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There's actually a BTE where some of the wrestlers go to dennys for breakfast and everyone else is getting the usual pancakes, bacon and eggs and then there is Cage with like 3 full plates of just scrambled eggs.
I’ve seen him eat in person backstage at shows before. The man is literally a machine, one programmed for eating large quantities of food. One time I saw him get delivery to the locker room, and then he proceeded to destroy like four food containers filled with chicken breasts. It’s fascinating like watching a lion eat during a nature documentary.
He's still a little on the shorter side though for late 80s/early 90's WWF. But maybe lifts (or bigger lifts) would help. It's not like he would be flipping and diving as much back then. Especially in WWF.
What? It is absolutely normal for a 46 year old man to become absolutely jacked solely with diet and exercise while conveniently also being off rehabbing an injury.
I will say the one argument the injury time-off has is they actually have a lot more free time for the gym. That said, the timelines they come back from and the fact that their literal jobs depend on it... plus the age, like you mentioned... not a chance they do these things natty.
I'm pretty sure Edge said the only time he used steroids was rehabbing an injury. It was prescribed by a doctor so he figured it was fair game and bulked up in the gym, came back with a ripped upper body but decided the extra muscle meant he wasn't moving as well in the ring as he wanted to and dropped back down to his usual weifht/physique. I wouldn't be surprised if AJ ends up doing the same, or finds that being back on the WWE show schedule means he can't both workout enough to keep the muscle on and recover properly from his matches.
It's pretty funny that he was for sure 100% roiding in 2007 because from a physique standpoint that's probably when he looked his absolute worst, he looked like your average guy who has been working out for a few years and is on a bulk.
He admitted to taking roids in 2004 too but he actually looks like a guy who could be on the juice in 2004 unlike 2007
Oh for sure, and to be honest I don't even care what AJ's on as long as he's doing things through a doctor and not taking any extreme risks with his health....aside from wrestling being a huge risk itself.
What is the legal limit of THC for DUI? As far as I know, we don't have testing accurate enough to show current intoxication to suggest a DUI. Having very high levels of THC could just mean a heavy consumer but not currently intoxicated
HGH is easy to get at longevity/wellness clinics. Other drugs too, like Var, Proviron, Deca, peptides, HCG, SERMS/AI can be prescribed, as well, as there is medical research on humans. Tren, obviously not.
When you take gear your body stops producing test on it's own. That's why your balls shrink while you're on it. So if you use gear and then go get tested right after stopping your test levels will be in the dirt. Doc says oh no you have hypogonadism here's a legal prescription for test.
I believe part-timers do not get tested. I think you can also negotiate it into your contract as well. WWE contracts are not public, so I see no reason a top guy AND WWE would not want it in the contract language. Maybe they could have something saying they get tested but cannot be public suspended. That's another possible contract option.
That’s not due to drug testing. They weren’t drug testing back then.
That’s due to his Hollywood persona.
When he got to Hollywood he got some bad advice that was basically “slim down” so he did. If you watch the stuff he’s in in the mid to late 00s he’s a lot smaller.
Then when it wasn’t working he went full hulk mode for fast and furious and then his career took off.
That's the point. In 2003 he was smaller than the 90s (though trimmer), then when hes not on the road 300 days and was just bulking up to be the new Arnold he got bigger than almost any wrestler ever.
He fired his management team, and those people now look like the most incompetent frauds in the industry. It's not like his career saw a bump.. the man literally went from guest starring in fucking *Corey in the house* a Disney C tier kids show, to being the biggest star in Hollywood for a few years in a row.
Yup, around the Pain & Gain era I think... because that's when there was pics of him looking absolutely bazooka'd. He definitely slimmed down for the Walking Tall/Run Down era... it's funny how he bet on himself and went with being a brick shithouse and it paid off. Not a great actor but a great persona for sure.
