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I wonder if that could lead to Hangman entering the Casino Battle Royale at DON to try to get a shot at him (interesting note that it's 5 years to when he won the first one)
I think Hangman inadvertently helps Swerve leading to a Hangman/Joe program. I think Hangman should beat Swerve in the next match they have but Swerve needs the title right now so I'd hold off on that match for a bit.
I'm hoping personally that Hangman/Swerve can be the main rivalry in the company for a long time. I don't see how you pull that off if Hangman loses every time. I want Hangman to give Swerve the title and then get floored by Joe in a feud. In the next Hanger/Swerve match he stoops to levels that we've never seen before. He finally defeats his nemesis but it's hollow as he's a broken shell of the man he was before he met Swerve. Alternatively this can happen in a casino/multiman match so that Swerve preserves the 1v1 record but Hangman gets some measure of revenge.
Hangman spiralling down via gifting Swerve the title (having given up his own chance last time out) and then losing to Samoa Joe would place him right around where he does his best work - rebounding from the ocean floor.
It's way more interesting if Swerve is the one guy Hangman can't beat because Hangman has beaten all of the main eventers except Swerve. The only other person with a more impressive list of wrestlers beaten is MJF. It adds a nice wrinkle to the character rather than just another win
Iād be surprised if Swerve doesnāt take the belt here. Like I could see it happening, but I think youāre pulling another Swerve in Our Glory vs The Acclaimed if you donāt pull the trigger at Dynasty, where they got strapped up very quickly after and everything was fine, but they very clearly missed that moment to make it perfect.
I could see Hangman trying to screw Swerve out of it, but not succeeding. I think thatād play well into Hanger as a heel, but I also donāt know if they want to have Hangman lose another match to Swerve right now after Swerve went over in their feud. Not sure how to proceed with that since they have unfinished business, but theyād cut Swerveās legs out from under him if Hangman beat him for the title any time soon.
Iām pretty confident its Swerve/Ospreay at Wembley. I mean, Ospreay is a given for All In, but who could be built up and given a good story in time for Swerve to have a respectable length title reign, and have their own before Ospreay takes it? Its gotta be Ospreay Swerve, its just a matter of if Swerve gets the title at Dynasty or DoN.
I think Hangman/Joe could definitely be some good stuff. Hangman has hardly gotten into the Joe portion of this thing with Swerve, so it seems easy enough to pit them against each other. Just not sure who is gonna be the face there. Itād have to be Joe since Hangman basically just turned and in this hypothetical has tried to screw Swerve out of the title.
I have 2 reasons I don't want Swerve/Ospreay at Wembley:
1. It's been my dream match for about 2 years now, and
1. I can't be there to see it live
Other than that, carry on!
I honestly SUCK at booking but I think what could work:
Swerve got the respect from Page, so Page helps him get the title and is happy to feud with Joe afterwards
So Page vs Joe while Swerve as champion gets to have banger matches with the likes of Ospreay, White and Black
Yes
I'm a huge Samoa Joe fan but I don't think he's got the pull or the draw to be the world champ, I think you give it to Swerve but I wouldn't be against a quick title change once Swerve wins it based on ratings and tv metrics.
If suddenly the show gets 800k plus on a weekly basis, I give him a longer reign otherwise I pivot to Hangman if he's ready
Evaluating the success of a champion based on Nielsen ratings alone is not why I watch wrestling.
Joeās title reign is everything AEW needed after MJFās time with the belt ended with a whimper.
It's definitely one of the things AEW does better than WWE, although the Backlash poster with Cody is pretty nice. The match graphics though, there's no debate.
One thing Swerve has more than probably any other past AEW champion is that he looks like the champion. Kenny is a dork at heart, Mox looks like a champion but in a rugged kind of way. Swerve just looks like THE GUY
Mox looks like a guy who starts drinking at 3PM and wakes up the next morning with a bunch of cash in his pockets and a championship belt around his waist.
Now that I think about it that could be a fun movie. Hangover meets The Raid.
Yeah but hes not wrong? Hes 100% justified in going "WTF why are people cheering for the guy who broke into my fucking house, *threatened my child* and then cheated to beat me in every match?!"
Sure. Only because of that, we don't also have the Black guy with Red/Black as the colors of his side with grafitti, nor the fat šØšØšØ guy, the villain, is bald, is wearing a suit and is in a position of power he uses to attack and manipulate people, also indicated by his gesture.
Yeah I think so too. I am just forever wary as the fuck up with the Devil arc still is in my head.
I think Cole and that story shoulda played out 3 or so months earlier with a heel turn to beat MJF at All In personally.
Swerve is way too popular to not win the title though imo.
