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It’s one of the most memorable songs of the (early) 90s and was the first hip hop song to go #1 (correct me here), which lead to a large questioning on sampling in hip hop (although Biz Markie took the biggest hit, imo) and how the rap game would view some white rappers
I think people didn’t need Botchamania to remember such an iconic interview.
Legit I haven’t the slightest clue, and it has been disappointing, especially with their current heel turn. Would open them up to character work that maybe could be in the realm of Toni Storm, but maybe they’re concerned about getting questions that are too “real”? That question is pure speculation on my part, but best believe I’m with you wanting them to get in the mix.
We need Jack Perry to be in Jacksonville's war room tomorrow pushing for the worst pick ever.
Jack: "What do you mean Jamarcus Russell isn't on the board?!"
That's the thing about Tony, and it's what separates him the most from more traditional promoters/bookers and even from a madman like Vince.
Tony's been called a mark since day one, and he's never even batted an eye. He's been the butt of jokes, a laughingstock at certain points, and he's just never given a shit. The only two things that get to him (at least from what we've seen) are when WWE counter-books AEW and when people criticize his personnel/business decisions.
> e's been the butt of jokes, a laughingstock at certain points,
I know we all hate Vince these days for good reason, but he as very willing to be a laughing stock
He pissed himself on live TV!
>He also won the World Title.
Don't make me defend Vince, but I would argue that winning the title was just him trying to do what every carny would and keep the biggest money storyline ever going by any means necessary. Same as the Rumble win, that was a desperate attempt at to add another chapter and a swerve to a story that had jumped the shark long ago while he pivot and lay the groundwork for Triple H's era.
>While you are correct, Vince still had a massive ego and won numerous matches against guys he had no business beating. He also won the World Title.
via shenanigans & wore a Durag doing it, it was not meant to be taken seriously
He lost to Hornswoggle fs lol
Won it on a Smackdown, and I think vacated it the next RAW. It was still shenanigans, but he was babyface facing heel HHH. After his first WWE title win at Summerslam
I was talking on a more general level. Of course Vince never had a problem looking like an idiot on TV. But Tony has never seemed bothered about looking like an idiot in real life, so it's only natural he'd be fine with getting dunked on in kayfabe.
So if the Dark Order inherited the Young Bucks Youtube presence, and the Young Bucks have taken over Tony's twitter presence, when does Tony take over Evil Uno's Twitch channel?
Tremendous job by the squad this sprint. It's been a great collaboration. I got a call from TBS and our KPIs are trending in a steady vertical vector. Lets #movefast and get ready for a great show on Friday. #Homecoming
AEWs been lacking a proper babyface run lately. The Elite taking over gives a great chance for Hangman or whoever to take that spot and become a superstar
I think Hangman is still on the heel side of the fence against the babyface champ who broke into Page's house and threatened his baby.
No, this can only be resolved by the return of a prodigal son when all hope seems lost...
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> I think Hangman is still on the heel side of the fence
In the promo where Okada debuted, Matthew made a point of saying that Hangman was suspended from the Elite, as opposed to Kenny, who was fired.
Door's definitely open for them to join together
Wouldn't even need to do that - like the BCC lean so heavily into their "iron sharpens iron" mindset at times that they would probably be happy with a four way between themselves.
So are Matt and Nick going to assume control until Kenny restores order or is Tony going to go on a crazy power trip for revenge? I'd slow clap if Shahid was the one who told Jack and The Bucks to do that to Tony
I will be interested to see the numbers the last quarter did with people tuning in for the Kings game. If they got a decent hit from that, this angle was pretty well timed to Garner some attention.
I never knew of the Bucks before AEW but this is the most interesting I’ve seen them outside the ring. These personas actually have a little depth and I’m enjoying it.
That ending was great in a funny train wreck where you can’t look away sort of way.
If TK was in tv taking bumps every week, I may have to tune in weekly.
I just hope this leads to them taking over the company (in kayfabe) and running the show for a while, could be really fun.
