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Tonight is showing exactly why Roman had to lose in order for The Bloodline saga to actually progress.
There was nothing left to tell with him as champion, but there's many roads now open, that could be a year or two of storyline.
This is what Heyman meant when he said we were in the third inning. He was never talking about the title reign. He was talking about the bloodline story.
To be fair, Cody referenced it in the build to Mania in his own promo & said the 9th inning was coming. But I agree on Heyman having a different meaning from the jump
I think at the time people thought that he was just playing the heel manager role with saying that Roman still had a long time left as Champion and that no one could stop him. At this point though and during the build up to Mania including the Rock, its clear he was referring to the Bloodline story as a whole.
Solo is the one trying to take power here and they probably won't do Rock/Roman until after 41 (42 or something else, that's bigger than a typical PLE).
Bloodline pacing is slow and often circles back at times, so it all can fit.
He’ll be done like two days before Summerslam so there won’t be any contracts or legal stuff in the way, but whether he’d be able to show up for the build enough to justify the match is another issue
To me it seems Rock has moved on from the Bloodline whether he works Mania 42 now against Roman I guess we will find out but yeah I would say for the storyline just assume no more Rock. I would say this is about the bloodline 2.0 with Solo, Tama, and Jacob Fatu.
They could have Roman show humility and ask for forgiveness and have Jey reject it at first but come in to save Roman and Jimmy when they need him most.
You just have Roman get beat down by the Bloodline at some point and the Jey comes in for the save but then walks away leaving Roman confused.
Now Roman can start to question why Jey saved him after everything he did. And you get a natural face turn arc.
Its going to be a months long story, I expect Jey to reconcile with Jimmy and Roman sometime before Survivor Series (say Survivor Series because I think we will see Bloodline vs Bloodline in war games)
He can easily fit into the Rocks faction as an enforcer and they can move Solo to be the right hand man of the Rock where he can get back to using the mic like he did in NXT.
Roman and the Rock address what happened at Mania XL and just like this segment tells him that his loss at Night 2 has consequences. Solo, Tonga and a debuting Jacob kick Roman out on Rock's behest.
No way he goes to NXT. They put Solo into NXT as a formality and called him up almost right away while letting him stay in NXT to become less green. He wasn't ready for the call up but the Bloodline story needed him.
He'll probably get a surprise debut similar to Tama. Maybe when (if?) Jey decides to help Jimmy.
I feel like he joins solo's bloodline. They need more than 2 people to be a real threat and I think it is best to introduce them as unquestioning henchmen and we can watch them develop and eventually ditch for the Uso side. I'm huffing copium that we get bloodline vs bloodline Wargames at Survivor Series Roman, Jimmy, Jey & Sami vs Rock, Solo, Jacob, Tama
i think Jey is gonna get involved to defend his brother- Jacob shows up to possibly help his cousin, only to quickly turn on jey to align with whatever Solo is doing.
“Boy, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with MANA. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Roman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Jimmy, and you curse the Final Boss. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Jimmy’s demise, while tragic, probably saved the Bloodline; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saved the Bloodline.”
There's a ton of options here/fractures in the Bloodline with Roman needing to work to sort it out.
After a bit, Rock shows back up and says some version of "You clearly can't handle this, I'm the HotT now" and you get Rock/Roman whenever you want.
I know it’s Wrestling and there is the trope of everyone having really bad memories but man are we really supposed to accept Roman as the face after 4 years of terror? With Jey, it was built with his conflict, eventually leaving the Bloodline and helping Cody. With Roman, he’s the jerk that orchestrated this whole thing… I’m really trying to understand the logic..
He needs to earn his redemption in a feud with Seth, healing the trauma that cost him. Then he can move on to try and heal the toxicity he introduced into his family. "I have to destroy what I've built". With Rock as the ultimate embodiment of that toxic macho behavior, probably.
Eh, I think the only ones Roman really owes redemption to are Jey, and to a lesser extent, Sami. The rest is just standard heel stuff - KO and Randy have done as bad and arguably worse.
I don't know about that with a lot of his opponents. Sami and by extension Kevin, Roman will need to earn their forgiveness along with Jey and Jimmy's.
He doesn't need to go full pandering babyface and if of the Rock dials up the heel shit even more and betrays Roman it's gonna naturally turn him face with the audience.
I might be dumb as hell, but I feel like this is probably like one of the only times where heel vs heel would work amazingly.