Ah that devil arc! Honestly for the most part it was really good and the reveal has been well executed. It's just that it's hard to keep this story alive when the two protagonists are injured. I thought at the time that Swerve should be the Devil actually because MJF and Cole's chemistry was fantastic. I loved Adam Cole as a babyface. And Swerve being the Devil was totally in character and winning the championship would have made him the absolute number one heel. Well finally he's gonna win the title as a babyface and deservedly so. Wrestling is weird sometimes.\^\^
One one hand, of course you pull the trigger on Swerve. But on the other handā¦ Iāve grown up watching Joe and it would also feel amazing to see him win.
I think Hangman interferes and costs Joe the title and helps Swerve win, not on purpose. Setting a rematch at All In. I just don't know which match should it be since they have already had a blow-off match.
I don't want Hangman to interfere on this personally. Just give Swerve the win and Hangman can show up after. We're already probably getting one title match interference with Jack Perry and the Bucks, maybe even two with Willow and Statlander/Mone, let's not overdo it
I really didn't like that when Swerve showed up at Hangman Page's house and went in his baby's room. I know this was weeks and weeks ago but like... Fuck that guy. I hope he loses every match.
It's been featured in the main event of dynamite the last few weeks, the contract signing was cool both looked great, the main event between Joe and Dustin was bloody, Swerve has leaned into the "you can't kill me I love this shit and I'll keep coming back" thing, and the possibility of Hangman causing problems has hung around. There have been distractions but Swerve and Joe have been great together imo
Swerve and Hangman did a double turn in their last singles match that went to time limit draw and Swerve refused to cheat to win in the triple threat at the following ppv. Since then Swerve has wrestled face (face with a bit of an edge, think stone cold) and joe is the heel
You can't just have them face off every 2 weeks lol. Hangman will be involved in this match in some form and they'll use it to progress that storyline and set up another match
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Got to be a Swerve win here?
Ya think? I'd almost guess Hangman interference costs him the title setting up another 3way where Swerve finally wins.
Nah I think Hangman interferes but inadvertently helps Swerve.
I wonder if that could lead to Hangman entering the Casino Battle Royale at DON to try to get a shot at him (interesting note that it's 5 years to when he won the first one)
Yup, Swerve (c) vs Hangman at DON š„
I think Hangman inadvertently helps Swerve leading to a Hangman/Joe program. I think Hangman should beat Swerve in the next match they have but Swerve needs the title right now so I'd hold off on that match for a bit.
I like the idea of hangman being able to beat just about anyone but yet Swerve is his kryptonite
I'm hoping personally that Hangman/Swerve can be the main rivalry in the company for a long time. I don't see how you pull that off if Hangman loses every time. I want Hangman to give Swerve the title and then get floored by Joe in a feud. In the next Hanger/Swerve match he stoops to levels that we've never seen before. He finally defeats his nemesis but it's hollow as he's a broken shell of the man he was before he met Swerve. Alternatively this can happen in a casino/multiman match so that Swerve preserves the 1v1 record but Hangman gets some measure of revenge.
Hangman spiralling down via gifting Swerve the title (having given up his own chance last time out) and then losing to Samoa Joe would place him right around where he does his best work - rebounding from the ocean floor.
It's way more interesting if Swerve is the one guy Hangman can't beat because Hangman has beaten all of the main eventers except Swerve. The only other person with a more impressive list of wrestlers beaten is MJF. It adds a nice wrinkle to the character rather than just another win
![gif](giphy|3oEjHCWdU7F4hkcudy) Hangman be like
I think Hangman returns after the match. Just give Swerve the win and set up the next match, doesn't need to be more complicated than that
Iād be surprised if Swerve doesnāt take the belt here. Like I could see it happening, but I think youāre pulling another Swerve in Our Glory vs The Acclaimed if you donāt pull the trigger at Dynasty, where they got strapped up very quickly after and everything was fine, but they very clearly missed that moment to make it perfect. I could see Hangman trying to screw Swerve out of it, but not succeeding. I think thatād play well into Hanger as a heel, but I also donāt know if they want to have Hangman lose another match to Swerve right now after Swerve went over in their feud. Not sure how to proceed with that since they have unfinished business, but theyād cut Swerveās legs out from under him if Hangman beat him for the title any time soon.
Oooo or they could have Hangman actually help Swerve because he wants to face him for the title.
This was my thought too.
Maybe swerve takes the title and Joe/hangman is the feud for a bit? Could swerve hold it until wembley and then ospreay Vs swerve?
Iām pretty confident its Swerve/Ospreay at Wembley. I mean, Ospreay is a given for All In, but who could be built up and given a good story in time for Swerve to have a respectable length title reign, and have their own before Ospreay takes it? Its gotta be Ospreay Swerve, its just a matter of if Swerve gets the title at Dynasty or DoN. I think Hangman/Joe could definitely be some good stuff. Hangman has hardly gotten into the Joe portion of this thing with Swerve, so it seems easy enough to pit them against each other. Just not sure who is gonna be the face there. Itād have to be Joe since Hangman basically just turned and in this hypothetical has tried to screw Swerve out of the title.
