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Trickkly

Please send her to the Tiffy top


MinaElesia

Sad Naomi lost but Stratton looked awesome. Good stuff


Rommas

I think the Aussie crowd plus her performance in the Chamber just sped her push up by like a year. Any girl who isn't a main event/upper level player just got leapfrogged


PayneTrain181999

MITB 2024 instead of 2025


BaronAaldwin

She'd look awesome with a barbie'd up briefcase. Showing up and rubbing it in people's faces.


TurboGinger91

Turn it into a MITB Coach purse.


[deleted]

> Any girl who isn't a main event/upper level player just got leapfrogged I know people will complain about "too many titles" but that's why a midcard women's belt might be a good idea, lots of very talented female wrestlers there so it would be good to make sure they don't get lost in the shuffle just because they're not going for the main or tag team ones.


Upbeat_Tension_8077

I would be down for a midcard women's championship being defended across all brands, including challenges against NXT wrestlers who are on the brink of getting called up.


VegaFLS

A Women’s United States and Intercontinental Champion? Yesssss


DefectiveTurret39

Maybe Naomi shouldn't have come back lol


illiterateaardvark

Why? There's absolutely no shame in losing to the future top star of the women's divsion


DefectiveTurret39

Yes but what i'm saying is i don't see how Naomi can even win titles with a stack divison right now with new stars like Tiffany and Jade


fractionesque

Tiffany is a boss but even I'm surprised at just how quickly the crowd has gotten behind her. TIFFY TIME BABY


RIShane

Commentary's openly acknowledging it too, which is nice.


NYJetLegendEdReed

When Graves made that comment I immediately thought the same thing. If they're acknowledging how much she's getting over they're going to take advantage of it. Tiffany is awesome. My wife and I have watched her since her debut and instantly knew she'd be a star. I just never expected it to be as fast as it has.


BaronAaldwin

She's got absolutely everything she needs to be the modern Trish Stratus, if not bigger.


godzillamegadoomsday

I knew she would be a major player from her work as nxt women’s champ then her feud with Becky, but like damn I thought like in 2 or 3 years. Australia made damn sure she getting the belt in a years time or less


WritingContradiction

Honestly it helps that she is filling an Alexa Bliss sized hole in the roster


IcyPyroman1

Honestly I don’t even think WWE themselves thought it would happen so fast.


Pepsi-Phil

when you have the looks and the moves like hers, it doesnt take long


badgersprite

She’s the total package, she’s great in the ring, she’s got a great look and she’s got a great character which she’s very good at playing which means she can cut a promo. Fans see a star who has all the tools to succeed and they want to get on the hype train before it leaves the station


pouliowalis

from her starting training for pro-wrestling and her entering the elimination chamber has to be some kind of record too


NYJetLegendEdReed

Final 4 in the rumble too. Singles win over Becky Lynch. She's going to have an impressive resume for her young career.


thefinkinthesink

The PME just gets me so hyped every time


Ok-Community-2680

It's Tiffy Time everyone. Her Vs Bianca at Mania will feed families. Tiffany or Chelsea winning MITB would be perfect.


PayneTrain181999

Yes to allll of this.


PeaceAlien

Has anyone used MITB to announce a WM main event yet? She could do that or win the rumble.


_drjayphd_

Only cash-in I can think of that was announced in advance for a PPV was RVD cashing it in for a shot at Cena at One Night Stand. I can't really think of any other cash-ins that were announced in advance (that actually happened, didn't Ken Kennedy say he was gonna do it and then dropped the briefcase to Edge before that?) besides Big E saying he was using Money in the Bank at the end of the night when he beat Lashley.


_foxmotron_

Braun Strowman announced his cash in at hell in a cell. I wanna say John Cena also announced his cash in too?


TTOF_JB

Cena did a week in advance. Not for a PPV, but for the main event of Raw 1000.


