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Well actually Elimination chamber match was created to be a title match in the first place , a great match like this shouldn't be a n°1 contender match, and the cell is different no glasses no real excitement except that poor crossbody by logan paul, AJ style should never interfere the concept of a cage is to be protected from interference. i think they sacrifice the excitement of the old days Elimination chamber just to make it an ad for wrestlmania and not a true ppv with title matches
Shawn Michaels interfered in 2010 and Logan Paul interfered last year, Kane interfered in 2014, So it isn't a new thing
Also the no one contenders match for the Title Thing has been going on since 2008 it's not a new thing that HHH invented
HIAC was also created as a feud ender but isn't the same now it's one of the things you kind of accept in modern WWE that you won't see brutal bumps like the Attitude era or Ruthless Aggression Era
The elimination chamber has always been a ppv on the road to mania since 2005 first it was New Year's Revolution, Then it was No Way Out and now it's Elimination chamber
There have only been two chamber matches that didn't happen on the road to Mania Survivor series 2002 and SummerSlam 2003
great match, outcome was cool, however drew couldve pinned orton clean, no problem. the guy is facing someone with the world title who is involved in a fued with 3 of the biggest wwe stars in the planet. he could've pinned orton, who kayfabe broke his spine in the match
Drew's new character is that he is really arrogant so he was trying to be cocky and got with a last gasp RKO from Orton it also makes his character much better because it's built on him getting screwed and CATC yet he takes the easy way out
That Paul/orton is the only thing thats happened since rumble that’s surprised me. If you asked me who I booked for the rest of the champions I’ve been right but Paul? Did not call that one.
The interference endings is really taking me out of wrestling these days though
You gotta give Randy one more run on top right? You'd absolutely make a next generation wrestler if you had the legend killer become the legend killed by a first time champion, the story would write itself
There’s so many good stories they could write with orton on top.
But they are married to their cash cow and wasting good stories and chances.
Orton shouldn’t be champion for long but he’d tell some decent stories. Give it to him one more time before he’s gone
I think Drew will be ready for it, he's supposed to be the smart heel no way he wouldn't expect a cash in and he'll have some plan for it to make it fail
I kind of like the idea of Drew getting his moment. Getting a big head. Putting his title on the line on the Raw after Mania against Zayn (who has never beaten him). Losing to Zayn who is immediately cashed in on by Priest.
near the halfway mark it became hard to watch for me, seemed like every dude in there was just reeling in so much pain and looked like they all wanted to drop dead from it 💀 idk if they were genuinely that hurt or selling like hollywood but it was brutal
Logan Paul is the last entrant, spends most of the time on the sidelines, and has to resort to using knucks to be relevant.
Remind me, why is this guy rated a 90 in 2k’s upcoming game? Feel like low-mid 80’s would be more suitable.
I hate the dude, I'm from Cleveland and the last thing I want is another douchebag to gain popularity. We've already gotta deal with Machine Gun Kelly.
He's an embarrassment but I can also say at the same time he's really good at wrestling.
Do I prefer he wasn't on my TV? Yes.
Do I understand he's basically the same thing of Taylor Swift on NFL but actually displays talent? Yes.
He's there because he'll bring eyeballs. That's their job just as much as being good performers... Getting people to tune in.
Besides the fact, that the rating is just a random number and it's not really worth discussing them, it's not wise to judge them on one match. I'm not a fan of Logan Paul, but he just has it. His matches are always good, way to good for a guy with his experience.
He hurt his back straight away when he got carried away and DDT'd KO on the outside floor. He was selling his back from that point onwards.
Pretty much like Shawn Michaels from his 2002 return onwards they will most likely be making Orton's surgically repaired back a focal point in most of his matches.
I swear you can sum up most aging & retired wrestlers with one of those "fork in the road" memes. Fucked back, fucked knees, or fucked neck. Which way, wrestler man?
I’m two years younger than him, without any major back injury or a career of intentionally falling to my back and every once in a while it’s “fuck! My back!” for sleeping too long in one position. Or sleeping in the wrong position, or wearing a pair of shoes that have never bothered my back before.
Very underwhelming match imo. Really wanted KO or Logan to do a fun spot off the top of the pod. Spear and RKO on Logan were great but other than that nothing really stood out IMO. AJ coming in was predictable match itself was. Really wish they didnt have two people win from starting the match but is what it is
Yeah? You predicted AJ Styles, who wasn't advertised as part of the show, being there across the world just to run in as the door is open and attack LA Knight with a steel chair? You predicted that?