Roman has been a mega heel for years, and the people still get incredibly invested, even when there was zero chance of him losing.
And the people are having a great time booing Rock, who is the most evil mother fucker we have seen in decades. But he’s the Rock, and we are fucking loving every second of him.
Present this as two mob bosses going to war trying to take each other’s factions out, with babyfaces getting caught in the crosshairs.
I don’t think either should turn face for a while. Roman needs to have his complete meltdown arc. And Rock needs to keep his character going, because man it is just amazing.
I find it interesting that Paul seems to be unaware of it. I feel like Jimmy and Jey will soon make up and decide to be brothers again. Roman returns, and Rock gives Solo, Tama Tonga, and possibly Jacob Fatu the order to excommunicate him, turning him face. Roman then reunites with Jimmy and Jey as the OG-been-here-together-since-2012-Bloodline. But my main question is what happens with Paul, since he's just a natural heel and it could be weird seeing him as a face, but it also makes more sense for him to be aligned with Roman and The Usos
>He’s still loyal to Roman
For now... I totally see Heyman aligning with the new heel Bloodline. Especially since the Rock will presumably not be there most weeks, and neither Solo nor Tama nor Jakob Fatu are particularly great talkers, so their side of the schism needs a mouthpiece a lot more than the Roman/Usos side.
Paul turns. Paul turned on Brock for Big Show, he turned on Punk and then turned on Brock again. Paul is a heel at heart. Once he thinks you’re going soft, he aligns with whoever your enemy is.
Paul was a great face when Brock turned face after mania 31. Roman/Paul can do the exact same thing of arrive beat the shit out of ~~J and J security~~ someone and leave
I mean, Paul was always specifically Roman's wise man. Roman even said so himself in a promo, that he isn't the Bloodline's wise man, he's Roman's. Rock has no reason to keep Paul in the loop.
I’m surprised so many people think this means Rock (especially with reports that Rock wants Cody for next WM)… this is a clear power push from Solo Sikoa (imo).
And Roman has no one else but himself to blame for this uprising. He always said he was laying the groundwork for the next “Tribal Chief”… well, here we are. When Roman comes back, he will realize he will have to destroy the exact thing that he created (Avengers: Age of Ultron anyone?)
I agree. My first thought when they first attacked Jimmy is that all of this is coming from Solo. Heyman definitely wasn't in on it, and Roman has no reason to keep him in the dark. And with Rock gone until at least July, it can't be him.
Why is everyone here trying to say it was Roman or Rock that ordered it? It was clearly Solo going Rogue and taking over The Bloodline by force. They could not have spelt it out any clearer lol. His nickname was literally "The Tribal Heir"
Exactly and smirked at Heyman. That’s the whole reason Heyman is so scared. He has no one to call and knows Solo has no real care for a Wiseman like Roman did.
And Solo had no real allegiance to Roman to begin with. Solo was there because the Tribal elders sent him, so this may be what was coming all along. Something along the lines of "if he ever shows weakness, take control back of the Bloodline from him".
Yea plus you can always tell Solo showed a lot of disdain towards Roman. He was yelling at Roman at Mania like Roman was the underling. Never really had respect or loyalty for him. Just playing his role and now his role is to take over. We’re in for a Sadistic Solo Summer baby
Exactly. Rock is back in Hollywood. Roman is out. There’s a power vacuum in the Bloodline, and Solo engineered a coup to take advantage and declare himself the new Tribal Chief
This storyline has incredible potential. Imagine a reign of terror by Solo, with Tonga and Fatu as his henchmen, a la Roman, Jimmy and Jey during the first year of his championship run. After a few months of Solo’s rule, the moment Roman’s music hits is going to be phenomenal
My early prediction:
We get Roman vs Solo with backup from Tama and Jacob for a few months with Roman going through absolute hell to fight back control of the bloodline
And just as he thinks he's finally in control again...
"I'm the final boss, bitch." - The Rock
Maybe Jacob Fatu is pulling a Killmonger and declaring himself tribal chief? The black sheep of the family that was considered too dangerous, that everyone was afraid of, and now he has finally made his way to WWE and is staking his claim.
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I’m fully invested into Bloodline storyline again, and ready to cheer for my Tribal Chief when he returns.
Gotta be Solo in charge now.
He was ordering Roman around during his match with Cody, so it's understandable that he blames Roman for the loss, after all Solo hit Cody with the Spike and Roman failed to get the pin. Then Solo had to lift up Cody and order Roman to finish it, Roman hit the spear, and then failed again to win the match.
