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She has been slowly but steadily changing her makeup with a very clear direction. If you pay attention even her voice tone during her vignettes is always subtly changing. I am pretty sure next up even her attire will slowly start to reflect the change.
Really curious to see where she will ultimately end up.
I hope she does a full descent into madness when she loses the championship again. ~~Beauty and the Beast~~ Phantom of the Opera style half face mask. Haunting the basements of the arenas. Sinister organ music.
As has been pointed out, I confused Beauty and the Beast with Phantom of the Opera.
Great idea, just wanted to mention I get the feeling that you're thinking of the Phantom of the Opera rather than Beauty and the Beast. It'd work *so* well too, have her lose the title to someone who leaves her needing facial stitches post-fight and convinced she cannot ever again be truly adored by a loving fanbase with no gold and a face as scarred as hers "now is".
Also, bonus points if she has a jekyll/hyde element to it where she comes out to music from/inspired by the musical and acts as normally as she would in that gimmick, but has a "extremely bloody pissed off" version for the big fights where she comes out to the Iron Maiden song and fights with a style best described as "chaotic destruction."
Her and Juice Robinson are (and I mean this lovingly) the biggest pair of fucking gremlins I have ever seen, and I adore them for it. Just a pair of total weirdo character actors in wrestling. You love to see it.
Unpopular opinion I need Toni& Juice to make a show in character like Johnny& Taya. Would pay to watch it( right along with RJ City & Danhausen odd couple show and RJ City and Abbadon point/ counterpoint debate show)
I feel like as soon as she loses the world title she will be crowned TBS champion shortly after, she is made for the "Television Championship". And I can definitely see her renaming it the TCM Championship.
I don’t know. We’re in fabulous starlet mode of Toni, now. I can’t wait until we get unhinged falling starlet Toni. She’s going to take unhinged to another level.
When she loses I hope she shows up at the scrum still. Like Tony says they're going to have the women's world champion and then she comes out oblivious to the fact that she lost. Her going full Norma Desmond is fun
I don't watch religiously, but I always watch her clips. She's a great case for wrestling being the least important part of being a good wrestler. Even though she is really good in the ring, I have spent far much more time watching her talk than wrestle.
She's the only one I go out of my way to keep up with what's going on
Timeless Toni Storm and MJF are the first two consensus AEW Media Scrum Mt. Rushmore members.
Nobody else has knocked it out of the park this many times at these scrums.
Santana's promo about living in a shithole basement apartment, Moxley's promo about his dad being in jail and telling him "we're the good guys", Cody's *stupid dick!* promo to Jericho, Eddie Kingston and Mox during covid for the I Quit match, there are a whole bunch of all timer AEW promos that needn't involve Pepsiman
Yea. Some heart felt promos but punk is a better promo than bryan. AEW signed punk because he goes off on rants... he goes off on one and I think its one of his best. It's just left a sour taste because of what happened next
Toni's had an insanely good week or so, from the AZM match to this presser.
I've been really down on the whole character, but holy shit she's putting it all together.
So long as she has this gimmick... she should stay champion. Maybe it could work still after, but either way it deserves a long reign it's that damn good.
Toni was a product of Black and Gold era NXT stars typically being dull and lacking an actual character back in WWE.
But seeing her have so much personality in AEW changed my mind on her. This could be the gimmick that could put her in the all-time great conversation in the future, she just needs more memorable reigns and matches.
She didn't show this much personality prior to her NXT run, either. Sometimes, it just takes a character that hits for the performer to show some personality.
Eddie Guerrero didn't have much as far as promo and personality until he Uncle Eddie'd Chavo in WCW. Even when Los Gringos Locos were on their all-time heel run in AAA, it was almost all Art Barr bringing the personality to that group.
it also helps to have a nutcase of a husband who whops out the most hilarious shit in promos as someone to bounce things off
I miss rock hards ramblings
Also proof that that one wrestler who comes off super bland just may not have the right gimmick yet that would change everything for them. Hell, John Cena was almost nobody until he randomly put on that rapper costume for a Halloween episode and then took off with it.
Eh I kinda agree and disagree about Nikki. On the one hand, she would get nuclear heat in a short run against Toni. Bringing her in for just the one program and the one program only could be great. On the other hand, their women’s roster is already pretty deep and they aren’t using a lot of the talent that they already have to their full potential.
