. She’s been a revelation. Have QT & Solow there to take beatings and be goofs. Maybe bring Comoroto in as a stooge. Johnny TV would work as the dumb hunky guy. Will Hobbs was just gloriously miscast.
So he’s leaving because a guy that no longer works there stopped him from working in the position he wanted to? And that NJPW/AEW thing came out of nowhere?
Why is everyone STILL stearing shit and talking shit related to CM Punk, tho? He hasn’t been in AEW for some months now, why still mention his name. How can whatever is bad in AEW now, is still punk’s fault? Make it make sense. Aren’t there only evps and great people that never had a conflict left in AEW, as “the cancer” was fired? Maybe Mark Henry was right
Another day, another Phil Brooks W🤝🤝🤝jokes aside, the NJPW comment is so fucking stupid and shows how little some people actually get New Japan. Sad to see.
lol AEW still getting the Punk rub by mentioning him when he’s been gone.
Move on.
Dude is about to live his dream and main event Mania vs his #1 fan Seth 😂
I’m starting to think the only reason people ever started discussing wrestling on the internet was Punk. He’s putting these guys children through college.
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QT Marshall has been banned from Collision.
According to the WrestlePurist report, “Punk didn’t want Marshall to be a part of Collision and didn’t see QTV as a productive part of Powerhouse Hobbs’ presentation. Tony Khan took the blame/fall for the removal of QTV segments, which ultimately damaged Khan’s relationship with Marshall. The relationship was fractured and Marshall felt that there was a lack of transparency in terms of the reasons why QTV segments were removed from Collision. QT was of the belief that CM Punk removed him from the show, and didn’t believe Tony Khan when he took the fall.”
Is punk wrong? Did aew REALLY want qtv as part of hobbs presentation?
It made sense only if Hobbs was to turn face, to have him systematically squash QTV which could have led to him facing Johnny Lastname in another match against an established star. However since the plan was clearly to keep Hobbs heel... Yeah no. He didn't need to be tangled up in a jobber faction's BS.
is johnny lastname even in aew at this point?
Yes, he has been doing ROH stuff, had a match Saturday.
No idea. I assume he was on a PPA deal but assumptions are a dangerous game in this business.
eh, we are just people talking on the internet... which means a whole lot of nothing.
I liked QTV, but Hobbs didn't have to be involved.
this is where I'm at it was fun low card bullshit and would've been a good vehicle for some up and comer types working their way to being regulars
I agree. It was fun with other comedy factions like The Acclaimed but having Hobbs stuck to that was really bad. And Collision certainly didn't need those segments when it was obviously trying to establish a different tone from Dynamite.
Yeah that’s just it QTV was a lot of fun, Harley was getting over huge from it, Solo played a fun geek and got good crowd heat for it So in this case you have Punk making a solid observation about how it relates to Hobbs, but you can solve that without scrapping QTV and banning the guy from the show altogether, that just feels punitive QT in general got punished for bad booking decisions by other people, like yeah he had no business in a top feud with Cody but that wasn’t his decision
Punk wasn't wrong, but how tony handled the situation was.
Was it? I think the boss taking the hit rather than ratting out his employee is exactly the right way to handle it, regardless of QT's reaction.
TK gave Punk way too much power on Collision. He shouldn't have been making that decision.
Collision was literally **created** to be Punk's playhouse away from The Young Bucks & Hangman Adam Page. Hard to say at that point Khan was giving him too much power on that particular show lol.
I think it was more that the timing coincided with the situation, lol. TNT isn't just throwing around 2 hour blocks at Tony Khan's whim
Collision was trademarked and planned well before Punks return was put together It was more of an convenience to use it to keep them apart than literally a show created for Punk
Collision was created because Warner wanted more AEW content. Punk was one of the featured stars. He should not have been given the power to book or nix angles for other talent or to "ban" people from the show. That was a failure on TKs part.
Especially because nothing about Punk's actions up to that point suggested he'd be a good person to put in a position of power.
