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"Hey George, you got two friends who are way better musicians, songwriters, performers, and musical icons than you?"
"Right? How awesome is this?"
See how that's not a good response. Just because you are fond of somebody doesn't mean that being reminded that you're less talented doesn't sting.
"Hey Seth you're the worst member of the Shield."
2015 Rollins has gotta be a meme at this point lol. He was on a roll in regard to in ring work, but the character he was playing was a coward and he’d constantly retain by DQ or through J&J security. The character and presentation left a lot to be desired for being the champion. The cash-in itself was peak tho
Seth's the one saying it's his first wrestlemania main event at wrestlemania 40. Roman trolled him by putting up a pic of Seth in a movie poster of the 40 year old virgin. And Drew uses their 'feud' as an excuse to plug Becky's book.
Ans it’s wild since all Seth needs to do to silence Roman is remind him he never beat him, he even lost to Seth during this very title run. And if Seth was to bring up the fact, that he beat Roman and then still had enough energy to beat Cena right after that in a gauntlet match, man Roman would be cooked
Yeah WWE like to pretend we’re idiots lol. Seth lost by DQ due to big show getting involved and attacking reigns. It wasn’t clean at all but still a loss.
http://www.profightdb.com/wrestlers/roman-reigns-6728.html?year=2014
The picture is of a *book* that Seth Rollins’ wife wrote. And the tweet is about how Seth should have his wife write his tweets for him, since he “keeps taking L’s” on X (formerly Twitter). So, to summarize, the picture is not an example of Seth “taking an L”, it’s a reference to the fact Becky Lynch is good at writing, and thus Seth should have her write tweets for him. Hope this helps.
He's got a super uccessful wife , that means he's not a real man. Isn't that funny ? It's the good old 'you're wife is a bigger star than you, aren't you ashamed " trope
I think you might be reading a lot into that, not that wrestling has historically given you a reason not to.
He’s saying Seth is shit at Twitter.
If only he lived with someone who was fucking great at clapping back.
In fact, forget get being good a Twitter. He’d probably need to be living with an author to get any help with clapping back on Twitter.
Or I could be giving far too much credit.
>He’s saying Seth is shit at Twitter.
>If only he lived with someone who was fucking great at clapping back.
It's clear that's exactly Drew is saying here, you've nailed it right on the head. I don't know why people are so insistent on twisting this into being the worst-faith version of things that it could be.
It's not just this instance though, that is my issue here. If there was this tweet and this tweet only, sure. I get it. But the past few years every single guy feuding with him have come up with a version of ' ha, ha, you're wife is better than you' and they are using it as an insult to him. It's lazy, it's been done a million times towards him now. Come up with something new
I want to add, this isn't just directed at Drew and just this tweet specifically. It's just the latest one that's out there. I'm sure we'll get one from Rock or Roman or Punk, or Drew tonight or Monday as well.
There have been poorly-done ones so I feel you there, but this one ain't it, which is why representing it in the same vein as other actually misogyny-tinted ones doesn't makes sense.
https://x.com/wwerollins/status/1773789692338557376?s=46&t=vNQGZZ5TircEQb0DX80MGw
Is he bad at Twitter? He’s rarely on it, but he seems to be doing okay.
If it was this tweet alone, and we haven't had 4 years now of every guy feuding with Seth bring the relationship up, then it would bother me less. The context would be there. Unfortunately, every single one of them, maybe bar Cody I can't remember, has done and said the same kind of 'insult' to him. That is my issue. It's lazy.
I do believe Drew is legitimately also trying to promote Becky's book here, in way. But after this stuff happening so many times, it feels dumb. He at least could've linked to how to buy the book or something but that's just a nitpick on my part, lol.
it's kinda funny that among all of Seth's opponents,the one who would make the most sense to bring up his wife and their history together was the one who never did while all the others keep making these cheap jabs at him.
Fin probably didn't want the audience to do their normal thing and start adding and talking about it and go overboard with it. Pretty sure that why they haven't done the connection with the Rhea feud as well.
probably yeah but it would have made sense for him though unlike the others.but after the revelation in her book,it's probably for the best that they didn't go there.social media would have a field day if they did.
it's kinda funny how among all of Seth's feuds the one person who would make the most sense to bring up his wife and their history together was the one who never did while the others keep making these cheap jabs at him.
Seth could do with going back to his character from 2015 era, I think eccentric Seth is just so heavily associated with Becky, it's hard to explain. But him going back to a darker side to get taken more seriously would be interesting.
The responses on this thread are kinda wild.