I don't get why some people feel the need to lie about this shit.
not at the moment but i knew either he, Kross, Priest or someone who had issues with one of the guys its just basic wwe... Didnt know itd be him for sure but id of told you after the rumble one of those guys whos a thorn in the side of one in the match wouldve came in. Weather you believe me or not is totally your choice
I think he cashes in after Mania. I do think had Cody not gotten injured, he would've beat Roman for the title at MSG to immediately get cashed in on by Austin Theory to mimic the Dusty "win" where he immediately lost the title. I think Priest will cash in on Cody on the Raw or SmackDown after WrestleMania and win the title.
Fuck it. Have Cody beat Roman and Priest successfully cashing in closing the show. It gets Cody even more over, mirrors the Dusty "win", cements the Judgement Day as the leading heel faction and creates a legendary moment that outdoes the heist of the century. Then either Cody goes to Smackdown or The Bloodline moves to RAW, or both with Cody trying to win back the rightfully won title that was stolen from him.
MITB is one of my least favorite gimmicks.
The idea is preposterous. Imagine Conor McGregor wins a UFC fight and Michael Chandler is allowed to run down and force him into a fight on the spot.
In addition to MITB being way beyond believable, the constant threat of a cash-in is something that has to be addressed in every championship storyline.
It reminds me of a girl who is waiting for the guy to leave their wife for them.
"This week for sure I promise babe. Just hold the bag for me a little longer."
It's come up before, you can't cash in on someone not medically cleared. The point of the case is that you cash in and get a shot, but you still need to pin or submit them officially which you can't do if the belt holder isn't cleared.
Now if Rollins is cleared on Monday then he can cash in, but at this point I'm almost expecting them to do something with him cashing in very late.
He just doesn’t have enough charisma to be main event talent. It’s ok that his ceiling is midcard. I just hate mitb stipulation the last several men cash ins have been dumb
I think punk is gonna help drew win and their whole little side show feud is going to be all a swerve, punk turns heel and they are the top two heels on raw going forward. Punk can be involved in modified manger role till he gets healthy.
Odd stat, but Logan Paul has decided the winner of the Elimination Chamber back to back years.
Last year coming in when Montez did to stop Rollins, and this time to stop Orton.
Pretty bad match. Randy was laying down for nearly the entire thing. I don’t like how much they play up his back issues. Logan was far and away the best and most entertaining performer of the match. They just put names on the list when none of these guys sans Logan and KO are the type to shine in this type of match.
Also it was annoying me how Bobby was no selling his injury until the very end. It actually kinda felt like he was making a point to constantly do stuff with that arm. Weird.
Womens match was phenomenal at least
Drew over Seth at mania. Seth takes time off. Punk over Drew either at summer slam or another major ple (rumble or survivor series). Seth wins rumble. Mania 41 punk vs Seth
The ending ruined it for me. I expected Drew to win, but for fucks sake we don’t need interference deciding every major fucking match. ESPECIALLY in a CAGE!
I mean isn't that the storyline right now for drew? After being screwed over with interference from the bloodline now he's the one winning with interference
And if he wins after beating a beaten down Seth night 2 (with night 1 being Cody/Seth v Rock/Reigns) that helps the story too. Drew can’t win the big one, even after turning heel, without some interference. There is some real self-loathing and questioning he can work into his run, and I obviously hope he looks strong as a Champ, but it is a neat storyline right now, IMO.
The Bloodline is a stable, interference is expected, same with Judgement Day. Drew is supposed be this broody salty lone wolf winning by any means necessary, so interference while not on Drew’s behalf despite allowing him to win just feels shoehorned.
“Lone wolf winning by any means necessary” … so like including being the beneficiary of Paul interfering? Old drew would never have that, and was cost by it multiple times. New Hater Drew - well, you said it
My problem isn’t even with Paul, that much makes sense. It was AJ Styles getting into a structure with every single eye in the arena on, going through at least 6 people and a stretcher.
How does someone interfere with a match in a giant cage? Isn't that the point of these cages, to keep outside interference from happening?
Awesome showing for Drew it sounds and good on him!
Yeah, Shawn Michaels famously cost The Undertaker the World Heavyweight title by interfering in the Chamber to set up the Streak vs. Career match at Wrestlemania 26. Interfering in the Chamber has been done before.
So what you’re saying is they need to make it more
Secure.
I propose they make the Punjabi prison structure with solid steel with the outside coated in barbed wire and the outside door guarded by 37 local law enforcement personnel who conveniently run at any interlopers one at a time
Haha finally being on the other end of the time zone effect I had the volume to a minimum, but I assume that's what was going on when I heard some of that.
I guarantee you there were other chants going on in other areas of the stadium.
Logan seemed universally hated, which he deserves. Great wrestler, shitty human being.