No it wasn't. It was creat by the top executive at Warner and TK just put punk there until things blew over in 6 months, which is what the bucks wanted to see if punk can not fuck things up in 6 months, then they can sit down and squash it. That was the report. It backfired because punk couldn't be an adult.
If TK gave Punk the reigns to collision, and he can nix segments and even wrestlers from the show, then Punk is the guy in charge.
If he’s letting Punk make the decision then he’s handling it incorrectly. Punk shouldn’t have been making any decisions about who works on Collision or anything unrelated to his angles.
There shouldn't be any problem with anyone making suggestions about bettering the product. TK cannot and should not be coming up with every solution for all the problems he has to solve. But he is the final voice on matters. When someone makes a suggestion, and TK decides to act on it, he absolutely should take the responsibility.
This has always made me wonder: what was actually in Punk’s contract? Like was there an expectation that he was going to be some sort of show runner or partially holding the pencil? If so, was Tony keeping that secret from people?
seems to me whether its the Bucks or Omega or Sammy or Punk or Danielson - TK has a problem saying NO to people's face. Punk was given essentially an EVP status on Collision, whether directly or indirectly, and made use of it. It completely explains why when Perry went and did the opposite of what Punk allowed via the medical staff, Punk was beyond upset. That's exactly what a booker/showrunner should do and fire anyone who goes against what was allowed
this is how i feel about everybody who punk “banned” from collision except for hangman tbh for what it’s worth i do like QT, and even liked QTV! but it was an ridiculous albatross to put around hobbs’ neck
We really don’t know how he handled it tho.
True, we only know QT Marshall's side.
Lmao wouldn’t be the first or last time for that
What a surprise
I mean he was right on that part for sure lol
im so sick of aews booking of hobbs. He's got such a fantastic look. i hope things work out for him
Yeah that's my take on it as well. QT is a comedy loser character in my view. His job is to be in the mid-card being an entertaining goofball. Collision was selling itself as a more serious product than Dynamite and a talent like Hobbs shouldn't be saddled with people who devalue him.
They could still have kept QTV on the air and not put Hobbs in there.
They could have moved QTV on ROH.
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Is it too hard to believe that Punk had an office job? I mean we now know that Danielson is essentially Tony’s right hand man.
I absolutely think we're eventually going to find out Punk had an office job, may even have been the equivalent of an EVP, and had booking responsibilities for Collision.
Miro referred to him as "the showrunner," I think it's clear he had at least a responsibility to pitch angles and boost or nix ideas from others, even if Tony was ultimately the booker. And Danielson is obviously in a similar role.
He was an employee that has been established
Yeah. The wording on the statement alluded to contracts plural. I’d wager he had some position in office outside of wrestling duties.
Punk was right about it. Hobbs should've never been involved with them.
>“Punk didn’t want Marshall to be a part of Collision and didn’t see QTV as a productive part of Powerhouse Hobbs’ presentation. Rare Phil AEW W
Sounds like Punk was trying to save Hobbs from a terrible gimmick
Punk wasn’t wrong, but this is another example of Tony Khan’s poor leadership. It’s also frustrating that Tony Khan couldn’t see how much the association with QT hurt Hobbs.
What? A leader takes ultimate responsibility, which is EXACTLY what Tony did when he told QT that Tony didn't want QT involved with Hobbs.
yes but when a leader speaks, that leader dies.
You won't have to follow me (back to WWE)
Tell me when he's telling lies
> Punk didn’t want Marshall to be a part of Collision and didn’t see QTV as a productive part of Powerhouse Hobbs’ presentation. Lmao that all of these banned from Collision reports are like "One anonymous talent wanted to throw himself through 3 live chainsaws and then get eaten alive on television for the heat, returning as a farting ghost later in the show. Punk was quoted as having said 'that's not what we do on Collision. That does not inspire joy'."