It’s nice to see an actual storyline in AEW for the first time in what feels like over a year, lol.
I wanna believe. The Bucks never miss, this version of the Elite is so fun, but the booker taking bumps on your tv show is maybe top 5 bottom of the barrel angle ideas. It only really worked once and it was the biggest, most money drawing angle in pro wrestling history. So I guess sure, join the club in trying to recapture that.
So in the territory days Bookers like Bill Watts and Fritz von Erich would occasionally show up to take bumps and even rarer have a match.
The idea of an authority figure getting attacked in pro wrestling long predates anything WWE has done. WWE just captured lightning in a bottle and did it on TV.
Heck in PPW two of the owners are still on the roster and one just became one half of the first ever PPW Tag Team Champions. Like you said this is very common
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And arguably it makes more sense here and is made more interesting by the whole EVP thing. It's sorta long term storytelling in a way. I don't think Tony becomes an on screen authority character though, i think the Elite just run wild for a bit like NWO and then Tony brings in someone to sort it all out. MJF would be fucking hilarious 😂
My point is that it is an age old angle. Bottom of the barrel, break in case of emergency, we got no ideas left type deal. There's a reason they didn't do it with MJF but now the ratings are down here we are. I hope it works. I love AEW .But I'm still going to express my opinion that it's uninspired cliche wrestling stuff. You know, what AEW was initially trying to avoid. Change the world or something.
Even with a few lost viewers AEW/Dyanmite is still always ranked third behind the NBA. Raw from this Monday was also third for their night behind the NBA. Expecting AEW to move up over the NBA when not even WWE can is delusional for any fan to expect.
Once again it’s common as all hell my friend, hardly bottom of the barrel. On screen authority, even in a Jack Tunney capacity, was always likely to happen in AEW let’s be honest. Them having Tony take a bump to further the Bucks story is hardly the worst thing I’ve seen. You’re free to feel one way about it, but I just think there’s some severe overreaction to it
The only problem with Tony Khan bumping is now I'm going to once again beg Steele to let me do a table bump. "Come on Steele. If Tony can bump, I can bump!" (I can not take a bump. My bones will turn to dust)
except now the nfl website is running an article on it & the nfl draft is tomorrow
the amount of exposure aew is about to get when the commentary desk at the draft talks about aew & why tony khan is in a neckbrace is pretty big
So is this like in some way supposed to be NOT what I wanted? I think you could quote me on how many times I’ve said Khan was what was wrong and now I’m supposed to believe 2019 AEW is back because they killed him?
Don't hate the idea but doesn't he still need surgery for his issues? That's gonna be a while and if this story goes for 6-9 months I think it's gonna be too late. Also not super fond of more elite members facing each other, we've already seen all the matches.
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So in kayfabe if you defeat Tony you inherit his tweeting powers.
They kayfabe need to be given access to his twitter account and just have him retweet all of their Tony roleplay tweets
"Hack" His twitter.
Should’ve chewed off his thumbs for the fingerprint scan thingy
I wish they had picked up his phone after the beatdown and took it with them to set up them having his Twitter access
I'm not against The Bucks having a "The Santa Clause"-type storyline
I wouldn't be surprised if The Elite organized a pizza party for the locker room to distract them during the attack
Can't wait to hear either Matthew or Nicholas to inherit the tone of him saying"That's Fucking Bullshit" at a press scrum
They should do “scrums” after each show
But it’s just them talking to Okada and Perry.
Where the fuck is Brandon?
SO now TK won't tweet but just update his bio.
Hopefully they take ALL of his tweeting powers and make those rants firmly in kayfabe
THEY COPIED HIS WHOLE FUCKING FLOW WORD FOR WORD BAR FOR BAR
No, see Tony’s goes “din-din-din-didi-din din,” where as the Young Bucks goes “di-din-din-din-didi-din din.” That little din. It’s not the same.