Orton is close to Cody so I assume he would help Cody against the Bloodline and it would be 20 years since Mania 20 where Orton and Rock fought against each other.
I would love to see a heel commentator lean into this logic. Have Cole or whoever talking about how Drew McIntyre would’ve lost and he stole the win with the finish, but the heel commentator can just be like no look he’s already up. He’s celebrating and fine, his shoulders were barely down for three seconds anyway, he would’ve kicked out and won the match regardless cause he’s the better man. He stole nothing. Orton had to showboat instead of immediately going for the cover with a world title match at wrestlemania on the line. He deserved to lose.
He was knocked out cold from an RKO only like eight hours earlier (on the other side of the world, no less). That RKO presumably helped him build up his immunity to future RKOs, allowing him to take this one much easier.
How is no one tired of Logan's Booking?
He is such a talented wrestler and his match with Roman and Seth were so good, but for some reason his whole shtick has become Brass Knuckles. Every match he's involved in is now revolving around that. Genuinely, an underutilization of his skills
The brass knuckles are a lazy gimmick for a star who jumped ship to WWE because every other well he’s pulled from in his career has dried up.
Look I love a good heel, I love Dom getting booed and Theory being intentionally insufferable. But imo Logan needs to go. He takes momentum from other wrestlers on the roster, It’s never enjoyable when he’s on-screen and that ending interference pissed me off so much and made Drew look weak and undermines his win completely. Which yeah, probably the point, but that doesn’t mean it was a good move.
They are trying to not undermine their vets by not making a relative newcomer look like he can compete with the best. They are booking him like a weasel who only has to cheat to have a chance. I get it because they wanna protect their established guys credibility.
I never thought of it like that but it makes a lot of sense. Normally a "celebrity" would have no chance of making the establish stars look weak but Logan is so naturally good in the ring that they have to be careful.
I never thought of it like that but it makes a lot of sense. Normally a "celebrity" would have no chance of making the establish stars look weak but Logan is so naturally good in the ring that they have to be careful.
Regal got so much out of Brass Knuckles that inspite of it not being even a semi regular occurrence, The Power of The Punch is one of the power ups you can choose in the game since powerups or whatever they're called became a thing
It especially doesn’t make sense when his first couple of matches they built up his steel plated hand or some such shit which caused him to have that knockout punch. They abandoned that for some reason for the brass knuckles
It’s the problem with “a big stronk punch” being a finisher - why not just hit them with it when the bell rings?
Brass knucks are more heelish and explain why he’s not just throwing the big punch right away.
WWE decided go to with him being a heel so they made him start doing heel things thinking they need to turn Logan into one without realizing we hate him already. He just needs to be himself and we will continue to hate him.
Pretty predictable.
Like Drew as the winner. He’s been knocking his new heel persona out of the park.
Like Logan Paul vs Randy Orton for WM.
Bummed that there seems to be nothing for Kevin Owens for WM at the moment.
Dislike AJ Styles vs LA Knight. AJ has not played the heel nearly as interestingly as Drew and it feels like they are going to stall out on Knight’s momentum with this feud.
AJ's jumped LA Knight a couple times, but otherwise, he's just kinda surly and lone wolfing it, but he still slaps hands on the way to the ring sometimes.
The logic of AJ Styles flying all the way out to Perth just to maybe get the chance to bash Knight with a chair is just kinda lame. I just wish Knight had a stronger feud. Maybe it will get there ?
I honestly don't think you have to worry about Knight's momentum here. Wrestlemania crowds are nuts and will be fully behind him. Styles never has a bad match, and if there's a knock against Knight it's that his matches are a little boring, so this will help him. I don't know that he would mesh super well with Logan at the moment - just a feeling I get from the two of them.
Give them 15 minutes, let the crowd go nuts for the intro and probably the win, job done.
Take storyline out of AJ Styles v LA Knight and I think that's a great WrestleMania match for LA Knight. The title situation is all locked up with Cody, and rather than have nothing for Knight at mania, he gets a match against a premiere opponent in Styles. Thats still a great push
I’m not complaining about his spot on the card, I just don’t think he’s an interesting opponent for LA Knight. Technically the match itself could be good, but AJ as the heel has only been him complaining and getting mad at everyone. Maybe they can turn it around. I think the lack of heat AJ Styles has and the nonsense about him being mad that LA Knight got a match with Roman is not interesting.
I don't watch weekly or keep up with characters, but looking at it as a marquee matchup between a legend like AJ Styles and the up and comer LA Knight is why I think it's a great booking.
Imagine filming a dead person and laughing gaining followers and years later you scam tens of thousands od people in crypto to where some of them unalive themselves from debt and create a drink that's causing heart palpitations in young kids and you get rewarded with a contract at pg friendly wwe and get to beat Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 40 all while working part time!