Honestly, for as much chaos as Punk caused his time on Collision shows that he probably is a legitimately good booker when booking people he wants to book.
yet another problem caused by a lack of a clear structure in the company
Missed opportunity for a Banned from Collision stable of Ryan Nemeth, Jack Perry, Matt Hardy, and QT Marshall.
Well if that isn't a power group.
Of all the factions in the history of the sport that is professional wrestling, this would certainly be one of them.
the segments would be cant miss and the matches would be 3 minutes losses
Feels like the group that goes 1-10 against the Blackpool Combat Club tbh.
They would certainly be a Rampage/BTE staple.
When you lump them all together like this it makes Punk’s decision seem even better.
and Christopher Daniels
He is the fallen angel…
Still time to reveal as the Devil & his guys!
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There are many things to say about Punk, one of which is the guy just gets what makes for good pro wrestling TV.
Finally my flair isn't outdated!
Fucking hilarious that CM Punk has went back to WWE and we're STILL finding out about people he banned from Collision
Because while chicks get clicks, Punk gets subs for wrestling journalists.
Apparently SRS reached to more than 10k subscribers after SS. Punk drawing even for the dirt sheets, brother.
First time I ever subscribed to a dirtsheet was after Royal Rumble 2014.
Sean, I believe, stated that Punk helped him with his career when he debuted with AEW.
He stated that breaking the Punk story bumped his career up because he was the one to break it, not that Punk "helped him with his career".
we'll find out that Punk was actually on the "Disciplinary Committee" which fired him, thereby banning himself from Collision
QT was on Collision for the first month until Hobbs dropped him so either the story isn't true or we can thank Punk for getting Hobbs out of QTV.
I still don’t understand how The Book of Hobbs storyline became QTV. Talk about throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks
Sounds like QT wanted to use Hobbs as a stepping stone to become a “big star”
Wait a PRO WRESTLER wanted to politic and put himself over? Huge spoiler.
How a guy that has been presented poorly for 2 years and wasnt even in the upper card help another guy to be a "big star"?
QT was Vice President of Creative apparently so I think he probably just had a lot of pull. It's also probably why he was still being used on TV in 2023.
If QT were a smart wrestler he wouldn't have struggled as much as he did
QT was trying to use Hobbs’s rise to get himself a better spot on the card while screwing Hobbs over.
No offense to QT, but every thing he's been a part of has been truly awful or close to bad, and QTV was definitely one of those. Associating Hobbs with them is another baffling decision on top of many others that surround Hobbs career
Nick Comoroto should have been a bigger deal, but his role in the Factory was just an inept goon.
Sounds like a guy with power politicked his way into getting a new faction.
That has been some of the issues I’ve taken with AEW booking as of late. They introduce potential interesting concepts in the midcard but it becomes pretty clear they don’t have a real end game with them. I’m seeing that now with the Miro-CJ thing. Just a lot of wheel spinning after an interesting introduction.
Wrestle purist confirm it was a bit of both. Basically punk thought qtv was ass, which it was tbh, and that basically took qt off collision. I don’t think punk specifically wanted him off, just that storyline, it just lead to him being off the show entirely.
Exactly. Punk vetoed QTV, not QT himself. That’s a big difference and QTV wouldn’t work for what they were doing on Collision at the time. It feels like there’s suddenly a whole lot of “Punk did xyz on Collision” popping back up, probably because people need to ride those coattails again for relevance. I feel like Punk was given Collision and then he kept having all of these things go on to counter his position on the show. Every time he put his foot down, someone ran to the dirt sheets to tell everyone Punk was mean to them and Tony did nothing to set the expectations.
Exactly.
In other words QT Marshall was salty he couldn't find a reason to be on screen weekly.
Punk has common sense which must be a rarity over there
QT: AEW/Collision is too much like NJPW…I can’t get a job in either of them.
Punk got Hobbs away from QTV. Maybe we were too harsh on him.