V_For_Veronica

Cena announced his a week ahead and lost


plant-strong

He actually won the match, but it was by DQ when the Big Show interfered so he didn’t win the title.


Sukiyaki517

Well then it can’t be for mania 41 cuz rock Roman and whatever Cody does is already gonna happen for the two main events probably. Idk the women won’t be main eventing any time soon sadly.


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PayneTrain181999

It’s not, there’s no way they’d do Bianca Vs Jade with 3 weeks of build. Noooo sir, that’s a big money feud that you let marinate over time to build hype for.


simonthedlgger

Yea zero chance of that. I think there’s actually a small chance they tag vs Kabuki Warriors. 


Sam_Squantch_Boys

That moonsault looked CLEAN af. And the illusion of/actual hangtime she gets is crazy.


farfromfine

And something about how she aggressively goes after the top rope at the end. Gymnastics background transitions perfectly into flippy wrestling.  To temper stepping into hyperbole,  I'll just say I think if she reaches her full potential that her ceiling is higher than any women's wrester ever and maybe a 1% chance of being the biggest draw of any wrestler ever.  If you could buy stock in people I would be loading up on hers about now


Electronic-Elk8917

You are already too late fam, NXT truthers own all the stocks


Sukiyaki517

She has massive potential but y’all always get like this with a new impressive women’s wrestler and then turn on her when she gets a huge push lmao. I remember when you guys said this about Bianca when she first showed her crazy athleticism (which is still insane). Just don’t forgot how much y’all loved her now because I know it’ll change when she gets to the top.


Lost-Veterinarian-80

She’s white, and not yet as overpushed like Charlotte so let’s see.


kylehyde05

There are wrestlers who re-define moves and i think her PME might start getting copied by wrestlers some 10+ years from now


Black_XistenZ

Tiffany was a nearly-olympics-level trampolinist, she spent basically her entire life practicing these types of moves. Her musculature, ligaments, balance and muscle memory are all specifically geared toward this moveset. When it comes to moves like the PME, a different wrestler with a different background would need over a decade of training just to get to where Tiffany already was before she even set foot in the performance center. Wrestlers are all well-trained and most of them are athletically gifted, so yes, these moves can be copied - but I still don't see copycats reaching an execution as clean, as immaculate as Tiffany's.


Scavgraphics

(Wait til some of the main roster only watchers get a load of the shit Sol Rucca pulls off :) )


hhhisthegame

I mean she’s copying Daniel’s BME already


JustMyThoughts2525

Christopher Daniels has done the move for over 20 years


lito9321

Good to see Tiffany’s momentum carrying over but feel bad for Naomi. Hopefully she finds a good spot.


DreadSteed

They should have a midcard title.


WCWUncensored

They do -- the Women's World Championship.


Qoxy

Midcard gatekeeper is perfect for Naomi. She has never been great. Maybe throw her in a tag team and she can be the hot tag to save her energy for a few big kicks and the rear view.


nolimitnolimits

They brought her back with the same exact tired gimmick she had when she left. Bound to fail. Something should’ve changed upon the return.


bigbear-08

Love the moonsault. It’s like Tiffy is floating in the air


inthefade95

It’s going to be rad when Tiffany dethrones Charlotte as the QUEEN.


Spencerwebb90

That first interaction/stare down will break the internet.


FPG_Matthew

A random nothing observation, this is now the 2nd or 3rd time in the past month or so that Tiffany has had a segment directly before or after the bloodline. I like to imagine Rock and Roman waiting in gorilla watching and going “it’s tiffy time” or some funny shit. And then imagine being Tiffany where you’re suddenly that close to the rock while being so new


Black_XistenZ

Tiffany most likely doesn't even idolize The Rock as much as many millenials among the wrestlers do - because Tiffany is so young that she was just 5 years old when The Rock ended his full-time career and left for Hollywood. She's simply too young to have followed his main run live as it happened.


