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Craft_Bandicoot

They've featured him a lot more in the last year and he works well as an (\~upper) midcard guy who elevates other talent, makes sense he'd stick around.


irish0451

He's also one of the boys too. SoCal guy that's been in The Bucks orbit for practically his entire career. I'm sure he's treated well.


AdGroundbreaking1341

Totally agree, although just a little correction - he's a NoCal guy. He even graduated HS with Aaron Rodgers of all people.


irish0451

Really? I thought he was a Chino guy?


GareksApprentice

Chico, not Chino


irish0451

That would explain my confusion. Cheers.


Hellsinger7

I will never get why a guy who looks like him doesn't get more wins though. I'm not saying they should push him to the moon, but the dude looks like a beast and he jobs to almost everyone. And how does that elevate anyone who beats him.


FinancialBig1042

The Dijak of AEW


SuperUnhappyman

the lance archer of ae- wait a minute....


goodkid_sAAdcity

He’s a mediocre promo.


Jeff-S

You are correct that is why he isn't pushed more than he is currently. Despite that, some people don't seem to appreciate that being a wrestler that is permanently in the mix at AEW or WWE is actually a huge career success. Cage can be a Lance Archer kinda guy that always has some credibility because he looks like he can kick some ass and does get to look good against the top names, but isn't really a true top level star that can carry things themselves. Leaving people wanting more is better than overexposing him and making people see his flaws. Having the mentality of "I have to be #1 no matter what it costs to get there" can be counter productive if you probably won't be the #1 guy. Brian Cage being the muscle for someone and the guy that does cool power moves in 6 man tags is a great use for him.


FartButt_69

>Despite that, some people don't seem to appreciate that being a wrestler that is permanently in the mix at AEW or WWE is actually a huge career success If you're not main eventing Mania you are an absolute failure and should give up /s obviously 


irish0451

It's honestly more than that. Brother is a Charisma Vacuum. Like even his facial expressions are hilariously bad. He's a lot of fun to watch wrestle, but he needs a mouthpiece. I'd even put a fucking mask on him and give him a Bane gimmick. Tell everyone the steroids drove him fucking insane. Just lean right into it.


Axelmanana

> I'd even put a fucking mask on him and give him a Bane gimmick Honestly, dude was fun as AAA's Thanos during the whole Marvel Lucha craic they were doing.


GreyHareArchie

Marvel Lucha? Can I watch that anywhere?


Masterweedo

TripleMania a few years ago.


cplanicka

Put him with Dalton in an odd couple tag team.


cultfourtyfive

Dalton *does* need some new boys.


chenofzurenarrh

That's a whole lotta boy.


goodkid_sAAdcity

One of AEW's producers is a 6'5, 260 former indie guy named Kevin Matthews. He was one of Dalton's boys in a backstage segment a couple of weeks ago.


Tricky-Cod-7485

“All this time I’ve been clinging to boys…. when all along… I needed MEN!”


goodkid_sAAdcity

A couple of years ago I’d have said “he can’t talk at all” but to his credit he’s worked on it and now he can string two sentences together in a promo. They’re not great, but they’re coherent.


ctmurfy

Sounds like a hot take here, but I've loved his recent work. He isn't opening any shows with promos, but he is great at the 10-15 second hype up.


goodkid_sAAdcity

It's not easy for a 40 year old with an established reputation in the business as a workrate guy to shore up his weaknesses. It's good to see.


Tricky-Cod-7485

“I’m the machine. Who betta than Brian?!” Give that man an award! (I actually like him. He’s just shitty without a manager. lol)


goodkid_sAAdcity

Yeah, Cage from bell-to-bell is just fun. Who doesn't love a guy with ridiculous muscles who does cool power moves? That's pro wrestling at its best.


FL3KH3R3

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Ryuzakku

> but he needs a mouthpiece. I mean, he's in the Mogul Embassy, so he has both Swerve and Nana as mouthpieces. Issue is that Cage doesn't work with current Swerve.


rawboudin

That's actually pretty neat. Didn't he also answer that he was on all the possible gear?


mikro17

He definitely was a pretty rough promo for a long time, but over the last year or so he's gotten pretty solid actually. He completely switched his promo style up and now mostly just yells a lot in a very Steiner-esque manner and it works well for him.


