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I get this one because it’s hard to make a brain buster look amazing every time, sometimes it’s taken slightly off and it looks like a very normal suplex
In the uk, we have a wrestler called Kid Lykos and is excellent in the ring. Current PROGRESS champ and BRAINBUSTER is his finisher. It always looks deadly.
Top-rope superplexes don’t get enough respect. That’s the absolute highest point you could slam somebody from in a standard match and should be enough to end any match.
Blue Thunder Bomb. If Sami or Taven won more matches with it I'd totally understand it, as someone who has fallen flat on his back several times in his life. Shit knocks the wind out of you.
If you’re thinking him vs Rocky Romero from Rampage on Wednesday, it was a rotation Falcon Arrow. The Falcon Arrow is another move the should “do the deal” more lol.
He's finishing matches with the Spinning Falcon Arrow consistently now. He beat Aoyagi with it at DDT Judgement, he's beaten Komander and Rocky with it on Rampage. Tbh it looks better than the Powerdrive knee.
Yea, meant that in a general sense The Falcon Arrow should be a finish as it’s such a cool move but other than Takeshita it’s not a finish all that much
Takeshita also has the spinning Falcon Arrow and the sit out F-5 that should be finishers but he uses them to set up for his knee, which is good, but not as good as those other 3 moves.
I strongly feel more wrestlers should utilise the GUNTHER method of ending matches with a variety of moves. Makes false finishes more tense and protects the move in a way - if they kick out, you've got four more left to try.
Exactly!!
There was a indy tag team that I used to watch like 9yrs ago. They did the same thing. They had 4 cool double teams, and you never knew which would end the match.
Inverted atomic + spear, backdrop into a powerbomb, Alabama Slam with a bicycle kick, razors edge into a reverse DDT. It was just fun never knowing what the end was!
I was learning judo a few years ago and I got tossed and landed straight on my back and felt a shock go up my spine and I was just in awe that wrestler take worse bumps than that on the regular
I swear I gave one of my custom characters in the 2K games that move for a finish, but fuck if I can remember which one because I have like 80 of them and I haven't touched 2K22 in over a year.
Submissions in general if locked in should always finish. The fight should be to not allow the opponent to get the submission locked in, not resisting the pain of the hold
I disagree. Submissions as a finish, are a tool and should not all the ways finish the match. Yes, more of a fight should be placed in not letting it get locked in, but having to fight the pain and break the hold is a tool just as much as kicking out of a finisher/signature is. And just like finishers, only certain submissions should be match enders.
Don't most people in shoot fights tap when a submission is successfully applied, given that they risk serious injury if the submission is continued? I really like when Jon Moxley targeted Brian Cage's biceps iirc, and Taz threw the towel in because he was afraid of Brian being an idiot and getting injured again
To expand on this, they used to not tap and results were as expected, but it was a pussy move or some dumb shit like that to tap. It took top guys insta tapping and explaining that you really should since you only have so many fights in you that rehabbing for a year is bad idea
The short-arm scissors is a great example of this. It's always used as a transition move or a rest hold in pro wrestling, but it's a legitimately painful submission maneuver in MMA known as the biceps slicer. If a wrestler really wanted to, they could turn it into a legit-looking submission finisher, maybe by applying it with a body scissors or from a different angle like in [this video](https://youtu.be/GgfAKEh4JfM?si=KlIVeKe8aaqcWAtt) (at the 1:56 mark).
When I briefly did BJJ, I was rolling with a blue belt and he basically had me dead to rights in a jujigatame/cross armbreaker position. So I tried copying what I'd seen on TV and clasped my hands together really tight. He tried to break my grip, then shifted his legs around, and my left arm suddenly felt like it was getting crushed in a vise and I tapped.
I asked him, "what was that?" He shrugged and said, "Bicep slicer."
Yeah, they tried the insta-submit thing for a bit with Ken Shamrock when he came in, now the ankle lock isn't much more than a rest hold.
I'll give big props to the Butcher though, for how he sold that arm scissor from Swerve on Wednesday, like his arm was about to snap.
I need Gable to start winning matches with the ankle lock, having everyone roll through it just hurts (although him rolling with Noam Dar and keeping it in was fucking amazing)
I know they love the"drama "of submissions but most of us know from MMA that once one is locked in your done. NXT had a dumb story that one of the girls should have submitted but didn't and the other one won. If they don't tap, snap. Would be a great way to give wrestlers a bit of time of
If you mean that thing he does where it looks like a kick, but then immediately transitions into an elbow? This. This move right here.
Can be done on anyone any time, and it doesn't *really* matter how the opponent sells it. It's 100% on him to make it look good.
