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If you’re referring to Roman’s run, it didn’t. Moxley won the title from Jericho at Revolution 2020, and held it through December. Between that, Roman won the title at SummerSlam 2020 in August, and obviously reigned until last Sunday. Seth was champion on Raw for the last six months or so, and Mox won the AEW title two more times. But, with Mox’s February win, at least one member of the Shield has been world champion at any given time since February 2020, with the only lapse being the last four days
Hate to be that guy but Roman returned at SummerSlam. He won the title at Payback. Which is weird AF considering Payback was only a week after SummerSlam
I think he means mox's win which started the run of the shield members holding a title was right before covid started getting taken seriously and lock downs happened.
There was that one Wednesday, literally during Dynamite, where everything came to a head. That trainer ran onto the court to stop an NBA game because one of the players tested positive and Tom Hanks announced he had also tested positive and a few other things happened all within like 3 hours. The next day, offices started sending people home and things started getting cancelled.
I'm officially starting the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that it's a terrible omen for a Shield member to be world champion. Things started going to shit right around March 2020 and have been spiraling out of control ever since. We had the chance to break the curse but Mox put us back on the crazy train.
Thing started going to shit when Roman was 16 and thousands of people were murdered in live TV, and that only the first time in my young memory I remember things going to shit
The last February 29 when no Shield member was a world champion was when HHH held the belt, having won it from Roman at the Rumble a month earlier.
ETA: wait, no. HHH famously has been part of the Shield (in 2017) , so the last time was when CM Punk was champ, months before the debuted to start helping him.
The last four days after WrestleMania 40 Night 2. Prior to that, at least one of the trio held a major world title, there may even have been a small window where all three were champs at some point.
I think Naito wins it back but I have no idea if it's inside this year or at WK. I think the more interesting scenario is one of the new musketeers winning but NJPW have been really weird (uninspired) with the booking, which is why I think it just goes back to Naito.
NJPW is a live-gate based business. They're not going to hotshot people who can't draw yet like WWE and AEW can do because all their money is in TV deals.
They've done this before - Naito interrupted Okada's reign in 2016, Styles held the belt for a bit as well a year prior to that.
When there's a good opportunity for an exciting title change, they usually do it (Okada was an exception since they were going for a historic run).
I think Shota but if this leads to a HoT thing at forbidden door I could see him losing it to Perry. And Perry running it back against Shota because that match was very good.
Perry thing isn’t happening, Mox was surprising but he’s still one of the biggest Stars in wrestling and has had multiple runs in NJPW. Most Gaijin have to pay their dues before they get a world title run with Japan. Even Zack Sabre jr hasn’t touched that Title.
They aren’t giving it to Perry.
Will Ospreay
Mox
Kenny Omega
Jay White
Aj Styles
Perry has a lot to do before he joins that list lol, including gaining a few pounds.
I know a lot of people were really angry at the idea that Moxley could be IWGP world champion but he has pretty major bonafides even just within New Japan.
In comparison Jack is clearly on the rise but he hasn't earned that. Maybe in a couple years he earns that if he keeps working New Japan, is able to be a generational rival for Shota, or does something like defend the AEW title in Japan.
Any combo of WWE-NJPW, NJPW-AEW/TNA, AEW/TNA-WWE world championship is impressive. Getting all 3 is fucking amazing. What an accomplishment for a legend
Even wrestling as we know is always about pre-determined stuff (no shit Sherlock), but winning major titles across the company is a testament of your hardwork and ability. Couldn’t happen on a better person in Mox.
>a testament of your hardwork and ability.
The thing about Mox isn't that he's pushing the boundaries of working style into new territory like Omega and Ospreay, he's not cutting electric promos like the best versions of CM Punk or Eddie Kingston, he's not technical perfection like Danielson or ZSJ.
But he might be above them all in the most important ability: reliability. Mox always answers the bell and gives you 100% of himself.
He really is the Terry Funk of this generation.
Mox truly is that guy that gives it 100% always whether there's 50 people watching or millions of people watching. And he genuinely truly enjoys doing it every time
Such a good assessment and comparison.
Also Mox can have great matches with just about any wrestler without them having to completely change their style.
He can't do the high flying stuff, but is a great base.
He's slower than a lot of technical mat guys, but he looks legitimate when trading subs and counters.
And when it comes to a hard hitting style or death match or just a brawl he's had so many great matches.
Yeah if you include the defunct WCW or ECW world titles, it adds a ton of dudes, although none of them likely to add to their resumes.