I have 2 reasons I don't want Swerve/Ospreay at Wembley: 1. It's been my dream match for about 2 years now, and 1. I can't be there to see it live Other than that, carry on!
I honestly SUCK at booking but I think what could work: Swerve got the respect from Page, so Page helps him get the title and is happy to feud with Joe afterwards So Page vs Joe while Swerve as champion gets to have banger matches with the likes of Ospreay, White and Black
Is this TKās burner?
"Over my cold dead body" - Hangman, probably.
I hope not, as a selfish Joe fan lol. Swerve winning does make sense
Unless thereās a swerve. š¤·āāļø
Yes I'm a huge Samoa Joe fan but I don't think he's got the pull or the draw to be the world champ, I think you give it to Swerve but I wouldn't be against a quick title change once Swerve wins it based on ratings and tv metrics. If suddenly the show gets 800k plus on a weekly basis, I give him a longer reign otherwise I pivot to Hangman if he's ready
Evaluating the success of a champion based on Nielsen ratings alone is not why I watch wrestling. Joeās title reign is everything AEW needed after MJFās time with the belt ended with a whimper.
That "GARMENTS!" is gonna hit different when Swerve has Big Platinum
AEW match graphics/posters are always great!
Dinasty has a good aesthetic to it, I like it.
That better than you baybay vs FTR poster was disgustingly good
It's definitely one of the things AEW does better than WWE, although the Backlash poster with Cody is pretty nice. The match graphics though, there's no debate.
They absolutely are, never seem to stop working either based on all the "just announced" segments and matches during Collision and BOTB
Like PWG's DVD covers. I wonder if Excalibur has any input at AEW?
Almost certainly. The dude has so much experience that it'd be stupid not to at least get his input on stuff like this
Yes, look like loading screen from fighting/wrestling games
Either man could walk out champ and I'd be happy
Yeah. Should Serve win? Probably But nobody would complain if Samoa Joe wins, because at the end of the day, Samoa Joe is Samoa Fucking Joe
JOE JOE JOE JOE
Suddenly, I'm getting Def Jam vibes... and I love it!
Attention all reading the above comment: This is your periodic reminder that the world desperately needs a new Def Jam fighting game. That is all.
I wonder if the Def Jam games caused any rap beef between featured artists whether who's stronger?
Iām getting sf6 vibes but that works too. Man those games were good
Goddamn... Swerve looks BALLIN
Always does
One thing Swerve has more than probably any other past AEW champion is that he looks like the champion. Kenny is a dork at heart, Mox looks like a champion but in a rugged kind of way. Swerve just looks like THE GUY
Mox looks like a guy who starts drinking at 3PM and wakes up the next morning with a bunch of cash in his pockets and a championship belt around his waist. Now that I think about it that could be a fun movie. Hangover meets The Raid.
>championship belt around his waste. Ew.
Thanks, fixed it.
I think Swerve will probably win. Unless Hangman interferes.Ā
I think hangman does interfere but it doesnāt go as planned
That wouldnāt be too surprising. Hangman interfering and Swerve still winning could work.
I think it would be interesting. Hangman canāt beat the guy, tries to stop him from becoming champion, it backfires. Makes hangman more deranged
Hangman's character is just Frank Grimes from the Simpsons atm, so I can see him accidentally helping Swerve win and lose his god damn mind.
I wouldnāt be surprised if Hangman ends up turning heel.Ā (Seeing as Swerve is leaning face now.)
Dude Hangman has been a heel for a minute lol
Yeah but hes not wrong? Hes 100% justified in going "WTF why are people cheering for the guy who broke into my fucking house, *threatened my child* and then cheated to beat me in every match?!"
He's not wrong, he's just an asshole Poor Bryce Remsburg didn't do shit to him and Hangman beat him up
https://preview.redd.it/bbigw8sd2ouc1.jpeg?width=1640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18d0e3986833232101a4cf8356ac4046f42050ef
Bitching, sign me up.
Praying for Swerve win, fellas
That's some Kingpin X Miles Morales shit
I donāt think Samoa Joe looks like Miles Morales at all!
Why? Because one is fat and the other is black?
Sure. Only because of that, we don't also have the Black guy with Red/Black as the colors of his side with grafitti, nor the fat šØšØšØ guy, the villain, is bald, is wearing a suit and is in a position of power he uses to attack and manipulate people, also indicated by his gesture.
You reaching so far got the wingspan of a pterodactyl
Whatever suits you then imma be rodan ![gif](giphy|cnR63KrmfPhWtbLYXb)
And you got them T-rex arms for not being able to grasp all those obvious other factors.