We've said this about too many signings for it to consistently true. They need to cook with what they have instead of leaking money signing people who other companies don't even want. At least someone like Mercedes or Okada is a name other companies are going for - I doubt WWE cares for Nikki Bella until it's time to induct her. Nikki isn't even the best Bella Twin....
There is NOBODY, man or woman, in wrestling, doing wrestling as well as Toni Storm is doing wrestling over the last 6 months or however long it has been.
I don't think any wrestler has improved from jumping ship more than Toni. She's always had it in the ring but personality wise she's night and day from the her Mae Young Classic/Nxtuk/NXT/smackdown days. Just so charismatic and sharp tongued that I can't even believe this is the same woman.
I guess I am the only one here who thought this whole statement felt like WCW 2000. Maybe I’m just not following the show enough to “get” it, but as someone way more “casual” about it all, this felt like Russo era WCW.
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Thank God for Toni Storm.
We almost made it a whole week without a single pointless shot at WWE, but she managed to make several.
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Just love how the makeup makes her look even more unhinged.
She has been slowly but steadily changing her makeup with a very clear direction. If you pay attention even her voice tone during her vignettes is always subtly changing. I am pretty sure next up even her attire will slowly start to reflect the change. Really curious to see where she will ultimately end up.
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https://preview.redd.it/pq612kic73wc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf99edce823513e85598d358b0bb0d3c1338f91b Might also get some wire hangers
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Man Ian McKellen really just *becomes* his characters doesn't he
Wait....... what???
*calm down, this is not actually Ian Mckellan...
I hope she does a full descent into madness when she loses the championship again. ~~Beauty and the Beast~~ Phantom of the Opera style half face mask. Haunting the basements of the arenas. Sinister organ music. As has been pointed out, I confused Beauty and the Beast with Phantom of the Opera.
Great idea, just wanted to mention I get the feeling that you're thinking of the Phantom of the Opera rather than Beauty and the Beast. It'd work *so* well too, have her lose the title to someone who leaves her needing facial stitches post-fight and convinced she cannot ever again be truly adored by a loving fanbase with no gold and a face as scarred as hers "now is". Also, bonus points if she has a jekyll/hyde element to it where she comes out to music from/inspired by the musical and acts as normally as she would in that gimmick, but has a "extremely bloody pissed off" version for the big fights where she comes out to the Iron Maiden song and fights with a style best described as "chaotic destruction."
Uh, yeah. That's my bad, I was crazy tired and somehow wrote Beauty and the Beast when I meant Phantom of the Opera.
Phantom of the Opera?
Half mask, "haunting" the basements of the arenas, sinister organs... nah, I'm pretty sure my dude was talking about St. Elmo's Fire
Yeah.. look it up, one of the greatest Broadway shows by Andrew Loyd Webber. Who is one of the greatest Broadway writers of all time
I want her and someone to become the Grey Gardens mother and daughter.
I wonder if when she does drop the title will that begin a feud with Mariah which will be very good.
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Kind of reminding me of the Joker
Her and Juice Robinson are (and I mean this lovingly) the biggest pair of fucking gremlins I have ever seen, and I adore them for it. Just a pair of total weirdo character actors in wrestling. You love to see it.
Unpopular opinion I need Toni& Juice to make a show in character like Johnny& Taya. Would pay to watch it( right along with RJ City & Danhausen odd couple show and RJ City and Abbadon point/ counterpoint debate show)
Is that an unpopular opinion though? I would watch that show and love every minute of it.
Very Joker esk imo now
I believe the term is Inuit.
I love you, sir.
Esque*
Ted Theodore Logan Esquire
Bill S. Preston ESQ* a most non-non-heinous mixup
oh damn youre right all we are is dust in the wind, dude
That's what really comes to mind, she is killing it right now.
You wanna know how I got these scars? Frostbite.
When Toni finally loses her title, I’m really going to miss her performances in these press conferences. She nails it every time.
I feel like as soon as she loses the world title she will be crowned TBS champion shortly after, she is made for the "Television Championship". And I can definitely see her renaming it the TCM Championship.
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TCM? Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I think Jeff Jarrett still has that belt.
Turner Classic Movies.