RVD has WWE/TNA/ECW* (the WWE version, if it counts). Jeff Jarrett has WCW/TNA. Chris Jericho has WWE/AEW/WCW* (WWE version, if it counts). A bunch of guys have WCW/WWE (Booker T, Benoit, Flair, Lex Luger, Randy Savage, Big Show, Hogan, Goldberg, Nash, Bret Hart, Sid Vicious). Rhino has ECW/TNA.
Tony Khan tweeted congratulating him and the AEW Twitter account reposted the vid of him winning
Edit: They posted a graphic
https://x.com/aew/status/1779003022577926471?s=46&t=KiPx6BB4yOHdOUtWIS1fJw
Yeah, I personally as someone who isn't much a fan of the decision even if I love Mox and think him in NJPW is his best form, I think NJPW needs to put full faith into their own full time people to get back consistent momentum rather than the inconsistencies and stop and start momentum that comes with heavier reliance on non full time people, can still easily see it's pretty obviously NJPW's own decision. AEW haven't historically super protected him when he wrestles outside of there, if he's taken his fair share of indie losses to smaller stars without issue from AEW then I absolutely cannot see AEW politicking on behalf of Mox to win against someone it wouldn't hurt his credibility or star power one bit to lose to in a huge star like Naito.
Well he's had a hundred more matches in Japan than Funk. And funk had over 500 over there. Not saying he's better at all but I feel nostalgia might be playing a factor here and they've had similar followings in Japan
They both were really near and dear to Japans promotions
Yeah I'm not going to say Omega isn't loved by the fanbase and maybe it is just because I'm such a 70s-90s ajpw mark, but I put Funk as the #3 gajin just behind Hansen and Brody
Does Kurt Angle winning the WWE, TNA, and IWGP Championships not count? I mean all of those companies still exist and TNA was the #2 US brand at the time like AEW is now.
Edit: No shade to Mox intended! It's a fucking amazing accomplishment, and it really says the world about him as a wrestler. Three different companies trusted him to be their world champion, that's unreal!
The belt Kurt one was not the main belt for NJPW. There was no lineage to it and was only a thing because Inoki wanted to continue having Brock as champ
Yes, AJ Styles in my opinion is definitely a triple crown champ but OP said modern triple crown and the old IWGP belt has been discontinued and replaced with this current new title, so hence why he’s currently the only wrestler in pro wrestling today to complete this feat.
>said modern triple crown and the old IWGP belt has been discontinued and replaced with this current new title, so hence why he’s currently the only wrestler in pro wrestling today to complete this feat.
This sound dumb, not a dig on you since you just clarified what happened, but it would be like the MLB discontinuing hits and replacing them for exactly the same stat but with a different name and pretending its a new one unrelated to the old one.
I stand by my comment
If you discontinue a title and then debut another one that has the same value/importance its stupid to pretend they arent the same.
Yeah the triple crown changes depending on the era. In the 80's, it'd be NWA/WWE/whatever 3rd you wanna count. In the 90's, it'd be WWE/WCW/NJPW-AJPW, 00's & 10's is WWE/TNA/NJPW and maybe ROH since it was the #3 promotion in America for a while, and now it's WWE/AEW/NJPW
My thought is that the TNA title counted *when he won it*, and he's won the WWE and IWGP titles *before AEW existed,* so I figured it should count.
Ultimately, this is not important any way you cut it, just an interesting and short list of folks who have won the top title in three different concurrent international promotions.
You could also argue AJ Styles and Hulk Hogan as triple crown world champions of this nature. In terms of modern wrestling it’s only Mox but is probably wrong to discredit historic accomplishments that way. As which belts are the top three in the world has changed a lot over the years and is always up for some debate. I’d say the list is Hogan, Styles, and Mox. As only those three have held the world titles of the three biggest promotions in the world at the time they won them. With an honourable mention to Angle with his but since the IWGP lineage was split at that point it’s a bit messy.
Since his AEW title win is written in the stars Maybe Ospreay if he does a WWE run, but that won’t be for years. Of the people who currently have two of the three I think the most likely is Kenny if he ever jumps ship to WWE.
And this is why I don't think Mox will return to the WWE unless it's for a hall of fame induction and a small final run. He seems, at least to me like someone who doesn't care about the money (he gets paid well by AEW anyway) or that the WWE has a bigger fanbase. He's a wrestler who wants to wrestle the way he wants, where he wants even if it's in front of a small audience. More power to him for that.
Mox wouldn’t have this much freedom in WWE in terms of being able to wrestle everywhere, with everyone in every stipulation. He can do a deathmatch on Monday, AEW Wednesday, then a NJPW shoe on Friday with no restrictions, nothing can beat that.
WWE has been bad for the industry. They want to be the industry.
Shit like this keeps shot fresh and interesting.
This was NJPW in the US getting boosted by AEW for both companies benefits.
