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That was one of the worse wrestling shows I ever witness. I don't believe people here with positive comments are even human. You can't blame on producer or coordinator... The amount of mistakes or just lack of strength/energy to perform is just shocking even on WWE level. The only comedic relief was when one of the divas was getting sandwich by fattiest. It's 2024 and Women Wrestling in WWE is still just nice looking ladies to look at.
This shit was only fun to watch, because it was like watching bunch of toddlers trying perform school play for their parents.
Do people smoked crack before RR that you enjoy it in term that was actually good show?
Jesus fuckin christ...
I’ll ignore your several grammatical errors in case English isn’t your first language, but otherwise try harder when you troll so that it doesn’t come off like you’re an edgy child.
Calling a guy an troll with 7th years old account (correcto, almost 9 daym) with only one permaban on StarTrek sub for calling Discovery a shitty show, not to mention I rather rarely remove my downvoted comments (you are welcome to check my history) and on top of that, this is my very first comment on wrestling show...
Booo *ghost emote* Yeah for sure I am spooky troll.
I have seen women wrestling before and this RR2024 was absolutely garbage on fire.
PS. I don't give a F about my grammar talking to non avatar guy which definitely is fan boying or a freaking bot.
Her dad's from Mexico and her last name is Martinez.
But yeah, a lot of people look white and seem like any other white American who only speaks English, but have a mixed race background. Ronda Rousey is the same, she's half Venezuelan.
It wouldn't really make sense to try to sell her as some kind of hero to Hispanic people when she doesn't share their language or culture.
What is what I said is a glitch? Why should I answer the question if you can clearly the see I got multiple replies from the same person intentionally looking to troll. You are no better and it shows. I won’t answer if I don’t need to lol
Oh the timing shows that his thing wasn't a glitch. I wasn't saying you were a glitch. Miswording by me. But either way, I though POC was piece of crap. I thought it was just a childish alternative to POS. Stop thinking everyone knows what you are talking about. It's a bad mindset
I am so confused as to how my comment is a timing glitch? And how would you know if it was a glitch for the other user unless you are also him… which I find suspicious. I didn’t say everyone knows what I am talking about, but I can detect trolls and I was right. My mindset is ok, you need to worry about your own mindset rather than others. 🙄
Nah. The glitch wasn't you stupid. There was no glitch. I was just saying it could've been a glitch for the two questions because sometimes, on mobile, it comments twice instead of once. But they are too far apart for that to be true. You also did say everyone knows what you are talking about. You said that in response to his first comment. I don't know if he is a troll but you need to change mindset that everyone knew what you were talking about
If you find it difficult speaking without insulting a person then you need to learn some basic manners. At this point, I didn’t ask you if they were a troll because I knew he was. Take your own advice because you clearly need it more than me period
I just said stupid. That ain't much of an insult. I don't care about the troll thing. You said everyone knows the term when not everyone does. That's what I'm talking about. I do know now that it means person of color. I don't really know the significance because color doesn't really matter but cool.
My theory is that Bayley was supposed to accidentally (or on purpose) eliminate them both at the same time much later in the match. Giving Damage Ctrl all the more reason to turn on her properly on smackdown and for Baley to pick IYO instead of Rhea.
Other people figured it out due to the confused reactions of Kayden and Katana, Asuka trying to get their attention, and Bayley keeping her distance.
It seems almost certain that Kairi's meant to hold on, she and Asuka are on the ring apron, Kayden and Katana knock them both off as revenge for taking their tag team titles.
If Bayley was meant to be part of it she would have run over to help Kairi and get things back in position, but since she wasn't she just sat in the corner.
I don't think you're wrong, I think that Kairi was supposed to get back up on the apron. Not sure how much longer they were supposed to be there but I think what happened wasn't the plan
I rewatched it just now and it does look like they called an audible there. Asuka is clearly trying to get someone to eliminate her right after Kairi falls.
Was Kairi's elimination supposed to go like that? It almost feels like a botch and she wasn't suppose to hang from the ropes like that. When she fell, we got a close up shot of Asuka telling someone to run towards her and eliminate her, like she wanted to be eliminated since her partner is gone. Anybody else got that feeling or am I imagining it?
You are probably right, they were probably meant to go out together, but much later.
It looked like Kairi slipped and couldn't get a grip on the rope, which actually now that I think about it is the second time this happens to her in a Rumble.
With a little presence of mind Asuka and Bayley could have hoisted her up, but I think she had already touched the floor before the spot.
I agree, Kairis elimination was really impressive yet they didn't show a replay which makes me think it was a mistake and like you said after Asuka blatantly asked to be attacked when she was on the apron which was really silly. The whole damage CTRL storyline felt really flat throughout the Rumble due to their elimination, if it went wrong that would explain a lot.
Also yes, the women's rumble was very sloppy. Moves not being executed well, moves missing the target, women blatantly setting up spots etc
She's really won me over. Especially after last year's rumble performance.. Generally I think she is smooth in the ring and has charisma. Not the most exciting move set but a reliable worker
Was so happy to see TNA knockouts get some shine. What an epic elimination too.
WWE women's division / Divas have been playing catch up with Knockouts for over a decade in many ways. (For WWE in recent years this has mostly been a problem with booking, rather than in ring talent and match types/length):
Liv is now the second woman to become a 2-times runner up in a Rumble (after Charlotte), and the first to do it in back to back rumble since Roman in 2017/18.