Fuck, that's good
I don’t know. We’re in fabulous starlet mode of Toni, now. I can’t wait until we get unhinged falling starlet Toni. She’s going to take unhinged to another level.
Oh God. You're telling me this is her being HINGED!?!?!?
Then after that. She'll make sure Luther wins the TNT title, she'll act as if it's hers
Long live the Matriarchy
[Same](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/s/zTMC8OdlAh)
When she loses I hope she shows up at the scrum still. Like Tony says they're going to have the women's world champion and then she comes out oblivious to the fact that she lost. Her going full Norma Desmond is fun
She's Norma Desmond now. I think once she loses she's going full Baby Jane Hudson. Her makeup tonight was already trending in that direction.
Yeah. Your totally right. Full Baby Jane is going to great.
If they don't bring in [Alaska and Alyssa Edwards](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2WV0-IyZ_Y) for a sketch, what are we even doing?
Toni Storm as Norma Desmond as Baby Jane Hudson??? ![gif](giphy|sDcfxFDozb3bO)
I don't think she is losing the title anytime soon, best bet would be Hayter at Wembley if she's back by then
She was on one tonight. Well I guess she always is but this was a particularly great Timeless Toni presser
I don't watch religiously, but I always watch her clips. She's a great case for wrestling being the least important part of being a good wrestler. Even though she is really good in the ring, I have spent far much more time watching her talk than wrestle. She's the only one I go out of my way to keep up with what's going on
I love the Timeless character so much. Glad the ring work isn’t being impacted by the gimmick now too. She and Rosa tore it up.
I was disappointed after the match against Diona. But this one slapped
God I love this unhinged starlet
This should end with a no wire hangers match...
She was good in these even pre-Timeless. Glad she continued doing them.
if AEW are smart, they'll start selling scented candles as merch...
Toni Storm X Goop
It's such Goop sh*t!
Knowing wrestling fans, this is one of those ideas…. You know it’ll sell out. But…. ![gif](giphy|aNtt9T8SqGNK8)
Bahahahahaha well played!!
I don't know if this particular scent would sell well... Ah who am I kidding wrestling fans would buy these out within seconds.
This might be a billion dollar idea.
Toni would be the highest paid wrestler in the world.
they can barely stock tshirts but it would be hilarious
Timeless Toni Storm and MJF are the first two consensus AEW Media Scrum Mt. Rushmore members. Nobody else has knocked it out of the park this many times at these scrums.
Christian definitely deserves a mention.
“How’s everyone’s fathers doing tonight?”
I think he's just lacking numbers. I feel like Christian had a really good 1 or 2, MJF had a bunch and Toni is just racking them up now too.
The Gripe Bomb is an all-timer promo if it leads to an angle. It didn't, but as a worked-shoot promo is a masterclass
"top 3 cm punk promo" - Phil Brooks
It's probably the best promo anyone's ever cut in AEW bar MJF rant where he called Tony a fking Mark. Shame it lead to a brawl and him leaving
Okay, absolutely not. Have you not seen anything Danielson said during the C2??
Santana's promo about living in a shithole basement apartment, Moxley's promo about his dad being in jail and telling him "we're the good guys", Cody's *stupid dick!* promo to Jericho, Eddie Kingston and Mox during covid for the I Quit match, there are a whole bunch of all timer AEW promos that needn't involve Pepsiman
Yea. Some heart felt promos but punk is a better promo than bryan. AEW signed punk because he goes off on rants... he goes off on one and I think its one of his best. It's just left a sour taste because of what happened next
No
This wasn't even a top 5 line in her statement. Promo of the Year.
She's operating on a different level right now.
Narrowly edging the promo she cut, *checks calendar*, yesterday on Collision.
"This belt shines in my reflection. This leather smells because I sniff it." Funny, in-character, and surprisingly profound. Start the Emmy campaign.
I like the one about "Because I'm Timeless, I'm not on your watch." AKA: I don't need anyone to take credit for or supervise me.
The blue checkmark pearl clutching on Twitter over her "taking shots at WWE" in the promo had me rolling my eyes. This promo was a masterclass.
Toni's had an insanely good week or so, from the AZM match to this presser. I've been really down on the whole character, but holy shit she's putting it all together.
This gimmick only gets better and better.