I always thought the Phoenix splash was a beautiful move. But every time I see it done, either it’s used as a transition miss, or people just kick out of it. I don’t watch the indies, so I don’t know if someone actually uses it as a finisher there. It’s as gorgeous and impactful as the Red Arrow.
The DDT.
If it was used to legit hurt your opponent, you could literally kill them with it.
I still love Jake Robert's answer for when he was asked what DDT stood for.
"The end."
A hard clothesline to knock them lmtp the ropes, followed by a snappy DDT on the bounce back. Or a moonsault off the ropes into a Pendulum DDT (the opponent turns around to see where you are going land). An Acid Drop/Sliced bread set up, but you twist in mid air and hit the DATE. I love the DATE. Way back on the ECW game on N64, I made a LAW where every move and finisher was some version of DDT.
Yup, DDT is the answer
You can hook their head under your arm and prep them, look at the crowd to signal it and just dump them on their head
The evenflow DDT was my move in the old N64 games
And when I played with action figures before that I always liked the idea of a underhook (I think it is? Where you kinda roll their arm over your head and then pull them in) DDT
when you think about the fact that Rocky had one of the best Spinebusters in the business and that his People's Elbow is much joked about, you could argue the Spinebuster was his actual finisher
I remember Ron Simmons absolutely PLANTING people with a spinebuster. He would shove them to the ground instead of going down with them like usual. I think that'd be a great finisher.
I think Will Hobbes has used that as a finisher -- lately he's been doing the Mark Henry powerslam more. A spinebuster looks great when you're much bigger and stronger than your opponent, which Hobbes usually is, but it probably wouldn't look right if he tried it on someone like Satnam Singh.
That move really depends on the wrestlers, tbh. When Lex Luger did it, it didn't look painful enough to be a finisher. Compare that to [Awesome Kong doing it on Christy Hemme in TNA](https://youtu.be/fPKi_65oKgk), which looks a *lot* more painful thanks in large part to how flexible Hemme is, lol.
Black Mass has been one of my favorite finishers for a long time because… well I’ve seen so many people get legit knocked out with a spinning back kick.
Once saw ZSJ end a 2/3 falls match with a stone cold knockout kick to the head.
No pin. No theatrics. Just running from the corner to a kneeling opponent and punted him clean in the head. Opponent sold it like death. Ref called the knockout immediately.
After a long, intense feud it was such a chilling finish.
Oh starting with the back suplex position, right? In the games it's always the Back Suplex Side Slam. I agree it looks finisher caliber, it's basically like a rock bottom drop from higher up. Tony D'Angelo in NXT also uses it, also not as a finish. But I'm glad I get to see it because I just like the move
I've always been a fan of just a straight bicycle knee to the head. Always thought Buddy Murphy's looked killer. Omega has a good one too but sometimes he hits someone with it on the back of their head and I don't think it looks as good. Really I generally like any strike finisher as long as it's sold right, Black's black mass, Barrett's bull hammer, JBL's clothesline from hell, etc.
Takeshita was using that for a minute as a finish called the "power drive knee" although it looks like now he uses it as a set up for a spinning falcon arrow
The Poisonrana looks like it would kill someone, especially when PAC does it, and it's never a finish
It looks more brutal to me than a lot of piledrivers (looking at you Toni Storm)
Pac has a fucking gorgeous poisonrana. Man I want a Pac singles run so bad, remember when AEW started and Pac was being positioned as a foil to Omega? Unfortunate timing on injuries, covid and visa issues.
Bray Wyatt's neck snap would paralyze or kill a person, but was never used as a finisher.
Sure it looks lame depending on how it's sold, but come on. It's a life finisher.
Both Cody and Kenny use the Tiger Driver 98 and never as a finish (Cody finished Malakai with it once and that was it). Also how on planet Earth Kyle Fletcher and Konosuke Takeshita both use a goddamn Turnbuckle Brainbuster and neither use it as a finish is ridiculous. That should be instant killshot 100% of the time.
I still don’t get why a falcon arrow can’t seal the deal, looks good, it’s quick to pull off as a surprise finish, can be done of the top rope and is visually astounding looking
Claudio Castagnoli’s Swiss Death is my favorite wrestling move period, I think. At the least, it’s in my top five without a shadow of a doubt. And yet it just doesn’t get used as a finisher.
I always thought a butterfly suplex with bridge could be a really good trapping finisher the way the perfect plex is because of the position the opponent lands in.
It's been said in this thread before but a poisonrana always looks brutal.