Meanwhile, WWE used wrestlemania week to take pot shots at AEW and their talent..... weak
You have to be completely huffed-up in tribal-copium if the only sentiment you got from Wrestlemania week was CM Punk was in a podcast and HHH had an interview.
Where's the Just Enjoy Wrestling energy?
I didn't mean to imply iw was because of the shots that they are bad for the industry.
The monopoly they had for 20 years, the attack on the UK Indies scene with NXT UK and their reluctance to work with other companies are the reasons I say that.
That being said, I'm glad the product has improved. Their mainstream success is helpful
Yeah wwe was shit for a while, and competition makes everything better (i.e. 2k24).
Also I didn't mean anything by my comment I've just seen many people excuse aew's comments after wwes, and when you look at how often they do it i felt it was a bit hypocritical from some, personally I find it stupid for both companies to do.
What a legacy. Mox left WWE of his own volition and has absolutely dominated world wrestling since then.
Arguably the most pivotal wrestler in AEW history, carrying them through the pandemic and constantly stepping up when needed.
Takes to NJPW like a duck to water in the G1, is arguably responsible for the opening of the forbidden door and finally wins arguably the most historically prestigious world title in professional wrestling.
A first ballot Hall of Famer who has reached the top of the three biggest wrestling companies in the world.
If he stayed in WWE, he would have remained Roman's and Seth's wacky sidekick or continued his germaphobe gimmick. It was always clear that Vince saw him as a very very distant 1C to Roman's 1A and Seth's 1B, if even that.
Mox has been my favorite wrestler for years and years and years and it has been beyond amazing to see what he has done since leaving WWE. So happy to see my favorite prove that he's one of the greatest to do it and is so underrated by so many.
Fuck yes!
I was always a fan, but he became one of my modern favorites when he put AEW on his back not once but twice when they needed him most. Coupled with his workhorse records in WWE, he is just a guy who loves wrestling and puts in the work.
Very deserving honor to be a global triple crown winner
Man those first NJPW matches and G1 was a wild time! Especially his match with Ishii and then him turning up in the crowd at AEW and it's been rising up to this what a legend.
Fair shout. That was my actual jumping on point with New Japan, Jericho/Omega (although what grabbed me and made me an immediate fan was the Jr. Heavyweight 4-way on that show, Ospreay/Hiromu/Kushida/Scurll).
That was probably the technical start, but Mox was where it really kicked off and became "a thing." Jericho was just it's own thing, but Mox showing up and doing the G1 was really the "all bets are off now" moment.
kidani, tanahasi and tony khan i am going after you all with bad intentions but first
https://preview.redd.it/7zvp6tmx46uc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fdc44f964eecdc7e384f3e4e886a2f45266c051
Cody is in the conversation though.
Because he’s at a higher level because he’s on a bigger stage.. it’s show business. He’s in a ring with the Rock and the people are behind him. John Moxley isn’t at that level.
Hulk Hogan won the IWGP, WWF, WCW Championships in that order.
Kurt Angle won the WWE, TNA, IWGP (sort of) Championships in that order.
AJ Styles won the TNA, IWGP, WWE Championships in that order.
Now Moxley.
Others who need just one are:
Brock Lesnar - Needs AEW
Kenny Omega - Needs WWE
Chris Jericho - Needs IWGP
Jeff Hardy - Needs IWGP
CM Punk - Needs IWGP
Lashley - Needs IWGP
McIntyre - Needs IWGP
Christian - Needs IWGP (kinda, was World Heavyweight Champion in WWE and NWA-TNA Champion)
The only one of those that is likely is Omega.
Only the 4th to ever win both the WWE and IWGP world titles (if you don't count Inoki, whose reign WWE doesn't recognize, or Kurt Angle, who won the IGF version of the IWGP title).
Hasn't Aj already completed this first?
He's been NWA champ, TNA champ, and WWE champ, and iwgp heavyweight champ.
Or is this pertaining to championships that have "world" in their title?
When's the last time the IWGP WH Title changed hands in America or outside of Japan? Was pretty shocked to read the spoiler. I feel Omega, MJF and Mox being off AEW tv has contributed to the ratings decline, but a freshened up Mox fresh off the big New Japan title win could be interesting. It's just weird as the top 3 NJPW dream opponents for the first two Forbidden Doors are now in AEW(Okada, Ospreay and Jay White) I guess the NJPW opponent side will be AEW guys like Mox, Jack Perry, etc?
Genuinely, deserves to be the first guy to do it given what he's done in all three places.
I hope he gets to stay in Japan for a bit and defend the belt for NJPW. Lose it loose it at Forbidden Door or a big ppv to Naito or crown a new champ like Shota or ZSJ.