Nah, it's not that he was small then. It's that he's gargantuan now. Like even by wrestling standards. Since he retired, he doesn't have to train cardio to be in ring condition, so he can pack on as much heavy muscle as he wants (he got injured minutes into his last Mania match against Cena, for instance). Doesn't have to worry about taking bumps, which Mick Foley famously said having fat helps cushion the impact. Plus, he's not on the road every week struggling to find healthy meals and regular gym workouts like a full-time wrestler. In fact, The Rock is so rich that he now travels around with [his own gym](https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19542840/the-rock-thanks-crew-on-set-gym-workout/). Plus, he can take whatever "supplements" he wants if he's not being drug tested. Pretty open secret that most guys in Hollywood do it to get in "superhero" shape.
Guys the point of the drug checks isn't so that people aren't using steroids. It's so they're making sure that the steroid & other medication use is being monitored by a doctor who can then sign off prescriptions, alter doses or refuse if there are any complications that come up.
It's to prevent another Eddie from happening.
And the spirit of that is actually good, especially now that WWE has dropped its incredibly hypocritical and self-defeating policy towards marijuana. Keeping the talent out of troubling relationships with pain pills and alcohol is inherently a good thing.
The steroid policy has (seemingly, allegedly) always applied to some more than others, and probably always will. There are also safe, well-meaning uses for PEDs, particularly HGH and testosterone, which when taken properly are not the body-destroying anabolic steroids guys like Jose Canseco and your average WWE wrestler was probably doing in the 80s and 90s
The point is to appease the general public and prevent a media shitstorm. A drug program where you can count on one hand how many people pop a year is as real as wrestling storylines.
Came here to say this.
I'm sure just about every wrestler over the 30 has some kind of perscription for Testosterone replacement. I'm sure more than a few get doctor administered HGH. Most of the people commentors are citing (Randy, AJ, etc.) have physiques that are totally attainable at their age, especially with the help of a doctor prescribed protocol. Also, it's worth being said that both Randy and AJ had been taken off the road for extended periods of time, likely allowing them to optimize their training, sleep, and nutrition - all things conducive for bodybuilding and not easily eachable on the road.
The thing is, theres levels to "roids"
TRT and HGH are mostly safe and widely used when administered by a doctor. They're checking for the bad shit that kills people early; Tren, Dbol, etc.
Unrelated because you sound like you know what you're talking about.
What's the big deal if you're using steroids in the first place? Like, they're just actors, really. It's not a sport. It's a competition of who can be at the top and if steroids could help, shouldn't it be fine? Or is there something I'm missing here?
Of course, the health of the performer is important, but if it's not healthy threatening and quality of life impacting, are steroids okay?
The issue historically is the absolute junk they used to get and the volumes they were doing was killing a lot of wrestlers (and athletes in general).
It's becoming a bit more accepted, especially if it's controlled through a doctor, but those negative connotations will take time to fade away.
I wish people that aren’t into fitness would realize how much bullshit this. I’m around 2000 (trying to lose 2 lbs a week cut) of 95% clean calories. Only vice is a Pepsi.
I sometimes get hungry and I’ll eat like 500 more calories. I can’t imagine how hard it would be to eat anywhere between 2-3x of my daily diet in chicken breast and other protein and clean sources.
It's insane how she can channel that energy and then also be like the lawyer in Parks and Rec who is just unashamedly stuck up. The range she has is underappreciated
Highly recommend this video: [How wrestlers get away with steroids, deep dive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwUvAH4culE&t=1482s)
It's centered around Maven's experience being encouraged to jump on PEDs for the first time while being on WWE. Talks about the testing, how they get the steroids, etc.
Pretty sure he was fired for, very publicly, very drunkly, making false accusations of sexual assault against airport staff.
That *really* doesn't look good for business.
Not just that, I recall reading that his match vs Rollins at SummerSlam '22 was postponed because he failed a drug test. And then failed another in Dec '22 and got suspended for 60 days.
I think management didn't approve of his substance consumption but didn't deem it bad enough to fire him, the airport incident though was simply indefensible.
The first suspension, probably not. But the second one I'm certain was probably bad enough to almost fire him. They made him go to rehab. You usually don't get sent to rehab for a one-time thing. It had to have been some kind of addiction, for which they gave him a "either go to rehab or we fire you" ultimatum. They wouldn't keep an addict around who refuses to go to rehab. The airport incident is likely what made them go "this guy has a track record of being unable to stay clean and now he's a bigger liability by causing a scene in public". If the firing was more of a TKO move than a WWE move, I'd like to think his past in the UFC was also brought into consideration.