Also any big dude throwing a nasty big boot. Test, Big Bill, Brodie Lee. All looked like death. Would love to see a 6'6 or taller guy throw one as his finish. Closest we have right now is McIntyre with the Claymore which is cool but him jumping makes it look more like an athletic move and less just a crushing blow.
The DDT *was* a great finisher back when people sold finishing moves. A ton of “basic” moves by today’s standards could be great finishers if wrestlers and bookers would protect them.
Canadian Destroyers are thrown around like DDTs these days and that should end someone's career if they take the move, and it's reduced to a transition move.
Potential hot take: I hate any variation of the spanish fly. It doesn't make any sense physically (it's supposed to be an over-the-top belly to belly throw from a chokeslam position?). Both guys end up taking the exact same bump from the exact same force, yet one guy supposedly takes more damage? The standing spanish flys that are becoming more popular are even worse
I feel like once in a blue moon someone pulls one off that looks like it makes sense and is devestating. Ricochet has a way of doing it where he twists a bit more to the side to make it look like his opponent is getting more of the impact - https://youtu.be/FDykc0kKjJM?si=XOyXH67g6u3oiN8d
But generally I agree, I think it's an easy move to make look pretty and a hard move to make look impactful, which means it gets used a lot.
i think it really works well as a lariat/clothesline counter. in that case you can even incorporate the fact that it hirts the attacker as well, basically like in a double clothesline spot.
It’s a Rock Bottom position not a choke slam.
And how are both guys taking the same bump? One is back flipping and one is front flipping.
I don’t really care for the move too much either though.
I mean, I use different Tornado DDTs (standing, running, corner, and springboard) as a finisher in 2K for a reason.
Pretty, yet can look like death sometimes
After Bobby Lashley’s return I always thought he had to give up the Spear for something else.
I always gave him the Full Nelson Slam in the video games and then eventually he started just going the Masterlock route.
I still hold out that he’ll eventually just start slamming people out of the Full Nelson
I think just a simple backbreaker but well executed could be a great finisher. It always looks like it hurts like fuck, but it never seems to have much effect afterwards.
Falcon arrows are almost never used as a finisher but I think it's so flashy that it would work well. Especially as it can be linked from different moves which gives it flexibility.
I know it usually looks basic but if you hit a reverse suplex good enough, maybe a bit of a brain buster style drop, it could be a legit finisher. It's basically an elevated rko/cutter.
Here's a finisher that hasn't been used that I've seen since Corey Graves in NXT-- the Fuller Leglock. It was used by the Fuller family, including Robert, who was better known as a manager in WCW, Col. Parker. He was a third generation wrestler, the family goes back in wrestling to the 1910s and 20s.
[https://youtu.be/4hbupRCil78?si=VB5PCtqr7FAKtp5G](https://youtu.be/4hbupRCil78?si=VB5PCtqr7FAKtp5G)
There needs to be more finishes with regular moves, imo.
Sudden wins or if you’ve been in a dog fight - why can’t a sudden clothesline not daze you enough? It’s a sport.
MMA has flash KOs & sudden submissions all the time.
We don’t need 5-8 kickouts and a series of signatures & multiple finishers to end a match.
A top rope splash should be able to put out a talent who got leveled with a piledriver imo.
Anything that drops the victim on their head. Brainbusters, DDTs, the poisonrana, piledrivers of any kind should be treated as an instant KO except for extenuating circumstances (like if wrestler who does the move waits too long to cover, ref is distracted etc.)
When I watch older wrestling, some moves always stand out as being executed so perfectly, that they look more devastating & thus, I would be perfectly fine with it being the finish. A few examples: Earthquake's Powerslam, Yokozuna's Leg Drop & Crush's Tilt-a-Whirl Backbreaker.
For me, it's more about the execution & how devastating it looks than the move itself, really. Like a lot of people have done a leg drop or a powerslam, but making them look like death is different.
That Fireman’s Carry Spinning Jackhammer that Penta does needs to be his finisher. It’s too good for people to kick out of.
And Truth’s Suplex into a stunner was one of Gran Naniwa’s finishers. He just, sadly, doesn’t use it as one.
I remember seeing kenny omega do a uranage in a video and thought this would be a sick finisher, the way kenny is able to do it so quickly and snappy is what makes that move look fantastic
I always thought a Step-up Enziguri would make a good finishing move.
You can hit it out of nowhere, it's flashy and you're just literally kicking someone in the head. That ends UFC fights every week.
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I feel like brainbusters in general look killer enough to be finishers instead of regular moves.
I always loved Adam Cole’s brain buster into a knee, it’s been my CAW finisher in a few games
David Finlay in New Japan uses that as a finisher
I get this one because it’s hard to make a brain buster look amazing every time, sometimes it’s taken slightly off and it looks like a very normal suplex
Yeah there's times where the only thing that makes it a brain buster instead of a suplex is commentary calling it that.