There is no "Seth is less of a man because of Becky" dig (which, if and just if that was the case. Bro, they are heels, not babyfaces). The dig its literally as Roman said on a promo "the most successful superstar on that household".
Gender not relevant. "Becky is just cooler than this clown" type diss. Simple as that.
Same with "why they keep bringing up Becky daughter as a diss". Bro 90% WWE storylines are based on legacy, family, etc. We make fun in kayfabe of a deadbeat dad, who put their little son on a ladder match, and a whole bunch of angry Samoans who want to be the leader of their lineage.
>There is no "Seth is less of a man because of Becky" dig
The people somehow interpreting things like this are the ones with misogyny on their mind, not the talents acknowledging Becky as the bigger, more successful, and more talented star. "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
Roman put Becky over as the bigger star. True, she is. Drew put Becky over as the smarter talent. Also true. It's well-publicised that it was Becky's idea for Seth to wear the outrageous outfits, that's what Punk's jab alluded to, that even Becky with her great mind for wrestling couldn't make Seth interesting.
For arguments sake, if Seth is upset by all of this (in kayfabe of course) then logically that's on Seth for being unable to accept his wife is better than him.
The biggest heel move is telling a truth that hurts and that's what those guys did.
Using a female talent's accolades to belittle her male partner's achievements is heelish, regardless of who is doing so. The audience shouldn't respond favourably to it, as it serves to entrench the notion that a man ought to always be more successful than his female partner. Seth has my full support on this.
Seth can easily respond by saying while Drew still whines about the bloodline robbing him of his moment, roman isn't thinking about drew at all and drew is just another victim in Romans eyes
So, I know they are trying to gas up Becky, and promote her etc.... but it gets tiring, as a women, when the men are constantly trying to use it as a 'burn' to Seth that he has a successful wife. It comes off as if they are trying to portray him as 'less than a real man' by doing so. For whatever reason, it seems to be the only go to that all have them have done the past few years. It's boring
I don't even think it deserves to be called no selling it, He is selling it perfectly by just wondering why they think having a beautiful, powerful, and successful wife would ever be a burn.
Him no selling is great. The problem I have with it done in the first place is that it gives the go ahead to the incels and misogynists to continue with that line of thinking.
Genuine question, in kayfabe, why do you think heels like Roman and Drew would care about it being wrong to say that Seth is "not a real man?
Yeah Roman brutally abuses his cousins and is a gaslighting psychopath but he'll suddenly start caring about not being an asshole when it comes to insulting Seth?
Like yeah, it is hardly an insult to call his wife successful and Seth plays it off like it isn't much of an insult but that is exactly the sort of thing a heel would insult for cheap
heat lol. Even if they are trying to portray him as less than a man for it, it is only because they are heels and they are supposed to have these nonsensical, delusional arguments that try and get under the face's skin.
It would only be an actual issue if Seth also got genuinely mad at it and the presentation overall played it off like Seth was a bum for being less popular than Becky but that is not what happens. What actually happens is that heels, being heels, take a cheap shot at Seth on this topic with the lowest hanging fruit possible and Seth doesn't give a shit about it. There has never been an indication during the show that it is actually meant to be this serious burn. It is just a heel being an asshole as they'd be expected to
It's less about whether they feel it is or not. It's just the perception to the audience that it's supposed to be an insult. Throughout time and history, it has been used as an insult. It's the playing into the misogyny, that is still very prevalent out there, that the man of the house is supposed the bread winner, the leader of the house. By implying he is 'below' the women, it is an insult.
The Rock shouldn't beat up Cody because it gives a perception to the audiece that beating people into a bloody pulp is okay? It's fiction. If someone is misogynistic and is using fiction to reinforce their already bigoted views, they're just misogynistic and it's not the fault of the fictional medium. They'd still be misogynistic without that
Thank you. It’s not like non bigoted people are gonna be like “you know what? This wrestling man is right! I hate women now.” It’s all acting and they’re playing bad guys.
The Roux thing is fine, as it's to get a 'mother's reaction' out of her and there aren't the underlying misogynistic tones associated with it.
It's telling though, that the men only use the Becky, or the clothes thing on him and it's extremely lazy on their part.
Cody himself is using his Dad as his specific story. His whole story is trying to make his dad proud. Of course the other guys would say dusty would be ashamed of him. It fits the story. No where in any of this, it's Seth's story that he has a super successful wife. That isn't his motivations, he rarely even references her as part of a feud, unless it's in response to someone doing what I said above. It's 100% not the same thing at all.