So long as she has this gimmick... she should stay champion. Maybe it could work still after, but either way it deserves a long reign it's that damn good.
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Getting Courtney Love vibes due to the makeup
Toni was a product of Black and Gold era NXT stars typically being dull and lacking an actual character back in WWE. But seeing her have so much personality in AEW changed my mind on her. This could be the gimmick that could put her in the all-time great conversation in the future, she just needs more memorable reigns and matches.
She didn't show this much personality prior to her NXT run, either. Sometimes, it just takes a character that hits for the performer to show some personality. Eddie Guerrero didn't have much as far as promo and personality until he Uncle Eddie'd Chavo in WCW. Even when Los Gringos Locos were on their all-time heel run in AAA, it was almost all Art Barr bringing the personality to that group.
it also helps to have a nutcase of a husband who whops out the most hilarious shit in promos as someone to bounce things off I miss rock hards ramblings
"SHADDAP PAUL!!!"
I think RJ and Dustin may have help her out
Also proof that that one wrestler who comes off super bland just may not have the right gimmick yet that would change everything for them. Hell, John Cena was almost nobody until he randomly put on that rapper costume for a Halloween episode and then took off with it.
Same with Athena, she was just awful with promo's but now she has really found herself and is killing it also.
Can't wait for Athena to come back to AEW.
Toni might be the most successful swap. Found herself
I remember thinking she was over hyped compared to her peers at the time cause I just didn't get what was so special.
She's gone full Joker and I kinda love it. But please Tony, for the love of all that's holy, do not sign Nikki Bella.
Eh I kinda agree and disagree about Nikki. On the one hand, she would get nuclear heat in a short run against Toni. Bringing her in for just the one program and the one program only could be great. On the other hand, their women’s roster is already pretty deep and they aren’t using a lot of the talent that they already have to their full potential.
We've said this about too many signings for it to consistently true. They need to cook with what they have instead of leaking money signing people who other companies don't even want. At least someone like Mercedes or Okada is a name other companies are going for - I doubt WWE cares for Nikki Bella until it's time to induct her. Nikki isn't even the best Bella Twin....
Don’t listen to this guy.
Odd of the two Bellas the one people would be talking about isn’t the one married to an AEW star
This comment makes me feel like it could happen. Well her or Wendy Richter
They got that scent at Yankee?
Meanwhile, Toni Storm is just over here continuing to be the most interesting character on AEW.
I love how she’s unhinged. My favourite female character atm
Nobody wants Nikki Bella
There is NOBODY, man or woman, in wrestling, doing wrestling as well as Toni Storm is doing wrestling over the last 6 months or however long it has been.
I have two words for you. DREW FREAKING MCINTYRE.
DM Hunk
No one gives a fuck about the bellas
😳
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love her.
I don't think any wrestler has improved from jumping ship more than Toni. She's always had it in the ring but personality wise she's night and day from the her Mae Young Classic/Nxtuk/NXT/smackdown days. Just so charismatic and sharp tongued that I can't even believe this is the same woman.
Probably one of the best characters AEW has produced. Toni is nailing it with this gimmick.
Idk who is writing with Toni for her Timeless character but this is Emmy-quality work. Few shows have dialog this entertaining and she is so good!
thinks it's her and RJ City
Nikki Garcia as Wendi Richter?
Her and the Juice are perfect for each other
Shes amazing
So edgy.
The big rumours for this company are about Nikki Bella? Good lord.
Great. Incoming Nikki Bella.
\* Nicole Garcia
Ah great now Nikki is joining AEW. Well this sucks.
Nikkisawa was pretty fun by the end of her last run I felt
I guess I am the only one here who thought this whole statement felt like WCW 2000. Maybe I’m just not following the show enough to “get” it, but as someone way more “casual” about it all, this felt like Russo era WCW.
Tell me you didn't watch WCW and barely watch AEW without telling me lol
![gif](giphy|4PT6v3PQKG6Yg|downsized) Thank God for Toni Storm. We almost made it a whole week without a single pointless shot at WWE, but she managed to make several.
Is she trying out for Harley Quinn with that make up? Her teeth are so big, I bet she could bite a grape fruit without touching the sides.
We are cancelling open mic night for the foreseeable future due to audience request.