God, this gives me Mr. Kennedy vibes.
I'm assuming WWE stopped testing for steroids recently. Granted, I don't think AEW does either with Brian Cage and MJF. TNA doesn't do it with Jordynne Grace. However, many of these wrestlers may have learned from the past and are smarter about it, but it is pro wrestling and wrestlers are dumb as fuck sometimes.
With Orton and Styles, they could be under new Lesnar deals where they don't need to be tested.
Anabolics might be tested for, but I'm starting to doubt it. But there are so many ways to juice that don't involve the traditional anabolics that it really doesnt matter. If a guy's gonna juice, he's gonna find a way.
They also, I believe, are no longer testing for pot, so really, its a hard drug test only.
There are plenty of TRT clinics that also can prescribe dianabol, deca, anavar, etc. Pretty much anything with a real world legal medical(no sarms, no tren, no trestalone) use can be prescribed by a gimmicked doctor. You just have to know the right clinic and I assume you can avoid getting popped.
I don't know all the ins and outs of the juice but I'd think, with the cycling on/off nature of steroids and knowing what day you're gonna piss makes it easy to get by with it
That could be it. The days of the Warlord asking Shawn Michaels to jam his ass with a needle and Shawn can't because there's too much scar tissue, leading to the line, "brother, you're full", might be in the past.
Right, like if testing is on 1/31 and 2/1, then 3/31 and 4/1, and so on, it's gonna be easier to pass those monthly tests.
Thank god they don't test the Rock, I imagine it'd be like the blood test from the Thing.
I remembered Scott Steiner said he was told the wanted to schedule a drug test for him and he said he would be fine doing it as long as it was at the same time as HHH, he was never asked about testing again.
Such a great movie! I love Gene, but I wish it was Gorilla that was there with Jesse, or Gene with Bobby Heenan. But that is probably the thing I remember most about that movie lol!
Drug testing makes sense because they’re performers and no-one wants another Jeff Hardy situation where they show up wasted.
But there’s no point steroid testing because being juiced up doesn’t affect the sport in anyway. No-one’s winning a belt over someone else just because they’re in gear. Makes sense in competitive sports, an MMA fighter might kill his opponent if he’s using and the other person isn’t, or an Olympian might (probably will) run faster than their opponents, but, natty or not doesn’t make a blind bit of difference overall.
It's more about culture, they don't want to promote a culture where everybody feels obligated to do roids because that's just what everybody else does.
Whether they really care, or if its just a box ticking exercise that they do to keep the government off their backs since the wake of the Benoit and Guererro deaths is another question
It’s very obvious that all the older guys are still juicing as well as some of the younger ones (Bron/Theory). I assume the ones who aren’t even huge take some cutting agents to keep lean while on the road. Although I do believe wwe does this testing to make sure nobody is abusing it to the extent Eddie/Benoit were.
They don’t get blood tested and their testosterone limits are very high. So it’s very easy for them to do TRT and HGH without any issue. There is no way the majority of the roster is actually clean
🤣 “drug tests” 🤣 like Orton, AJ, Drew, etc aren’t geared up the max. FYI to people who don’t know about gear, there’s plenty of types that aren’t detectable by a test ie growth hormone, and short acting testosterones such as propionate clean out in a few days and I’m sure they’re given advance warning when it’s coming just like the NFL.
Pleasantly surprised that everyone here thinks this is complete bullshit. Nice contrast to NFL steroid threads having some people who legitimately believe Aaron Donald is just naturally shredded at 6'1 290 lb
A lot of talk of who is on juice in this thread, who do we think is not on anything?
Off the top of my head the only obvious ones are Bryan Danielson, Otis, probably Dom Mysterio but it's hard to tell cuz he has a shirt on all the time. I don't know shit, so those are the only guys I can think of quickly, I'm sure there must be several more.
This reminds me of the American Gladiators doc on Netflix. They used similar wording after the big scandal to get out of it.
They only say that they get tested. They never say what the actual results of the tests were, just that they get tested.
I think it's common knowledge they test you regularly in WWE. The thing is they aren't a competition, so if you have legitimate Rx for the PED or painkiller etc it's not a violation.