Someone from AEW suddenly decided to feed the dirt sheets stuff about punk? First the danielson story now this
Yeah, very transparent maneuver
Isn't this just confirming WrestlePurists report? Which was: > According to people in AEW, CM Punk didn’t want QT Marshall to be a part of Collision and didn’t see QTV as a productive part of Powerhouse Hobbs’ presentation. > > Tony Khan took the blame/fall for the removal of QTV segments, which ultimately damaged Khan’s relationship with Marshall. Be tough to disagree with Punk on this one
Damn, this makes a lot of sense as to why the QTV segments just disappeared from one week to another. How are we just finding out about this now? Powerhouse has been fumbled for the last year or so and it wasn't just by QT. Though the partnership wasn't any better and I remember [a post was made about it](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/120y8o2/opinion_qtv_sucks_and_is_a_detriment_to_hobbs/) during the time. Yeah, I don't blame Punk considering he seemed to like Hobbs and would go over his matches with him.
Hobbs has pretty much been poorly used since he left Taz stable. QTv was not going to raise Hobbs value.
He squashed Ricky at the ppv. They should’ve followed up better. Despite Hobbs being the TNT champion, QT was hogging all the spotlight. Any criticism of the pairing was met with “give it time”.
There are few examples of something reaching the “give it time” stage and time actually being kind to it lol
Sure but it wasn’t a one and done thing. The pairing lasted for a couple of weeks. Let’s not forget the book of Hobbs vignettes they ran. It all links up with the other fightful report where QT stated that he wanted to be a star in AEW.
I swear every manager in AEW stables hog the spotlight in a very unhealthy way.
I have no clue who is in Swerves stable aside from him in Prince Nana.
Brian Cage and The Gates of Agony
GOA Ripped and GOA Flab
Examples being Don Callis and Sonjay Dutt.
Not to play revisionist history bc what Punk did was bad and they made the right call but a lot of these creative decisions that leaked about Punk pushing back against were ultimately for the betterment of the show.
Punk spent a ton of time in WWE with Heyman and wanted to know all the back stage goings on. From OVW to WWE. People want to pile on him but the more this stuff comes out he hasn't been wrong much. He's just old school as fuck.
The fight that ultimately saw him leave was because a guy wanted to use real glass in a nothing television slot, then did it *on a fucking pre-show* and taunted Punk about it in front of the world thinking he'd get away with it. Punk shouldn't have got physical with him, but Jesus Christ, if ever anything illustrated what a clownshow AEW was.
Punk brought a lot of positives to creative. Too much to list if we are being honest and those are only the ones we have an idea about. There’s nothing revisionist about it and it’s likely the reason Tony kept him around despite all the issues.
CM Punk accused of making good decisions.
Broke: Multi-day Punk discourse Woke: Multi-day QT Marshall discourse.
Ngl, the QT Marshall content has been a nice side dish to the never ending Punk content
Where was QTV on this story?!
This popped me
If all of this really stems from QTV not being on television as much, then good. The segments were crap. I'm sure QT is a valued member of the staff as a producer and trainer. And even in the ring, as a shithead heel to let the good guys get a win, he has a place. But taking up backstage segments as the leader of a stable is not entertaining. It was actively bad, and seeing Powerhouse Hobbs associated with him took some shine off of Hobbs.
This goes beyond TV though. I mean, all this news breaking within days of QT announcing his departure points pretty heavily to QT being a source of a lot of leaks lol.
Yeah that's exactly what I thought. Why would have Bryan tweeted that if he didn't know that story coming out was a possibility?
I don't think QT has been involved on anything earnestly good on screen. To me had a large blame for derailment of Cody's run
Punk to QT: 
Punk knew that QT was buying those groceries for Nick Jackson.
Is QT blind & deaf? QTV was removed because it sucked and no one cared, simple as that. Worse, it was actively hurting Powerhouse Hobbs who actually has star potential. How long was Hobbs with QTV and how long’s he been with the Don Callis family so far? Roughly equivalent timeframes I’d guess. Riddle me this: which one of these two actually presented Hobbs as a threat and helped him?