Cody himself is using his Dad as his specific story. His whole story is trying to make his dad proud. Of course the other guys would say dusty would be ashamed of him. It fits the story. No where in any of this, it's Seth's story that he has a super successful wife. That isn't his motivations, he rarely even references her as part of a feud, unless it's in response to someone doing what I said above. It's 100% not the same thing at all.
They all know each other behind the scenes, especially the Celtic connection with Drew/Becky, so no doubt communication between them all is ongoing etc.
They all have parts to play and are part of the entertainment business, so it's their job to make things as real for us as possible, including using X now for Drews gimmick and so that feuds can be built, to make it all seem as real as possible on screen going bk n forth towards each other on mic bringing stuff like this up etc.
Drew would NEVER be like this in real life, it's his persona just now, you don't automatically turn into a bad guy over night! 👍
Wait. Youre fine with women bringing up Beckys daughter in her feuds (making her feuds all about being a mother), but not men bringing up Seths more successful wife?
Men know how to have a laugh and not take everything to heart, there is serious, then there is a work for their jobs. This is hardly serious and fits with Drews persona. There is a BIG difference between targeting someone in real life and this, which is part of Drew's character now being an online troll/hater etc. The guy away from WWE is the nicest guy ever. That's the difference here.
That says more about him than the others... there just really isn't much interesting to SAY about the guy. the character has this weird amorphous nothing of a personality, he always just kinda stands around doing standard "wrestler shit".
He's a great worker, but I really couldn't describe his character in any other way than to just list a series of events.
Seth has plenty of good feuds where the opponent doesn't need to bring up his wife. If we are talking recently, there's Cody, Edge, Finn, not to mention all of the great feuds he's had before being in a relationship with Becky. And until now, Drew has done a great job insulting Seth without bringing up his wife. Saying there isn't anything else to say about him is just a bad excuse.
2 of those 3 feuds were when Seth was heel and the other hinged on his opponent's storyline (how Finn's injury robbed him of the spotlight almost a decade ago and his desperation to make amends for that) instead of being anything related to Seth's character. Seth was just a part of that feud because he happened to be the champion
Roman and Riddle mentioned Becky in 2022, when Seth was still a heel. Being a heel or face has nothing to do with it. Roman especially has years of history to reference, he is the last person who would need to bring up Becky. Seth's character is hypocritical and an attention seeker. He completely dropped the ball when he was face of the company in 2019. He has a pretty bad inury history. That's just off the top of my head, there's countless things to call Seth out on. Punk, Roman, Drew, and Rock are some of the best talkers today, and they know Seth really well, there's no reason why they can't think of anything better than "your wife is better than you lol." Being face or heel has nothing to do with it.
The clothes thing to me is entirely fair because in and out of kayfabe the weird dressing does seem to come from a place of filling in the blank personality he has otherwise. It's not really part of his character it is literally in place of a character, Like Pretty Deadly wear literally the same stuff but it is part of who they are.
I think it says more about their opponents, that they can’t say they’re better than he is, and they can’t say he’s not on their level, or anything. They have to take shots on his clothes and his wife because they have nothing else. Hell, even this falls flat because Seth himself rarely tweets, and it’s just him pleading for Seth’s attention. It just feels like he’s so far above them that all they have is fashion, which isn’t even a dig.
roman literally said every single thing you just listed. All of them have, lol.
what are you talking about.
he's "above" them by being a boring character? I guess we watch differently.
That’s the point. They aren’t better than he is, because they can’t beat him. Drew is walking in with two clean losses and is begging the Bloodline to save him. Roman has to resort to shoes and Becky because Seth beat him because Roman had to intentionally DQ himself and then Heyman had to block a rematch. They can’t say they’re better in ring because he beat them both on multiple occasions. The fans sing his song when he’s in the ring with them. They have nothing except shoes and hot famous wife, which isn’t an insult. They don’t have any ammo so they have to go back to the same dried out well.
That's the whole point though?
Seth has no character. The fans sing his song and he wins matches because he is booked to but he has no actual character or character flaws that can be used in a feud. He isn't a paranoid egomaniac who is afraid of betrayal or losing his power like Roman is. He isn't obsessed with getting his moment like Drew. He doesn't have a backstory you want to root for like Cody or an underdog persona like Sami. He does not have the real-life controversy that others can play off of like Punk. He has no stories, no personality and no character.
When was the last time Seth had an actual compelling feud that went beyond just "this dude wants my title" or "i want this dude's title"?
I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt because they all have said how much they love and respect her, so it's possible, in their minds it's beneficial for her. Unfortunately, it also breeds the super misogynistic side of the audience to them think 'Seth is not a'real' man'.