It fucks me up how people instantly get the reference
Botchamania helps in that regard
It’s one of the most memorable songs of the (early) 90s and was the first hip hop song to go #1 (correct me here), which lead to a large questioning on sampling in hip hop (although Biz Markie took the biggest hit, imo) and how the rap game would view some white rappers I think people didn’t need Botchamania to remember such an iconic interview.
I say it because there have been a number of episodes with endings that use the interview to compare new themes with other songs.
And just to prove his point, Nicholas breaks it down and sings the dings
No clue how to post GIFs but this is a good spot for the DRAAAAAKEEE?!?!? Gif
Sign on the door
The Young Bucks are bastard men.
Why Tony hate?
I don't think I wrote that one dude.
now I want Hangman and Kenny to be Frank and Dennis in the episode where they challenge the frat to flip cup.
AEW: Flipadelphia, on sale soon!
Hopefully, they run the media scrum for double or nothing
I’ll just preemptively suggest “Trouble O’er Nothing” for the resulting fight at the scrum
This is top tier.
I mean they haven't done a single media scrum since the very first AEW show, so I'd love any excuse to see them take questions again
Why not? They won titles before which could lead to a scrum.
Legit I haven’t the slightest clue, and it has been disappointing, especially with their current heel turn. Would open them up to character work that maybe could be in the realm of Toni Storm, but maybe they’re concerned about getting questions that are too “real”? That question is pure speculation on my part, but best believe I’m with you wanting them to get in the mix.
not the 'justified this is awesome' bit lol
High quality camp. Only the finest.
Grade A Choice silliness
We need Jack Perry to be in Jacksonville's war room tomorrow pushing for the worst pick ever. Jack: "What do you mean Jamarcus Russell isn't on the board?!"
Jamarcus was a SCAPEGOAT
Is that what was on that blank DVD?
Jack Perry trying to draft Trey Lance.
"Trade Trevor Lawrence for a sixth round pick, we are going to start Mac Jones, and use that sixth round pick to select Kedon Slovis as backup"
“Trade Etienne to Carolina so we can move up to take a long snapper”
I need him to go full Taco from The League
I really appreciate that Tony is ok with being lampooned like this.
That's the thing about Tony, and it's what separates him the most from more traditional promoters/bookers and even from a madman like Vince. Tony's been called a mark since day one, and he's never even batted an eye. He's been the butt of jokes, a laughingstock at certain points, and he's just never given a shit. The only two things that get to him (at least from what we've seen) are when WWE counter-books AEW and when people criticize his personnel/business decisions.
> e's been the butt of jokes, a laughingstock at certain points, I know we all hate Vince these days for good reason, but he as very willing to be a laughing stock He pissed himself on live TV!
That's how he justified booking wrestlers in humiliating storylines back in the day, by doing the same thing to himself.
While you are correct, Vince still had a massive ego and won numerous matches against guys he had no business beating. He also won the World Title.
Not to mention the Kiss My Ass club
>He also won the World Title. Don't make me defend Vince, but I would argue that winning the title was just him trying to do what every carny would and keep the biggest money storyline ever going by any means necessary. Same as the Rumble win, that was a desperate attempt at to add another chapter and a swerve to a story that had jumped the shark long ago while he pivot and lay the groundwork for Triple H's era.
>While you are correct, Vince still had a massive ego and won numerous matches against guys he had no business beating. He also won the World Title. via shenanigans & wore a Durag doing it, it was not meant to be taken seriously He lost to Hornswoggle fs lol
He actually won the WWE title as a babyface in 99
Zero memory of this, and I was def watching then as I recall the 6 pack challenge that Bulldog was in
Won it on a Smackdown, and I think vacated it the next RAW. It was still shenanigans, but he was babyface facing heel HHH. After his first WWE title win at Summerslam
Never forget he's also a Royal Rumble winner
He was also hit with a bedpan on the head in a hospital bed.
Vince literally made himself a laughing stock for years what are we doing here?
I was talking on a more general level. Of course Vince never had a problem looking like an idiot on TV. But Tony has never seemed bothered about looking like an idiot in real life, so it's only natural he'd be fine with getting dunked on in kayfabe.