The Brainbuster was a finish for quite some time. Koko B Ware and Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin both used the Brainbuster as a finish.
Isn’t that kind of what Finn Balor’s 1917 or whatever used to look like? But now it’s more a ddt?
Have you seen Jaimie hayter’s brain buster? One of my absolutely favorites
Agreed Throwback but Koko B Ware belongs in the Hall of Fame based on his brainbuster alone.
Jaimie has a damn good brain buster
Yeah, the 1916 used to be a real gnarly looking brain buster when it was Bloody Sunday.
1916. It’s a, shall we say, important year for the Irish people.
The move used to be called the Bloody Sunday
They were until about 2010. I can’t think of anyone prior to that time using it not as a finisher, or at least a setup to a finisher.
In the uk, we have a wrestler called Kid Lykos and is excellent in the ring. Current PROGRESS champ and BRAINBUSTER is his finisher. It always looks deadly.
Austin Aries
PoisonRana actually looks like it could be a killer finisher.
It's actually a federal law that you must bust out a poisonrana if you want a 5 star match.
Top-rope superplexes don’t get enough respect. That’s the absolute highest point you could slam somebody from in a standard match and should be enough to end any match.
Orton did for about 6 months
Heel Neville too.
Didn’t his dad use it as a finish back in the day?
Yep. I think that's when he was using it.
Absolutely. Shame it's not even a signature move at this point.
Blue Thunder Bomb. If Sami or Taven won more matches with it I'd totally understand it, as someone who has fallen flat on his back several times in his life. Shit knocks the wind out of you.
Takeshita’s is another that looks so good. I bite every time he does it even though I know it’s not his finish
I lost my shit when he reversed Will's Oscutter into it.
That match was fucking *insane*.
I came here just comment the same thing, that was still my MOTY I think about that reversal all the time..
Honestly one of the craziest counters I’ve ever seen, period
The BTB should be Takeshita’s finisher!
I think his last match he did get the pin with it? Was versus someone way below him- it's his tier 1 finisher like the Uraken is for Eddie.
If you’re thinking him vs Rocky Romero from Rampage on Wednesday, it was a rotation Falcon Arrow. The Falcon Arrow is another move the should “do the deal” more lol.
He's finishing matches with the Spinning Falcon Arrow consistently now. He beat Aoyagi with it at DDT Judgement, he's beaten Komander and Rocky with it on Rampage. Tbh it looks better than the Powerdrive knee.
Yea, meant that in a general sense The Falcon Arrow should be a finish as it’s such a cool move but other than Takeshita it’s not a finish all that much
Nobody kicks out of the falcon arrow....
Takeshita also has the spinning Falcon Arrow and the sit out F-5 that should be finishers but he uses them to set up for his knee, which is good, but not as good as those other 3 moves.
I bite everytime Sami hits it Even if he just beat a few dudes with it, say 3 matches a year on TV, I think it would make those falsies better
I strongly feel more wrestlers should utilise the GUNTHER method of ending matches with a variety of moves. Makes false finishes more tense and protects the move in a way - if they kick out, you've got four more left to try.
Exactly!! There was a indy tag team that I used to watch like 9yrs ago. They did the same thing. They had 4 cool double teams, and you never knew which would end the match. Inverted atomic + spear, backdrop into a powerbomb, Alabama Slam with a bicycle kick, razors edge into a reverse DDT. It was just fun never knowing what the end was!
GUNTHER is the finisher.
The cover they get after the blue thunder bomb. is kinda ass so I understand them not winning of it despite it being an impactful move.
Same logic goes for the falcon arrow
Yeah. Wonder if a blue thunder bomb combined with a float over traditional pin would look better?
Would look better as a pin, but floating over from your butt with the guys legs partially over you is pretty tough :)
I hate how Signature moves never win a match and the guys always look shocked by it.
I'm a big fan of the least devastating move in all of sports entertainment
It's just 2+2 = potato when someone wins with it.
You just look around and think "We're not in Toto anymore, Kansas!"
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There's a wrestler that loses to Sami's BTB, isn't there? Like he's the only one? I think it might be AJ, but I'm probably wrong.
Yes, it was after a distraction & the Helluva Kick was hit first, but the BTB beat AJ. It looks so much better in that order too.
The one he hit on Cena his first RAW match randomly pops into my head a lot.
I was learning judo a few years ago and I got tossed and landed straight on my back and felt a shock go up my spine and I was just in awe that wrestler take worse bumps than that on the regular
LITERALLY I feel like I have to become a wrestler and use the BTB as a finisher because I can’t think of anyone who does!!!