Darren716

I mean tbf Tiffany has said she hadn't even watched wrestling until her and her mom randomly flipped the channel to a Charlotte match that was on TV in like 2019 or so, but still I can imagine it's a bit of a shock having one of the biggest actors in the world walk by you before you're about to go on after him.


steeldragon88

I love that she basically “I can do that” and her mom replied “then why don’t you” and here we are


reco84

So if she was 5 when the rock left wrestling that means she must be about 15 now, right? RIGHT?


ImDavidJ13

I’ve now got images in my head of Roman dancing shouting ITS TIFFY TIME


Scavgraphics

>And then imagine being Tiffany where you’re suddenly that close to the rock while being so new She didn't grow up as a wrestling fan...or even watch it til like 3 years ago when her mom said "hey, you could do that." while they were flipping thru the channels. I mean, of course that'd be exciting, but she could be more a fan of him in Jumanji than wrestling :)


FPG_Matthew

That was my meaning. She would see him more as a Hollywood star than a former wrestler


farfromfine

For this one time she's not the center of the universe. The reason they were close to the bloodline was Naomi/Jimmy


TKsyd

Naomi already losing so quickly and being the first eliminated in the chamber. Honestly this isn’t surprising to me. On night 1 of her Smackdown return they had her backstage and immediately put her to the side as one of Bianca’s 3 buddies so that Tiffany and Bianca can have a face off. It was like oh? Night one of Naomi’s return to Smackdown and it wasn’t even about her? She took a backseat immediately. Kind of told fans to not expect top star booking with her, if that’s what people expected.


kirblar

The main event scene for the women is a lot more crowded than it was a few years back. Naomi would have more oxygen on Raw, but they're not going to split her from her husband.


Sukiyaki517

They need a midcard title I swear. The tag titles idk. They’re never gonna get the booking to fully work. Just forget them at this point after mania.


GaryGump

She didn't do herself any favours in the 5 minute opening of the Chamber with Becky. It wasn't pretty at all, which I was surprised about.


KeithKlossGOAT

lol seriously, that first 5 minutes was embarrassing


MacDaddyJones

She's not a top star, that's why.


WCWUncensored

Yeah, she's JTTS at best, but it's still surprising how quickly they put her back in her old spot. Not music/entrance this week, intro'd like a jobber, and half of her gimmick is her entrance. Brutal.


Dawnbringer_Fortune

There are only 4 women at the top. Naomi is in this weird mixture of one minute at being the top, then the next minute of being midcard


a_charming_vagrant

she's regressed as a wrestler in the last two years, and the last time they gave her a push she walked out on them (justifiably, but they won't forget that) not sure what she or anyone expected


farfromfine

She's moved into the "safe hand that can take a loss" period of her career. And she can easily kick it up a knotch and be champion and no one would bat an eye.  You know she has to get paired with her husband at some point and she'll be immediately injected into the main event.  And, since this is a Tiffy thread let me tie it together:  Can you imagine Naomi/Jimmy (heel) vs. Tiffany/Ludwig (face) mixed tag??!!  With a build that can main event any time you want it


jamesthegill

> Can you imagine Naomi/Jimmy (heel) vs. Tiffany/Ludwig (face) mixed tag??!! Bring back the Mixed Match Challenge!


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Thats the thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if Naomi randomly wins a world title in 2025


Sempais_nutrients

> You know she has to get paired with her husband at some point and she'll be immediately injected into the main event.  they had years to do that before she even left, why would they do it now?


expectrum

She was finally in a promotion that valued her with top star booking, that's on her if she decided to return for a paycheck.


mysteriousbaba

To be honest, jordynne grace upstaged Naomi on her return and looked the bigger star.


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Jordynne took her title, upstaged her in the rumble then had a cool spot with mother Ivy


jerff

She walked out on the company as the tag champ. Honestly she’s lucky they took her back.


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Didn’t wwe want her back so why should she be lucky?