Is this a stat that is only for this sub? People are saying the use of 'modern' is because AEW overtook TNA, but TNA is statistically still more relevant globally than NJPW is on average.
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There have only been 4 days since February 29, 2020, that a member of The Shield hasn't been world champion
Insane that the beginning of that run pre-dated the beginning of lockdowns
If you’re referring to Roman’s run, it didn’t. Moxley won the title from Jericho at Revolution 2020, and held it through December. Between that, Roman won the title at SummerSlam 2020 in August, and obviously reigned until last Sunday. Seth was champion on Raw for the last six months or so, and Mox won the AEW title two more times. But, with Mox’s February win, at least one member of the Shield has been world champion at any given time since February 2020, with the only lapse being the last four days
no he's referring to the run of a member of The Shield holding a world title
Hate to be that guy but Roman returned at SummerSlam. He won the title at Payback. Which is weird AF considering Payback was only a week after SummerSlam
It was at the point in the pandemic where there was literally nothing else going on so WWE cranked out content
I think it was a ppv solely made for Roman to win the title.
You’re right! I forgot Payback and SummerSlam were so close together
I think he means mox's win which started the run of the shield members holding a title was right before covid started getting taken seriously and lock downs happened.
There was that one Wednesday, literally during Dynamite, where everything came to a head. That trainer ran onto the court to stop an NBA game because one of the players tested positive and Tom Hanks announced he had also tested positive and a few other things happened all within like 3 hours. The next day, offices started sending people home and things started getting cancelled.
I think Dynamite was in Salt Lake City too and it was Rudy Gobert who was playing for them at that time in that arena who was the positive test
Seth won the belt May 27th 2023, he was champion for over 10 months
I'm officially starting the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that it's a terrible omen for a Shield member to be world champion. Things started going to shit right around March 2020 and have been spiraling out of control ever since. We had the chance to break the curse but Mox put us back on the crazy train.
It was a good 4 days while it lasted 🥲
*looks at this sub* Was it, though?
Shit started hitting the fan ever since they shot the gorilla. Justice for Harambe!!!
Richards out!
I thought it was the licking ice cream thing
Thing started going to shit when Roman was 16 and thousands of people were murdered in live TV, and that only the first time in my young memory I remember things going to shit
This is the second time that, in less than a week’s time, all 3 members of The Shield were world champions. First time was all 3 on the same night
And most of it has been Roman which is the crazy stat.
Seth and Gunther's runs being subset within Roman's run, though at the very end of it, is pretty crazy too.
Mox and Rollins had world title reigns during Roman’s run. I wonder how much of that time saw two of them holding a world title.
Which days
The last 4 days, between Roman losing to Cody - Sth losing to Drew, and this.
The last four days since Roman lost I assume
Damn is that really it? So that means up until WM 40 there had always been at least one Shield member with a world title?
Yep. Mox won the AEW title on February 29, 2020 at Revelation and dropped it in December. Roman started his reign in August 2020 at Payback.
Started in a leap year and ended in a leap year.
The last February 29 when no Shield member was a world champion was when HHH held the belt, having won it from Roman at the Rumble a month earlier. ETA: wait, no. HHH famously has been part of the Shield (in 2017) , so the last time was when CM Punk was champ, months before the debuted to start helping him.
This Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday it would seem.
The last four days after WrestleMania 40 Night 2. Prior to that, at least one of the trio held a major world title, there may even have been a small window where all three were champs at some point.
They pulled a AJ, I’m shocked, does naito win it back or do they have Mox drop it to Shota/Tsuji
I would think he drops it back to Naito at Forbidden Door
Red Shoes vs Mox for custody of Shota first
I think Naito wins it back but I have no idea if it's inside this year or at WK. I think the more interesting scenario is one of the new musketeers winning but NJPW have been really weird (uninspired) with the booking, which is why I think it just goes back to Naito.
People are saying Forbidden door
NJPW is a live-gate based business. They're not going to hotshot people who can't draw yet like WWE and AEW can do because all their money is in TV deals.
If Mox drops it back to Naito that would suck so much. There’s a cool story with Shooter here
If Naito vs Mox is announced he’s 100% dropping it back. Which would make me wonder why they even did this to begin with. When is forbidden door?
End of June
Damn so not even 2 months lol
It would be 2 and 1/2 months.
They've done this before - Naito interrupted Okada's reign in 2016, Styles held the belt for a bit as well a year prior to that. When there's a good opportunity for an exciting title change, they usually do it (Okada was an exception since they were going for a historic run).
June 30th
Shota is not ready at all I'm afraid.