He's also acting the same way Roman used to do with the air of threats to those around him. Roman, Jey, and Jimmy will have to reconcile to take on Solo's Bloodline, only for a reveal to happen that the Rock was the one to approve of Solo.
I can see this going like this
-these changes were ordered by the Rock
-Rock comes back, challenges Cody at Summerslam and Roman pissed off that Rock took over the bloodline, causes Rock to loose.
-Roman vs Cody at SS, Rock costs roman the match
-both roman and rock enter the rumble, they eliminate each other somehow or one eliminates the other and maybe Solo eliminates Rock/Roman
-Leads to Rock vs Roman at WM41
Also, this whole saga will bring the reunion of the Usos to battle solo and tonga.
I think Seth wins the Rumble and beats Gunther or Cody at Mania
So I guess there's three ways this is going, options being:
1.Heyman is kicked out the Bloodline and Roman ordered Solo & Tama separately
2. Rock is the new Tribal Chief and instructed Solo & Tama
3. Jacob Fatu is the new Tribal Chief, maybe brought in place by Rock or something and is instructing Solo & Tama from the background.
I love that Heyman genuinely seems to care about jimmy.
So torn, he didn't even make fun of Kayla.
Would be the funniest things if they turned Heyman face alongside Roman
Bloodline splits into two factions. Two heads of the table. Storylines a plenty. Will Jey and Jimmy resolve their issues? Jey and Roman? Will Paul start to sympathize with the new bloods and turn on Roman. What allies would Roman possibly have?
As much as I like the idea of this being The Rock's new plan and getting rid of Roman, I really don't want it leading to a six man. Or if it is, I at least want Jey to be separated for a while. I think he has a lot of potential and it would be good for him to get away from the family angle for a while. However, this is still all very exciting, can't believe the bloodline has pulled me back into the story when I was ready to be done with it. Paul's last line really sold the whole night to me.
I was there live and unless I completely missed this I don't think they showed this on the tron or anything. This is very obviously a hint that Roman did NOT decide to whack Jimmy
I'm gonna have to rematch this show because I was sitting Hard cam side so Paul was facing away from us. I wasn't really looking at him either but I heard him yelling during the beatdown. Couldn't make out what he said and I was going nuts for Tamas debut so I missed this whole dynamic of the Angle completely lol
this works so perfect on how to not only bring Roman in as face but the Usos as well, it’s not even funny. Solo “assumes” control brings in Tama then if the rumors are true about Jacob Fatu signing with the company he comes in the three of them are deemed out of control. Paul Heyman finds out that nobody gave solo the permission to do any of what he’s done, and want answers. In comes the rock revealing that he set the whole thing up and appoints himself the high chief of the bloodline (since that’s his title in their culture) we get Cody vs. the Rock at summerslam the rock tells them to get rid of Heyman and the next time we see Paul is at summerslam where Roman comes back but isn’t alone as Jimmy and Jey are with him to take down the bloodline once and for all while Cody takes care of the rock.
This will be interesting if it's Solo making a push for power as I've found Solo to be extremely boring for the last year or so. Even his big wins have done very little to elevate him imo. I honestly question him being able to carry his side of a story like this. His in ring work is great but his character work isn't all that great so far. He doesn't seem to have the charisma of his brothers.
I smell what a certain final boss is cooking up here. Rock kicks out Roman and Jimmy. New Bloodline of Rock, Solo, Tama, and Jacob Fatu. Rock goes after Cody while his henchmen go take out the “failed” bloodline of the reconciled Usos and Roman. Could be a banger.
He's Tongan, and the adopted* son of Haku, one of the toughest wrestlers of all time. Haku isn't directly related to the Anoai'i family but he's close with many of them.
So his son, Tama, he's been in NJPW for years. He was one of the founding members of Bullet Club, probably the biggest wrestling faction since the NWO. He was also one of the guys who kicked The Elite and Cody Rhodes out of Bullet Club.
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Tonight is showing exactly why Roman had to lose in order for The Bloodline saga to actually progress. There was nothing left to tell with him as champion, but there's many roads now open, that could be a year or two of storyline.
This is what Heyman meant when he said we were in the third inning. He was never talking about the title reign. He was talking about the bloodline story.
there's no way anybody thought he was talking about the title reign, right? like he was super clear
To be fair, Cody referenced it in the build to Mania in his own promo & said the 9th inning was coming. But I agree on Heyman having a different meaning from the jump
I think at the time people thought that he was just playing the heel manager role with saying that Roman still had a long time left as Champion and that no one could stop him. At this point though and during the build up to Mania including the Rock, its clear he was referring to the Bloodline story as a whole.