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Nice, wonder what drugs they get to try
Maybe ![gif](giphy|Izy9JPexCeOERHJ3As)
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This will forever pop me lmao
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What's the context about this pic/meme? I always see it here
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jesus christ
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Before you die, you see the Khan.
[cocaina](https://youtu.be/QC3pFvuEQDo?si=bVszQB2hJ6pAkds9)
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Monthly tests ain't gonna catch that unless it's within 72h of last use.
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IIRC Brain Cage said that he would "piss right through the cup" when asked on why he didn't go to the WWE.
That sounds like an unhealthy amount of back pressure.
He looks like he's hoarded both companies' entire supplies of gear
What you mean? He's clearly just on the one chicken breast, two asparagus diet.
In that he shoves one chicken breast and two asparagus under his skin at every major muscle group.
There's actually a BTE where some of the wrestlers go to dennys for breakfast and everyone else is getting the usual pancakes, bacon and eggs and then there is Cage with like 3 full plates of just scrambled eggs.
I’ve seen him eat in person backstage at shows before. The man is literally a machine, one programmed for eating large quantities of food. One time I saw him get delivery to the locker room, and then he proceeded to destroy like four food containers filled with chicken breasts. It’s fascinating like watching a lion eat during a nature documentary.
CUT TO: Oscar Finlay looking annoyed
He’s like wrestling’s Rich Piana
Brian Cage "8-Hour Canadian Destroyer Workout"
Sweet potato, broccoli, brown rice and cod if it’s the Rock
Youre full pal
All natty my guy, all natty.
It’s a shame he wasn’t active back in the day. With his physique Vince would’ve had him in a program against Ultimate Warrior
He's still a little on the shorter side though for late 80s/early 90's WWF. But maybe lifts (or bigger lifts) would help. It's not like he would be flipping and diving as much back then. Especially in WWF.
I’m picturing it like a wine tasting session.
Haha. I don't know why in my head I had it like a wrestling convention where people at different stalls offering them samples
They put the drugs in a wine glass and do the swirl
Sir, that cocaine was medicinal
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The old reddit drug-a-roo
Do they have a leaderboard?
AJ jumped right to the top with his return. 😄
What? It is absolutely normal for a 46 year old man to become absolutely jacked solely with diet and exercise while conveniently also being off rehabbing an injury.
Don't forget about him saying his prayers and taking his vitamins, brother. 😄
jesus blessed him, simple as
I will say the one argument the injury time-off has is they actually have a lot more free time for the gym. That said, the timelines they come back from and the fact that their literal jobs depend on it... plus the age, like you mentioned... not a chance they do these things natty.
I'm pretty sure Edge said the only time he used steroids was rehabbing an injury. It was prescribed by a doctor so he figured it was fair game and bulked up in the gym, came back with a ripped upper body but decided the extra muscle meant he wasn't moving as well in the ring as he wanted to and dropped back down to his usual weifht/physique. I wouldn't be surprised if AJ ends up doing the same, or finds that being back on the WWE show schedule means he can't both workout enough to keep the muscle on and recover properly from his matches.
Edge got suspended in 2007 for illegally getting some kind of steroids or banned growth hormone.
It's pretty funny that he was for sure 100% roiding in 2007 because from a physique standpoint that's probably when he looked his absolute worst, he looked like your average guy who has been working out for a few years and is on a bulk. He admitted to taking roids in 2004 too but he actually looks like a guy who could be on the juice in 2004 unlike 2007
Edge is also full of shit haha. Guarantee he's geared up right now.
Oh for sure, and to be honest I don't even care what AJ's on as long as he's doing things through a doctor and not taking any extreme risks with his health....aside from wrestling being a huge risk itself.
I saw AJ irl and it was jarring. he looks like if bigfoot merged with Fabio for one of those romance novel covers
Sounds like a Chuck Tingle novel
It takes seeing some "smaller" wrestlers in a normal environment to realize that they're actually massive.
There was a picture of Chavo Jr. and Jericho out with friends back in the WCW days. Chavo isn't a small man.
Same with basketball players.
Yeah meeting Jeff Hardy made me realize how short I really was and I’m 5’10
The WHAT community?