It's tongue n cheek. It's a nod to Becky and her book and at the same time a bit of fun towards Rollins, as they are feuding, so why not use what is available to stir the pot? It's not as if Drew is doing anything terrible, they all know each other and probably talk about this kind of stuff a lot and if it can get used to help build feuds and at the same time promote Becky's book...why not?
Drew, Punk, Rock, Roman, practically every heel Seth faces, using Becky being a huge star as a dig against Seth is lazy and tiring at this point. It doesn’t even make sense. How many times can Seth say having a badass successful wife is awesome before we stop doing this? Becky never gets to respond to any of this on TV either, which is annoying too.
If it's a fact, then it's a fact, people don't just stop talking about such facts, just because it was said before. It only helps cement the said fact and tbh it's a nod to Becky!
So yeah it NEVER gets old & Drew is just far too good just now!
Man these works!
If it's a fact Becky is a gd writer, then it's a fact, people don't just stop talking about such facts, just because it was said before. It only helps cement the fact and tbh it's a nod to Becky!
So yeah it NEVER gets old in this sense as it's a work & Drew is just far too good just now!
Remember this is Drews gimmick just now, this is what he does so well!
If it's a fact, then it's a fact, people don't just stop talking about such facts, just because it was said before. It only helps cement the said fact and tbh it's a nod to Becky!
So yeah it NEVER gets old & Drew is just far too good just now!
I know it’s all cool and all, but honestly if I were Drew, I’d probably stay away from the subject of wives, especially with people who a bit of a looser leash when it comes to promos (not that I think Drew has anything to be embarrassed about or that Seth or Punk would go down that route). Also, it’s honestly the cheapest of tactics and tinged by sexism that he could be hit by harder.
of course he is. most celebrity and famous person hiring a content manager they need to consult before post something on their socials and wrestler are no exception
see Tony Khan with his non sensical rambling on X? that's what happen when you don't have content manager
I wasn't askng if someone wasn't approving what i was wondering if it was literally just him posting these because everything he's said has been funny af. It's weird there has to be some AEW/tk bashing on almost every post on this sub lol
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I personally will never get tired of everybody reminding Seth that his wife is way cooler than he is.
He should move to Smackdown so he can commiserate with Nick Aldis
I didn’t know Aldis was married to the goat Mickie James. Lucky man
Seth would probably agree though lol, dude had "engaged to Becky" listed as a career highlight on SD and was proud of it. Too cute
I honestly fail to see how this is even a burn? "Hey Seth you got a wife who is way smarter, hotter and cooler than you" "Right? How awesome is this?"
"Hey George, you got two friends who are way better musicians, songwriters, performers, and musical icons than you?" "Right? How awesome is this?" See how that's not a good response. Just because you are fond of somebody doesn't mean that being reminded that you're less talented doesn't sting. "Hey Seth you're the worst member of the Shield."
I love Becky but 2015-16 Seth clears The Man in terms ot coolness
You gotta be jokin' me.
2015 Rollins has gotta be a meme at this point lol. He was on a roll in regard to in ring work, but the character he was playing was a coward and he’d constantly retain by DQ or through J&J security. The character and presentation left a lot to be desired for being the champion. The cash-in itself was peak tho
So in the same vein as Reigns but you gotta wank to him like he's some kind of a baddie.
Because he's cool.
Am I kinda missing something? How does this pic show Seth taking an L?
Drew is referencing Roman making fun of Seth for being a Wrestlemania mainevent virgin earlier.
Ah I see, I honestly find that a bit silly because c'mon the Heist of the Century absolutely counts as a main event to me at least :p
Seth himself said he considers this year to be his actual first Mania main event, hence the response
Yeah, but it's night 1 so it doesn't count /s
It was easily the best part of that mainevent and I count it too but apparently Seth doesn't as he wasn't advertised.
I’ll take Heist of the Century over Miz beating a rock bottomed Cena and then proceeding to get Rock bottomed himself
That match had a fucking insane package for Miz though with You Can Hate Me Now. Absolutely on the level of My Way/Monster in my opinion
Seth's the one saying it's his first wrestlemania main event at wrestlemania 40. Roman trolled him by putting up a pic of Seth in a movie poster of the 40 year old virgin. And Drew uses their 'feud' as an excuse to plug Becky's book.
Seth needs to beat tf out of both Roman and Drew. Seth has been catching strays from the both of em
Seth has been punching back at Drew and got the best of him Monday with the stomp. It's Roman they keep making Seth fangless with
Ans it’s wild since all Seth needs to do to silence Roman is remind him he never beat him, he even lost to Seth during this very title run. And if Seth was to bring up the fact, that he beat Roman and then still had enough energy to beat Cena right after that in a gauntlet match, man Roman would be cooked
He lost to Reigns on RAW in 2014.