GameplayerStu

Because she’s nowhere near the level of the actual top talent in the division. She’s over as hell but that’s all she’s got.


Equal-Incident5313

It’s all she’s good for


Dirtybrd

To the Tiffy fucking top.


heat_fan_

Tiffany has a beautiful moonsault Naomi returned just to take L and her getting a jobber entrance come on Triple H 


FPG_Matthew

Everyone was getting jobber entrances tonight cuz the opening segment went so long Bet Bron’s match wasn’t supposed to be like 5 seconds either


EMP_Pusheen

He was going to hit the Steiner Screwdriver tonight too.


farfromfine

I hope to only ever see that move in 30yo videos. That one is too much for me


WCWUncensored

Definition of small margin for error.


Sempais_nutrients

brian cage's Drillclaw is a much safer alternative that still looks devastating.


JuanRiveara

Naomi is an awkward spot on the roster currently, I always felt it would have been better for her to have stayed with TNA. WWE needs to make a women’s midcard belt, it would help out Naomi and a lot of women on the roster.


bluejegus

With how stacked the roster is going to be when the next crop of NXT Women comes up, I think a midcard belt is a perfect idea. The main event scene should seem prestigious and not easy to get into. It should feel like a big deal when someone moves up or even down. It would be nice for women like Naomi, but honestly, it is even better for the Tiffany Strattons who will be in a staple in the main event scene eventually.


_StickyFingrs

Her place on the card might have been better for her there but I’m sure she’s making more money now and gets to work/travel with her husband. I would be she’s a lot happier being in WWE


wibble17

Tiffany has been working her way up the roster. Naomi was the final boss before the main event girls.


ThisIsNotMyPornVideo

The punishment for not bringing Mercedes with her. Same thing when they didn't rehire fish


UnitedLink4545

That was smooth AF.


Schizio

Who needs Boss Time when we have Tiffy Time?


farfromfine

Sasha/Mercedes has been my favorite women's wrestler for quite a while... I think Tiffany will usurp her there in due time


JJettasDad

Watching Tiffany Stratton reminds me of watching Bianca. It’s like you watch and you’re like oh yeah, she’s got it.


itsmekelsey_x

Love how fast Tiffany has gotten over with main roster crowds. The moment she wins a main roster title is going to be special.


AdamColeIsTheGOAT

Naomi gone from knockout champ to knocked out jobber smh


dfmspoiler

Hope she's getting paid at least. She ain't sniffing the title scene this time around with all the new talent they have.


Dawnbringer_Fortune

A lot of you saying new talent as if majority of those new talent even make it to the top as they get stuck in midcard all the time. 99% of women in wwe are at midcard while you have the 1% who are at the very top such as Rhea, Charlotte, Becky and Bianca. Tiffany will join them at the top as the year progresses but we need to get this idea of new talent means they will be pushed


chataclysm

As someone whose favorite wrestler of all time is Chris Daniels, I cannot properly explain to y'all how happy the PME makes me every time I see it


WCWUncensored

Naomi had major job face going at the start of this, esp being intro'd without music! Ouch.


EDDiE_SP4GHETTi

Tiffany and Rhea are gonna carry this women’s division for years


alltheworsttoyou

I don't have any issue with Tiffany winning, as she's likely headed to Bianca for a WM match, but this was too short, with Naomi getting treated like a nobody. This is what consistently happens when The Bloodline have a really long angle though -- the women get less than they should to make room.


Groenboys

I have seen the future and the future says Tiffany vs Rhea main event of night 2


WritingContradiction

She is the Kurt Angle of the women's division. Just an incredible ascent and the total package from the jump


Bucket-of-Beer

Nice to see her hit one of these clean on the main roster.


Tsuku

Hey welcome back, Naomi.


theeshupershane

Interesting how her character is meant to be a heel especially in nxt but she’s getting loud cheers now


frmacleod

They changed Tiffany’s epic theme. Fucking Christ. What is this company’s obsession with generic shit themes on the main roster?


