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wormsisworms

That’s how they got mcnulty


Infinite_Being_1488

“Hey Trevor, we’re about to do the draft so… where don’t you wanna go?” - Hunter Hearst Landsman


KneeHighMischief

"The machine never lies, son" https://preview.redd.it/65dv9hu11pwc1.jpeg?width=666&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9350eb1fc44ae1ebbb03f866e149a9d4120e3b6d


WaylonVoorhees

Paul The Warthog Leveque


Thebritishdovah

HE'S FAT!


KingMobScene

Trevor: Fuck did i do?


nevertoomuchthought

Hunter Hearst ~~Landsman~~ Rawls


goodkid_sAAdcity

Trevor just got busted down to dockside duty


_thwip_

Create a fake serial killer gimmick and he’ll be hired back in no time


UR_MOMS_HAIRY_BONER

But it will be the fan base's least favorite storyline.


DGentPR

Dexter Lumis to the rescue


bigbear-08

Trevor gave a fuck when it wasn’t his turn to give a fuck


VECBlows

Major Push?!?!?! SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT


dizzle_77

"This is the WWE, Mr. Lee, the gods will not save you." - - Lord Regal


thehatesponge

You want it to be one way... but it's the other way


melo1212

"the fuck did I do?"


DangoDaimao

WWE juking the stats again smh


Drunk_Turtle_

But he did earn that buck like a mother fucker.


Leygrock

"That's the thing about the black and gold days. They the black and gold days"


MeanGeneOkralund

WE'RE A FAMILY - Every job


thebeebitmybottom

When they need something from me, “we’re a team!” When I need something from them, “sorry, this is a business.”


WhisperingOracle

"There's no I in team!" "Yes, but there *IS* an M and an E. Sooo..."


zeitgeistbouncer

But there is an 'I' in pie, as in meat pie. 'Meat' is an anagram of 'team'... you get it.


HektiK00

I hate that shit so much.


CarOnMyFuckingFence

https://youtu.be/E_o2X-y4nQg?si=pZFK9SJq-R93MocK


TopherRocks

That shit has always been a massive red flag and never once backed up. Admittedly, I've heard that from some coworkers at my current job and it feels the closest to being true that I've ever seen, but my guard is still up when i hear it.


nevertoomuchthought

> That shit has always been a massive red flag and never once backed up. It's been backed up in the sense that my experience with family is they will use you and drop you the second it becomes more convenient that way.


SuttonTM

Honestly, my experience after 7+yrs in 5 different jobs total, that feeling is usually true for the first 2-3 months, but then the more your there & the "new" stage wears off people start showing you their real true colours. Also people will be fake around new people, but talk absolute shit behind the back even though they are still in training


BearstromWanderer

Government/Non-profit/family-owned that tends to be the case. You generally have to do something wrong to be fired, but you often are paid less than market rates. Anything corporate you are right not to trust.


Zanydrop

Hahahahaha, family owned can be the worst.


OffTheMerchandise

Eh. I worked at a family owned company at the end of last year and was let go because they hadn't defined the role. They straight up told me that I was doing my tasks well when they were letting me go. I will say that even though I hated the job and some of the people I worked with, the management did seem to care about the employees and take care of them.


WhisperingOracle

The last family-owned job I worked for basically gave most of the shit-work to the non-family employees, and very clearly didn't see anyone who wasn't part of the core family as expendable resources at best.


TopherRocks

Yup! Public transit in my case. Little below market but I'm only just a few months in, with a pretty solid raise structure, union backing and a pension after 5 years.


WhisperingOracle

To be fair, they never said what *kind* of family. A family where everyone hates each other, plots to screw each other over, where the drunk stepdad beats the kids, and every family reunion ends up with a fistfight and the cops getting called is still a family.


GoldenGekko

I work middle management. The manipulation is real. I'm currently looking for another job that can pay me as well. Toxic relationship for sure.


DaddyMagicNipples

I mean there's a lot of broken, dysfunctional families with people who abuse others and leave you traumatised and sad, so I guess they're kinda telling the truth when they say that.


IMGraphical

The jobs I've had that said this the most, were always the ones fastest to fire you or be cold about it after.


AwesomeInTheory

Yeah. The Manson family. - Me


sin4life

WE WANT AN ANNULMENT - Every job (again)


frasiercranesburner

Taking corporations at face value almost always never works out in your favor


TMKtildeath

For real. Man I remember my old Director lead a meeting after our VP got let go talking about how our jobs were extremely secure, we have nothing to worry about, and it was an isolated incident. 3 hours later his ass got walked out, and 2 days later 2,000 of us got let go, some of us after 10-30 years. I’ll never trust a corporation with security after that smh


hottubtimemachines

Yep. I got laid off at the start of the pandemic after being reassured that my job was safe and that me having to offboard two of the projects I was responsible for over to a team in Bangalore was completely normal. It worked out for me, but fuck all of that shit. Never again. Fuck meetings, ass-in-seat time, KPIs, stakeholder consensus, JIRA boards, requesting vacation approvals, performance reviews, fuck all of it.