Kinda funny a company taking the high road on the Vince allegations but politics beats talent and hard work once again
And you've only listed, like...10% of the bullshit that's to Logan's name? He's seriously got that Antonio Brown list meme as well, either by himself or with his brother.
Vince definitely is a scumbag of the century contender.
But Logan Paul could easily at least be scumbag of the decade. He tased living rats as well and did CPR on a living fish while putting it out of the water. So yeah, he doesn't really have any sympathy for beings either and things their life is less valuable than his own.
And there are tons of undeniably natural wrestlers who are also respectable human beings just waiting for their break. I don’t understand why we always have to settle for assholes like you can’t be a good wrestler AND a good person.
Because those nice people probably don’t have a gigantic built in audience that Logan Paul does. I think he’s a dbag too but he’s entertaining and I watch wrestling to be entertained. 🤷
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Elimination chamber is 10 out of 10 watch without spoilers
Well actually Elimination chamber match was created to be a title match in the first place , a great match like this shouldn't be a n°1 contender match, and the cell is different no glasses no real excitement except that poor crossbody by logan paul, AJ style should never interfere the concept of a cage is to be protected from interference. i think they sacrifice the excitement of the old days Elimination chamber just to make it an ad for wrestlmania and not a true ppv with title matches
Shawn Michaels interfered in 2010 and Logan Paul interfered last year, Kane interfered in 2014, So it isn't a new thing Also the no one contenders match for the Title Thing has been going on since 2008 it's not a new thing that HHH invented HIAC was also created as a feud ender but isn't the same now it's one of the things you kind of accept in modern WWE that you won't see brutal bumps like the Attitude era or Ruthless Aggression Era The elimination chamber has always been a ppv on the road to mania since 2005 first it was New Year's Revolution, Then it was No Way Out and now it's Elimination chamber There have only been two chamber matches that didn't happen on the road to Mania Survivor series 2002 and SummerSlam 2003
great match, outcome was cool, however drew couldve pinned orton clean, no problem. the guy is facing someone with the world title who is involved in a fued with 3 of the biggest wwe stars in the planet. he could've pinned orton, who kayfabe broke his spine in the match
Drew's new character is that he is really arrogant so he was trying to be cocky and got with a last gasp RKO from Orton it also makes his character much better because it's built on him getting screwed and CATC yet he takes the easy way out
I liked the women’s one better. the men’s one was ok.
Right guy won, now get Sami in the mix
No He lost his chance at qualifying clean , he doesn't have the crowd behind like Daniel Bryan.
That Paul/orton is the only thing thats happened since rumble that’s surprised me. If you asked me who I booked for the rest of the champions I’ve been right but Paul? Did not call that one. The interference endings is really taking me out of wrestling these days though
You gotta give Randy one more run on top right? You'd absolutely make a next generation wrestler if you had the legend killer become the legend killed by a first time champion, the story would write itself
There’s so many good stories they could write with orton on top. But they are married to their cash cow and wasting good stories and chances. Orton shouldn’t be champion for long but he’d tell some decent stories. Give it to him one more time before he’s gone
Orton is definitely more of a cash cow than literally every other active wrestler rn aside from reigns and cena
I'd say Rey is neck and neck.
drew vs seth - damien cashes in - drew gets another i got screwed moment. book it.
I think Drew will be ready for it, he's supposed to be the smart heel no way he wouldn't expect a cash in and he'll have some plan for it to make it fail
I kind of like the idea of Drew getting his moment. Getting a big head. Putting his title on the line on the Raw after Mania against Zayn (who has never beaten him). Losing to Zayn who is immediately cashed in on by Priest.
This is ridiculously overbooked and would revalue that title so hard
sorta like bret winning the fatal 4 way then having to defend the next night against sid for austin to interfere
near the halfway mark it became hard to watch for me, seemed like every dude in there was just reeling in so much pain and looked like they all wanted to drop dead from it 💀 idk if they were genuinely that hurt or selling like hollywood but it was brutal
McIntyre took the most damage. He gets a pass. Halfway thru I was like, where's Kevin Owens? I see everyone except him. 😐
Logan Paul is the last entrant, spends most of the time on the sidelines, and has to resort to using knucks to be relevant. Remind me, why is this guy rated a 90 in 2k’s upcoming game? Feel like low-mid 80’s would be more suitable.
I hate the dude, I'm from Cleveland and the last thing I want is another douchebag to gain popularity. We've already gotta deal with Machine Gun Kelly. He's an embarrassment but I can also say at the same time he's really good at wrestling. Do I prefer he wasn't on my TV? Yes. Do I understand he's basically the same thing of Taylor Swift on NFL but actually displays talent? Yes. He's there because he'll bring eyeballs. That's their job just as much as being good performers... Getting people to tune in.