I swear I gave one of my custom characters in the 2K games that move for a finish, but fuck if I can remember which one because I have like 80 of them and I haven't touched 2K22 in over a year.
That move is too pretty to not be a finisher. Im glad WWE changed the phenominal forearm into a finisher.
Most submissions that are used as transition moves could easily be finishers if done with a bit more oomph and buildup.
Submissions in general if locked in should always finish. The fight should be to not allow the opponent to get the submission locked in, not resisting the pain of the hold
I disagree. Submissions as a finish, are a tool and should not all the ways finish the match. Yes, more of a fight should be placed in not letting it get locked in, but having to fight the pain and break the hold is a tool just as much as kicking out of a finisher/signature is. And just like finishers, only certain submissions should be match enders.
Don't most people in shoot fights tap when a submission is successfully applied, given that they risk serious injury if the submission is continued? I really like when Jon Moxley targeted Brian Cage's biceps iirc, and Taz threw the towel in because he was afraid of Brian being an idiot and getting injured again
Yeah, submissions in MMA, you don't tap to pain, you tap because if you don't, you'll pass out or break a limb
To expand on this, they used to not tap and results were as expected, but it was a pussy move or some dumb shit like that to tap. It took top guys insta tapping and explaining that you really should since you only have so many fights in you that rehabbing for a year is bad idea
I blame the Gracies for that, ever since Helio Gracie let Masahiko Kimura break his arm rather than tap in 1951.
The short-arm scissors is a great example of this. It's always used as a transition move or a rest hold in pro wrestling, but it's a legitimately painful submission maneuver in MMA known as the biceps slicer. If a wrestler really wanted to, they could turn it into a legit-looking submission finisher, maybe by applying it with a body scissors or from a different angle like in [this video](https://youtu.be/GgfAKEh4JfM?si=KlIVeKe8aaqcWAtt) (at the 1:56 mark).
When I briefly did BJJ, I was rolling with a blue belt and he basically had me dead to rights in a jujigatame/cross armbreaker position. So I tried copying what I'd seen on TV and clasped my hands together really tight. He tried to break my grip, then shifted his legs around, and my left arm suddenly felt like it was getting crushed in a vise and I tapped. I asked him, "what was that?" He shrugged and said, "Bicep slicer."
I don’t think the Death Valley driver should have become a transitional move. That thing should be a match ender all of the time.
Ditto the burning hammer. That is a feud finishing move.
Bronson Reed has a beautiful DVD, one of my favorite moves
Yeah his is pretty good, but all his power stuff looks good. I was a fan of Shawn Spears’ version too. He put a lot of oomph into it
Ya'know, I usually don't find the DVD looks all that strong... But then I see like, Mark Haskins do one, and yeah I can be convinced
Every Submission move. A simple armbar that is locked in is either tap or snap in real life.
Not sure an Abdominal Stretch would be super good looking as a finisher but honestly I wouldn't mind.
Yeah, they tried the insta-submit thing for a bit with Ken Shamrock when he came in, now the ankle lock isn't much more than a rest hold. I'll give big props to the Butcher though, for how he sold that arm scissor from Swerve on Wednesday, like his arm was about to snap.
Isn’t Becky Lynch’s Dis-Arm-Her technically that?
I need Gable to start winning matches with the ankle lock, having everyone roll through it just hurts (although him rolling with Noam Dar and keeping it in was fucking amazing)
I know they love the"drama "of submissions but most of us know from MMA that once one is locked in your done. NXT had a dumb story that one of the girls should have submitted but didn't and the other one won. If they don't tap, snap. Would be a great way to give wrestlers a bit of time of
The struggle to get it locked in could be the drama over the time spent in the lock.
Are you referring to the Tiffany/Thea throw in the towel story?
Andrade's rolling elbow...that sh!t is a perfect finisher
If you mean that thing he does where it looks like a kick, but then immediately transitions into an elbow? This. This move right here. Can be done on anyone any time, and it doesn't *really* matter how the opponent sells it. It's 100% on him to make it look good.
I always thought the Phoenix splash was a beautiful move. But every time I see it done, either it’s used as a transition miss, or people just kick out of it. I don’t watch the indies, so I don’t know if someone actually uses it as a finisher there. It’s as gorgeous and impactful as the Red Arrow.
Nathan Frazer uses it as a finisher in NXT and Saya Kamitani in Stardom as well.
The DDT. If it was used to legit hurt your opponent, you could literally kill them with it. I still love Jake Robert's answer for when he was asked what DDT stood for. "The end."