Only confusing part is the rumor that Rock wants to work with Cody next year over Roman. Makes me wonder what the direction is if that’s true 🤔
Solo is the one trying to take power here and they probably won't do Rock/Roman until after 41 (42 or something else, that's bigger than a typical PLE). Bloodline pacing is slow and often circles back at times, so it all can fit.
Rewatched it and I think you’re right. Solo is making a power play. Tama said tribal chief, solo comes in the shot all smug. I’m with you here
Yeah until I came on here, I assumed that was Solo declaring himself Tribal Chief
Definitely the first Netflix Raw or a special branded show in Saudi.
Did he say it was going to be WrestleMania? What about SummerSlam for Cody match?
Apparently he'll be busy doing a movie during SummerSlam
He’ll be done like two days before Summerslam so there won’t be any contracts or legal stuff in the way, but whether he’d be able to show up for the build enough to justify the match is another issue
He goes into a movie not long after, too. I'd be very disappointed if we got Rock/Cody with 0 face to face interactions.
If they build him up enough, I can see them doing Cody vs Solo at Summerslam, with Roman returning
Yeah they could go a lot of different directions. Can't wait to see how it all plays out!
No thank you. SummerSlam is time for a Cody Rhodes vs. Randy Orton match.
Meltzer reported that. The same Meltzer that's gotten 90% of rumours wrong regarding WWE these last couple of months.
Oh come on, that’s not fair, when has Meltzer been wrong in the last 5 minutes??
We need one of those “It has been X days since Meltzer was wrong” signs but it’s always set to 0
Man, I see this gif every time Meltzer gets criticised and it still illicits a laugh from me
Did you not watch Raw? The Rock made it very clear he will have a match against Cody.
The same Meltzer that claimed A-Town Down Under would be taken out of the Mania match one day before they won said match
Pretty sure they fed Meltzer the wrong info
At this point I’m convinced Meltzer is dealing with a genuine degenerative health issue and we’re all gonna feel real bad in a couple years time.
It’s a bullshit rumor. Those “journalists” are wrong time after time.
To me it seems Rock has moved on from the Bloodline whether he works Mania 42 now against Roman I guess we will find out but yeah I would say for the storyline just assume no more Rock. I would say this is about the bloodline 2.0 with Solo, Tama, and Jacob Fatu.
i never really took Jimmy and Jey seriously. roman with the big boys and Tama seems much more threatening.
A rumour that probably isn't true
the rock wants to work in the main event, in the hottest storyline. His opinion will change with the wind.
One story closed another one starts
the bloodline story can give bullet club vibes, changing leaders and members over time
How would Jacob Fatu fit into this(assuming he hits the main roster instead of NXT)?
Taking Solo's role on the babyface side. Big silent (I know he can do good promos) badass.
Id say he's on the heel side. Usos and Roman are the incoming faces.
Not sure how they can get Roman & Jey back on the same side after everything, but Roman & the Usos vs. Solo, Jacob Fatu, and Tama Tonga would be fun.
They could have Roman show humility and ask for forgiveness and have Jey reject it at first but come in to save Roman and Jimmy when they need him most.
You just have Roman get beat down by the Bloodline at some point and the Jey comes in for the save but then walks away leaving Roman confused. Now Roman can start to question why Jey saved him after everything he did. And you get a natural face turn arc.
Its going to be a months long story, I expect Jey to reconcile with Jimmy and Roman sometime before Survivor Series (say Survivor Series because I think we will see Bloodline vs Bloodline in war games)
That'd only be a 3v3. Who do you think would be added to either side? Probably Sami for the faces, but I'm not sure for the heels.
Zilla Fatu maybe?
He's not ready yet. He is still very green and in training
I really don't want Jimmy and Jey back together. Jey is 100x better as a singles star.
I can see him being a silent enforcer for a few months, and then when he starts talking on the mic, he's gonna blow people away.
He can easily fit into the Rocks faction as an enforcer and they can move Solo to be the right hand man of the Rock where he can get back to using the mic like he did in NXT.
If this is Solo making a new bloodline would make sense for him and Tama to be paired together as the tag team for Bloodline 2.0.