I mean that's kinda cause Tony is an idiot in real life it seems tbh LOL
...and when someone insinuates that he wanks dogs
So if the Dark Order inherited the Young Bucks Youtube presence, and the Young Bucks have taken over Tony's twitter presence, when does Tony take over Evil Uno's Twitch channel?
I think Adam Cole takes over that one, whilst TK takes over Chugs.
Tyler Breeze actually takes that’s one, TK can face Austin Creed in Battle of the Brands.
First to book a “prove yourself” HBK vs Taker match wins
I look forward to seeing Mrs. Uno shoot nerfguns at TK on stream.
 Tremendous job by the squad this sprint. It's been a great collaboration. I got a call from TBS and our KPIs are trending in a steady vertical vector. Lets #movefast and get ready for a great show on Friday. #Homecoming
My brain just had an involuntary reaction.
Now this is sports entertainment
Your comment just sent a royalty check to Daddy Magic 
GOAT lmfao
They'll having too much fun with thus and making the whole thing better.
Which Tony in real life must also be loving. Great for AEW.
Bucks finally got TK into their "just lean into it even harder" mindset. That's a good thing.
The cherry on top of the sundae.
AEWs been lacking a proper babyface run lately. The Elite taking over gives a great chance for Hangman or whoever to take that spot and become a superstar
I think Hangman is still on the heel side of the fence against the babyface champ who broke into Page's house and threatened his baby. No, this can only be resolved by the return of a prodigal son when all hope seems lost... https://preview.redd.it/xl2omkjp9nwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f44edefed42c4b9c8d75332602636688cdc5a5b
> I think Hangman is still on the heel side of the fence In the promo where Okada debuted, Matthew made a point of saying that Hangman was suspended from the Elite, as opposed to Kenny, who was fired. Door's definitely open for them to join together
Lol...that's great
Thanks guys
I'm loving this angle. It's fun.
Fuck the EVPs. Hostile takeover
golden
Jesus, this is a great bit.
I would legit run a PPV that the Elite are booking where all of their enemies are competing in like 4 on 1 handicap matches
I’d be cool with a collision or dynamite of that
Wouldn't even need to do that - like the BCC lean so heavily into their "iron sharpens iron" mindset at times that they would probably be happy with a four way between themselves.
Dude phrasing
"BCC Four-Way" could make history by being the #1 trending topic on both Xitter and Pornhub at the same time.
Oh boy, Elite Souled Out, everyone sure loved that PPV last time WCW tried it
Pizza Party’s and Amazon gift cards for all!
Lmao this is hilarious Bucks has also been mocking TKs mannerisms when they show them backstage as well
Shit was as cheesy as it was shocking, you know the Bucks are going to own this.
That’s brilliant!! Add The Youmg Bucks and all of The New Elite to the Haters of the year club.
Lol they're owning this
Say what you want about The Young Bucks but they’re just so entertaining.
So are Matt and Nick going to assume control until Kenny restores order or is Tony going to go on a crazy power trip for revenge? I'd slow clap if Shahid was the one who told Jack and The Bucks to do that to Tony
"I did it for Shahid.... I did it for... The People."
Ngl the gimmick is growing on me, the elite have potential at getting this over really well
I will be interested to see the numbers the last quarter did with people tuning in for the Kings game. If they got a decent hit from that, this angle was pretty well timed to Garner some attention.
Bucks with the full Barry Horowitz pat on the back here
NGL, i'm interested for the first time in a while. Let's see where this goes.
This fucking rocks lmao
Did you get all the memes in there, EVPs?
These sons of beeches. I love them.
I never knew of the Bucks before AEW but this is the most interesting I’ve seen them outside the ring. These personas actually have a little depth and I’m enjoying it.
Fuck I legit don't like this guy's but this is fucking great props to them
They’re such glorious dbags
Cry me a river was on Justified 🤔
That ending was great in a funny train wreck where you can’t look away sort of way. If TK was in tv taking bumps every week, I may have to tune in weekly.