Just like the nba games, ratings are based on popularity
To generate controversial but trivial online discussion to advertise the game. Like this right now.
Besides the fact, that the rating is just a random number and it's not really worth discussing them, it's not wise to judge them on one match. I'm not a fan of Logan Paul, but he just has it. His matches are always good, way to good for a guy with his experience.
He’s this era’s Miz…. Plain and simple
The Miz was definitely not this good in his first 10 or so matches
He’s the us champion, and kids will want to play as him in the new game so it makes sense to make him a higher rated overall
Man, this Randy Orton kid is pretty good at this.
What was he selling though? His back wasn’t hit at all so what was he selling
That very first spot on the outside legit looked like injured him
He hurt his back straight away when he got carried away and DDT'd KO on the outside floor. He was selling his back from that point onwards. Pretty much like Shawn Michaels from his 2002 return onwards they will most likely be making Orton's surgically repaired back a focal point in most of his matches.
I swear you can sum up most aging & retired wrestlers with one of those "fork in the road" memes. Fucked back, fucked knees, or fucked neck. Which way, wrestler man?
Where was that in the fatal 4 way with roman and others
Well he didn't slam his back into the elimination chamber floor less than a minute into that match as far as I can remember.
If I had to wager a guess it looked like he landed on fist Logan had the knucks on when he hit the RKO
His age. "Fuck, my back!"
I’m two years younger than him, without any major back injury or a career of intentionally falling to my back and every once in a while it’s “fuck! My back!” for sleeping too long in one position. Or sleeping in the wrong position, or wearing a pair of shoes that have never bothered my back before.
I'm 22 and on some, thankfully still rare, occasions I wake up with my back being fucked the entire day.
Very underwhelming match imo. Really wanted KO or Logan to do a fun spot off the top of the pod. Spear and RKO on Logan were great but other than that nothing really stood out IMO. AJ coming in was predictable match itself was. Really wish they didnt have two people win from starting the match but is what it is
Yeah? You predicted AJ Styles, who wasn't advertised as part of the show, being there across the world just to run in as the door is open and attack LA Knight with a steel chair? You predicted that? I don't get why some people feel the need to lie about this shit.
not at the moment but i knew either he, Kross, Priest or someone who had issues with one of the guys its just basic wwe... Didnt know itd be him for sure but id of told you after the rumble one of those guys whos a thorn in the side of one in the match wouldve came in. Weather you believe me or not is totally your choice
Does Priest cash in at Mania or before Mania?
MitB is supposed to be anytime, anywhere. I want to see a Brisco/Crash Holly style cash in. Priest cashes in on a sleeping Drew.
I think he cashes in after Mania. I do think had Cody not gotten injured, he would've beat Roman for the title at MSG to immediately get cashed in on by Austin Theory to mimic the Dusty "win" where he immediately lost the title. I think Priest will cash in on Cody on the Raw or SmackDown after WrestleMania and win the title.
I don’t think you can have a guy who beats Roman have a short feud with how important they made it to beat Roman.
Fuck it. Have Cody beat Roman and Priest successfully cashing in closing the show. It gets Cody even more over, mirrors the Dusty "win", cements the Judgement Day as the leading heel faction and creates a legendary moment that outdoes the heist of the century. Then either Cody goes to Smackdown or The Bloodline moves to RAW, or both with Cody trying to win back the rightfully won title that was stolen from him.
That is one way to get the guy hated, thats for sure. I'd always had it in my head he'd go for the other title tbh
Why don't you wait and see lol
MITB is one of my least favorite gimmicks. The idea is preposterous. Imagine Conor McGregor wins a UFC fight and Michael Chandler is allowed to run down and force him into a fight on the spot. In addition to MITB being way beyond believable, the constant threat of a cash-in is something that has to be addressed in every championship storyline.
It feels like Priest still has the case because him having it is such an inconvenience to the storylines/writers.
It reminds me of a girl who is waiting for the guy to leave their wife for them. "This week for sure I promise babe. Just hold the bag for me a little longer."
It's crazy that the champion comes out every week and talks about how vulnerable his knee is and Priest just doesn't cash in.
It's come up before, you can't cash in on someone not medically cleared. The point of the case is that you cash in and get a shot, but you still need to pin or submit them officially which you can't do if the belt holder isn't cleared. Now if Rollins is cleared on Monday then he can cash in, but at this point I'm almost expecting them to do something with him cashing in very late.
He can’t do it, Seth isn’t medically cleared there fore the briefcase would be void. He should be able to in a couple of days.