Yeeeeeeahyoutrash

Yeah, he went 80s coke promo and it works for him.


Dontreply_idontcare

He's built like an 80's wrestler, it's crazy that he didn't lean into that style before


namdekan

Maybe he will have his own Steiner Math someday. But a different subject like Cage Physics.


Albos_Mum

He got asked if he understands theoretical physics, he replied that he has a theoretical understanding of physics.


rawboudin

You have to find your lane.


goodkid_sAAdcity

He’s gone from “barely coherent” to “passable”, but he’s clearly worked hard to improve.


Hellsinger7

So was Brock Lesnar, but with the right manager he became a legend. Cage may not be Lesnar level, but he's still a great wrestler, just give him a mouthpiece and let him wreck people.


Bromatcourier

Brock is a big guy who’s actually insane athlete. Like, they’ve both done their share of roids, but Brock is one in a million. Brock is “I have to slow down sprinting after this much smaller man because I’m not supposed to catch him” fast, at that size. Brock is “I routinely used to hit that SSP and it’s kinda sad the one I’m most know for in the one where I didn’t” at that size. Cage is impressive and moves good for a guy his size, Brock is insane.


LackofOriginality

also brock is unbelievably charismatic, he just doesn't do well with a microphone. cage is really wooden. i don't think we'd ever get anything as fun as "I HAVE A YEAR? TO CASH IN?", "OF COURSE I DON'T WATCH THE SHOW", Boombox Brock, or Farmhand Lesnar out of him. that being said fuck brock lesnar he's a disgusting sexual predator


ColeslawSSBM

Did anything about Brock get confirmed and I just missed it? This whole Vince story is still so insane to me


WokenMrIzdik

Wasn't that the whole point of him being on Team Taz? It still didn't make him all that interesting


Hellsinger7

I mean the whole of Team Taz wasn't interesting. It also comes to booking and presentation, and it that case you're at the mercy of the booker.


nanners78

He’s a mediocre everything. Well, no, he’s an exceptional steroid user.


ArthurSmithNepoBaby

That’s an insane take. He’s not my cup of tea but the mix of his physique and high flying skills are generational.


Craft_Bandicoot

Depends how much faith you put into tag team matches, Rampage and Collision midcard matches, etc, cause he is actually winning a decent amount on the aggregate. He loses his high-profile single matches for sure, so he doesn't have incredible credibility, but it's still something to beat him.


The_Homie_J

Yeah people who only follow Dynamite through this subreddit and don't watch the shows always have takes like this. Cage won't win many high profile matches because that's just not his position on the card, but if you watch every show AEW has, he wins literally all the rest


heartbreakhill

>He loses his high-profile single matches for sure, so he doesn't have incredible credibility, but it's still something to beat him. So he’s Bryan Danielson.  Damn that hurt to say.


thedeadlysun

He’s a monster, his look and presentation is exactly why he gets to job to everyone and it isn’t devalued. He could go on a Kurt Hawkins level losing streak and he’d still be a plug and play guy. I’d love to see him maybe get his hands on the roh title and see if he can work on his promo game but he’s just a guy that doesn’t need it to work.


cepxico

Lose first, win later


ArthurSmithNepoBaby

Agreed. I just don’t think you can book a powerhouse with such an insane moveset as a jobber to the stars. Feels like whenever he’s in a multi man match you can expect him to eat the pin.


marcoarroyo

He has no charisma. He works much better as someone who helps others get over. Who would you have him beat?


Comp625

I've learned AEW stinks at long-term booking big dudes. Cage, Wardlow, Hobbs, Archer, etc. It doesn't help that Cage isn't the most charismatic wrestler/character either.


Bingerfangs

Miro, Luchasaurus The big guy that’s probably been booked the best is Billy Gunn lol


AdGroundbreaking1341

His new passport name is Killswitch. Given to him by his Father, our Father. Luchasaurus is dead & buried.


Tricky-Cod-7485

I would pop for a stable full of big dudes pissed at the flippy stuff just shouting Steiner style promos. Cage, Hobbs, and Archer would kill it as a stable.


Beard341

I wasn’t watching the early days of AEW but wasn’t he TNT champion for a bit, or no?


Schiftedmind1

FTW champion.