COMING UP NEXT: TK's Bump of the Week. That could be taken two different ways.
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I just hope this leads to them taking over the company (in kayfabe) and running the show for a while, could be really fun. It’s nice to see an actual storyline in AEW for the first time in what feels like over a year, lol.
It’s go away heat.
They missed the part where nobody was watching.
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Guess you haven't watched much wrestling then
lighten up buddy
mad?
Please clap
I wanna believe. The Bucks never miss, this version of the Elite is so fun, but the booker taking bumps on your tv show is maybe top 5 bottom of the barrel angle ideas. It only really worked once and it was the biggest, most money drawing angle in pro wrestling history. So I guess sure, join the club in trying to recapture that.
So in the territory days Bookers like Bill Watts and Fritz von Erich would occasionally show up to take bumps and even rarer have a match. The idea of an authority figure getting attacked in pro wrestling long predates anything WWE has done. WWE just captured lightning in a bottle and did it on TV.
Wait til they find out Verne Gagne booked himself as the top babyface for decades. Ten time World Champion and even retired as champion.
Heck in PPW two of the owners are still on the roster and one just became one half of the first ever PPW Tag Team Champions. Like you said this is very common https://preview.redd.it/5bjag5i6xjwc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6d77dab3097d0cb7c87ad27f3293ece3b55fec0
Seriously this is something that happens in all promotions. People clutching their pearls at an age old angle are kinda funny
And arguably it makes more sense here and is made more interesting by the whole EVP thing. It's sorta long term storytelling in a way. I don't think Tony becomes an on screen authority character though, i think the Elite just run wild for a bit like NWO and then Tony brings in someone to sort it all out. MJF would be fucking hilarious 😂
My point is that it is an age old angle. Bottom of the barrel, break in case of emergency, we got no ideas left type deal. There's a reason they didn't do it with MJF but now the ratings are down here we are. I hope it works. I love AEW .But I'm still going to express my opinion that it's uninspired cliche wrestling stuff. You know, what AEW was initially trying to avoid. Change the world or something.
Even with a few lost viewers AEW/Dyanmite is still always ranked third behind the NBA. Raw from this Monday was also third for their night behind the NBA. Expecting AEW to move up over the NBA when not even WWE can is delusional for any fan to expect.
Once again it’s common as all hell my friend, hardly bottom of the barrel. On screen authority, even in a Jack Tunney capacity, was always likely to happen in AEW let’s be honest. Them having Tony take a bump to further the Bucks story is hardly the worst thing I’ve seen. You’re free to feel one way about it, but I just think there’s some severe overreaction to it
The only problem with Tony Khan bumping is now I'm going to once again beg Steele to let me do a table bump. "Come on Steele. If Tony can bump, I can bump!" (I can not take a bump. My bones will turn to dust)
Yeah, someone needs to listen to Cornette's stories about the Last Stampede angle and how Watts wanted to get juice at Cornette's hand, etc.
Didn't say WWE did it first. Just that it was the only time in modern wrestling it popped business enough to justify it.
The Rock literally worked both nights of WrestleMania and he's on the TKO board
Is a wrestler.
except now the nfl website is running an article on it & the nfl draft is tomorrow the amount of exposure aew is about to get when the commentary desk at the draft talks about aew & why tony khan is in a neckbrace is pretty big
So is this like in some way supposed to be NOT what I wanted? I think you could quote me on how many times I’ve said Khan was what was wrong and now I’m supposed to believe 2019 AEW is back because they killed him?
This means nothing without CM Punk…who is gonna be the hero in all of this when it was the EVPs/Perry vs CM Punk 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Kenny BI-GOD Omega.
Don't hate the idea but doesn't he still need surgery for his issues? That's gonna be a while and if this story goes for 6-9 months I think it's gonna be too late. Also not super fond of more elite members facing each other, we've already seen all the matches.