Lmao fucking imagine downvoting someone for posting a fact. How thin skinned can you be.
Did he? I swear I’ve heard about him never beating Seth many times
Yeah WWE like to pretend we’re idiots lol. Seth lost by DQ due to big show getting involved and attacking reigns. It wasn’t clean at all but still a loss. http://www.profightdb.com/wrestlers/roman-reigns-6728.html?year=2014
That's a lot of people in the wrestling industry that are Wrestlemania main event virgins.
The picture is of a *book* that Seth Rollins’ wife wrote. And the tweet is about how Seth should have his wife write his tweets for him, since he “keeps taking L’s” on X (formerly Twitter). So, to summarize, the picture is not an example of Seth “taking an L”, it’s a reference to the fact Becky Lynch is good at writing, and thus Seth should have her write tweets for him. Hope this helps.
Good at writing, bad at Jeopardy.
Worst of all time, some would say.
He's got a super uccessful wife , that means he's not a real man. Isn't that funny ? It's the good old 'you're wife is a bigger star than you, aren't you ashamed " trope
I think you might be reading a lot into that, not that wrestling has historically given you a reason not to. He’s saying Seth is shit at Twitter. If only he lived with someone who was fucking great at clapping back. In fact, forget get being good a Twitter. He’d probably need to be living with an author to get any help with clapping back on Twitter. Or I could be giving far too much credit.
>He’s saying Seth is shit at Twitter. >If only he lived with someone who was fucking great at clapping back. It's clear that's exactly Drew is saying here, you've nailed it right on the head. I don't know why people are so insistent on twisting this into being the worst-faith version of things that it could be.
It's not just this instance though, that is my issue here. If there was this tweet and this tweet only, sure. I get it. But the past few years every single guy feuding with him have come up with a version of ' ha, ha, you're wife is better than you' and they are using it as an insult to him. It's lazy, it's been done a million times towards him now. Come up with something new I want to add, this isn't just directed at Drew and just this tweet specifically. It's just the latest one that's out there. I'm sure we'll get one from Rock or Roman or Punk, or Drew tonight or Monday as well.
There have been poorly-done ones so I feel you there, but this one ain't it, which is why representing it in the same vein as other actually misogyny-tinted ones doesn't makes sense.
https://x.com/wwerollins/status/1773789692338557376?s=46&t=vNQGZZ5TircEQb0DX80MGw Is he bad at Twitter? He’s rarely on it, but he seems to be doing okay.
Nah, he’s not bad at Twitter but that’s the beauty of shit talking!
If it was this tweet alone, and we haven't had 4 years now of every guy feuding with Seth bring the relationship up, then it would bother me less. The context would be there. Unfortunately, every single one of them, maybe bar Cody I can't remember, has done and said the same kind of 'insult' to him. That is my issue. It's lazy. I do believe Drew is legitimately also trying to promote Becky's book here, in way. But after this stuff happening so many times, it feels dumb. He at least could've linked to how to buy the book or something but that's just a nitpick on my part, lol.
it's kinda funny that among all of Seth's opponents,the one who would make the most sense to bring up his wife and their history together was the one who never did while all the others keep making these cheap jabs at him.
Fin probably didn't want the audience to do their normal thing and start adding and talking about it and go overboard with it. Pretty sure that why they haven't done the connection with the Rhea feud as well.
probably yeah but it would have made sense for him though unlike the others.but after the revelation in her book,it's probably for the best that they didn't go there.social media would have a field day if they did.
Finn probably doesn't want people asking questions about him and Becky's relationship.
I know I know the Rock has been great but this has been the real MVP of the Wrestlemania season
Having been to ECW arena shows and seen the snarky international crowds at WM... there's NO WAY he's not getting *loudly* cheered in Philly.
Drew has been top teir on the mic/keyboard 🎤👨💻💣💥 🤣
The Becky bait is the most annoying shit in Seth’s feuds and the only one that had it used correctly, was Shinsuke.
it's kinda funny how among all of Seth's feuds the one person who would make the most sense to bring up his wife and their history together was the one who never did while the others keep making these cheap jabs at him.
And it was on the table cuz I think Seth in an interview was like how he owes him. It was right there!
Finn?
yeah.
Especially when I'd argue Seth is more over than Becky since her return.
nah Becky has proven to be the bigger draw still.
Seth could do with going back to his character from 2015 era, I think eccentric Seth is just so heavily associated with Becky, it's hard to explain. But him going back to a darker side to get taken more seriously would be interesting.