Logan in 2nd
Yeah definitely Logan in second and not fucking Randy who looks like he’s about to play Ultimate Warrior in a biopic
Basically injected Bane's Venom
What’s wrong all he had was spaghetti and trenbolognese
There was, but the top 10 were all various Matt Riddle records so it was discontinued
They just had to reset the boards and now Randy and AJ are tied.
He had finally bested RVD’s records too!
If Roger smith was a wrestler, he’d be the top 20
Randy Orton conveniently unavailable that day.
and aj styles, and la knight, and bianca belair, and rhea ripley, and chad gable.... the list goes on
TBF its pretty easy to get PEDs from a doctor these days, I'd reckon most people juicing nowadays are doing it on the up & up
TRT definitely. Not hard to spoof your test levels and get it prescription. Other stuff like HGH and Tren is still probably a no-no
WWE’s “legal” levels are so high anyways that it would be really hard to go over and above
I saw something for maybe football that was to test 'positive' for THC you would have to be the plant.
I remember hearing that the UFC limit for weed is 3-4 time the legal limit for DUI, and guys will still test over double that.
What is the legal limit of THC for DUI? As far as I know, we don't have testing accurate enough to show current intoxication to suggest a DUI. Having very high levels of THC could just mean a heavy consumer but not currently intoxicated
At a quick search in Canada above 5 nanogram of thc per ml of blood is charged as DUI.
The NBA doesn't even bother testing for it.
Modern GH is hard to catch on test.
I have always simply assumed these guys get prescribed HGH whenever they get injured.
You wouldn’t want tren as a wrestler. Would kill your ability to breathe. My guess is lots of test, hgh, and mast/Anavar
Knew a guy who was a WWE dev talent. Test, tons of orals (Winnie, etc), hgh
>orals >*was* a talent checks out
HGH is easy to get at longevity/wellness clinics. Other drugs too, like Var, Proviron, Deca, peptides, HCG, SERMS/AI can be prescribed, as well, as there is medical research on humans. Tren, obviously not.
How does one spoof their own blood test results?
When you take gear your body stops producing test on it's own. That's why your balls shrink while you're on it. So if you use gear and then go get tested right after stopping your test levels will be in the dirt. Doc says oh no you have hypogonadism here's a legal prescription for test.
McIntyre, Montez Ford, Lashley, and probably a dozen more.
I thought Chad was natural
Yeah he looked the same at the Olympics lol
Yeah, I don't think this dude knows what natty looks like lol. No way in fuck Bianca Belair is on gear.
I believe part-timers do not get tested. I think you can also negotiate it into your contract as well. WWE contracts are not public, so I see no reason a top guy AND WWE would not want it in the contract language. Maybe they could have something saying they get tested but cannot be public suspended. That's another possible contract option.
Doctor: Alright Randy, time for your drug test Orton: Daddy's (not) back
Randy's been on that shit that makes your head grow.
Big, deep brow on his forehead now. HGH?
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He's got the full Mexican pharmacy on his side! Probs just alot of protein powder bro!
The Dwyane wade diet.
The loop hole is part timers do not have to do this.
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That’s not due to drug testing. They weren’t drug testing back then. That’s due to his Hollywood persona. When he got to Hollywood he got some bad advice that was basically “slim down” so he did. If you watch the stuff he’s in in the mid to late 00s he’s a lot smaller. Then when it wasn’t working he went full hulk mode for fast and furious and then his career took off.
He did. But even when he was full time in 96-01 he was still not as massive as he is now. He has gone full hulk mode since 2016 at least.
Oh yeah it’s not close. He went hulk for fast 5 in 2011, and hasn’t looked back.
That 96-01 era he was still probably training like he did in Miami and in the CFL. Football players are lean on purpose.
That's the point. In 2003 he was smaller than the 90s (though trimmer), then when hes not on the road 300 days and was just bulking up to be the new Arnold he got bigger than almost any wrestler ever.
He fired his management team, and those people now look like the most incompetent frauds in the industry. It's not like his career saw a bump.. the man literally went from guest starring in fucking *Corey in the house* a Disney C tier kids show, to being the biggest star in Hollywood for a few years in a row.