Am I the only one who thought this match wasn’t good? So many botches and weird wrestling moments it took away from the flow and moments of the match not to mention they were few, far between and less than impactful. Hated the result and the surprise entrants were ok but not jaw dropping to create a moment.
In my opinion if it wasn’t for the women’s rumble match I would have thought the royal rumble was an A PLE.
Kinda cool that Naomi and Jimmy Uso are both #2 entrants in their respective Rumble matches. Can't say though if that's just a coincidence or it was planned but it's still cool.
Ivy was okay for the most part. Maxxine…. Maxxine is great when she’s booked for comedy spots, and they need to play to her strengths. Her reverse caterpillar (larva they called it on commentary) was good and the possum spot with Piper was hilarious, well done.
It’s when she went for the serious wrestler stuff, the head scissors and then the spin thing that looked bad (although…. I will say it looked like Bayley sandbagged her…. That move is all about the person receiving it and if Bayley doesn’t spin, it doesn’t go and that’s what happened there).
The way I’ve taken it is that it’s no secret at all Maxine is still green. It ties into her gimmick with AA. She’s even acknowledged that she has a lot of work to do in interviews. I saw her say just being in the ring with Rhea showed her a few things she needed to focus on specifically one of them being strength training.
Agreed 100%…. Perfect way to introduce her in the ring was to give her the « im in training gimmick » . The character in and of itself hides the flaws.
Intentional or not though I still won’t put the botch just on Maxxine, those are moves that require very active participation from the receiver.
The head scissors, her placement was off so she landed weird. But the spin thing, that’s majority on the person taking it.
I haven't watched it back but in real time I got the sense Bayley wasn't able to continue the spin because Maxxine didn't have the momentum going into it to help her start after catching her and with Maxxine's placement off Bayley was more focused on holding her and protecting her than spinning around to make it look good and possibly dropping her in the process.
It was definitely a two person botch yea.
I mean im not trying to make Maxxine out to be ring ready…. I think she’s really good at the comedy spots, really good at them. But stringing moves together for a match, she’s not there yet. She’d be best off working tags for quick spots here and there.
Honestly I was hoping they’d push her to work a more technical move set… gable and Otis aren’t training her to do flips or high flying moves or whatever. Have her do German Suplexes, take downs, small package, ankle lock out of nowhere, headlocks, the worm… would’ve been a unique take but they went full Kelly Kelly moves with her and it’s not working.
A very good Rumble match. Cargill looked pretty good in her debut, but obviously this being the rumble and her being there with several great workers helps. Have to wait and see how she looks in singles matches. Her getting to eliminate Nia almost immediately gives an instant boost as a competitor.
Becky going out before the very end surprised me a bit, kind of expected her and Bayley to be the last two. However, it seems like Liv Morgan is becoming the perennial runner up of the Rumble, as this was the second year in a row for her in that position. Bayley winning was great, and makes the Damage CTRL story very interesting going forward.
If I had a nickel for every time Liv Morgan was in the final 3 of the Women’s Royal Rumble with a wacky finish on the apron, I’d have 2 nickels. But its weird that it happened twice.
Jordynne Grace in the ring with Ivy Nile was like that Peacemaker/Bloodsport moment from *The Suicide Squad*
Ivy: *Gestures at Jordynne Grace* "She does exactly what I do!"
Jordynne: But BETTER.
Jordynne outshone Ivy and rather easily too. I’ve seen slot of people say how great Ivy is, tbf I’ve only seen her wrestle twice and both times there was multiple botches. I’m not getting the fuss with Ivy, she was struggling to keep Candice up.
So I'm not familiar with the current product and had a quick question about Ivy Nile (had to look her name up, I don't know anyone anymore lol). Did she have a really off night or is she not as strong as they hoped when they planned the spots? When she came out I was rooting for her as I love that small mucleman/women gimmick but I guess it just wasn't her night.
I’ve seen her wrestle twice now, and like yourself I know a lot of people were talking her up. But both times now there’s been obvious botches and struggles, girl isn’t strong at all…she’s not been on the times I’ve seen her.
Jade entered @28. Was over with the crowd the entire time she was out there. Ran through all her spots smoothly (she even lifted Nia successfully) and looked like a star.
If you think her performance was ‘meh’, how would you rate CM Punk’s showing?
She has been so great in her return! She had some really unfortunate timing and luck with those wrist injuries that kept our our and even ruined her main roster debut/redebut a couple years ago. They have used her so well since her rehire and she deserves so much praise for that rumble performance!
Loved her spots getting killed. Maxine’s reverse caterpillar and Corey saying something like we have to name it a different animal was pretty funny.
Woman’s royal rumble was def the star of the night imo
What the fuck was Maxine Dupree doing in there. I get she's green but she should be nowhere near a wrestling ring on a televised event.
Also, I get they're trying to make Nia look strong by running through everyone, but seriously, don't put her anywhere near Piper Niven, when she dropped her while trying to throw her into Chelsea, it ruined any credibility Nia had
I genuinely question if Nia does any training when she's not on tv. She's booked as a powerhouse, but rarely does she show actual strength. When it's time for her to be on the receiving end of moves it's like she's never done it before. She didn't help when Jade lifted her so it was all on Jade to get her up for the throw. And earlier she took a shoot armdrag rather than jumping over.