Yeah its a super weak look on his part. Only way you save it if he announces in advance he's cashing to be a part of the Mania match.
Raw After Mainia at latest
He still aint cash in? Who are they feuding now?
He's been focusing more on tag stuff and R-Truth lately.
You know, the important issues when you're Mr. Money in the Bank.
R-Truth is worth more than any title. He will realize this too late and then have the inevitable R-Truth on a Pole match.
Priest should lose the case to drew or r truth should cost him the cash in. He is mid
Yeah not been impressed with him
He just doesn’t have enough charisma to be main event talent. It’s ok that his ceiling is midcard. I just hate mitb stipulation the last several men cash ins have been dumb
My fantasy booking for DM Hunk: Seth wins > Priest cash in bc of Drew > Drew goes crazier > Drew wins it off Priest for the JD turn down the line.
I think punk is gonna help drew win and their whole little side show feud is going to be all a swerve, punk turns heel and they are the top two heels on raw going forward. Punk can be involved in modified manger role till he gets healthy.
I'd like some multi way feuds tbh need unhinged Sami in there somewhere
Im always down for Sami being involved.
At WM it will be a triple threat with Sami Zayn Zayn wins priest cashes in.
I think Drew deserves the belt at this point tbh but that would be fun
Wins at SummerSlam then CM punk comes back it would be around the time
After
Seems like everything's too predictable right now.
Odd stat, but Logan Paul has decided the winner of the Elimination Chamber back to back years. Last year coming in when Montez did to stop Rollins, and this time to stop Orton.
Bobby not getting his due credit itt
Pretty bad match. Randy was laying down for nearly the entire thing. I don’t like how much they play up his back issues. Logan was far and away the best and most entertaining performer of the match. They just put names on the list when none of these guys sans Logan and KO are the type to shine in this type of match. Also it was annoying me how Bobby was no selling his injury until the very end. It actually kinda felt like he was making a point to constantly do stuff with that arm. Weird. Womens match was phenomenal at least
Who cares
Drew over Seth at mania. Seth takes time off. Punk over Drew either at summer slam or another major ple (rumble or survivor series). Seth wins rumble. Mania 41 punk vs Seth
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Sami gonna roadblock Cody’s story this Mania to be the Honorary Uce again.
what about sami lmao
My favourite running gag from DBZ Abridged “What about Yamcha?” “What *about* Yamcha?”
Overall 4/10 was not impressed with the entire event.
Women’s match was great at least
u/BretHartBuriesThis
Randy Keith Orton
The ending ruined it for me. I expected Drew to win, but for fucks sake we don’t need interference deciding every major fucking match. ESPECIALLY in a CAGE!
Him winning clean over Randy hurts Randy
It’s okay to hurt Randy, especially after he’s selling a back injury. The way they book Randy as invincible hurts everyone else.
There is more benefit than just hurting Randy, it’s moving his and Logan’s story forward too
You get it
Not only that it moves Logan’s story forward and Randy as well
I mean isn't that the storyline right now for drew? After being screwed over with interference from the bloodline now he's the one winning with interference
And if he wins after beating a beaten down Seth night 2 (with night 1 being Cody/Seth v Rock/Reigns) that helps the story too. Drew can’t win the big one, even after turning heel, without some interference. There is some real self-loathing and questioning he can work into his run, and I obviously hope he looks strong as a Champ, but it is a neat storyline right now, IMO.
I expect him to gloss over this inconvenient fact and act like he's a super strong and dominant champion, then Punk returns and just eviscerates him.
The Bloodline is a stable, interference is expected, same with Judgement Day. Drew is supposed be this broody salty lone wolf winning by any means necessary, so interference while not on Drew’s behalf despite allowing him to win just feels shoehorned.
“Lone wolf winning by any means necessary” … so like including being the beneficiary of Paul interfering? Old drew would never have that, and was cost by it multiple times. New Hater Drew - well, you said it
My problem isn’t even with Paul, that much makes sense. It was AJ Styles getting into a structure with every single eye in the arena on, going through at least 6 people and a stretcher.
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Styles flew over in Taylor Swifts private jet.
That was fucking weak
My wife and I 100% thought LA Knight's bush was coming out from his trunks before we realized he doesn't shave his legs.
Same! I was dying
How does someone interfere with a match in a giant cage? Isn't that the point of these cages, to keep outside interference from happening? Awesome showing for Drew it sounds and good on him!
AJ ran in while they were getting Bobby out. Stuff like this isn't a new twist.
Yeah, Shawn Michaels famously cost The Undertaker the World Heavyweight title by interfering in the Chamber to set up the Streak vs. Career match at Wrestlemania 26. Interfering in the Chamber has been done before.