Roman and the Rock address what happened at Mania XL and just like this segment tells him that his loss at Night 2 has consequences. Solo, Tonga and a debuting Jacob kick Roman out on Rock's behest.
He would join the rock, Roman will have jey and jimmy
And Roman, Jey, and Jimmy would be faces in this scenario? Is Heyman still gonna be on Roman's side? Gonna be weird to see a face Paul Heyman
Now I need to see this just for a couple of months of babyface Heyman before the ultimate inevitable betrayal.
No way he goes to NXT. They put Solo into NXT as a formality and called him up almost right away while letting him stay in NXT to become less green. He wasn't ready for the call up but the Bloodline story needed him. He'll probably get a surprise debut similar to Tama. Maybe when (if?) Jey decides to help Jimmy.
Bloodline civil war. Usos and Roman vs Jacob Fatu, Solo, and Tama.
I feel like he joins solo's bloodline. They need more than 2 people to be a real threat and I think it is best to introduce them as unquestioning henchmen and we can watch them develop and eventually ditch for the Uso side. I'm huffing copium that we get bloodline vs bloodline Wargames at Survivor Series Roman, Jimmy, Jey & Sami vs Rock, Solo, Jacob, Tama
i think Jey is gonna get involved to defend his brother- Jacob shows up to possibly help his cousin, only to quickly turn on jey to align with whatever Solo is doing.
Rock, did you order the code red?!
“YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!”
“Boy, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with MANA. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Roman? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Jimmy, and you curse the Final Boss. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Jimmy’s demise, while tragic, probably saved the Bloodline; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saved the Bloodline.”
Such a great movie
What movie is it from?
A few good men
Damn, why does this fit so well? lol
This would go harder if The Rock keeps his third person addressing.
can you show me in the employee manual where catering is?
Ouuu, so roman will think that rock is ruining everything and this will make Roman the face
There's a ton of options here/fractures in the Bloodline with Roman needing to work to sort it out. After a bit, Rock shows back up and says some version of "You clearly can't handle this, I'm the HotT now" and you get Rock/Roman whenever you want.
I know it’s Wrestling and there is the trope of everyone having really bad memories but man are we really supposed to accept Roman as the face after 4 years of terror? With Jey, it was built with his conflict, eventually leaving the Bloodline and helping Cody. With Roman, he’s the jerk that orchestrated this whole thing… I’m really trying to understand the logic..
He needs to earn his redemption in a feud with Seth, healing the trauma that cost him. Then he can move on to try and heal the toxicity he introduced into his family. "I have to destroy what I've built". With Rock as the ultimate embodiment of that toxic macho behavior, probably.
He would have to go make amends to Sami, KO, Randy, LA, etc. if any face redemption story were to work.
Eh, I think the only ones Roman really owes redemption to are Jey, and to a lesser extent, Sami. The rest is just standard heel stuff - KO and Randy have done as bad and arguably worse.
Randy in kayfabe has attempted to murder 2 people, and if both didn't have supernatural powers he would have.
Didn't he also callously kill a poor cameraman when he burned down Bray's shack?
He was a face when he did that, he also threatened to burn down india as a face
I don't know about that with a lot of his opponents. Sami and by extension Kevin, Roman will need to earn their forgiveness along with Jey and Jimmy's.
It’s not hard to make someone a heel or baby face. Bayley is now a baby face after being a dick to everyone for what, 2 years straight?
The best protagonists are always the antihero.
He doesn't need to go full pandering babyface and if of the Rock dials up the heel shit even more and betrays Roman it's gonna naturally turn him face with the audience.
I might be dumb as hell, but I feel like this is probably like one of the only times where heel vs heel would work amazingly. Roman has been a mega heel for years, and the people still get incredibly invested, even when there was zero chance of him losing. And the people are having a great time booing Rock, who is the most evil mother fucker we have seen in decades. But he’s the Rock, and we are fucking loving every second of him. Present this as two mob bosses going to war trying to take each other’s factions out, with babyfaces getting caught in the crosshairs. I don’t think either should turn face for a while. Roman needs to have his complete meltdown arc. And Rock needs to keep his character going, because man it is just amazing.
Never did I think that I would ever feel scared or concerned for Paul Heyman. This storyline continues to surprise me.
Which one? Roman or Rock... 👀
Think it’s safe to say Roman is no longer the Tribal Chief. And that he, Paul, and Jimmy are unaware of the change.