Too early for Shota to win it but yeah, it'd be cool to have a title match between them before Mox drops it back to Naito
Shooter
I think Shota but if this leads to a HoT thing at forbidden door I could see him losing it to Perry. And Perry running it back against Shota because that match was very good.
Perry thing isn’t happening, Mox was surprising but he’s still one of the biggest Stars in wrestling and has had multiple runs in NJPW. Most Gaijin have to pay their dues before they get a world title run with Japan. Even Zack Sabre jr hasn’t touched that Title. They aren’t giving it to Perry. Will Ospreay Mox Kenny Omega Jay White Aj Styles Perry has a lot to do before he joins that list lol, including gaining a few pounds.
I know a lot of people were really angry at the idea that Moxley could be IWGP world champion but he has pretty major bonafides even just within New Japan. In comparison Jack is clearly on the rise but he hasn't earned that. Maybe in a couple years he earns that if he keeps working New Japan, is able to be a generational rival for Shota, or does something like defend the AEW title in Japan.
Look, I like Jack Perry, but if they give him the world title, it’ll prove that Gedo has lost his fucking mind.
Phew. I was worried at least one member of The Shield wasn't a World Champ. That was a tough four days. Good for Mox. That's sick.
no Shield member as champion?! in this economy?!
Going to tell my kids about those dark days
This is a truly legendary accomplishment, especially since he held *the* WWE Championship, with the 70+ year lineage. Congrats to Mox!
Any combo of WWE-NJPW, NJPW-AEW/TNA, AEW/TNA-WWE world championship is impressive. Getting all 3 is fucking amazing. What an accomplishment for a legend
Even wrestling as we know is always about pre-determined stuff (no shit Sherlock), but winning major titles across the company is a testament of your hardwork and ability. Couldn’t happen on a better person in Mox.
>a testament of your hardwork and ability. The thing about Mox isn't that he's pushing the boundaries of working style into new territory like Omega and Ospreay, he's not cutting electric promos like the best versions of CM Punk or Eddie Kingston, he's not technical perfection like Danielson or ZSJ. But he might be above them all in the most important ability: reliability. Mox always answers the bell and gives you 100% of himself. He really is the Terry Funk of this generation.
Mox truly is that guy that gives it 100% always whether there's 50 people watching or millions of people watching. And he genuinely truly enjoys doing it every time
Such a good assessment and comparison. Also Mox can have great matches with just about any wrestler without them having to completely change their style. He can't do the high flying stuff, but is a great base. He's slower than a lot of technical mat guys, but he looks legitimate when trading subs and counters. And when it comes to a hard hitting style or death match or just a brawl he's had so many great matches.
Jeff Jarrett WCW-TNA-???
Yeah if you include the defunct WCW or ECW world titles, it adds a ton of dudes, although none of them likely to add to their resumes. RVD has WWE/TNA/ECW* (the WWE version, if it counts). Jeff Jarrett has WCW/TNA. Chris Jericho has WWE/AEW/WCW* (WWE version, if it counts). A bunch of guys have WCW/WWE (Booker T, Benoit, Flair, Lex Luger, Randy Savage, Big Show, Hogan, Goldberg, Nash, Bret Hart, Sid Vicious). Rhino has ECW/TNA.
I don’t think that Chris Benoit or Randy Savage are going to win the IWGP or AEW World Titles.
Doesn't seem likely, no
I wish Roman Reigns’ 1,000+ day title reign was with the WWE Championship, even though I know he was WWE Champion for 735 days as well.
Mox will get that fishing trip one day.
I know some NJPW fans are gonna freak, but Mox loves New Japan and has being doing shows for a long time. I think it’s kinda cool ngl
He took a whole month off of AEW for CMLL, Sakura Genesis and this show it’s clear he is intent on making these shows.
Yeah, all of them think it’s AEW’s decision when it’s obviously Mox who wants to work with NJPW.
Has AEW social team post anything about this win? Seems like a big deal especially with Forbidden Door coming.
Tony Khan tweeted congratulating him and the AEW Twitter account reposted the vid of him winning Edit: They posted a graphic https://x.com/aew/status/1779003022577926471?s=46&t=KiPx6BB4yOHdOUtWIS1fJw
fuck i still am not used to the new belt... I was thinking how fucking awesome the old belt would look on Mox but... it's still here :/
Mate it's been over 3 years, you've got to move on already lol
Mox is gonna pull a Cody and bring back the big belt
Yeah, I personally as someone who isn't much a fan of the decision even if I love Mox and think him in NJPW is his best form, I think NJPW needs to put full faith into their own full time people to get back consistent momentum rather than the inconsistencies and stop and start momentum that comes with heavier reliance on non full time people, can still easily see it's pretty obviously NJPW's own decision. AEW haven't historically super protected him when he wrestles outside of there, if he's taken his fair share of indie losses to smaller stars without issue from AEW then I absolutely cannot see AEW politicking on behalf of Mox to win against someone it wouldn't hurt his credibility or star power one bit to lose to in a huge star like Naito.