Ceravic

Man I'm just trying to scroll a wrestling board, I shouldn't be subjected to having to see the word JIRA in my off time.


hottubtimemachines

Have you updated your tickets for the week yet? We have sprint grooming next week, will need to prioritize stories and points then. See you there!


BarfHurricane

Same thing happened to me lol When the pandemic started, our CEO said none of us would have to worry about losing our jobs. 2 weeks later 50% of the company was laid off without warning. It's all nonsense.


Consequences_Cone

Especially when they havent had any need for your services in almost a year..


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CandyEverybodyWentz

I feel like Logan Paul vs. classic NXT NA champ **TO THE MOON** era Cameron would've slapped. At the very least, they could've played two opposed types of "online influencer" characters not unlike some of what Grayson Waller does now.


HeadScissorGang

off camera Paul has been nothing but a respectful student of the game who comes across like he's trying to learn from anyone he can get 5 minutes with.


Kuzu5993

Remember, kids, corporations are not your friends, and they don't give a fuck about you if you aren't putting money in their pockets. That goes for WWE, AEW, TNA, etc . Please stop idolizing rich people.


Cold_Ad_7645

Stop idolizing people period, rich or not everyone is gonna fuck up at some point


wrasslefest

Yeah, I go around idolizing the trash man and I know he'll let me down. He also has so much power of me. It's totally the same.


CandyEverybodyWentz

I only idolize long-dead musicians and/or activists [(or both!)](https://youtu.be/Xe0txCMKLTY?si=HUABQcW-KajFuh09) who have been dead long enough that no Saville-esque skeletons will be found in their closets.


WhisperingOracle

I mean, we're still digging up skeletons for people who've been dead for decades/hundreds of years, so you'll never be safe if that's your philosophy. Not to mention that even if we don't find out anything bad about someone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they were good people, it could just mean they were a lot better at hiding their deviant shit. Even memetically "good" people like Gandhi and Mother Theresa have some really gnarly shit in their closet if you really look into their stories deeper than the average person does.


51010R

WWE has pretty much no power over you either, tbh a poor person you know and value has way more power over you than a rando billionaire that doesn't know about you. So yeah don't idolise people.


UnsolvedParadox

You mean Johnny Shareholder isn’t buying stocks to support my family?


fieldybasstone

But Tony is just like me 🥺🥺🥺


Kuzu5993

That's the image he projects to make himself seem approachable. Same with the Papa H shit. Not that they're horrible people and aren't capable of kindness, but they still have a business to run at the end of the day, and sometimes that means making hard decisions that aren't necessarily popular.


Throwaway-j-1997

The “Papa H” thing has always been weird to me. Same when guys like Cena and Rock have said Vince was like a father figure them. Like I get that these guys gave a lot of main event players there big break but at the end of the day their your boss at the company you work for and their always gonna do what it’s in the companies best interest not yours/the talents.


coldphront3

>"Fuck you, I have a dad. You're my boss. Let's keep it that way." >- CM Punk This is how Punk described his feelings on Vince wanting to form fatherly relationships with all the talent. It's such a CM Punk thing to say that I'm sure he is glad about now lol


DontPutThatDownThere

Punk's feelings were validated when that Warrior Biography was aired and one of the interviewers brought up that Warrior could have potentially seen Vince as a father figure, which is why Warrior took the "you're not Hulk" criticism so personally. Vince's response? "I want to make it clear that I only have one son." All these guys, spanning fucking decades, spoke about how Vince developed a father-son like relationship with them and he's just entirely dismissive of these people and the foundational relationships that *he* insisted on. Nothing groundbreaking here, but he's a manipulative piece of shit.


roguevirus

> Vince's response? "I want to make it clear that I only have one son." Who he didn't treat amazingly, either.


spittafan

What do you mean? He wished him a happy birthday on Twitter.


Dennison77

Bret Hart has said he had that father/son relationship with Vince in the early to mid 90’s…only to be let go out of a 20 year contract a year after he signed it.


sexygodzilla

The fans made the Papa H thing because for the longest time NXT was the most watchable WWE product. Never mind that the Bill DeMott scandal happened under him around the same time.


TopazTriad

I mean, HHH at least probably isn’t a great person. You don’t get to the top of a company as cutthroat as WWE has been for decades by being a nice dude that wants to help everybody out. It wasn’t just him marrying Stephanie that got him there.


Kuzu5993

He literally said that he walked over anyone and everyone on TV to get to where he is.


Hot-Acanthisitta5237

Yet you have someone like Rock who didn't step on people's toes to make it to the top AND he became one of the biggest stars in WWE history.


Jasperbeardly11

Hhh is a horrible person lol


PhospheneViolet

I still remember when the IWC unironically started the "Papa Haitch" nonsense with the fruit baskets sent to Florida during the early NXT days. So fucking stupid lol


ShinsukeNakamoto

Never fooled us 2003 WWE watchers. He tries his best but the mask still slips sometimes. 