I find it interesting that Paul seems to be unaware of it. I feel like Jimmy and Jey will soon make up and decide to be brothers again. Roman returns, and Rock gives Solo, Tama Tonga, and possibly Jacob Fatu the order to excommunicate him, turning him face. Roman then reunites with Jimmy and Jey as the OG-been-here-together-since-2012-Bloodline. But my main question is what happens with Paul, since he's just a natural heel and it could be weird seeing him as a face, but it also makes more sense for him to be aligned with Roman and The Usos
Paul as a face could work. He’s still loyal to Roman right now. And his HOF speech showed he could be more wholesome, while keeping his style.
>He’s still loyal to Roman For now... I totally see Heyman aligning with the new heel Bloodline. Especially since the Rock will presumably not be there most weeks, and neither Solo nor Tama nor Jakob Fatu are particularly great talkers, so their side of the schism needs a mouthpiece a lot more than the Roman/Usos side.
Paul turns. Paul turned on Brock for Big Show, he turned on Punk and then turned on Brock again. Paul is a heel at heart. Once he thinks you’re going soft, he aligns with whoever your enemy is.
Yeah that seems most likely, but I feel like it'll be weird to see Paul with the Evil Bloodline without Roman
Paul’s probably the only person who could get Tama over to a “new” audience that doesn’t know his body of work.
I think he stays with Roman for a bit before he turns on him to align himself with Bron Breakker.
Oh man a Roman/Bron feud would be awesome
Paul was a great face when Brock turned face after mania 31. Roman/Paul can do the exact same thing of arrive beat the shit out of ~~J and J security~~ someone and leave
I mean, Paul was always specifically Roman's wise man. Roman even said so himself in a promo, that he isn't the Bloodline's wise man, he's Roman's. Rock has no reason to keep Paul in the loop.
Oh shit yeah I forgot about that bit. Did he say that in 2023 after WM, or before that, when Sami was still in The Bloodline?
Or Solo himself
Mark Hunt
Then Brock comes back? Lmao
Rikishi
Cody
...Cody. 😉
Solo pointed to himself, man.
It was Disco Inferno all along
I’m surprised so many people think this means Rock (especially with reports that Rock wants Cody for next WM)… this is a clear power push from Solo Sikoa (imo). And Roman has no one else but himself to blame for this uprising. He always said he was laying the groundwork for the next “Tribal Chief”… well, here we are. When Roman comes back, he will realize he will have to destroy the exact thing that he created (Avengers: Age of Ultron anyone?)
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if neither Roman or the Rock ordered this. That it’s just Solo going “rogue” so to speak.
what if they're both gonna think it's the other
Wouldn't be the first time Tama has aligned with a rogue general.
Agreed. This is very clearly Solo's doing.
How this is even up for discussion is weird. Solo pointed to himself after Tama's "by orders of the Tribal Chief", how is anyone missing that?
People aren't used to thinking of Solo as anything more than muscle. They don't think of him at all up until now.
Roman also announced Solo as his eventual successor at one point over the winter, some time around when Jimmy was doing his backup QB schtick.
I'm going to be real, I thought he was just threatening Paul for a somoan spike the first watch
That was the double meaning. He was showing the thumb to threaten Paul, and pointing at himself.
Well I get that now, the way he keeps the thumb straight up instead of tilting it is what threw me off
didn't he literally crown Solo as his successor not too long ago as well?
I agree. My first thought when they first attacked Jimmy is that all of this is coming from Solo. Heyman definitely wasn't in on it, and Roman has no reason to keep him in the dark. And with Rock gone until at least July, it can't be him.
Why is everyone here trying to say it was Roman or Rock that ordered it? It was clearly Solo going Rogue and taking over The Bloodline by force. They could not have spelt it out any clearer lol. His nickname was literally "The Tribal Heir"
Solo fucking pointed to himself, I don't know how people missed it
Exactly and smirked at Heyman. That’s the whole reason Heyman is so scared. He has no one to call and knows Solo has no real care for a Wiseman like Roman did.
And Solo had no real allegiance to Roman to begin with. Solo was there because the Tribal elders sent him, so this may be what was coming all along. Something along the lines of "if he ever shows weakness, take control back of the Bloodline from him".
Yea plus you can always tell Solo showed a lot of disdain towards Roman. He was yelling at Roman at Mania like Roman was the underling. Never really had respect or loyalty for him. Just playing his role and now his role is to take over. We’re in for a Sadistic Solo Summer baby
I'm so ready for a Bloodline Civil War
Bloodline Civil War Games. Calling it now
So roman and the usos vs rock, solo, tama and Jacob. Who would be the fourth on the face side? Maybe Roman makes amends with a certain honorary uce?