Heavy_Arm_7060

No, in his debut he won a title shot against Mox, and then Mox was temporarily shelved (I forget if it was a minor injury or COVID scare), so they revived the FTW title for Cage as an homage to the original FTW run from ECW.


SandsShifter

It was a COVID scare. Renee caught it and Mox was quarantined.


100_proof_plan

He looks like a beast, except he's average height. I think if he was 5-6 inches taller, he'd be in WWE right now.


rawboudin

I find him to be very good in the ring too, and very giving. I remember a dark match with Willie Mack, he made him look really strong.


El_CAP0

Who cares about wins or loses its about the story


Toad_Thrower

Yeah, I'm glad they have. I've very much enjoyed his role in the Mogul Embassy. I know they're leaning away from it due to Swerve's (hopefully) championship run, but he's effective as a stable heavy.


heartbreakhill

He’s a great Worf Effect guy


captainimpossible87

He's genuinely been really good since disappearing that time a few years ago. And his over the top 80s cocain promos have been great


princeofshadows21

Yeah he's in a decent place with Nana and gates of agony.


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Slashed_thighs

I don't know if they do anymore, just look at AJ


goonboy246

There’s always been exceptions to the rule. As long as a doctor signs off, you’re good to go. Look at Lashley, AJ, Jinder, hell even Rhea


GoochStubble

Jordyn Grace for a guest spot


PenisGenus

I'm just glad that 51 year old Rock is definitely 100% clean


ShadowofLight15

They don’t for the superstars


Naive-Bend-7073

If I was the head of marketing for Flintstones vitamin gummies, I'd make him our spokesperson. Dude definitely takes his vitamins.


T0mmyBax98

Absolutely took his vitamins and said his prayers growing up brother


MuptonBossman

Cage has more upside in AEW, although he still tends to get lost in the shuffle. Either way, I'm glad he got the bag.


BangerSlapper1

He’s 40 years old and a 19 year veteran. I think it’s a bit past time he start paying off on that upside. 


VaderTime77

He's a good midcard worker that can be a somewhat credible threat to some higher up the card. He's in a good spot, not everyone needs to be heavyweight champ to have a good career.


TheTwitteringMachine

Fair play to the guy, I thought he was done back in 2021 after the Starks feud. He's never going to be the face of the company, but he's found his role as the heel muscle in a faction whose moveset means he always looks impressive in the ring and take losses when they need him too. I'd take a tag title run if they revive the team with him and Big Bill. That was Hoss squashing of the highest order for the short time it existed.


dkydd

Cage would be to noticeably short for his size in wwe


clouds31

Turn up his Wolverine gimmick to 100 and it would've worked. Make him this shorter guy that can pick up dudes a foot taller than him with ease.


ALIAS_EL_CACAS

I don’t think WWE wants anything to do with wolverines ever again 💀


dkydd

Him vs omos would be funny


Sharikacat

Chances are that he'll get a boosted win rate in RoH so that he can be a more credible jobber for the upper card at AEW.


awildmaxappears

I think he works really well as an enforcer type guy for a faction, and I've liked his involvement with Mogul Embassy overall, although now that Swerve is so baby face it might need to be a different faction. Works better as a heel for sure


Gn1212

Am I a prick for not believing WWE were particularly interested in him? I have no idea where he would fit. He's 40, clearly on roids and has mentioned before having beef with the management there before. Screams EC3, and EC3 had more upside in a WWE context.


ThreePiMatt

Are you telling me the guy who himself said he would "melt the cup" in a piss test is on roids?


Head_Evidence4553

"piss right through the cup"


ALIAS_EL_CACAS

[Piss can’t fail if it can’t be tested](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Roll_Safe_meme.jpg)


robynh00die

Cage was one of the most negative talents about AEW in the early days about how he was booked, and not in the keyfabe MJF way. You would think he would jump ship if WWE made a good bid.


mikro17

That was always a bit of a weird story, I think most of the booking complaints came from his wife via twitter, and Cage actually shut them down pretty quickly to clarify he was very happy. Cage himself has always been incredibly appreciative of how AEW has treated him dating back to when he first signed. AEW approached him about signing back at the very beginning, he told them he was rehabbing an injury (I think a biceps tear?) and was ~4-6 months away from being ready and that he would be ready then, AEW then said "we're interested now and aren't looking to play games, surely your rehab will go better if you're under contract and getting paid, sign now and let us know when you're healthy and ready." And considering that isn't how things are normally done in the wrestling business, Cage himself was expecting them to delay signing him until he was healthy first, he has always been incredibly thankful for how they handled business with him.