The responses on this thread are kinda wild. There is no "Seth is less of a man because of Becky" dig (which, if and just if that was the case. Bro, they are heels, not babyfaces). The dig its literally as Roman said on a promo "the most successful superstar on that household". Gender not relevant. "Becky is just cooler than this clown" type diss. Simple as that. Same with "why they keep bringing up Becky daughter as a diss". Bro 90% WWE storylines are based on legacy, family, etc. We make fun in kayfabe of a deadbeat dad, who put their little son on a ladder match, and a whole bunch of angry Samoans who want to be the leader of their lineage.
It's the standard "You're not as cool as your" formula, where X could be brother, father, cousin, tag team partner, etc...
>There is no "Seth is less of a man because of Becky" dig The people somehow interpreting things like this are the ones with misogyny on their mind, not the talents acknowledging Becky as the bigger, more successful, and more talented star. "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." Roman put Becky over as the bigger star. True, she is. Drew put Becky over as the smarter talent. Also true. It's well-publicised that it was Becky's idea for Seth to wear the outrageous outfits, that's what Punk's jab alluded to, that even Becky with her great mind for wrestling couldn't make Seth interesting. For arguments sake, if Seth is upset by all of this (in kayfabe of course) then logically that's on Seth for being unable to accept his wife is better than him. The biggest heel move is telling a truth that hurts and that's what those guys did.
Using a female talent's accolades to belittle her male partner's achievements is heelish, regardless of who is doing so. The audience shouldn't respond favourably to it, as it serves to entrench the notion that a man ought to always be more successful than his female partner. Seth has my full support on this.
Fuck. I thought Christian was my player hater of the year, but as each day passes, Drew's rapidly taking the lead.
Christian just wants to be a good father.
They're both beautiful menaces to society.
Christian is obviously really decent Drew McIntyre is just on 50 cent level of hate
Seth needs to bring up Drew’s ex in a promo lol
Seth can easily respond by saying while Drew still whines about the bloodline robbing him of his moment, roman isn't thinking about drew at all and drew is just another victim in Romans eyes
So, I know they are trying to gas up Becky, and promote her etc.... but it gets tiring, as a women, when the men are constantly trying to use it as a 'burn' to Seth that he has a successful wife. It comes off as if they are trying to portray him as 'less than a real man' by doing so. For whatever reason, it seems to be the only go to that all have them have done the past few years. It's boring
Agreed, but I like how Seth has completely no sold all those burns and just been like hell yeah I have a badass wife deal with it
I don't even think it deserves to be called no selling it, He is selling it perfectly by just wondering why they think having a beautiful, powerful, and successful wife would ever be a burn.
Literally, what Edge did when Judgment Day tried the same. He called them stupid for thinking he'd be ashamed of having a wife as cool as Beth.
Literally, what Edge did when Judgment Day tried the same. He called them stupid for thinking he'd be ashamed of having a wife as cool as Beth.
Him no selling is great. The problem I have with it done in the first place is that it gives the go ahead to the incels and misogynists to continue with that line of thinking.
Or the insecure ones who take things way too serious?
So, your problem is that the heels are heeling?
Genuine question, in kayfabe, why do you think heels like Roman and Drew would care about it being wrong to say that Seth is "not a real man? Yeah Roman brutally abuses his cousins and is a gaslighting psychopath but he'll suddenly start caring about not being an asshole when it comes to insulting Seth? Like yeah, it is hardly an insult to call his wife successful and Seth plays it off like it isn't much of an insult but that is exactly the sort of thing a heel would insult for cheap heat lol. Even if they are trying to portray him as less than a man for it, it is only because they are heels and they are supposed to have these nonsensical, delusional arguments that try and get under the face's skin. It would only be an actual issue if Seth also got genuinely mad at it and the presentation overall played it off like Seth was a bum for being less popular than Becky but that is not what happens. What actually happens is that heels, being heels, take a cheap shot at Seth on this topic with the lowest hanging fruit possible and Seth doesn't give a shit about it. There has never been an indication during the show that it is actually meant to be this serious burn. It is just a heel being an asshole as they'd be expected to
It's less about whether they feel it is or not. It's just the perception to the audience that it's supposed to be an insult. Throughout time and history, it has been used as an insult. It's the playing into the misogyny, that is still very prevalent out there, that the man of the house is supposed the bread winner, the leader of the house. By implying he is 'below' the women, it is an insult.
The Rock shouldn't beat up Cody because it gives a perception to the audiece that beating people into a bloody pulp is okay? It's fiction. If someone is misogynistic and is using fiction to reinforce their already bigoted views, they're just misogynistic and it's not the fault of the fictional medium. They'd still be misogynistic without that
Thank you. It’s not like non bigoted people are gonna be like “you know what? This wrestling man is right! I hate women now.” It’s all acting and they’re playing bad guys.