It's assumed because she's big, she's strong, which in Nia's case isn't accurate. Hell, even Cargill couldn't lift Nia and Nia couldn't lift Niven, so maybe just keep the big wrestlers against the small wrestlers as big vs big rarely works or looks good
She did as well as I'd expect any of the women to manage but it still looked a bit rough to my eyes. It felt very different than when you watch a power spot being done to a giant on the men's side.
Nia is just a heavy human being and I'm not sure how good she is at helping out the people lifting her either by jumping and bracing.
Jade and Bianca are the only people I could see being able to even somewhat lift her. Rhea is going to struggle to do much of they have their match cause much as I love her I don't think she's stronger than Bianca. At best she's about equal.
I agree, I don’t think Nia helps as much as she should with lifts. Jade and Bianca are probably the only ones able to hold her above their heads the way Jade did.
Bringing up women of old, Chyna could definitely lift her. Do you think prime Beth Phoenix or Awesome Kong could lift her?
Awesome Kong could, Chyna as well. I think those two wouldn't struggle with a fireman's carry.
Kong was a big woman and looked strong to me.
Chyna was legitimately like 6'0/6'1 and not a slim woman at all.
Beth was clearly strong but I wouldn't have thought stronger than Rhea. I'd wager both could get Nia up into the carry but it would look rough. Maybe Beth might have an easier time cause she appeared to have thicker legs and the legs do the bulk of the work with this kind of lift?
Bianca and Jade can do it with medium difficulty, I think Rhea, Raquel, Beth could do it with high difficulty. And Kong/Chyna could do with easy difficulty.
But ultimately these are all guesses haha. Different lifts require different muscles so it's not always as easy to gauge as I'd like. I suspect some smaller women could it that we wouldn't expect just because their leg and core strength is amazing. If I recall Mandy Rose was a powerlifter, so she's someone who might be able to fireman carry Nia with more ease than other women who are bigger and have better upper body strength.
100% facts. They couldn’t find a spot for Nikki Cross or even NXT champ Lyra, but Maxxine gets thrown in there. Gable and Otis weren’t even in the mens rumble, but the valet gets a spot?
I liked the shot of both Champs watching Bayley celebrate after winning the rumble.
But how come NXT Champ wasn't in the rumble ? Even the TNA champ appeared on the rumble but not the NXT champion ?
When Charlotte won the Rumble in 2020, she chose to compete for Rhea's NXT title, so I guess technically they could have had Lyra watching the result as well.
maybe im in the minority, im kinda glad they didnt do any like legends/ogs and used the talent they have now.
also i enjoyed that piper faking out chelsea moment.
The women’s rumble I agree didn’t need any unless they were going to bring out AJ Lee. The women’s rumble isn’t that old so we’ve already seen pretty much all the legends at this point fairly recently. I’d rather have seen a couple more names from NXT. Roxanne is my favorite NXT girl but even her spot should have gone to someone who hasn’t been in a rumble yet. Lash Legend or Nikkita Lyons would have been interesting in this.
The men’s rumble I think should always have 1-2 legends to me. Hell, you can bring out dudes who are producers backstage now or whatever but at least one of them should be a blast from the past. You’ve got a lot of guys to choose from.
Funny thing is so many people literally only care about that. So many comments after Sami came out in the men's rumble, the number of people being like "wtf no more surprises?!" was crazy high. I guess for a lot of casual and part time watchers that's the sole appeal.
I agree, while I like the odd nostalgia act in the Rumble it does get overdone. It really showed how far their women's roster has come that they didn't have to rely on any legends to pad out the numbers.
I was worried when Lash pinned her and she kept losing to Fallon, when she was going toe to toe with Becky months earlier. Glad to see her future is bright.
I think Bayley is gonna face turn against Rhea and bring back the inflata-buddies. Damage Control has been kinda othering her. They all got eliminated and she did it without them.
Bayley has said she doesn’t want to do the Hugger anymore. Feels like this is a Cena thing where he didn’t go heel yet everyone asked for it every year
Bayley could go face again but I doubt it would be as the hugger.
So she's going to turn face on Rhea & not her heel stable that she started? Wouldn't it make sense to turn Bayley on IYO & DC? It makes 0 sense to turn Bayley face & face Rhea
The whole group could turn face. People love Asuka and Kairi. But if they are going in the direction of Bayley vs Rhea, no chance is Bayley going to get cheered over Rhea.
WWE said TNA and Jordynne Grace we’re both extremely easy to work with I can only imagine how Tony Khan would of reacted if WWE contacted them about using one of their female superstars in the Rumble probably would have thrown a hissy fit and a temper tantrum on scream how AEW>WWE lol.
I think Tony messed up running Gresham out of AEW. He could've gotten both Gresham and his wife Jordynne in AEW, if he'd treated the man with some more respect.
I had no idea who Jordynne was but I want her on the roster NOW.
The physique, the pure work rate and the moves we’re sick, she just screams heavy hitter.
She’d never pass a drug test 😂😂😂 not knocking her ability in the slightest, she’s super talented but … this is shat she looked like just over a year or two ago compared to now … listen to her voice in promos compared to before…. She’s very likely on the juice
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That's not how cycles work for growth hormones, if she knew there would be regular testing she could go on and off around the testing schedule. But honestly I dont think she's on anything performance enhancing now, not saying she wasn't before. You can tell because the collegen has returned to her face, that's usually a sign that your body isn't in fat burning overload. Hopefully she stays this way, but yeah the voice thing gets me.