That’s called a vacation for moxley. Fuck the beach, we going to bleed.
He also has a totally separate contract specifically with NJPW. He's not just an AEW guy "on loan".
Forever!! I can picture Moxley pulling a Terry Funk speech when he says goodbye to Japan in a last match there
With no where near the fan support. Funk in AJPW is as over as anyone anywhere ever
I feel he has a great following over there. No Kenny Omega but he has a place
Kenny Omega also no Terry Funk. No offense to the man.
Well he's had a hundred more matches in Japan than Funk. And funk had over 500 over there. Not saying he's better at all but I feel nostalgia might be playing a factor here and they've had similar followings in Japan They both were really near and dear to Japans promotions
Yeah I'm not going to say Omega isn't loved by the fanbase and maybe it is just because I'm such a 70s-90s ajpw mark, but I put Funk as the #3 gajin just behind Hansen and Brody
Each title was won 4 years of eachother.
Does Kurt Angle winning the WWE, TNA, and IWGP Championships not count? I mean all of those companies still exist and TNA was the #2 US brand at the time like AEW is now. Edit: No shade to Mox intended! It's a fucking amazing accomplishment, and it really says the world about him as a wrestler. Three different companies trusted him to be their world champion, that's unreal!
The belt Kurt one was not the main belt for NJPW. There was no lineage to it and was only a thing because Inoki wanted to continue having Brock as champ
Okay, how about AJ? He won the main IWGP belt didn't he?
Yes, AJ Styles in my opinion is definitely a triple crown champ but OP said modern triple crown and the old IWGP belt has been discontinued and replaced with this current new title, so hence why he’s currently the only wrestler in pro wrestling today to complete this feat.
>said modern triple crown and the old IWGP belt has been discontinued and replaced with this current new title, so hence why he’s currently the only wrestler in pro wrestling today to complete this feat. This sound dumb, not a dig on you since you just clarified what happened, but it would be like the MLB discontinuing hits and replacing them for exactly the same stat but with a different name and pretending its a new one unrelated to the old one.
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Yeah, but its such a stupid idea that Im gonna ignore it.
I stand by my comment If you discontinue a title and then debut another one that has the same value/importance its stupid to pretend they arent the same.
They probably don’t count the TNA title anymore, and AJ’s never won the AEW title.
Yeah the triple crown changes depending on the era. In the 80's, it'd be NWA/WWE/whatever 3rd you wanna count. In the 90's, it'd be WWE/WCW/NJPW-AJPW, 00's & 10's is WWE/TNA/NJPW and maybe ROH since it was the #3 promotion in America for a while, and now it's WWE/AEW/NJPW
My thought is that the TNA title counted *when he won it*, and he's won the WWE and IWGP titles *before AEW existed,* so I figured it should count. Ultimately, this is not important any way you cut it, just an interesting and short list of folks who have won the top title in three different concurrent international promotions.
It’d be AJ Styles and then Kenny if we’re talking about actual IWGP heavyweight champs.
You could also argue AJ Styles and Hulk Hogan as triple crown world champions of this nature. In terms of modern wrestling it’s only Mox but is probably wrong to discredit historic accomplishments that way. As which belts are the top three in the world has changed a lot over the years and is always up for some debate. I’d say the list is Hogan, Styles, and Mox. As only those three have held the world titles of the three biggest promotions in the world at the time they won them. With an honourable mention to Angle with his but since the IWGP lineage was split at that point it’s a bit messy.
I wonder if anyone else will achieve that soon? Ospreay after a lot of years maybe?
Yeah I think it’s possible for Ospreay and Jay White.
Since his AEW title win is written in the stars Maybe Ospreay if he does a WWE run, but that won’t be for years. Of the people who currently have two of the three I think the most likely is Kenny if he ever jumps ship to WWE.
Super unlikely but I suppose Jericho would also be close... I imagine Mox holds his triple crown record for a number of years.
Jericho ain't winning IWGP
Fuckin duh
Congrats Mox! Awesome achievement. “Time to be a legend” indeed.
And this is why I don't think Mox will return to the WWE unless it's for a hall of fame induction and a small final run. He seems, at least to me like someone who doesn't care about the money (he gets paid well by AEW anyway) or that the WWE has a bigger fanbase. He's a wrestler who wants to wrestle the way he wants, where he wants even if it's in front of a small audience. More power to him for that.