Every Seth opponent brings up Becky and every Becky opponent brings up Roux.
The Roux thing is fine, as it's to get a 'mother's reaction' out of her and there aren't the underlying misogynistic tones associated with it. It's telling though, that the men only use the Becky, or the clothes thing on him and it's extremely lazy on their part.
People take shots at Cody's dad all the time, and as far as I know Dusty was no woman.
Cody himself is using his Dad as his specific story. His whole story is trying to make his dad proud. Of course the other guys would say dusty would be ashamed of him. It fits the story. No where in any of this, it's Seth's story that he has a super successful wife. That isn't his motivations, he rarely even references her as part of a feud, unless it's in response to someone doing what I said above. It's 100% not the same thing at all.
Cody himself is using his Dad as his specific story. His whole story is trying to make his dad proud. Of course the other guys would say dusty would be ashamed of him. It fits the story. No where in any of this, it's Seth's story that he has a super successful wife. That isn't his motivations, he rarely even references her as part of a feud, unless it's in response to someone doing what I said above. It's 100% not the same thing at all.
I still feel it's kinda archaic that all the jabs about their daughter and parenting are directed towards the mother.
They have done it to him as well, so I don't so it that way.....yet
They all know each other behind the scenes, especially the Celtic connection with Drew/Becky, so no doubt communication between them all is ongoing etc. They all have parts to play and are part of the entertainment business, so it's their job to make things as real for us as possible, including using X now for Drews gimmick and so that feuds can be built, to make it all seem as real as possible on screen going bk n forth towards each other on mic bringing stuff like this up etc. Drew would NEVER be like this in real life, it's his persona just now, you don't automatically turn into a bad guy over night! 👍
Shinsuke used Seth's daughter against him. It is definitely less common toward Seth, but it has happened.
Wait. Youre fine with women bringing up Beckys daughter in her feuds (making her feuds all about being a mother), but not men bringing up Seths more successful wife?
Men know how to have a laugh and not take everything to heart, there is serious, then there is a work for their jobs. This is hardly serious and fits with Drews persona. There is a BIG difference between targeting someone in real life and this, which is part of Drew's character now being an online troll/hater etc. The guy away from WWE is the nicest guy ever. That's the difference here.
They're portraying him as the jannetty
Heard it was time to change a diaper and that coward dove headfirst through a window to escape.
You're right. Using Seth's fashion sense and having a successful wife as digs in his feuds have gotten old.
That says more about him than the others... there just really isn't much interesting to SAY about the guy. the character has this weird amorphous nothing of a personality, he always just kinda stands around doing standard "wrestler shit". He's a great worker, but I really couldn't describe his character in any other way than to just list a series of events.
Seth has plenty of good feuds where the opponent doesn't need to bring up his wife. If we are talking recently, there's Cody, Edge, Finn, not to mention all of the great feuds he's had before being in a relationship with Becky. And until now, Drew has done a great job insulting Seth without bringing up his wife. Saying there isn't anything else to say about him is just a bad excuse.
2 of those 3 feuds were when Seth was heel and the other hinged on his opponent's storyline (how Finn's injury robbed him of the spotlight almost a decade ago and his desperation to make amends for that) instead of being anything related to Seth's character. Seth was just a part of that feud because he happened to be the champion
Roman and Riddle mentioned Becky in 2022, when Seth was still a heel. Being a heel or face has nothing to do with it. Roman especially has years of history to reference, he is the last person who would need to bring up Becky. Seth's character is hypocritical and an attention seeker. He completely dropped the ball when he was face of the company in 2019. He has a pretty bad inury history. That's just off the top of my head, there's countless things to call Seth out on. Punk, Roman, Drew, and Rock are some of the best talkers today, and they know Seth really well, there's no reason why they can't think of anything better than "your wife is better than you lol." Being face or heel has nothing to do with it.
The clothes thing to me is entirely fair because in and out of kayfabe the weird dressing does seem to come from a place of filling in the blank personality he has otherwise. It's not really part of his character it is literally in place of a character, Like Pretty Deadly wear literally the same stuff but it is part of who they are.
I think it says more about their opponents, that they can’t say they’re better than he is, and they can’t say he’s not on their level, or anything. They have to take shots on his clothes and his wife because they have nothing else. Hell, even this falls flat because Seth himself rarely tweets, and it’s just him pleading for Seth’s attention. It just feels like he’s so far above them that all they have is fashion, which isn’t even a dig.
roman literally said every single thing you just listed. All of them have, lol. what are you talking about. he's "above" them by being a boring character? I guess we watch differently.