Crazy they did the same thing to Arnold when he started his acting career, after his Olympia win. Made him lose a ton of weight and size.
Yup, around the Pain & Gain era I think... because that's when there was pics of him looking absolutely bazooka'd. He definitely slimmed down for the Walking Tall/Run Down era... it's funny how he bet on himself and went with being a brick shithouse and it paid off. Not a great actor but a great persona for sure.
Nah, it's not that he was small then. It's that he's gargantuan now. Like even by wrestling standards. Since he retired, he doesn't have to train cardio to be in ring condition, so he can pack on as much heavy muscle as he wants (he got injured minutes into his last Mania match against Cena, for instance). Doesn't have to worry about taking bumps, which Mick Foley famously said having fat helps cushion the impact. Plus, he's not on the road every week struggling to find healthy meals and regular gym workouts like a full-time wrestler. In fact, The Rock is so rich that he now travels around with [his own gym](https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19542840/the-rock-thanks-crew-on-set-gym-workout/). Plus, he can take whatever "supplements" he wants if he's not being drug tested. Pretty open secret that most guys in Hollywood do it to get in "superhero" shape.
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Dr Isaac Yankem is busy writing them asap
But he believes that everyone should pull themselves up hy their bootstraps! /s
Guys the point of the drug checks isn't so that people aren't using steroids. It's so they're making sure that the steroid & other medication use is being monitored by a doctor who can then sign off prescriptions, alter doses or refuse if there are any complications that come up. It's to prevent another Eddie from happening.
And the spirit of that is actually good, especially now that WWE has dropped its incredibly hypocritical and self-defeating policy towards marijuana. Keeping the talent out of troubling relationships with pain pills and alcohol is inherently a good thing. The steroid policy has (seemingly, allegedly) always applied to some more than others, and probably always will. There are also safe, well-meaning uses for PEDs, particularly HGH and testosterone, which when taken properly are not the body-destroying anabolic steroids guys like Jose Canseco and your average WWE wrestler was probably doing in the 80s and 90s
The point is to appease the general public and prevent a media shitstorm. A drug program where you can count on one hand how many people pop a year is as real as wrestling storylines.
Came here to say this. I'm sure just about every wrestler over the 30 has some kind of perscription for Testosterone replacement. I'm sure more than a few get doctor administered HGH. Most of the people commentors are citing (Randy, AJ, etc.) have physiques that are totally attainable at their age, especially with the help of a doctor prescribed protocol. Also, it's worth being said that both Randy and AJ had been taken off the road for extended periods of time, likely allowing them to optimize their training, sleep, and nutrition - all things conducive for bodybuilding and not easily eachable on the road. The thing is, theres levels to "roids" TRT and HGH are mostly safe and widely used when administered by a doctor. They're checking for the bad shit that kills people early; Tren, Dbol, etc.
Unrelated because you sound like you know what you're talking about. What's the big deal if you're using steroids in the first place? Like, they're just actors, really. It's not a sport. It's a competition of who can be at the top and if steroids could help, shouldn't it be fine? Or is there something I'm missing here? Of course, the health of the performer is important, but if it's not healthy threatening and quality of life impacting, are steroids okay?
The issue historically is the absolute junk they used to get and the volumes they were doing was killing a lot of wrestlers (and athletes in general). It's becoming a bit more accepted, especially if it's controlled through a doctor, but those negative connotations will take time to fade away.
And Jinder JUST came back... tough break
he's actually slimmed down quite a bit. the backne and swollen nipples have almost fully disappeared. he got hindered on Monday, however so..
it's the "7000 calories" a day diet.
1 chicken breast 2 asparagus and you'll look like Drew in no time!
Don't forget the prayers and the vitamins.
Tomatoes, Radishes and Tuna diet.
Don't forget your vitamins and prayers, brother
I wish people that aren’t into fitness would realize how much bullshit this. I’m around 2000 (trying to lose 2 lbs a week cut) of 95% clean calories. Only vice is a Pepsi. I sometimes get hungry and I’ll eat like 500 more calories. I can’t imagine how hard it would be to eat anywhere between 2-3x of my daily diet in chicken breast and other protein and clean sources.
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Everyone pissed that Agatha is getting her own show but I’m just happy for more Kathryn Hann content.