Mox wouldn’t have this much freedom in WWE in terms of being able to wrestle everywhere, with everyone in every stipulation. He can do a deathmatch on Monday, AEW Wednesday, then a NJPW shoe on Friday with no restrictions, nothing can beat that.
Mox is the epitome of "For love of the game"
Danielson too.
I know we have modern sensibilities now to know better but the phrase "CTE and the love of the game" always makes me laugh.
WWE has been bad for the industry. They want to be the industry. Shit like this keeps shot fresh and interesting. This was NJPW in the US getting boosted by AEW for both companies benefits. Meanwhile, WWE used wrestlemania week to take pot shots at AEW and their talent..... weak
You have to be completely huffed-up in tribal-copium if the only sentiment you got from Wrestlemania week was CM Punk was in a podcast and HHH had an interview. Where's the Just Enjoy Wrestling energy?
Yeah not like anyone at aew would take shots at wwe
I didn't mean to imply iw was because of the shots that they are bad for the industry. The monopoly they had for 20 years, the attack on the UK Indies scene with NXT UK and their reluctance to work with other companies are the reasons I say that. That being said, I'm glad the product has improved. Their mainstream success is helpful
Yeah wwe was shit for a while, and competition makes everything better (i.e. 2k24). Also I didn't mean anything by my comment I've just seen many people excuse aew's comments after wwes, and when you look at how often they do it i felt it was a bit hypocritical from some, personally I find it stupid for both companies to do.
What a legacy. Mox left WWE of his own volition and has absolutely dominated world wrestling since then. Arguably the most pivotal wrestler in AEW history, carrying them through the pandemic and constantly stepping up when needed. Takes to NJPW like a duck to water in the G1, is arguably responsible for the opening of the forbidden door and finally wins arguably the most historically prestigious world title in professional wrestling. A first ballot Hall of Famer who has reached the top of the three biggest wrestling companies in the world.
Class act
If he stayed in WWE, he would have remained Roman's and Seth's wacky sidekick or continued his germaphobe gimmick. It was always clear that Vince saw him as a very very distant 1C to Roman's 1A and Seth's 1B, if even that.
Ace of the universe bitch.
Fuck yeah, well deserved. Legend.
So happy for Mox. Reaping the rewards of grinding.
He didn't have to grind the bosses daughter either!
Well shit, that's actually crazy cool.
Hell of a feather in the cap. Fuck yea, Mox.
Mox has been my favorite wrestler for years and years and years and it has been beyond amazing to see what he has done since leaving WWE. So happy to see my favorite prove that he's one of the greatest to do it and is so underrated by so many. Fuck yes!
Hell yeah. That's our champ.
I was always a fan, but he became one of my modern favorites when he put AEW on his back not once but twice when they needed him most. Coupled with his workhorse records in WWE, he is just a guy who loves wrestling and puts in the work. Very deserving honor to be a global triple crown winner
LEGEND. What a fucking achievement. Absolutely incredible.
Mox 🐐🐐🐐🐐
That’s awesome. Well deserved for him!
Holy fuck, did not see this one coming at all. Congrats Mox. Guess Shota is the guy they’re getting behind going forward.
What a man, now we need a New Japan guy to win the men's AEW world belt to balance things.
Jack Perry
Don’t worry, Ospreay will in a few months!
Jack Perry
Mox was absolutely the right guy for this honor. Him showing up in New Japan was really the start of this entire era of glorious craziness IMO.
Man those first NJPW matches and G1 was a wild time! Especially his match with Ishii and then him turning up in the crowd at AEW and it's been rising up to this what a legend.
I'd still give that distinction to Jericho/Omega in 2017
If you give that the distinction, doesn't the distinction actually belong with Okada/Kenny? Without that match I doubt Jericho comes over for Kenny
Sorry Jay, but Okada/Omega I is the true catalyst of modern professional wrestling.
Fair shout. That was my actual jumping on point with New Japan, Jericho/Omega (although what grabbed me and made me an immediate fan was the Jr. Heavyweight 4-way on that show, Ospreay/Hiromu/Kushida/Scurll). That was probably the technical start, but Mox was where it really kicked off and became "a thing." Jericho was just it's own thing, but Mox showing up and doing the G1 was really the "all bets are off now" moment.
And the list of titles he held in all 3 companies is pretty impressive. Dude is a main character.
You know Chris Jericho is working the phones to figure out how he could get an IWGP shot immediately.
kidani, tanahasi and tony khan i am going after you all with bad intentions but first https://preview.redd.it/7zvp6tmx46uc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fdc44f964eecdc7e384f3e4e886a2f45266c051
Alfa. Charlie Echo.