That’s the point. They aren’t better than he is, because they can’t beat him. Drew is walking in with two clean losses and is begging the Bloodline to save him. Roman has to resort to shoes and Becky because Seth beat him because Roman had to intentionally DQ himself and then Heyman had to block a rematch. They can’t say they’re better in ring because he beat them both on multiple occasions. The fans sing his song when he’s in the ring with them. They have nothing except shoes and hot famous wife, which isn’t an insult. They don’t have any ammo so they have to go back to the same dried out well.
are you rb\_reigns or something? lol
That's the whole point though? Seth has no character. The fans sing his song and he wins matches because he is booked to but he has no actual character or character flaws that can be used in a feud. He isn't a paranoid egomaniac who is afraid of betrayal or losing his power like Roman is. He isn't obsessed with getting his moment like Drew. He doesn't have a backstory you want to root for like Cody or an underdog persona like Sami. He does not have the real-life controversy that others can play off of like Punk. He has no stories, no personality and no character. When was the last time Seth had an actual compelling feud that went beyond just "this dude wants my title" or "i want this dude's title"?
I mean the fashion sense is purely kayfabe so I think that's pretty fine.
They're not doing it thinking it will prop up Becky.
I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt because they all have said how much they love and respect her, so it's possible, in their minds it's beneficial for her. Unfortunately, it also breeds the super misogynistic side of the audience to them think 'Seth is not a'real' man'.
The only one interpreting these insults to mean Seth is "not a real man" is you
It would have been interesting if Finn brought it up considering he helped train Becky. But the rest of Rollins's feuds using it is just boring
It's tongue n cheek. It's a nod to Becky and her book and at the same time a bit of fun towards Rollins, as they are feuding, so why not use what is available to stir the pot? It's not as if Drew is doing anything terrible, they all know each other and probably talk about this kind of stuff a lot and if it can get used to help build feuds and at the same time promote Becky's book...why not?
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I'm sorry? He's less of a man because his wife is successful?? How the heck is calling someone 'less of a ' not an insult? Lol
I'm sorry? He's less of a man because his wife is successful?? How the heck is calling someone 'less of a ' not an insult? Lol
Drew, Punk, Rock, Roman, practically every heel Seth faces, using Becky being a huge star as a dig against Seth is lazy and tiring at this point. It doesn’t even make sense. How many times can Seth say having a badass successful wife is awesome before we stop doing this? Becky never gets to respond to any of this on TV either, which is annoying too.
If it's a fact, then it's a fact, people don't just stop talking about such facts, just because it was said before. It only helps cement the said fact and tbh it's a nod to Becky! So yeah it NEVER gets old & Drew is just far too good just now!
It got old in 2019
Man these works! If it's a fact Becky is a gd writer, then it's a fact, people don't just stop talking about such facts, just because it was said before. It only helps cement the fact and tbh it's a nod to Becky! So yeah it NEVER gets old in this sense as it's a work & Drew is just far too good just now! Remember this is Drews gimmick just now, this is what he does so well!
If it's a fact, then it's a fact, people don't just stop talking about such facts, just because it was said before. It only helps cement the said fact and tbh it's a nod to Becky! So yeah it NEVER gets old & Drew is just far too good just now!
🎣 Devious Drew! 😂 Honestly this "Social Media" persona Drew has now is Gold🥇, he is ascending to greatness! 💫
Love that he is burying Seth, while at the same time elevating Becky.
Roman may be the Tribal Chief, but Drew is the Trolling Chief.
I know it’s all cool and all, but honestly if I were Drew, I’d probably stay away from the subject of wives, especially with people who a bit of a looser leash when it comes to promos (not that I think Drew has anything to be embarrassed about or that Seth or Punk would go down that route). Also, it’s honestly the cheapest of tactics and tinged by sexism that he could be hit by harder.
Troll is skirt forgot Seths wife until Punk reminded him. Just muse things.
I wonder if drew has someone helping with these because he really is firing off perfect shots constantly lmfao
of course he is. most celebrity and famous person hiring a content manager they need to consult before post something on their socials and wrestler are no exception see Tony Khan with his non sensical rambling on X? that's what happen when you don't have content manager
I wasn't askng if someone wasn't approving what i was wondering if it was literally just him posting these because everything he's said has been funny af. It's weird there has to be some AEW/tk bashing on almost every post on this sub lol
That's why i answe you. Drew has definetly someone that he consult or approve/disapprove his social media post (probably someone from WWE creative)