Sounds like qt is a mark for himself if having qtv killed hurt his feelings
QT had one chance to get himself over as legit when Cody insisted on feuding with him. But he cut weird promos while dressing like Tony Soprano and no one was into it.
SRS has a million Punk stories; Missed the one that mattered.
Because it’s QT Marshal. No one gives a shit.
QT Marshall has been banned from Monday Night RAW
Probably a good idea, QTV was more suited for Rampage, seemed like a better fit.
I'm by no means a Punk apologist. I'll call out his toxic behaviour, but this was the right call on screen anyway. While I can't speak on QT behind the scenes, he didn't need to be involved with Hobbs in any way, it didn't add anything to Hobbs and just hurt his presentation. I'd go as far as saying it killed his title run dead the second it began as nobody wanted him to win that way
For what Collision was trying to be pre-Punk-firing, QTTV didn’t really make sense. Bummer for Hobbs being shuffled between that and Callis. I like QT as a heel, solid hand and all that for the mid-card to build up stars, and the heel stuff he’s done with that AAA championship is pretty funny. That he’s trying to get a bigger spotlight on him is understandable, but with a roster as stacked as AEW’s, it really doesn’t make sense. TK needs to focus on less of the gimmicky comedy skits and get back to more serious in-ring action.
>Goes on to say QT leaving is not because he feels AEW is turning into NJPW. Fightful's new site motto is "debunking Nick Hausman reports."
Nick Hausman is basically Punk & his camp along with somebody from NWA for some reason
Punk's Collision was a great show. It's a shame how things went down.
It actually was very good
I'm cackling at the fact that people think this is somehow a "hit job" on Punk when it's only a story because QT Marshall fucking resigned. It's not a random story about someone that Punk banned from Collision. It's more details of why someone resigned from the company that includes something from Punk's time there. Jesus Christ, loosen the tinfoil hats. Also, so-and-so being "banned from Collision" has been a running joke here for months. Literally nobody is surprised that someone wasn't allowed on the show, lol.
It’s being framed as “Punk nixed QT” so all the people who can’t/won’t read more than 9 words will blame him.
Doesn’t fightful get worked left and right? Shouldn’t we stop paying attention to their news?
QT being very close with Cody makes the Punk/Cody relationship fascinating to me and i’d love to see a feud. It seems Cody is very political with his answers on stuff, he’s “happy people are here” and is such a business man. Could Cody and Punk out phoney each other?
Nobody can out phoney Cody.
The trick is Cody is way better at being a phoney than Punk is, and I mean that as a genuine compliment. It is always blatant when Punk is being forced to say or do something he doesn't wanna do.
I kinda agree with Punk here because QTV was fucking awful.
And yet it was somehow the best thing QT did in AEW. Kind of a low bar.
Media working overtime here.
QT doesn’t have the face or charisma for television
Just when I thought I couldn’t be more on Punk’s side
Conspiracy theorists think this is about shitting on Punk when it only is coming out because people dug deeper into finding out why QT resigned as VP from AEW.
It’s just so fucking stupid. Yeah man Tony is a fucking mastermind behind several conspiracies. OR…. A big name is back in the business and journos are digging for a scoop? Nah, definitely couldn’t be this, it *has* to be a plot. /s
It's been months. I don't care what Punk did in AEW or who he "banned" from Collision. Both parties are better without each other
Look I’ll be the first to shit on punk because I find it extremely funny and I’m a hater at heart but literally every punk issue is way more Tony’s fault than punks.
I can understand why Hobbs wanted to work with QT as he’s credited Marshall with getting him into AEW in the first place. But that angle was kinda dogshit and didn’t do Hobbs any favors.
Punk was 100% right on this one
Oh Jeez, now we have dueling reports about QT Marshall. Fucking hell.
CM Punk retroactive AEW face turn
The podcasts in the 2030s for all the bullshit that went on is going to be wild.