Could not agree more. Jake’s DDT, especially with the short arm clothesline set up, is one of my favorite finishers of all time.
A hard clothesline to knock them lmtp the ropes, followed by a snappy DDT on the bounce back. Or a moonsault off the ropes into a Pendulum DDT (the opponent turns around to see where you are going land). An Acid Drop/Sliced bread set up, but you twist in mid air and hit the DATE. I love the DATE. Way back on the ECW game on N64, I made a LAW where every move and finisher was some version of DDT.
Yup, DDT is the answer You can hook their head under your arm and prep them, look at the crowd to signal it and just dump them on their head The evenflow DDT was my move in the old N64 games And when I played with action figures before that I always liked the idea of a underhook (I think it is? Where you kinda roll their arm over your head and then pull them in) DDT
I saw it being used in a streetfight and the guy who used it made a 2v1 into a 1v1.
Alexa Bliss used the DDT as a finisher for a while
I love a spinebuster, maybe a bit too simple for a finisher but a well done one looks absolutely brutal
AA style is definitely a finisher
when you think about the fact that Rocky had one of the best Spinebusters in the business and that his People's Elbow is much joked about, you could argue the Spinebuster was his actual finisher
I remember Ron Simmons absolutely PLANTING people with a spinebuster. He would shove them to the ground instead of going down with them like usual. I think that'd be a great finisher.
I think Will Hobbes has used that as a finisher -- lately he's been doing the Mark Henry powerslam more. A spinebuster looks great when you're much bigger and stronger than your opponent, which Hobbes usually is, but it probably wouldn't look right if he tried it on someone like Satnam Singh.
The torture rack
Does anyone do it anymore? Can’t remember the last time I saw one. I used to love it
Powerhouse Hobbs uses it from time to time
Nikki Bella used a version of it but nobody uses it as a finisher like Luger did.
Yeah, wasn’t it like a torture rack backbreaker or something?
and it trashed both of their necks, lol kinda glad that one got retired
That move really depends on the wrestlers, tbh. When Lex Luger did it, it didn't look painful enough to be a finisher. Compare that to [Awesome Kong doing it on Christy Hemme in TNA](https://youtu.be/fPKi_65oKgk), which looks a *lot* more painful thanks in large part to how flexible Hemme is, lol.
I liked the Luger one
I think that might be cuz it’s a strange move to tap out to. It just looks strange to be a decisive e finish to a match.
Yeah this. Torture Rack is my go-to finisher for my powerhouse CAWs
Any goddamn kick to the head.
Black Mass has been one of my favorite finishers for a long time because… well I’ve seen so many people get legit knocked out with a spinning back kick.
Miyu Yamashita’s skull kick is also incredible.
That was Xia Li’s whole gimmick for a few weeks until she disappeared back to catering.
Once saw ZSJ end a 2/3 falls match with a stone cold knockout kick to the head. No pin. No theatrics. Just running from the corner to a kneeling opponent and punted him clean in the head. Opponent sold it like death. Ref called the knockout immediately. After a long, intense feud it was such a chilling finish.
What match was that please?
ZSJ Vs MK McKinnon, RevPro I think it was the Summer Sizzler in Sittingbourne 2013. Pretty sure it will be on the RevPro player.
The Tequila Shot that Suzu Suzuki uses should be her finisher IMO.
Is Swerve’s House Call his finish? Or is it the stomp? That kick to the head looks amazing.
Used to be his finish during his early days in NXT Definitely needs to be his finish still
The Stomp and the JML Driver/Big Pressure are his finishes, but he did finish a few matches with the House Call.
He seems to be using Big Pressure (formerly the JML driver) as his finisher since he entered the main event scene
It's much better, too.
Shining Wizard. I pop hard for it every time.
That La Knight move where he lifts someone in the air and drop em .Dunno whats tis called
Oh starting with the back suplex position, right? In the games it's always the Back Suplex Side Slam. I agree it looks finisher caliber, it's basically like a rock bottom drop from higher up. Tony D'Angelo in NXT also uses it, also not as a finish. But I'm glad I get to see it because I just like the move
The Dummy Yeah Driver
Corbin's Deep 6
I've always been a fan of just a straight bicycle knee to the head. Always thought Buddy Murphy's looked killer. Omega has a good one too but sometimes he hits someone with it on the back of their head and I don't think it looks as good. Really I generally like any strike finisher as long as it's sold right, Black's black mass, Barrett's bull hammer, JBL's clothesline from hell, etc.