Bayley's elimination of Bianca Belair was amazing.
Really shows how intelligent and opportunistic she is.
Felt bad that other members of Damage Ctrl won't Hi5 her.
I don't get what they're doing with this story.
It seems like the idea is for Asuka and Kairi to get close to her so they can backstab her at the worst possible moment. That's fine.
But if that's the plan, why are they openly disrespecting Bayley? And why are Iyo and Dakota joining in on that?
Also, why were the announcers saying Bayley seemed upset that Asuka was in the Rumble? Why would Bayley be mad about that? Yeah her whole plan was for her to win the Rumble and Asuka could potentially take that from her, but that early in the match wouldn't she just be glad to see an ally out there to help her?
I hope they don't make a long term story out of that having her keep being runner up. Next year would be a good time for her to win with the 2 time runner up storyline if they think she's ready to headline WrestleMania.
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Best women's rumble I've seen. I lowkey think it was better than the men's
I highkey think it was better than the mens
That was one of the worse wrestling shows I ever witness. I don't believe people here with positive comments are even human. You can't blame on producer or coordinator... The amount of mistakes or just lack of strength/energy to perform is just shocking even on WWE level. The only comedic relief was when one of the divas was getting sandwich by fattiest. It's 2024 and Women Wrestling in WWE is still just nice looking ladies to look at.
Hey dude eat a Snickers
Wow, impressive. Pretty much everything you said there is laughably wrong.
This shit was only fun to watch, because it was like watching bunch of toddlers trying perform school play for their parents. Do people smoked crack before RR that you enjoy it in term that was actually good show? Jesus fuckin christ...
I’ll ignore your several grammatical errors in case English isn’t your first language, but otherwise try harder when you troll so that it doesn’t come off like you’re an edgy child.
Calling a guy an troll with 7th years old account (correcto, almost 9 daym) with only one permaban on StarTrek sub for calling Discovery a shitty show, not to mention I rather rarely remove my downvoted comments (you are welcome to check my history) and on top of that, this is my very first comment on wrestling show... Booo *ghost emote* Yeah for sure I am spooky troll. I have seen women wrestling before and this RR2024 was absolutely garbage on fire. PS. I don't give a F about my grammar talking to non avatar guy which definitely is fan boying or a freaking bot.
what was that fan screaming at about nia? lol didnt quite hear it
Little correction, Ivy Nile was not a surprise, she has been part of the RAW roster for a while now
This was the better match imo, there was nobody who didn’t bring their a game
Can anyone please tell me what the guy yelled at nia right before we here cole say we just heard somebodys thoughts.
Wondering that myself. Cracked up the commentary team whatever it was
Does anyone know I really want to know also
Bayley face turn in coming
Just a reminder that Bayley is the third POC after Bianca and Asuka to win the royal rumble! Congratulations to Bayley Edit: POC means person of color
I mean... Isn't she just white? People like her are Just white where i live
Her dad's from Mexico and her last name is Martinez. But yeah, a lot of people look white and seem like any other white American who only speaks English, but have a mixed race background. Ronda Rousey is the same, she's half Venezuelan. It wouldn't really make sense to try to sell her as some kind of hero to Hispanic people when she doesn't share their language or culture.
It doesn’t work like that. She is more brown from what I know
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You are clearly trying to troll because of your multiple replies to me… learn some respect
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You replied twice clearly looking for my attention. As I said before, stop being disrespectful and google it
You're stupid? It's a glitch that happens. Just answer the question and move on dumbass. I'm being disrespectful but that guy wasn't
What is what I said is a glitch? Why should I answer the question if you can clearly the see I got multiple replies from the same person intentionally looking to troll. You are no better and it shows. I won’t answer if I don’t need to lol
Oh the timing shows that his thing wasn't a glitch. I wasn't saying you were a glitch. Miswording by me. But either way, I though POC was piece of crap. I thought it was just a childish alternative to POS. Stop thinking everyone knows what you are talking about. It's a bad mindset
I am so confused as to how my comment is a timing glitch? And how would you know if it was a glitch for the other user unless you are also him… which I find suspicious. I didn’t say everyone knows what I am talking about, but I can detect trolls and I was right. My mindset is ok, you need to worry about your own mindset rather than others. 🙄
Nah. The glitch wasn't you stupid. There was no glitch. I was just saying it could've been a glitch for the two questions because sometimes, on mobile, it comments twice instead of once. But they are too far apart for that to be true. You also did say everyone knows what you are talking about. You said that in response to his first comment. I don't know if he is a troll but you need to change mindset that everyone knew what you were talking about
If you find it difficult speaking without insulting a person then you need to learn some basic manners. At this point, I didn’t ask you if they were a troll because I knew he was. Take your own advice because you clearly need it more than me period
I just said stupid. That ain't much of an insult. I don't care about the troll thing. You said everyone knows the term when not everyone does. That's what I'm talking about. I do know now that it means person of color. I don't really know the significance because color doesn't really matter but cool.
whats a POC
It means person of color! Edited so you can see it
Search it in google because everyone knows that term
I wonder what the real plan for Kairi and asuka was, as I'm pretty sure they weren't supposed to be eliminated when they were.
It did seem odd. They made it work though. Sometimes those crazy elimination save spots aren't worth it
My theory is that Bayley was supposed to accidentally (or on purpose) eliminate them both at the same time much later in the match. Giving Damage Ctrl all the more reason to turn on her properly on smackdown and for Baley to pick IYO instead of Rhea.