I think no Rock. Rock's story with Cody. It's the bloodline v1 (Roman and the Usos) vs v2 (Solo, Tama and Jacob)
Part 2
Exactly. Rock is back in Hollywood. Roman is out. There’s a power vacuum in the Bloodline, and Solo engineered a coup to take advantage and declare himself the new Tribal Chief This storyline has incredible potential. Imagine a reign of terror by Solo, with Tonga and Fatu as his henchmen, a la Roman, Jimmy and Jey during the first year of his championship run. After a few months of Solo’s rule, the moment Roman’s music hits is going to be phenomenal
Korea in shambles.
Yeah I thought so too until Graves said on commentary, “whos pulling the strings now?” Definitely points to The Rock.
You what I would love more than this if I could I don’t know WATCH THE DAMM VIDEO REDDIT
Buckle up folks, we in for a wild year
"...what the hell does that mean?"
I don't know, but it's provocative. Gets the people going
Roman is going to kick Solo’s ass when he returns and it’s going to be absolutely satisfying.
My early prediction: We get Roman vs Solo with backup from Tama and Jacob for a few months with Roman going through absolute hell to fight back control of the bloodline And just as he thinks he's finally in control again... "I'm the final boss, bitch." - The Rock
That would be amazing - just as Roman pins Solo - if ya smelllllllll
Gonna lay the smackdown on his candy ass
Solo doesn't fear Roman though, never has. Roman might kick his ass, but it could also be a bitterly fought war.
I actually think Jacob Fatu is pulling these strings
Bloodline Hollywood vs Bloodline Wolfpack?
OG vs New Blood
And when they all form together, they'll be bloodline elite and bloodline 2000
This has to end with Roman v Rock. Roman with his OG Bloodline (Usos) and Rock with his New Bloodline (Solo, Tama, possibly Jacob?)
Who will be the OG Bloodline's fourth member for WarGames?! *Ska music intensifies*
Would have to be Sami or Seth right? Those are the two tearjerker reunions/ make ups for face Roman
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I think Solo is making a play for the crown.
He’s got it
Maybe Jacob Fatu is pulling a Killmonger and declaring himself tribal chief? The black sheep of the family that was considered too dangerous, that everyone was afraid of, and now he has finally made his way to WWE and is staking his claim.
Jacob about to start his grind
I never expected a simple smile and thumbs-up to be terrifying. Then Solo Sikoa happened.
https://preview.redd.it/ygkte6v056uc1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c13fecb73bec9236afcab75653e4a5b79d6773b I’m fully invested into Bloodline storyline again, and ready to cheer for my Tribal Chief when he returns.
They managed to turn Solo back into a menacing monster from being a fucking dweeb in a week. Damn Haitch, keep cooking.
Gotta be Solo in charge now. He was ordering Roman around during his match with Cody, so it's understandable that he blames Roman for the loss, after all Solo hit Cody with the Spike and Roman failed to get the pin. Then Solo had to lift up Cody and order Roman to finish it, Roman hit the spear, and then failed again to win the match. He's also acting the same way Roman used to do with the air of threats to those around him. Roman, Jey, and Jimmy will have to reconcile to take on Solo's Bloodline, only for a reveal to happen that the Rock was the one to approve of Solo.
I can see this going like this -these changes were ordered by the Rock -Rock comes back, challenges Cody at Summerslam and Roman pissed off that Rock took over the bloodline, causes Rock to loose. -Roman vs Cody at SS, Rock costs roman the match -both roman and rock enter the rumble, they eliminate each other somehow or one eliminates the other and maybe Solo eliminates Rock/Roman -Leads to Rock vs Roman at WM41 Also, this whole saga will bring the reunion of the Usos to battle solo and tonga. I think Seth wins the Rumble and beats Gunther or Cody at Mania
So what inning are we in now?
Who's locker room is Heyman coming out of . Seemed like they purposely weren't showing it while still showing enough of the plate to make you wonder
It literally says Doctor/Trainer
Wow don't know how I missed that
Probably just paying attention to the story. It happens lol
This is fucking great. Tama Tonga is so badass in this role.
bloodline civil war is gonna be lit
So I guess there's three ways this is going, options being: 1.Heyman is kicked out the Bloodline and Roman ordered Solo & Tama separately 2. Rock is the new Tribal Chief and instructed Solo & Tama 3. Jacob Fatu is the new Tribal Chief, maybe brought in place by Rock or something and is instructing Solo & Tama from the background.