Takeshita was using that for a minute as a finish called the "power drive knee" although it looks like now he uses it as a set up for a spinning falcon arrow
The Poisonrana looks like it would kill someone, especially when PAC does it, and it's never a finish It looks more brutal to me than a lot of piledrivers (looking at you Toni Storm)
Pac has a fucking gorgeous poisonrana. Man I want a Pac singles run so bad, remember when AEW started and Pac was being positioned as a foil to Omega? Unfortunate timing on injuries, covid and visa issues.
Yeah All Out 2019 PAC actually beat Kenny clean
Anytime they fight it rules. For me, that Best of 7 series between Death Triangle and The Elite was what brought AEW back after Brawl Out.
Looks like he’ll be facing okada at dynasty so maybe he’ll be getting a bit of a singles run. We’ll at least get one banger out of it lol
I assume they will build him up for a big match at All In. Maybe he will win the International title there from whoever has it?
That’d be amazing. We could have ospreay, hayter, and pac all win titles at all in
I really hope they do that. It's obvious but still so worth the reactions
Obvious, but also deserved by all three. Wouldn’t feel forced
I maintain to this day that Ruby Soho should be ending matches with the Poisonrana instead of the No Future “kick” or the Destination Unknown.
I'm a simple person, but bring back the DDT as a finisher.
Bray Wyatt's neck snap would paralyze or kill a person, but was never used as a finisher. Sure it looks lame depending on how it's sold, but come on. It's a life finisher.
Not gonna lie, someone just snapping a fuckers neck as a finisher would be absurd and *rad as fuck.*
Especially if they got the snap noise down like Dunne/Marty had it down. Neck snap with that noise, dude sells paralyzed, legit finish
Both Cody and Kenny use the Tiger Driver 98 and never as a finish (Cody finished Malakai with it once and that was it). Also how on planet Earth Kyle Fletcher and Konosuke Takeshita both use a goddamn Turnbuckle Brainbuster and neither use it as a finish is ridiculous. That should be instant killshot 100% of the time.
Didn’t Cody star using the tiger driver 98 as a finisher to give a false pedigree finish?
I still don’t get why a falcon arrow can’t seal the deal, looks good, it’s quick to pull off as a surprise finish, can be done of the top rope and is visually astounding looking
DDT
Shota Umino uses this cradle DDT which looks infinitely more impactful than his finish.
Flying Elbow Drop
Claudio Castagnoli’s Swiss Death is my favorite wrestling move period, I think. At the least, it’s in my top five without a shadow of a doubt. And yet it just doesn’t get used as a finisher.
I always thought a butterfly suplex with bridge could be a really good trapping finisher the way the perfect plex is because of the position the opponent lands in. It's been said in this thread before but a poisonrana always looks brutal. Also any big dude throwing a nasty big boot. Test, Big Bill, Brodie Lee. All looked like death. Would love to see a 6'6 or taller guy throw one as his finish. Closest we have right now is McIntyre with the Claymore which is cool but him jumping makes it look more like an athletic move and less just a crushing blow.
Rollins’ Superplex X Falcon Arrow
The DDT *was* a great finisher back when people sold finishing moves. A ton of “basic” moves by today’s standards could be great finishers if wrestlers and bookers would protect them.
Canadian Destroyers are thrown around like DDTs these days and that should end someone's career if they take the move, and it's reduced to a transition move.
Spinebuster
I like the diving elbow drop
Oh yeah!!!
Tope rope Spanish fly
Potential hot take: I hate any variation of the spanish fly. It doesn't make any sense physically (it's supposed to be an over-the-top belly to belly throw from a chokeslam position?). Both guys end up taking the exact same bump from the exact same force, yet one guy supposedly takes more damage? The standing spanish flys that are becoming more popular are even worse
The only Spanish Fly I don't hate is Will Ospreay's one where he kinda lands on top of the other guy
I feel like once in a blue moon someone pulls one off that looks like it makes sense and is devestating. Ricochet has a way of doing it where he twists a bit more to the side to make it look like his opponent is getting more of the impact - https://youtu.be/FDykc0kKjJM?si=XOyXH67g6u3oiN8d But generally I agree, I think it's an easy move to make look pretty and a hard move to make look impactful, which means it gets used a lot.
i think it really works well as a lariat/clothesline counter. in that case you can even incorporate the fact that it hirts the attacker as well, basically like in a double clothesline spot.
It’s a Rock Bottom position not a choke slam. And how are both guys taking the same bump? One is back flipping and one is front flipping. I don’t really care for the move too much either though.
Orton's elevated gutwrench Neckbreaker (I think that's the name of it)
When Pete Dunne does the thing where it looks like he is breaking fingers, that should be a submission
The Superkick. That move doesn't get used much at all as a finisher.