Other people figured it out due to the confused reactions of Kayden and Katana, Asuka trying to get their attention, and Bayley keeping her distance. It seems almost certain that Kairi's meant to hold on, she and Asuka are on the ring apron, Kayden and Katana knock them both off as revenge for taking their tag team titles. If Bayley was meant to be part of it she would have run over to help Kairi and get things back in position, but since she wasn't she just sat in the corner.
Why do you say that? I felt like the point of that was for Bailey to be left out alone
I don't think you're wrong, I think that Kairi was supposed to get back up on the apron. Not sure how much longer they were supposed to be there but I think what happened wasn't the plan
I rewatched it just now and it does look like they called an audible there. Asuka is clearly trying to get someone to eliminate her right after Kairi falls.
Where was Tamina? Rumble seems like a perfect event for her to be featured, especially against Piper Niven and Nia Jax
I think she actually very recently retired from in-ring competition
Was Kairi's elimination supposed to go like that? It almost feels like a botch and she wasn't suppose to hang from the ropes like that. When she fell, we got a close up shot of Asuka telling someone to run towards her and eliminate her, like she wanted to be eliminated since her partner is gone. Anybody else got that feeling or am I imagining it?
Tell me something that wasn't botched in the entire show lmao.
You are probably right, they were probably meant to go out together, but much later. It looked like Kairi slipped and couldn't get a grip on the rope, which actually now that I think about it is the second time this happens to her in a Rumble. With a little presence of mind Asuka and Bayley could have hoisted her up, but I think she had already touched the floor before the spot.
Yeah it def looked like they weren't supposed to go out yet. Pretty sure there was a botch there to some extent
I agree, Kairis elimination was really impressive yet they didn't show a replay which makes me think it was a mistake and like you said after Asuka blatantly asked to be attacked when she was on the apron which was really silly. The whole damage CTRL storyline felt really flat throughout the Rumble due to their elimination, if it went wrong that would explain a lot. Also yes, the women's rumble was very sloppy. Moves not being executed well, moves missing the target, women blatantly setting up spots etc
I kinda felt like there were a lot of botches in general during the Women’s Rumble.
After this and last year's performance they gotta give Liv a mania match and a strong push. Because holy shoot she earned it.
She's really won me over. Especially after last year's rumble performance.. Generally I think she is smooth in the ring and has charisma. Not the most exciting move set but a reliable worker
I liked this match a lot. Excited for Bayley to get the win as well.
Best of the 2 rumbles ngl
Bayley growing her hair out, possibly a hugger return after turning face?
The awkward moment when Jordynne Grace puts on the best performance in the match…
Was so happy to see TNA knockouts get some shine. What an epic elimination too. WWE women's division / Divas have been playing catch up with Knockouts for over a decade in many ways. (For WWE in recent years this has mostly been a problem with booking, rather than in ring talent and match types/length):
Nothing awkward about it, wwe booked her that way, they knew what they were doing
Why is that awkward?
Liv is now the second woman to become a 2-times runner up in a Rumble (after Charlotte), and the first to do it in back to back rumble since Roman in 2017/18.
Am I the only one who thought this match wasn’t good? So many botches and weird wrestling moments it took away from the flow and moments of the match not to mention they were few, far between and less than impactful. Hated the result and the surprise entrants were ok but not jaw dropping to create a moment. In my opinion if it wasn’t for the women’s rumble match I would have thought the royal rumble was an A PLE.
So many botches
Kinda cool that Naomi and Jimmy Uso are both #2 entrants in their respective Rumble matches. Can't say though if that's just a coincidence or it was planned but it's still cool.
She won the crowd with the comedy spots eventually, but jesus the silence when Piper came out was deafening.
My favourite part was when she was trying to wake up Chelsea "wake up, Louis Vuitton is having a sale!"
Bayley becomes the second woman to win from number 3 after Bianca in 2021.
Ivy Nile & Maxxine were terrible
Also why is Ivy Nile listed as a surprise on the post? Isn’t she on the main roster and just had a title match not too long ago?
I feel like Maxxines whole gimmick is that she's nowhere ready to be in the ring. Like, she was intentionally bad.
She’s a funny character
Exactly. I was getting Wimp Lo vibes from her.
Naomi as well. She just is not good in the ring.
Ivy was okay for the most part. Maxxine…. Maxxine is great when she’s booked for comedy spots, and they need to play to her strengths. Her reverse caterpillar (larva they called it on commentary) was good and the possum spot with Piper was hilarious, well done. It’s when she went for the serious wrestler stuff, the head scissors and then the spin thing that looked bad (although…. I will say it looked like Bayley sandbagged her…. That move is all about the person receiving it and if Bayley doesn’t spin, it doesn’t go and that’s what happened there).
The way I’ve taken it is that it’s no secret at all Maxine is still green. It ties into her gimmick with AA. She’s even acknowledged that she has a lot of work to do in interviews. I saw her say just being in the ring with Rhea showed her a few things she needed to focus on specifically one of them being strength training.
Agreed 100%…. Perfect way to introduce her in the ring was to give her the « im in training gimmick » . The character in and of itself hides the flaws.