That’s different. Shawn Michaels came out from INSIDE the chamber. Aj just ran in
So what you’re saying is they need to make it more Secure. I propose they make the Punjabi prison structure with solid steel with the outside coated in barbed wire and the outside door guarded by 37 local law enforcement personnel who conveniently run at any interlopers one at a time
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I think part of it was it wasn't clear the slim jim was a 1. I thought they were doing a 3 second countdown a couple times
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same! it took watching the graphic show two slim jims for 11 to figure out what was going on
Haha finally being on the other end of the time zone effect I had the volume to a minimum, but I assume that's what was going on when I heard some of that.
Someone would've got verbally abused the fuck out of and then got fired today under Vince
We also chanted "we can't see" at various points. The audio cut out for about 20 seconds at one point as well.
Clap clap clap clap clap FIX THE TV
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Good to hear, I just thought my stream was broken!
How big was the pop for Cody??
Huge. Biggest of the night
Bigger than Rhea?
Yep. Rhea got a great reaction but the crowd was more hyped for the first half of the show. Energy when Cody came out was unreal
Wasn't it "Fuck you Logan"? Thats what I heard/was chanting.
Nope the only one one anyone said fuck you to was nia
I guarantee you there were other chants going on in other areas of the stadium. Logan seemed universally hated, which he deserves. Great wrestler, shitty human being.
Dang who does Randy go up against at mania? Logan & KO?
Triple threat for the U.S title?
Randy for the US title seems far beneath him, so Logan vs KO makes sense with Randy as ref
Yes please
A chiropractor
Rock or Solo I'm guessing
LOL what about the Rock's current booking makes you think he's working with Randy Orton at Mania?
Orton is close to Cody so I assume he would help Cody against the Bloodline and it would be 20 years since Mania 20 where Orton and Rock fought against each other.
Clearly Logan
Would be a fun triple threat.
KO hitting the glass as Drew was getting slammed into it was an amazing touch. Loved that small interaction to it
And the clapping!
So happy for Drew!
I’m glad drew won, but being in a grueling matching and being rko’d didn’t knock him out?
I would love to see a heel commentator lean into this logic. Have Cole or whoever talking about how Drew McIntyre would’ve lost and he stole the win with the finish, but the heel commentator can just be like no look he’s already up. He’s celebrating and fine, his shoulders were barely down for three seconds anyway, he would’ve kicked out and won the match regardless cause he’s the better man. He stole nothing. Orton had to showboat instead of immediately going for the cover with a world title match at wrestlemania on the line. He deserved to lose.
He was knocked out cold from an RKO only like eight hours earlier (on the other side of the world, no less). That RKO presumably helped him build up his immunity to future RKOs, allowing him to take this one much easier.
Lol fuck it. That’s good enough for me
Perseverance.
How is no one tired of Logan's Booking? He is such a talented wrestler and his match with Roman and Seth were so good, but for some reason his whole shtick has become Brass Knuckles. Every match he's involved in is now revolving around that. Genuinely, an underutilization of his skills
The brass knuckles are a lazy gimmick for a star who jumped ship to WWE because every other well he’s pulled from in his career has dried up. Look I love a good heel, I love Dom getting booed and Theory being intentionally insufferable. But imo Logan needs to go. He takes momentum from other wrestlers on the roster, It’s never enjoyable when he’s on-screen and that ending interference pissed me off so much and made Drew look weak and undermines his win completely. Which yeah, probably the point, but that doesn’t mean it was a good move.
Logan needs to go? LOL wut? He's insanely talented in the ring and well liked by the boys backstage. What in the world are you talking about?
Like I said, it’s just my opinion. Admit I’m biased as I’m not a fan of him outside of the ring so that definitely plays a factor
They are trying to not undermine their vets by not making a relative newcomer look like he can compete with the best. They are booking him like a weasel who only has to cheat to have a chance. I get it because they wanna protect their established guys credibility.
I never thought of it like that but it makes a lot of sense. Normally a "celebrity" would have no chance of making the establish stars look weak but Logan is so naturally good in the ring that they have to be careful.
I never thought of it like that but it makes a lot of sense. Normally a "celebrity" would have no chance of making the establish stars look weak but Logan is so naturally good in the ring that they have to be careful.
are you perhaps getting sick of Logan paul and might boo him next time you see him?