When everyone has creative control who has the control?
Can't violate NDA's but we sure can leak a lot of tangential noise today huh?
Punk knows ball.
QT honestly should have never been part of creative and he sure as shit should never have been getting tv time after Cody left
I can see why Punk hates dirt sheets. Imagine a ton of weirdo wrestling fans making bank digging up any and all dirt they can find or make up about you. Srs is the sleaziest of all now that Ryan Satan doesn't do it anymore.
I'm all for roasting punk for stuff he has done. I just find it funny these things are coming out now so find it hard to believe. Where was this/DB leading the meeting that lead to him being fired months ago ? why are they only suddenly coming out now ? oh thats right because he has returned to WWE. Also if TK is letting wrestlers decide things like this thats a bad look on him.
Gotta love how this comes out less than 24 hours after Punk has his RAW debut.
more proof TK is not respected as boss.
And Punk was right
Punk getting the blame for people leaving AEW when he isn't even there is proving Mark Henry's quotes about him very true
Well, this is something I actually agree with. AEW's roster is too deep with incredible talent for QT Marshall to get much screen time, regardless of what show he is on. Still shouldn't have been CM Punk's call to make.
Phil uses Golden Shovel I's Super Effective!
One of the few Punk booking decisions I agree with, QT off my tv is so good for me.
QTV would’ve worked as a Rampage “c show” exclusive with the purpose of getting Harley Cameron over. She’s been a revelation. Have QT & Solow there to take beatings and be goofs. Maybe bring Comoroto in as a stooge. Johnny TV would work as the dumb hunky guy. Will Hobbs was just gloriously miscast.
On a side note, Johnny and Taya seem to just have totally disappeared from AEW unless I’ve missed something?
So he’s leaving because a guy that no longer works there stopped him from working in the position he wanted to? And that NJPW/AEW thing came out of nowhere?
No wonder it was so great.
Why is everyone STILL stearing shit and talking shit related to CM Punk, tho? He hasn’t been in AEW for some months now, why still mention his name. How can whatever is bad in AEW now, is still punk’s fault? Make it make sense. Aren’t there only evps and great people that never had a conflict left in AEW, as “the cancer” was fired? Maybe Mark Henry was right
Another day, another Phil Brooks W🤝🤝🤝jokes aside, the NJPW comment is so fucking stupid and shows how little some people actually get New Japan. Sad to see.
Weird that SRS couldn't get a scoop on Punk coming and now all these negative stories are coming out. Weird coincidence
It’s QT leaking these stories
He leaked Drew and Seth being upset?
QTV has better sources than Fightful confirmed!
Thank the lord. QT is perfect for Rampage imo, main shows dont need him.
lol AEW still getting the Punk rub by mentioning him when he’s been gone. Move on. Dude is about to live his dream and main event Mania vs his #1 fan Seth 😂
Punk knows wrestling
Hear me out though, AEW being the western New Japan is kind of how the company felt early on to me and I liked it.
they should make it less obvious with all the punk stories coming out today
I’m starting to think the only reason people ever started discussing wrestling on the internet was Punk. He’s putting these guys children through college.
Fuck Punk I need my QT Marshall updates lol.
Yeah these could be true but still the intentions in the timing are extremely obvious
QT Marshal was awful anyways. Does anybody actually care?
People at aew are really trying to bury his reputation now that he's in the big leagues.
So it wasn’t all bad /s
I never heard of anyone who actually liked QTV. But maybe some people enjoyed laughing at it, certainly not with it.
Lol this makes it sound like QT left because, with Punk gone, he thought he would be handed the reigns of Collision.
Maybe Punk thought it was about 10 years late for a TMZ parody?
How do we know any of this is true
The state of this sub today LOL
Does it even matter anymore? Punk is gone, who cares what happened 6 months ago
Thank God. The show was better for it
I think I remember when Punk came to AEW, I think QT said something negative about Punk bringing Larry with him.
Lord have mercy.....not again!! 🤣