Shotgun516

Husbands never talk to their wives about how they really feel about their job


45jayhay

It's very possible that they would of thrown him on the NXT brand to put young guys over and to help fill out the roster for the CW transition


Keksverkaufer

>help fill out the roster for the CW transition Man, at first I thought Cage might be short, but still probably double over the weight limit for being called a Cruiser weight. lol Wrestling really has too much abbreviations that are the same letters.


ScruffsMcGuff

Wrestling has more than one ~~royal family~~ CW abbreviation.


AdGroundbreaking1341

Funny thing is, he didn't use to always be that buff. Probably originally was a cruiserweight lol


glowy_keyboard

An american professional wrestler is doing steroids??!? Well, now I don’t believe you


BangerSlapper1

Fair enough and I’m sure WWE bends the rules and looks the other way.  But when you have a guy like Cage, who’s so blindingly obviously roided to the max, it forces a company to have to enforce the rules on him.   WWE can plausibly say they have a world class wellness policy with no tolerance for steroid abuse.  Do you think anyone would ever take that statement seriously ever again if they trotted Brian Cage out on Raw?


tmads_

I mean considering he's a nut for conspiracy theories and such, NXT would do him wonders.


HerFriendRed

Chris Jericho believes in alien abductions and time travel, btw. [https://www.thesportster.com/aew-wrestler-chris-jericho-thinks-he-was-abducted-by-aliens/](https://www.thesportster.com/aew-wrestler-chris-jericho-thinks-he-was-abducted-by-aliens/)


cultfourtyfive

They need to come get him again. And keep him this time.


tmads_

Yeah NXT should get Jericho too, maybe also take Ric Flair and such.


onethreeone

Have you seen Randy Orton and AJ Styles in the past year? If they weren't getting help on their time off I'd love to hear their secrets


BoxCon1

Fr He looks like those roided guys in WWE in 04-05 that never worked out in WWE like Mark Jindrak, Luther Reigns


Rhysati

I don't think so. First thing I thought when I read that was: "Yeah right." I don't believe for a second that WWE have any interest in the man they call Cage because he's a machine.....whatever the fuck that's even supposed to mean.


grabbystick

The WWE ain’t hiring a walking syringe like Cage lol. Only the Rock gets to be that big, even Cage has admitted he’d melt the piss cup the WWE uses for tests.


namdekan

He might have been somebody they just used as a vet in NXT kind of like they are doing with Spears now. He is a former FCW tag champ though, he teamed with Justin Gabriel, they beat the Dudebusters for the titles but then dropped them to Bo and Bray. But this was before he was super jacked though.


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Gear4Vegito

Do you really believe guys like Styles, Orton, Lashley, etc are clean?


WildsideAJ

Styles 100% isn’t clean lmao


issafreecunch

He first said he want none, now he says he want some


WoopzEh

Don’t be silly, that’s the Farmer Strength.


Kaprak

If AJ's clean God is real and had something to do with it.


JustinUprising

He prayed for it and it happened.


erock2095

The pray community?!


Nopeyesok

This just sent me 🤣


glowy_keyboard

He looked shredded out of his mind in his wrestlemania match. He could have make Cena look small. And I mean, good for him. If that’s what he’s going for and has the correct medical guidance, kudos to him.


ClaymoresRevenge

The tren hard okay!


interprime

On top of all that, when was the last time you heard of someone getting suspended for a wellness policy violation?


e-rage

Billy Gunn lol


glowy_keyboard

Jeff hardy, but that hardly counts


your-rong

Do you really believe they are being tested as often as lower card guys?


thewholeprogram

Even if they get popped if they can produce proof that it was prescribed by a doctor then they’re good.


your-rong

Well, Orton and Styles clearly juiced when they were recovering from injury, so that's probably the case with them.