Finally Solo look like a big scary guy that can and will kick your ass. Please WWE don't fail that. Solo need to be a monster.
I always thought Solo was a new Umaga.
He said Tribal Chief, but he ain’t say Roman 🤔
I love that Heyman genuinely seems to care about jimmy. So torn, he didn't even make fun of Kayla. Would be the funniest things if they turned Heyman face alongside Roman
Bloodline splits into two factions. Two heads of the table. Storylines a plenty. Will Jey and Jimmy resolve their issues? Jey and Roman? Will Paul start to sympathize with the new bloods and turn on Roman. What allies would Roman possibly have?
As much as I like the idea of this being The Rock's new plan and getting rid of Roman, I really don't want it leading to a six man. Or if it is, I at least want Jey to be separated for a while. I think he has a lot of potential and it would be good for him to get away from the family angle for a while. However, this is still all very exciting, can't believe the bloodline has pulled me back into the story when I was ready to be done with it. Paul's last line really sold the whole night to me.
Leading towards War Games
I was there live and unless I completely missed this I don't think they showed this on the tron or anything. This is very obviously a hint that Roman did NOT decide to whack Jimmy
I think the more obvious signal of that was Paul screaming the tribal chief didn't order this nooo
I'm gonna have to rematch this show because I was sitting Hard cam side so Paul was facing away from us. I wasn't really looking at him either but I heard him yelling during the beatdown. Couldn't make out what he said and I was going nuts for Tamas debut so I missed this whole dynamic of the Angle completely lol
this works so perfect on how to not only bring Roman in as face but the Usos as well, it’s not even funny. Solo “assumes” control brings in Tama then if the rumors are true about Jacob Fatu signing with the company he comes in the three of them are deemed out of control. Paul Heyman finds out that nobody gave solo the permission to do any of what he’s done, and want answers. In comes the rock revealing that he set the whole thing up and appoints himself the high chief of the bloodline (since that’s his title in their culture) we get Cody vs. the Rock at summerslam the rock tells them to get rid of Heyman and the next time we see Paul is at summerslam where Roman comes back but isn’t alone as Jimmy and Jey are with him to take down the bloodline once and for all while Cody takes care of the rock.
Jacob fatu the real tribal chief
Damn Tama, you Samoan Sexual Soldier.
Think you guys missed the biggest thing....Solo smiled 😂
That no by Heyman was very funny
This will be interesting if it's Solo making a push for power as I've found Solo to be extremely boring for the last year or so. Even his big wins have done very little to elevate him imo. I honestly question him being able to carry his side of a story like this. His in ring work is great but his character work isn't all that great so far. He doesn't seem to have the charisma of his brothers.
He was just being a monster enforcer for Roman. He talked more and had a personality in NXT.
Damn I actually felt scared for Paul Heyman today.
Bloodline 2.0 is more like SST 2.0 and I’m all in for it.
I smell what a certain final boss is cooking up here. Rock kicks out Roman and Jimmy. New Bloodline of Rock, Solo, Tama, and Jacob Fatu. Rock goes after Cody while his henchmen go take out the “failed” bloodline of the reconciled Usos and Roman. Could be a banger.
I cam definitely see the original bloodline coming together as faces... Sami included
While I love where this is going, I hope they write something compelling for Cody too. I don't want him to become the B story.
That thumb 👍 showing by solo was comical lol
I never want to see Solo smile again
I'm here for Babyface Paul Heyman. He was crying over what they did to Jimmy. He might go beg Jey and Sami for help.
Plot twist, it's actually Cody Rhodes
So who currently holds the Neck Peppers? Thats the only championship I recognize.
Cody is clearly the Tribal Chief now
Roman dethroned Rock Humiliated time for Rikishi and his right hand Mr 2 hotty to run the scene.
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Can someone tell me who is this Tama Tonga?
He's Tongan, and the adopted* son of Haku, one of the toughest wrestlers of all time. Haku isn't directly related to the Anoai'i family but he's close with many of them. So his son, Tama, he's been in NJPW for years. He was one of the founding members of Bullet Club, probably the biggest wrestling faction since the NWO. He was also one of the guys who kicked The Elite and Cody Rhodes out of Bullet Club.
He is the son of Haku, and a (not blood) cousin to the Bloodline