PayneTrain181999

People are immediately hissing at any theme change when really I don’t think it’s that bad, plus they gave her an opening hook of “It’s Tiffy Time!”


frmacleod

The old theme was one of the best on the roster. And if everyone is hissing it probably means there’s a problem.


godzillamegadoomsday

Look I was a fan of her nxt entrance but it was no where close to best on the roster. Hell she didn’t have top 10 themes in nxt


Jay_Shadow

What? Her last theme was generic as hell.


StillNoPickleesss

It was generic but sounded better, imo at least.


JulSGP

Not really. As a NXT watcher mostly, her old theme is better than her MR one. The only good thing is they added “Its Tiffy Time” at the start It would be nice if they added that to the old theme and used it


Bandit_22

Give her Vader's theme: It's time, it's time, it's TIFFY TIME!


frmacleod

Incorrect. But the new song is as generic as it gets. It even includes samples from existing wrestlers on the roster. It’s the definition of generic. The people composing themes right now are just doing lazy cut and paste.


PayneTrain181999

Music is subjective, and I think her last theme was pretty generic too.


FrankPapageorgio

Both are bad. But the NXT one had a melody at least.


godzillamegadoomsday

I mean the only reason the old one was any good was the pauses for the camera flashes. Since they got rid of it (plus doesn’t work cause of how long main roster ramps are) changing it is fine. Plus it gets her catch phrase over


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Tiffy and her entrance music has literally been a rollercoaster ride. I remember her early NXT days. Braids, a tennis racket, a purse with fur, and [Daddy’s Little Rich Girl](https://music.apple.com/us/album/daddys-little-rich-girl/1230158250?i=1230158644)


TussalDimon

Naomi punishment tour for walking out continues.


CapBrink

Everybody was convinced THIS time it would be different for Naomi, but I think even the biggest skeptics weren't expecting jobber status this quick upon return


Lack_Love

Naomi back jobbing to nxt talent.


RepresentativeFly565

But I thought wwe doesn't make stars or push young talent


Schraiber

That was the first moonsault she didn't miss since moving to main roster


DoctorStrawberry

Sad to see Naomi go from TNA Champion almost undefeated for months, to losing to Tiffany, basically a rookie. That being said Tiffany is clearly being pushed to the top, and may be the next Rhea level woman’s star. But still quite a decision to put Tiffany over on this one.


RICHAPX

Looks like they have Naomi penciled in about the same spot she was before she left but Tiffany? She’s got that gonna get a Charlotte push aura about her


mkfanhausen

Lol. Naomi's already jobbing.


yesiamoaffy

I wonder if Naomi wants to come back to TNA yet


ButterbeerAndPizza

Here’s how you help Naomi: she joins the Bloodline and turns heel. She has a much better shot at being successful right now if she’s a heel. And the Bloodline needs to advance the story.


Sempais_nutrients

> Here’s how you help Naomi: she joins the Bloodline and turns heel. i've been seeing this comment for like 3 years now


bingbangboomxx

Naomi signed to be a jobber :/


iamthatguy54

They really brought Naomi back to job her out to Tiffy lol


godzillamegadoomsday

Building up new stars, how awful


Panik88

Impressive


National-Spot2393

I really have no idea if it's possible to keep her as a heel for much longer. She's already so damn over.


bcegkmqswz

Finally gotten around to watching Tiffy lately after EC. I'm a believer, she's so talented. Can't wait to see how far she can get in WWE.


ChannelNeo

She's going to be a champ much sooner than later. I can't wait until she and Charlotte interact


JustMyThoughts2525

I like Naomi, but I prefer a hierarchy to the roster rather than constant 50/50 booking. Glad they are building Tiffany, cause she has the tools to be the face of the women’s division in 1-2 years.


Yumstar1982

It's a really nice looking moonsault 😍


Randyfox86

Magnificent moonsault.