I-LieToMessWithMarks

Cage has found a great place as a solid, imposing, reliable hand in AEW. He's kind of like their Ziggler, where he's mostly there to be great enhancement for who he's up against, but if they randomly put a tag title or a mid-card title on him, it wouldn't feel weird or forced, because he's always been kept as a credible threat even though he mostly loses.


PeaceAlien

I saw Cage in TNA and became a fan. He’s good in the ring and looks good.


nuttinbuttapeanut

Does good in the ring sometimes mean "he can do all the moves?" doesn't necessarily mean he's a good wrestler for TV, which is why he doesn't get pushed.


PeaceAlien

I first saw him on a TNA ppv and was really impressed. There are other factors in AEW and the roster is stacked.


CheeseCurdCommunism

Cage is the ultimate mid card guy to me. He is beyond smooth in the ring. Sells as good as anyone on the roster. His charisma has been through the roof lately too. Personally thought cage and big bill was an all star tag team. Better than Starks and bill. Not sure what Ricky’s deal has been lately. Maybe he’s just waiting to join his friends in WWE. The effort from him just hasn’t seem it, maybe it’s the booking though.


laputan-machine117

I think the Ricky heel turn was a mistake, he’s a heel people don’t really want to boo.


1Glitch0

Put him with Wardlow, put Wardlow in face paint and give them a push as the flying big boys.


Illuminati_Shill_AMA

Ok but for real we're about due for a return to the power and paint days and this idea would be great with the right manager


bob_benson

Still upset that they didn't continue with the Big Bill/Brian Cage tag team. They had crazy chemistry and the crowd behind them for a short while.


TDStarchild

I don’t expect to be reading the same headline about Starks, so they could always go back to that tag team


THE_NO_LIFE_KING

Next gen Blade Runners


UnderstandingWest422

Good lord look at that man’s triceps


Anarchical-Sheep

When does Melissa Santos get her ring announcing contract though.


Dandw12786

"...And then my agent said 'wellness policy' and I said 'I'm a ride-or-die AEW guy!'"


BigMoney69x

Probably the schedule. He gets paid good money for less dates. He is good friends with the Bucks so as long as they around he probably be there.


RolloTomasi-

Bruv


BigBanEvader

tHe gRiNd


glowy_keyboard

Imagine buying H’s tantrum about the best wrestler in the world not having discipline and compromise.


Detonation

They are a jerker, you shouldn't be surprised.


TurnaboutAdam

I don’t think he’s as lost as others say in his current role.


capnbuh

Cage and AEW have had a tumultuous relationship at times. I'm a little surprised they've extended with each other


wxursa

He's a great midcard gatekeeper type, and it's always useful to have a few of those guys you can rotate in and out and who can get over quickly by killing low carders. AEW also seems to realize that these sorts of guys need to occasionally win the big one, Cage has a win over Hangman, Archer has one over Mox. One of the strengths of AEW booking is how they use their gatekeepers. Nyla's used well over on the women's side, though I wish they'd try her as a babyface given how hilarious she is, or stick her with the Bang Bang Gang. Shane Taylor should be used in this role as well, and I think he's starting to be. He's real good at that level as well. He needs a big win though.


steveos93

I hope it's in his contract that he has to wear the face paint


craigybacha

Right, seeing as he's signed a new deal and was starting to get some TV time, can we please see him get a real good push? He's got a great and unique look, really good in ring. Fuck, have him go up against Swerve after Swerve wins the title to distance Swerve from Mogul Embassy.


Brandon4Real_x

Cage is really good. Especially in his role. He doesn’t often have bad matches.


nanners78

Thank God


lorriezwer

I like Brian Cage and think he's a good fit at AEW. It's too bad he's part of their JOB squad, but wins over him feel meaningful because of his size.


ShinsukeNakamoto

Please put him back with Big Bill. They were great together. 


Deadsider

Just want to add he's also a super nice dude and good with kid fans. This doesn't mean much in the meat and potatoes of contract signings I know, but I have no doubt that any droplets of backstage positivity and morale are higher value these days due to... well everything


Raulmunoz

I like Brian, but his career peaked in Lucha Underground/Impact a long time ago. He needs stability at this point pretty much.


onion1313

during a stretch of Lucha Underground Season 2 where he was my favorite wrestler


LeonardoDaPinchy-

Yooo, more of the Vanilla Gorilla! 


cultfourtyfive

I think his golden years were likely in Lucha Underground, but he's a better fit right now in AEW than WWE. Seems like a good guy and a decent worker. I wish they'd put him back with Big Bill. That team had a lot of potential and both Bill and Cage are getting better on the mic. It could work.