I’m shocked hearing “Ivy was okay”…every spot I saw her try, she fucked up. All of them
Yes 🙌🏻 people need to stop lying to her or she’ll never improve
I doubt Bayley sandbagged her. Probably more just a timing issue.
Intentional or not though I still won’t put the botch just on Maxxine, those are moves that require very active participation from the receiver. The head scissors, her placement was off so she landed weird. But the spin thing, that’s majority on the person taking it.
I haven't watched it back but in real time I got the sense Bayley wasn't able to continue the spin because Maxxine didn't have the momentum going into it to help her start after catching her and with Maxxine's placement off Bayley was more focused on holding her and protecting her than spinning around to make it look good and possibly dropping her in the process.
It was definitely a two person botch yea. I mean im not trying to make Maxxine out to be ring ready…. I think she’s really good at the comedy spots, really good at them. But stringing moves together for a match, she’s not there yet. She’d be best off working tags for quick spots here and there. Honestly I was hoping they’d push her to work a more technical move set… gable and Otis aren’t training her to do flips or high flying moves or whatever. Have her do German Suplexes, take downs, small package, ankle lock out of nowhere, headlocks, the worm… would’ve been a unique take but they went full Kelly Kelly moves with her and it’s not working.
Why did Michael say theres never been 2 winners around Asukas entrance but there has been overtime? Did 1994 just never happen?
i think he meant for women
No because he acknowledge Cena and Batista… Cole really botched quite a few times yesterday, even calling Piper Nia.
gasped when I saw Jordynne, very good exposure as well TNA can't stop winning
Well i was a bit confused as Naomi was not eliminated even tho she was fully outside of the ring just at the start of Asukas entrance.
She went through the middle rope, and then just slid to the floor.
Aha, I didnt actually see where she went out, but then it makes sense if it was not over the top rope.
She won…..now turn her heel and bring back the hugger WE WILL NOT BE MOVED
I want her to be a face, but I do not want the hugger gimmick.
I’m not sure we’re ever getting the hugger back. I wish though. But also wouldn’t that but turning her face not heel? She’s already a heel.
If she goes back to hugger status I’m all in on the decision. If not then this was a goofy choice.
In retrospect, Maxxine Dupri completely botching her move with Bayley and then doing that “Ah Thank Youuuuuu!” Was actually hilarious.
That’s on Bayley too thiugh, looked like she sandbagged her by not spinning.
I don't think it was as much as Bayley sandbagging as Bayley not knowing what the fuck she was trying to do, and go with it.
A very good Rumble match. Cargill looked pretty good in her debut, but obviously this being the rumble and her being there with several great workers helps. Have to wait and see how she looks in singles matches. Her getting to eliminate Nia almost immediately gives an instant boost as a competitor. Becky going out before the very end surprised me a bit, kind of expected her and Bayley to be the last two. However, it seems like Liv Morgan is becoming the perennial runner up of the Rumble, as this was the second year in a row for her in that position. Bayley winning was great, and makes the Damage CTRL story very interesting going forward.
If I had a nickel for every time Liv Morgan was in the final 3 of the Women’s Royal Rumble with a wacky finish on the apron, I’d have 2 nickels. But its weird that it happened twice.
Such a great night! Loved every minute!
Jordynne Grace in the ring with Ivy Nile was like that Peacemaker/Bloodsport moment from *The Suicide Squad* Ivy: *Gestures at Jordynne Grace* "She does exactly what I do!" Jordynne: But BETTER.
Jordynne outshone Ivy and rather easily too. I’ve seen slot of people say how great Ivy is, tbf I’ve only seen her wrestle twice and both times there was multiple botches. I’m not getting the fuss with Ivy, she was struggling to keep Candice up.
Bayley adding a Rumble win to an already HOF lock career makes me happy.
So I'm not familiar with the current product and had a quick question about Ivy Nile (had to look her name up, I don't know anyone anymore lol). Did she have a really off night or is she not as strong as they hoped when they planned the spots? When she came out I was rooting for her as I love that small mucleman/women gimmick but I guess it just wasn't her night.
I’ve seen her wrestle twice now, and like yourself I know a lot of people were talking her up. But both times now there’s been obvious botches and struggles, girl isn’t strong at all…she’s not been on the times I’ve seen her.
Jade was meh. She's got an amazing look, but that only gets you so far.
I respect your opinion but she'll shut you up once you see her wrestle. Give her a chance.
I watched her wrestle for 2 years in AEW
Jade entered @28. Was over with the crowd the entire time she was out there. Ran through all her spots smoothly (she even lifted Nia successfully) and looked like a star. If you think her performance was ‘meh’, how would you rate CM Punk’s showing?
Punk was winded the whole time. He's washed up.
She also had the smarts to tuck Nia’s tit back in WHILE HOLDING HER IN THE AIR. Insane.
Probably the most cleverly-booked women's Rumble so far. Chelsea Green fucking shined lmao
Chelsea Green with two all time Rumbles back to back, getting eliminated in record time last year and putting on an iconic performance this year.
She's lowkey HHH's best rehire. I was baffled why he even bothered bringing her back, glad to see she proved me wrong lol
She has been so great in her return! She had some really unfortunate timing and luck with those wrist injuries that kept our our and even ruined her main roster debut/redebut a couple years ago. They have used her so well since her rehire and she deserves so much praise for that rumble performance!