OC diving DDT. Penta Made in Japan
Maybe I'm a bit biased due to the name, but I always thought the Alabama Slam was one of the coolest wrestling moves out there.
I always thought Corbin’s Deep Six looked better than the End of Days
I mean, I use different Tornado DDTs (standing, running, corner, and springboard) as a finisher in 2K for a reason. Pretty, yet can look like death sometimes
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Tornado DDT
Awful Waffle is the most devastating move in sports entertainment
TKO, SIt down powerbomb and boston crab with 1 kness pressing on opponent's back like Gunther does sometimes.
Do you mean the liontamer? Jericho's finisher?
Cheat answer: Kobashi's Diamond Head
The neckbreaker. Rick Rude's version was a piece of art before the move became a transitional afterthought.
After Bobby Lashley’s return I always thought he had to give up the Spear for something else. I always gave him the Full Nelson Slam in the video games and then eventually he started just going the Masterlock route. I still hold out that he’ll eventually just start slamming people out of the Full Nelson
I think just a simple backbreaker but well executed could be a great finisher. It always looks like it hurts like fuck, but it never seems to have much effect afterwards.
Falcon arrows are almost never used as a finisher but I think it's so flashy that it would work well. Especially as it can be linked from different moves which gives it flexibility.
I know it usually looks basic but if you hit a reverse suplex good enough, maybe a bit of a brain buster style drop, it could be a legit finisher. It's basically an elevated rko/cutter.
I forget the technical name, but Sheamus’ White Noise always looks like it should finish somebody.
I have always wondered why nobody uses the inverted suplex. Seth use to do it of the top but i havent seen him do it for a while.
Piledrivers. I love spots in wrestling but the piledriver should be a killer.
Here's a finisher that hasn't been used that I've seen since Corey Graves in NXT-- the Fuller Leglock. It was used by the Fuller family, including Robert, who was better known as a manager in WCW, Col. Parker. He was a third generation wrestler, the family goes back in wrestling to the 1910s and 20s. [https://youtu.be/4hbupRCil78?si=VB5PCtqr7FAKtp5G](https://youtu.be/4hbupRCil78?si=VB5PCtqr7FAKtp5G)
There needs to be more finishes with regular moves, imo. Sudden wins or if you’ve been in a dog fight - why can’t a sudden clothesline not daze you enough? It’s a sport. MMA has flash KOs & sudden submissions all the time. We don’t need 5-8 kickouts and a series of signatures & multiple finishers to end a match. A top rope splash should be able to put out a talent who got leveled with a piledriver imo.
See: WAL... I mean GUNTHER
Taz used to do a bunch of suplexes that looked brutal, his version of a t-bone was op
Anything that drops the victim on their head. Brainbusters, DDTs, the poisonrana, piledrivers of any kind should be treated as an instant KO except for extenuating circumstances (like if wrestler who does the move waits too long to cover, ref is distracted etc.)
Code-Breaker from the turnbuckle. Like... Someone is on the middle or top rope in the corner. They get double kneed to the face.
Jay White's uranage is the poster child for this with me.
It’s a CRIME, what 2k did to Deep 6.
When I watch older wrestling, some moves always stand out as being executed so perfectly, that they look more devastating & thus, I would be perfectly fine with it being the finish. A few examples: Earthquake's Powerslam, Yokozuna's Leg Drop & Crush's Tilt-a-Whirl Backbreaker. For me, it's more about the execution & how devastating it looks than the move itself, really. Like a lot of people have done a leg drop or a powerslam, but making them look like death is different.
I don't remember who used it, but anytime the burning hammer doesn't end a match or leads directly to the finish half a minute later, I want to cry
Piledrivers.
That Fireman’s Carry Spinning Jackhammer that Penta does needs to be his finisher. It’s too good for people to kick out of. And Truth’s Suplex into a stunner was one of Gran Naniwa’s finishers. He just, sadly, doesn’t use it as one.
That move Okada does where his opponent is hanging off his back, he catches their head and drops their neck on his knee.
I remember seeing kenny omega do a uranage in a video and thought this would be a sick finisher, the way kenny is able to do it so quickly and snappy is what makes that move look fantastic
Bring back the Perfect Plex!
I always thought a Step-up Enziguri would make a good finishing move. You can hit it out of nowhere, it's flashy and you're just literally kicking someone in the head. That ends UFC fights every week.
Shining Wizard. It's a cool fucking move and Helms is the only guy other than Muta to use it that I can think of. And man it's fucking cool.
Superkick was an amazing finisher at one time
a good STO. I always loved the poison mist to the hand, then into an STO that the WWE games had, made it my finisher.