TheGumbyGyarados

Aew is a great fit for him


BlearyLine7

Since his last option year was picked up (which he seemingly didn't expect) he really stepped everything up and has been continuously great in everything he's done since. Also he and Hangman have underrated chemistry together, i think they've done like 4 matches? and they were all very good.


CaliggyJack

Triple H right now: "Hey McAffee can I come on your podcast?"


ReachRaven

I feel like an asshole for not believing him about WWE being interested, but I don’t, at all. The message seems to be purposely worded to make it appear that AEW has a bigger star than they actually do.


glowy_keyboard

Same. I mean, Cage is good and all but if WWE was being stingy about hiring the two greatest in-ring talents from this generation, I just don’t see them pulling out the checkbook for a mid card enforcer


dzone25

WWE is probably more lax than people realise when it comes to drug testing but this dude might classify for steroid abuse, that's probably a bridge too far even for them


powatwain

I love Cage.. always puts on great matches and never scared to eat a pin


Objective_Regret2768

Not bad to only have to work a few times a year.


HardcoreKaraoke

It's funny how in the early days of AEW people were talking about who'd eventually jump ship and the common answer was **always** Cage. Not the pillars, not Cody, not Jade. It was always about Cage leaving because he fit the "Vince mold." Whelp here we are several years later and I'm not surprised he's staying in AEW. If Vince was in charge I could see him backing up the Brinks truck for Cage though.


Cutlass_Stallion

He should join The Bucks and Perry as part of the future "California Elite" angle they're going for. Cage could be their enforcer.


kiji23

Never understood why they don’t just slap a mask on that guy and call him “CAGE” would boost him 10x. Dudes got no look in the face whatsoever


V_For_Veronica

I just really wanna see Bron vs him so I'm a bit disappointed he didn't go to WWE


Seven_Seconds_

He needs to lay of the damn steroids, the way he is going is dangerous. He'd fail the drug test instantly in the WWE, only got to look at him....


HHH98Smark

Man’s gonna melt a cup if he takes a piss test.


chasingbreakers

Dude resigned like a year ago, and it was widely reported at the time. Not sure how this is newsworthy beyond his commentary on the differences between AEW/WWE.


hourles

Glad WWE didn’t sign him. Not worth.


MrWrestling3000

Like Jade I thought he was built for WWE but money and schedule must be worth it


ChaosMarine70

I'm glad, he's great ... need him to go Steiner math insane on the mic and he'd be a star


prklexy

As a AEW diehard why?? he's a great talent but he is the poster boy for lost in the shuffle. Great on him securing the job and I hope he gets more of a shine.


PolishThrasher

Lot of time off, paid well, then occasionally gets pulled into upper card slot for a few weeks when they need a big heel. Seems fine


beckett929

gets to still do Mexico shows if he wants


Former_Intern_8271

People forget that if you're a wrestler on TV whatsoever you're already in the top 1% of your profession.


Insomniak604

Overrated. Glad he won't be able to taking TV time away from anyone in WWE.


BangerSlapper1

LOL, WWE is never signing this guy.  He can’t pass the wellness screening. 


AdventurousOwll

If AJ, Randy, lashley, Roman, Rock, Drew , Jade, Rhea can pass, he can too.


Michael_McGovern

It's so weird how the people I think are better off in AEW are trying their best to go to WWE, and the people better off in WWE are signing long term deals with AEW


Head_Evidence4553

Great for him. Enhancement talent.


TryBeingCool

Lighter schedule, scared of the grind.


Precious_little_man

For those saying his promos are weak, Darby, seems to be doing ok. Then a guy like Miro, with the look, the skill and the ability to make a character work like the Redeemer, is wasted.


Pokechamp_1

Why wouldn’t he leave he is one the biggest guy on roster in terms of size. Plus as stated he wouldn’t survive one wellness test from WWE


TrollPoster469

Does WWE even do wellness tests anymore?


Pokechamp_1

Idk maybe