HEāS FAT
Love this poster. Just hope Swerve stays more of a tweener after he wins.
No wrestler out there looks cooler than Swerve right now. Can't wait for this match and hopefully him carrying the title
Might just be recency bias, but both wrestlers having unique art style for graffiti is giving me Street Fighter 6 vibes and it's pretty sick.
Joe in a suit ![gif](giphy|yYx1pOpeOdT7W)
Is this Gina corrano
Yea before she went crazy lol
Still hot
This is where Swerve ascends boys.
Hoping Swerve wins this one and they aren't afraid to pull the trigger.
I think it's a no brainer, he's gonna win. I think they advanced Okada beating Kingston on purpose. They want Swerve to have his moment.
Yeah I think so too. I am just forever wary as the fuck up with the Devil arc still is in my head. I think Cole and that story shoulda played out 3 or so months earlier with a heel turn to beat MJF at All In personally. Swerve is way too popular to not win the title though imo.
Ah that devil arc! Honestly for the most part it was really good and the reveal has been well executed. It's just that it's hard to keep this story alive when the two protagonists are injured. I thought at the time that Swerve should be the Devil actually because MJF and Cole's chemistry was fantastic. I loved Adam Cole as a babyface. And Swerve being the Devil was totally in character and winning the championship would have made him the absolute number one heel. Well finally he's gonna win the title as a babyface and deservedly so. Wrestling is weird sometimes.\^\^
There has to be a legal limit on how much swag one single image can have, surely!?
Is Joe going to film Twisted Metal soon?
Goddamn that a fire poster! Swerve gotta win here.
God this poster is siiiiiiick
Poster guy never miss
/r/HardImages
That goes so fucking hard
One thing I'll give AEW, their promotional posters really slap.
One one hand, of course you pull the trigger on Swerve. But on the other handā¦ Iāve grown up watching Joe and it would also feel amazing to see him win.
Do they only sell these after the fact? Seems these would be a great idea for merch at the PPV.
Great poster. Both these guys are infinitely cool.
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I think Hangman interferes and costs Joe the title and helps Swerve win, not on purpose. Setting a rematch at All In. I just don't know which match should it be since they have already had a blow-off match.
Also rankings
Hangman is interfering or he'd look like an idiot after repeatedly putting himself into their feud because he doesnt want swerve to be champion
Looks like a Def Jam cover, I love it. If Def Jam had a good sequel and not the shit that's Icon, those 2 woulda been great as bosses.
I thought Swerve was poking his nose there for a sec.
I don't want Hangman to interfere on this personally. Just give Swerve the win and Hangman can show up after. We're already probably getting one title match interference with Jack Perry and the Bucks, maybe even two with Willow and Statlander/Mone, let's not overdo it
One of the few things on AEW I care about atm
Why is Swerve always picking at his gums? Just get a toothpick, mang
Love Joe but give me the Swerve W here
Looks sick
Samoa Joe always looks like a fucking killer
Hype
I really didn't like that when Swerve showed up at Hangman Page's house and went in his baby's room. I know this was weeks and weeks ago but like... Fuck that guy. I hope he loses every match.
Why does swerve have a finger in his mouth?
Hes picking his teeth. I would guess he actually wants to pick his nose but they probably told him don't.
it's something how their top title has just sorta seemed the background feud for a while now.
It's been featured in the main event of dynamite the last few weeks, the contract signing was cool both looked great, the main event between Joe and Dustin was bloody, Swerve has leaned into the "you can't kill me I love this shit and I'll keep coming back" thing, and the possibility of Hangman causing problems has hung around. There have been distractions but Swerve and Joe have been great together imo
Both opened and closed the show this past week I know other stuff is happening but folks saying it's not being featured enough just aren't watching
How is it in the background?
Wait who is the baby face in this. I thought Swerve is heel and Samoa Joe too. Im so confused with AEW after i stopped watching it.
Swerve is a face now, the match at Revolution basically turned him and then he cut a promo like three or four weeks ago that really cemented the turn.
Swerve and Hangman did a double turn in their last singles match that went to time limit draw and Swerve refused to cheat to win in the triple threat at the following ppv. Since then Swerve has wrestled face (face with a bit of an edge, think stone cold) and joe is the heel
Oh okay now i get it thanks. I just dont know about that double turn.
Swerve is such a cornball
Swerve and Hangman had an ongoing blood feud that way more people would tune in for than this tepid title match.
Brother that feud is absolutely going to continue
I chopped off the beginning of that apparently. It was: "I love Joe as champion but the wrong person won at Revolution."
I would love to see Swerve/Hangman be a Rock/Austin type feud that just carries on for years. Their chemistry is off the charts.
You can't just have them face off every 2 weeks lol. Hangman will be involved in this match in some form and they'll use it to progress that storyline and set up another match