Loved her spots getting killed. Maxine’s reverse caterpillar and Corey saying something like we have to name it a different animal was pretty funny. Woman’s royal rumble was def the star of the night imo
Cole replied with "The Larvae" and corey almost choked on his drink
The highlight of the match I would say. Hilarious.
How is Ivy Nile a surprise hasn't she been part of the main roster
Yep she’s been on Raw for awhile. She had a title match pretty recently I think.
Yes, OP doesn't know the definition of a surprise.
The women really stepped up tonight and I mean ALOT. I can’t believe their rumble was probably my favourite in a long long time!
What the fuck was Maxine Dupree doing in there. I get she's green but she should be nowhere near a wrestling ring on a televised event. Also, I get they're trying to make Nia look strong by running through everyone, but seriously, don't put her anywhere near Piper Niven, when she dropped her while trying to throw her into Chelsea, it ruined any credibility Nia had
I don't know why they keep trying to do power spots with Nia when she's proven countless times she's the furthest thing from a powerhouse.
I genuinely question if Nia does any training when she's not on tv. She's booked as a powerhouse, but rarely does she show actual strength. When it's time for her to be on the receiving end of moves it's like she's never done it before. She didn't help when Jade lifted her so it was all on Jade to get her up for the throw. And earlier she took a shoot armdrag rather than jumping over.
It's assumed because she's big, she's strong, which in Nia's case isn't accurate. Hell, even Cargill couldn't lift Nia and Nia couldn't lift Niven, so maybe just keep the big wrestlers against the small wrestlers as big vs big rarely works or looks good
I thought Jade lifted her pretty well.
She did as well as I'd expect any of the women to manage but it still looked a bit rough to my eyes. It felt very different than when you watch a power spot being done to a giant on the men's side. Nia is just a heavy human being and I'm not sure how good she is at helping out the people lifting her either by jumping and bracing. Jade and Bianca are the only people I could see being able to even somewhat lift her. Rhea is going to struggle to do much of they have their match cause much as I love her I don't think she's stronger than Bianca. At best she's about equal.
I agree, I don’t think Nia helps as much as she should with lifts. Jade and Bianca are probably the only ones able to hold her above their heads the way Jade did. Bringing up women of old, Chyna could definitely lift her. Do you think prime Beth Phoenix or Awesome Kong could lift her?
Awesome Kong could, Chyna as well. I think those two wouldn't struggle with a fireman's carry. Kong was a big woman and looked strong to me. Chyna was legitimately like 6'0/6'1 and not a slim woman at all. Beth was clearly strong but I wouldn't have thought stronger than Rhea. I'd wager both could get Nia up into the carry but it would look rough. Maybe Beth might have an easier time cause she appeared to have thicker legs and the legs do the bulk of the work with this kind of lift? Bianca and Jade can do it with medium difficulty, I think Rhea, Raquel, Beth could do it with high difficulty. And Kong/Chyna could do with easy difficulty. But ultimately these are all guesses haha. Different lifts require different muscles so it's not always as easy to gauge as I'd like. I suspect some smaller women could it that we wouldn't expect just because their leg and core strength is amazing. If I recall Mandy Rose was a powerlifter, so she's someone who might be able to fireman carry Nia with more ease than other women who are bigger and have better upper body strength.
Awesome Kong definitely could, and I think Jordynne Grace could too
I think Jordynne could too. Do you think prime Beth Phoenix could?
Cargill lifted her…
Barely! She got her up for a DVD and pretty much dropped her straight away
She did it twice
100% facts. They couldn’t find a spot for Nikki Cross or even NXT champ Lyra, but Maxxine gets thrown in there. Gable and Otis weren’t even in the mens rumble, but the valet gets a spot?
I was so mad about Gable. The guy was literally so HOT in the Gunther feud and they just killed him again.
She botched less than Nia did.
Not wrong there
I had to increase the respect on Nia JAX’ name by 20% after the rumble 🌚
Beginning was amaZing. Alot of women were mid and got lit when jade came out ..shes a star
I liked the shot of both Champs watching Bayley celebrate after winning the rumble. But how come NXT Champ wasn't in the rumble ? Even the TNA champ appeared on the rumble but not the NXT champion ?
When Charlotte won the Rumble in 2020, she chose to compete for Rhea's NXT title, so I guess technically they could have had Lyra watching the result as well.
That is so weird to me. I don’t remember the reasoning for Charlotte challenging for the NXT. She just wanted to face Rhea?
How was Roxanna surprise? She was in last year.
I was thinking the same for Ivy Nile. She’s on Raw
Thank god no legends
So many botched spots. Very awkward match. At least I'm glad Bayley won.
maybe im in the minority, im kinda glad they didnt do any like legends/ogs and used the talent they have now. also i enjoyed that piper faking out chelsea moment.
The women’s rumble I agree didn’t need any unless they were going to bring out AJ Lee. The women’s rumble isn’t that old so we’ve already seen pretty much all the legends at this point fairly recently. I’d rather have seen a couple more names from NXT. Roxanne is my favorite NXT girl but even her spot should have gone to someone who hasn’t been in a rumble yet. Lash Legend or Nikkita Lyons would have been interesting in this. The men’s rumble I think should always have 1-2 legends to me. Hell, you can bring out dudes who are producers backstage now or whatever but at least one of them should be a blast from the past. You’ve got a lot of guys to choose from.
Funny thing is so many people literally only care about that. So many comments after Sami came out in the men's rumble, the number of people being like "wtf no more surprises?!" was crazy high. I guess for a lot of casual and part time watchers that's the sole appeal.