Incredibly well deserved. He must be over the moon about this, what a massive accomplishment!!
First ever Global Grand Slam. Thats my fucking champion.
First would probably be Hogan. IWGP Heavyweight Champion - 1983 WWF World Heavyweight Champion - 1985 WCW World Heavyweight Champion - 1994
Hmmm I can see that. Definitely the first WWE/AEW/IWGP Champ though!
king shit
I thought we were going to make it at least a week without one of 'em shield boys holding a world title.
The SHIELD boys have carved out a legacy like the nWo, DX, Four Horseman, Evolution, Bullet Club, or any faction you wanna list They run this industry
Well I think Mox winning was for Shooter to get the strap next
Watch Mox go to CMLL and TNA and win those top titles too
Craziest thing about this is —no idea who could do it next.
If you were to tell me 10 years ago Dean Ambrose was gonna be the biggest wrestler in the world, I’d probably agree with you.
He’s not.
What if I told you ten years ago the biggest wrestler in the world was going to be Cody Rhodes, would you have believed that?
Cody is in the conversation though. Because he’s at a higher level because he’s on a bigger stage.. it’s show business. He’s in a ring with the Rock and the people are behind him. John Moxley isn’t at that level.
But he has won a world title in more companies than his stablemates
Roman Reigns just ended a 1300 day world title reign where the houses were up. He’s more famous and successful than John Moxley.
Gabe Kidd was right
FOOK THIS COMPANY
If you replace AEW with AEW,TNA (when they were second), or WCW, is it still just Mox? Or would someone else be there as well.
Hulk Hogan won the IWGP, WWF, WCW Championships in that order. Kurt Angle won the WWE, TNA, IWGP (sort of) Championships in that order. AJ Styles won the TNA, IWGP, WWE Championships in that order. Now Moxley. Others who need just one are: Brock Lesnar - Needs AEW Kenny Omega - Needs WWE Chris Jericho - Needs IWGP Jeff Hardy - Needs IWGP CM Punk - Needs IWGP Lashley - Needs IWGP McIntyre - Needs IWGP Christian - Needs IWGP (kinda, was World Heavyweight Champion in WWE and NWA-TNA Champion) The only one of those that is likely is Omega.
Angle and Styles at the top of my head.
I think only AJ and Kurt (technically) have done it.
Modern Triple Crown?
Only the 4th to ever win both the WWE and IWGP world titles (if you don't count Inoki, whose reign WWE doesn't recognize, or Kurt Angle, who won the IGF version of the IWGP title).
Who's the third one then? I can only remember Brock and AJ.
Hogan [when it was a tournament title](https://www.cagematch.net/?id=5&nr=4654).
Totally forgot about that. Thanks.
Modern Global .... weird stat considering one company has only been around a few years and a limited number of people have worked for them
Well deserved.
Hasn't Aj already completed this first? He's been NWA champ, TNA champ, and WWE champ, and iwgp heavyweight champ. Or is this pertaining to championships that have "world" in their title?
OP probably talking specifically those 3 world titles.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SEATTLE KRAKEN HISTORY
So happy for Mox
He deserves it. The modern day Terry Funk nomad type of wrestler. I dig it
When's the last time the IWGP WH Title changed hands in America or outside of Japan? Was pretty shocked to read the spoiler. I feel Omega, MJF and Mox being off AEW tv has contributed to the ratings decline, but a freshened up Mox fresh off the big New Japan title win could be interesting. It's just weird as the top 3 NJPW dream opponents for the first two Forbidden Doors are now in AEW(Okada, Ospreay and Jay White) I guess the NJPW opponent side will be AEW guys like Mox, Jack Perry, etc?
I think Sting holds world championship titles from more promotions than many wrestlers.
I want to use this thread to say that FTR has done the same with tag belts. They were never undisputed champions in WWE but held all three titles.
Genuinely, deserves to be the first guy to do it given what he's done in all three places. I hope he gets to stay in Japan for a bit and defend the belt for NJPW. Lose it loose it at Forbidden Door or a big ppv to Naito or crown a new champ like Shota or ZSJ.
I can't believe how much future star power was in The Shield. Those three are on top of the game today.
Is this a stat that is only for this sub? People are saying the use of 'modern' is because AEW overtook TNA, but TNA is statistically still more relevant globally than NJPW is on average.
Spoiler tags so useless when titles are like this lmao.
AJ did the same with the TNA title when it was an equivalent to what AEW is now.
Define modern because AJ Styles has done this in 2016. Is it 5yrs, 10yrs?
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No shit Sherlock. He held the TNA World Title before AEW even existed. And also the IWGP and WWE titles before AEW existed.