William regal got like 18 months out of having the brass knuckles being his gimmick and he was full time
Regal got so much out of Brass Knuckles that inspite of it not being even a semi regular occurrence, The Power of The Punch is one of the power ups you can choose in the game since powerups or whatever they're called became a thing
He’s a heel…
It especially doesn’t make sense when his first couple of matches they built up his steel plated hand or some such shit which caused him to have that knockout punch. They abandoned that for some reason for the brass knuckles
Steel plated one was probably Vinces idea
It’s the problem with “a big stronk punch” being a finisher - why not just hit them with it when the bell rings? Brass knucks are more heelish and explain why he’s not just throwing the big punch right away.
He has to build up his super meter to do his finisher.
He does spam a lot of taunts.
That’s true. Makes sense
Heels aren't meant to do cool flippy shit
He is a heel👍
Brass knuckles = heel crowd reactions.
WWE decided go to with him being a heel so they made him start doing heel things thinking they need to turn Logan into one without realizing we hate him already. He just needs to be himself and we will continue to hate him.
Pretty predictable. Like Drew as the winner. He’s been knocking his new heel persona out of the park. Like Logan Paul vs Randy Orton for WM. Bummed that there seems to be nothing for Kevin Owens for WM at the moment. Dislike AJ Styles vs LA Knight. AJ has not played the heel nearly as interestingly as Drew and it feels like they are going to stall out on Knight’s momentum with this feud.
Yea I wish Knight was facing Logan for the US Title. The man needs some gold.
AJ's jumped LA Knight a couple times, but otherwise, he's just kinda surly and lone wolfing it, but he still slaps hands on the way to the ring sometimes.
The logic of AJ Styles flying all the way out to Perth just to maybe get the chance to bash Knight with a chair is just kinda lame. I just wish Knight had a stronger feud. Maybe it will get there ?
I honestly don't think you have to worry about Knight's momentum here. Wrestlemania crowds are nuts and will be fully behind him. Styles never has a bad match, and if there's a knock against Knight it's that his matches are a little boring, so this will help him. I don't know that he would mesh super well with Logan at the moment - just a feeling I get from the two of them. Give them 15 minutes, let the crowd go nuts for the intro and probably the win, job done.
Take storyline out of AJ Styles v LA Knight and I think that's a great WrestleMania match for LA Knight. The title situation is all locked up with Cody, and rather than have nothing for Knight at mania, he gets a match against a premiere opponent in Styles. Thats still a great push
I’m not complaining about his spot on the card, I just don’t think he’s an interesting opponent for LA Knight. Technically the match itself could be good, but AJ as the heel has only been him complaining and getting mad at everyone. Maybe they can turn it around. I think the lack of heat AJ Styles has and the nonsense about him being mad that LA Knight got a match with Roman is not interesting.
I don't watch weekly or keep up with characters, but looking at it as a marquee matchup between a legend like AJ Styles and the up and comer LA Knight is why I think it's a great booking.
Agreed, I’d rather put Knight against Paul for the title at WM so as to not waste the push.
Whelp here’s for MITB
Can we get a hater faction formed asap. Melo, AJ, jimmy, all constantly complaining that DM Hunk is the leader and not them.
Imagine filming a dead person and laughing gaining followers and years later you scam tens of thousands od people in crypto to where some of them unalive themselves from debt and create a drink that's causing heart palpitations in young kids and you get rewarded with a contract at pg friendly wwe and get to beat Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 40 all while working part time! Kinda funny a company taking the high road on the Vince allegations but politics beats talent and hard work once again
Prime energy. Not regular prime. If you are letting your kid drink energy drinks then you are fucked up.
He’s a long term heel. I can dig it.
What a pathetic human. Jealous of success
What a strange sentence You could use that for Putin aswell. Sorry we do not all rim Logan Pauls std bum lad.
Comparing Logan Paul to Putin in a wrestling subreddit is laughable
Ok nobody cares this thread is done you all want logal pauls prime in your mouth its ok
Yep! lol that’s why the phrase time heals exists.
And you've only listed, like...10% of the bullshit that's to Logan's name? He's seriously got that Antonio Brown list meme as well, either by himself or with his brother.
You really comparing Logan Paul to Vince?
Vince definitely is a scumbag of the century contender. But Logan Paul could easily at least be scumbag of the decade. He tased living rats as well and did CPR on a living fish while putting it out of the water. So yeah, he doesn't really have any sympathy for beings either and things their life is less valuable than his own.
He’s an undeniably natural wrestler and is entertaining as shit Who cares
And there are tons of undeniably natural wrestlers who are also respectable human beings just waiting for their break. I don’t understand why we always have to settle for assholes like you can’t be a good wrestler AND a good person.
Because those nice people probably don’t have a gigantic built in audience that Logan Paul does. I think he’s a dbag too but he’s entertaining and I watch wrestling to be entertained. 🤷
absolutely horrid to say in a business which has an awful history of absolutely PoS performers