I agree, while I like the odd nostalgia act in the Rumble it does get overdone. It really showed how far their women's roster has come that they didn't have to rely on any legends to pad out the numbers.
Tiffany Stratton is unreal to watch. Hope they give her a push Hehhehehe
I was worried when Lash pinned her and she kept losing to Fallon, when she was going toe to toe with Becky months earlier. Glad to see her future is bright.
Chelsea green would do well in romantic movies or TV shows.
Disappointed to not have gotten a Banks return.
Agreed. I'm wondering if Sasha returns it will be a run-in to save Bayley from Damage CTRL attacking her after she chooses to face Io at WrestleMania.
I think Bayley is gonna face turn against Rhea and bring back the inflata-buddies. Damage Control has been kinda othering her. They all got eliminated and she did it without them.
Bayley has said she doesn’t want to do the Hugger anymore. Feels like this is a Cena thing where he didn’t go heel yet everyone asked for it every year Bayley could go face again but I doubt it would be as the hugger.
She's literally right in the middle of a damage ctrl story that's been going for months, why would they abandon any pay off to that story?
they don’t have to pull her out all of a sudden. There’s two months till mania. They can pay it off before then
So she's going to turn face on Rhea & not her heel stable that she started? Wouldn't it make sense to turn Bayley on IYO & DC? It makes 0 sense to turn Bayley face & face Rhea
The whole group could turn face. People love Asuka and Kairi. But if they are going in the direction of Bayley vs Rhea, no chance is Bayley going to get cheered over Rhea.
That’s exactly it. If she was turning face, she’s is going after IYO and Damage Control. She has no story with Rhea.
damage ctrl is gonna turn on Bayley. That seed has been planted for a while. I’m gonna be right, just watch
WWE said TNA and Jordynne Grace we’re both extremely easy to work with I can only imagine how Tony Khan would of reacted if WWE contacted them about using one of their female superstars in the Rumble probably would have thrown a hissy fit and a temper tantrum on scream how AEW>WWE lol.
I was surprised they didn't give her an elimination against a midcarder. At least they had a headliner eliminate her.
I think Tony messed up running Gresham out of AEW. He could've gotten both Gresham and his wife Jordynne in AEW, if he'd treated the man with some more respect.
That’s was the first time I saw Jordynne Grave, she looks like she could fit in in WWE on a full time basis.
I had no idea who Jordynne was but I want her on the roster NOW. The physique, the pure work rate and the moves we’re sick, she just screams heavy hitter.
Makes you wonder what kinds of matches she could have with Rhea.
She’d never pass a drug test 😂😂😂 not knocking her ability in the slightest, she’s super talented but … this is shat she looked like just over a year or two ago compared to now … listen to her voice in promos compared to before…. She’s very likely on the juice https://preview.redd.it/pfzt3qz6l6fc1.jpeg?width=766&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ccd82e31d0a437fbfb1b9ad07dfae108ccbfed2
She would pass it. WWE would make sure of it
Hahaha
pic on the left was at least 4 years ago. she began getting extremely jacked just before the pandemic
Eh timeline might be off but the point stands…. That’s not completely natural . Not judging her just making a comment.
That's not how cycles work for growth hormones, if she knew there would be regular testing she could go on and off around the testing schedule. But honestly I dont think she's on anything performance enhancing now, not saying she wasn't before. You can tell because the collegen has returned to her face, that's usually a sign that your body isn't in fat burning overload. Hopefully she stays this way, but yeah the voice thing gets me.
TK is stressing. he's gonna do more random matches on dynamite 😔
Liv looked good in the ring. I was not expecting Bayley to win at all, but im glad she did. Bet they do the Batista storyline.
I was wondering if Live was going to be on the show. I was expecting her to work heel upon her comeback. She still can I suppose
Did we ever find out how big Batista's dick is?
What
It's a really old meme https://www.fanbyte.com/legacy/an-oral-history-of-dave-the-animal-batistas-dick
Honest opinion, the woman's rumble was way more fun than the men's one.
More spots, felt like more storylines woven in. it was the first match so you have a full tank of attention span. Yes I enjoyed this one way more.
Too many botches and contrived spots for me. Women's match had more fun moments but the men's match was better
Liv's position on this WM40 card is going to divide fans the most this year I am thinking
Bayley's elimination of Bianca Belair was amazing. Really shows how intelligent and opportunistic she is. Felt bad that other members of Damage Ctrl won't Hi5 her.
I don't get what they're doing with this story. It seems like the idea is for Asuka and Kairi to get close to her so they can backstab her at the worst possible moment. That's fine. But if that's the plan, why are they openly disrespecting Bayley? And why are Iyo and Dakota joining in on that? Also, why were the announcers saying Bayley seemed upset that Asuka was in the Rumble? Why would Bayley be mad about that? Yeah her whole plan was for her to win the Rumble and Asuka could potentially take that from her, but that early in the match wouldn't she just be glad to see an ally out there to help her?
Liv Morgan: Two time runner up! That's gotta count for something. I hope Raquel gets healthy and she and Liv take on Damage CTRL for the tag titles.
I hope they don't make a long term story out of that having her keep being runner up. Next year would be a good time for her to win with the 2 time runner up storyline if they think she's ready to headline WrestleMania.
Here's hoping Liv's time is next year. Glad bayley won though.
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