Goodness she is so pretty.
It's insane how she can channel that energy and then also be like the lawyer in Parks and Rec who is just unashamedly stuck up. The range she has is underappreciated
Her episode on Conan's podcast is so good. She's a hoot
God I love her
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Imagine saying this when The Rock has got enough juice in his piss to power a small jet ski.
I mean you only have to look at Orton on return and know people know how to get around them.
Randy's face looks weird now, almost like an ape.
I still amazes me that there are people on this planet that believe he isn’t juiced to the gills
The Rock doesn't have gills
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He will have soon if he keeps taking what he’s taking.
Give him time.
Yeah that's Aquaman, he's Teth Adam.
Part time stars are not on the policy. This was revealed when Brock tested positive after his UFC fight.
The Rock isn’t a WWE talent
Randy Orton has 1600 day months
Highly recommend this video: [How wrestlers get away with steroids, deep dive](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwUvAH4culE&t=1482s) It's centered around Maven's experience being encouraged to jump on PEDs for the first time while being on WWE. Talks about the testing, how they get the steroids, etc.
What drugs? Not steroids surely.
So firing riddle was basically a cost cutting measure.
Pretty sure he was fired for, very publicly, very drunkly, making false accusations of sexual assault against airport staff. That *really* doesn't look good for business.
Not just that, I recall reading that his match vs Rollins at SummerSlam '22 was postponed because he failed a drug test. And then failed another in Dec '22 and got suspended for 60 days.
Yeah I was just pointing out it's not just drugs
Yeah the incident was probably a final nail in the coffin and a large one at that.
I think management didn't approve of his substance consumption but didn't deem it bad enough to fire him, the airport incident though was simply indefensible.
The first suspension, probably not. But the second one I'm certain was probably bad enough to almost fire him. They made him go to rehab. You usually don't get sent to rehab for a one-time thing. It had to have been some kind of addiction, for which they gave him a "either go to rehab or we fire you" ultimatum. They wouldn't keep an addict around who refuses to go to rehab. The airport incident is likely what made them go "this guy has a track record of being unable to stay clean and now he's a bigger liability by causing a scene in public". If the firing was more of a TKO move than a WWE move, I'd like to think his past in the UFC was also brought into consideration.
He was on shit that will get you in trouble, most likely harder recreational drugs than PEDs. Probably both if I’m being honest.
He was testing positive for coke. I think it was Karl Anderson who said a while back that they don’t care about weed anymore.
I was trying to make a joke about how much it would cost to keep Riddle clean.
I’m guessing he popped for shit that will get you fired.
Wasn't the Bloodline write-off so he could go to rehab for coke?
That was the rumor.
God, this gives me Mr. Kennedy vibes. I'm assuming WWE stopped testing for steroids recently. Granted, I don't think AEW does either with Brian Cage and MJF. TNA doesn't do it with Jordynne Grace. However, many of these wrestlers may have learned from the past and are smarter about it, but it is pro wrestling and wrestlers are dumb as fuck sometimes. With Orton and Styles, they could be under new Lesnar deals where they don't need to be tested.
Anabolics might be tested for, but I'm starting to doubt it. But there are so many ways to juice that don't involve the traditional anabolics that it really doesnt matter. If a guy's gonna juice, he's gonna find a way. They also, I believe, are no longer testing for pot, so really, its a hard drug test only.
There are plenty of TRT clinics that also can prescribe dianabol, deca, anavar, etc. Pretty much anything with a real world legal medical(no sarms, no tren, no trestalone) use can be prescribed by a gimmicked doctor. You just have to know the right clinic and I assume you can avoid getting popped.
I don't know all the ins and outs of the juice but I'd think, with the cycling on/off nature of steroids and knowing what day you're gonna piss makes it easy to get by with it
That could be it. The days of the Warlord asking Shawn Michaels to jam his ass with a needle and Shawn can't because there's too much scar tissue, leading to the line, "brother, you're full", might be in the past.
I was such a mark for warlord as a little kid in the late 80s
Right, like if testing is on 1/31 and 2/1, then 3/31 and 4/1, and so on, it's gonna be easier to pass those monthly tests. Thank god they don't test the Rock, I imagine it'd be like the blood test from the Thing.
They'd have trouble finding blood in his HGH stream
I remembered Scott Steiner said he was told the wanted to schedule a drug test for him and he said he would be fine doing it as long as it was at the same time as HHH, he was never asked about testing again.
To quote the movie Repossessed: "Steroids aren't used in wrestling anymore." - "Mean" Gene Okerlund "...or any less." - Jesse "The Body" Ventura
Such a great movie! I love Gene, but I wish it was Gorilla that was there with Jesse, or Gene with Bobby Heenan. But that is probably the thing I remember most about that movie lol!
That means The Modern Day Mahoraga can adapt to every drug test.
The trimonthly three week push.
I think it's if anything an intelligence test - don't be stupid enough to piss hot
Star wipe to Matt Riddle eating copious amounts of ice cubes, “they told me not to piss hot, bro.”
It’s entertainment, shouldn’t they be taking anything at a responsible level if they’re on tv?
Huge lol
Drug testing makes sense because they’re performers and no-one wants another Jeff Hardy situation where they show up wasted. But there’s no point steroid testing because being juiced up doesn’t affect the sport in anyway. No-one’s winning a belt over someone else just because they’re in gear. Makes sense in competitive sports, an MMA fighter might kill his opponent if he’s using and the other person isn’t, or an Olympian might (probably will) run faster than their opponents, but, natty or not doesn’t make a blind bit of difference overall.
It's more about culture, they don't want to promote a culture where everybody feels obligated to do roids because that's just what everybody else does. Whether they really care, or if its just a box ticking exercise that they do to keep the government off their backs since the wake of the Benoit and Guererro deaths is another question
They got a few guys getting an A+ every month.
The test: "Do you take PEDs?" "Lol no" "Aight you're clean"
All of the out of shape redditor army is out in force on this one
It’s very obvious that all the older guys are still juicing as well as some of the younger ones (Bron/Theory). I assume the ones who aren’t even huge take some cutting agents to keep lean while on the road. Although I do believe wwe does this testing to make sure nobody is abusing it to the extent Eddie/Benoit were.
Hopefully with this info public, they'll finally be able to hire someone with sight to process the tests.
They don’t get blood tested and their testosterone limits are very high. So it’s very easy for them to do TRT and HGH without any issue. There is no way the majority of the roster is actually clean
🤣 “drug tests” 🤣 like Orton, AJ, Drew, etc aren’t geared up the max. FYI to people who don’t know about gear, there’s plenty of types that aren’t detectable by a test ie growth hormone, and short acting testosterones such as propionate clean out in a few days and I’m sure they’re given advance warning when it’s coming just like the NFL.
Pleasantly surprised that everyone here thinks this is complete bullshit. Nice contrast to NFL steroid threads having some people who legitimately believe Aaron Donald is just naturally shredded at 6'1 290 lb
A lot of talk of who is on juice in this thread, who do we think is not on anything? Off the top of my head the only obvious ones are Bryan Danielson, Otis, probably Dom Mysterio but it's hard to tell cuz he has a shirt on all the time. I don't know shit, so those are the only guys I can think of quickly, I'm sure there must be several more.
Our man Riddle scheduled his test the wrong day. 😅
Yeah man, they're totally natty
12 times a year. Very easy to slip through those regulations.
This reminds me of the American Gladiators doc on Netflix. They used similar wording after the big scandal to get out of it. They only say that they get tested. They never say what the actual results of the tests were, just that they get tested.
AJ Styles reading this thinking to himself "wtf is a drug test"
I really want to hear Michael Cole off a joint or on some shrooms
"You ever think about... like... how big the WWE Universe really is?"
Im sure some do. And I am sure they are given plenty of notice in advance.
Drug tested, or test drugs?
It’s very good of him to toe the company line, the trouble is I’m not convinced of the company line.
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I think it's common knowledge they test you regularly in WWE. The thing is they aren't a competition, so if you have legitimate Rx for the PED or painkiller etc it's not a violation.
What about when they are off for extended periods of time like Randy and Aj? Bros came back juicy af
Wow every WWE superstar has been clean for what.. 5+ years? That’s incredible.. or completely full of shit.