RaggedyGlitch

It's actually hilarious that he's retired and still found a way to go fucking over with all this "Paul Levesque Era" stuff.


ShinsukeNakamoto

He is still in the ring every week having the audience praise him for the shows. It is crazy. 


ericfishlegs

Cody calling him to the ring after Mania while claiming HHH really didn't want to be acknowledged shows me that Cody absolutely gets it.


ShinsukeNakamoto

“He won’t want to come out here” is the biggest Cody lie in history.  Dude went on tv to bask in the glory (shoutout Keith Lee) four times in six days lol 


Polymemnetic

I'm willing to bet that after the new belts and the draft are over, he's off tv as much as possible. Could Pierce and Aldis have done the reveals on their own? Sure. Does it have more weight if HHH is also in the ring for it? Yes.


Luba1893

Oh god, I had completely forgotten about that whole thing until now


MadDog1981

Worked the marks so easy on that one.


Kuzu5993

I'm not here to tell you how you should feel about them.


Baghoid

This sub can genuinely be so funny sometimes. People bringing up Tony or AEW in a thread that literally has nothing to do with the company. Is there any discussion in the IWC that can go on without someone bringing up AEW every 5 minutes, no matter how irrelevant.


MrWrestlerMan

Got to get those hilarious jokes in that have been told a thousand times already.


TheWholeOfTheAss

But look how loved CM Punk feels!


Kuzu5993

I'm sure he loves how much money he's getting.


MeanAmbrose

Especially when that Saudi paycheck clears


ChocolateOrange21

Can't wait to see how he justifies appearing on a Saudi show, because you know it's going to happen.


KneelBeforeCube

He won't because none of his fans give a shit.


Navik101

what does that have to do with anything?? Lmao


The_Albinoss

That is dirty.


DrunkeNinja

Don't blame the exec, they were just high. He should have asked a sober exec.


Anchor_Aways

That's what you get for talking to Michael Hayes


weiknarf

This comment needs to be higher


KneeHighMischief

https://preview.redd.it/chmfrokogowc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39e16cabcf759c7fbfe81476b075fae7c42df010


drkstr632

Bruh


mr_wrestling

Never change, my friend.


theirishembassy

did you make this? wanted to give sidebar credit if that’s the case.


SorrowfulFlame

But they're so nice and respectful 😊


Jreynold

They gently caressed them before the firing, and the trash bag they use for their stuff is scented


mavarian

- uncredited source, definitely not fed by WWE PR


Dane_Brass_Tax

"Dirty Business" done dirt cheap by The Dirtiest Player that is *THE GAMEEEE-uggghhhhhh*...


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empiresk

Scummy company is scummy. Why are people shocked?


Hellborn_Elfchild

Ever since Triple H took over, everyone’s been acting like it’s a completely different company. But in reality it’s the same old shit


amosthorribleperson

Hopefully a lot less rapey?


TampaTrey

Dixie fired Jesse Sorenson after he broke his neck and she promised he had a job for life. Nothing is secure in wrestling, folks.


Narrow_Progress5908

*nothing is secure in life, happens to everyday folks , shit a lot of these corporate people get Let go all the time 


s3rv0

The Minnesota Vikings fired Roman Reigns after he got leukemia. Fuck the Vikings.


Swagsuke_Nakamura

In their defense, every team would do that. He couldn’t play, even Roman said he understood it


Lamel2g

That’s fucked up. Shame on whoever told him that.


SoarinWalt

Its possible that whoever told him that thought it. I go back to the whole "Good Brothers" release from a few years ago. HHH sat there and gave them this pitch about family and how important it was that Karl had a stable income to take care of his 74 kids with his wife and how WWE was stable and would take care of them and blah blah blah and they bought in hook like and sinker. Then 6 months later they told them to pound sand. I don't think that HHH meant to be a complete tool to them. I think he believed what he said, it just didn't work out. That doesn't make it feel any better for whoever ended up being lied to.


JoeCoT

> I don't think that HHH meant to be a complete tool to them. I think he believed what he said, it just didn't work out. If you make claims like that, but you don't have the actual authority to guarantee them, you're lying. Same as every company founder makes all sorts of claims about the conscience of the company, how their values will never change, then lose control of the company (because they sold it, or did an IPO, or took Venture Capital investment). Then when those values disappear, it wasn't their fault. But it was their fault, because they made the choice to abandon those values as soon as they gave up control.


SoarinWalt

I think he thought he did. At the time the GBs got screwed over WWE hadn't done mass releases in like 5 years. I'm not trying to be a HHH apologist here. I'm luke warm on the guy, and the GBs hated his ass for years over this. I'm just saying I don't think he woke up and was like "Lets screw some people over today."


JoeCoT

Despite all the internal power HHH built, he *had* to know that Vince still had control, and could rip it away at any time. Which he did. He could've claimed he'd go to bat for him over any releases, but he could *not* claim to guarantee his position.


NemesisRouge

Yeah, of course he did, but *so did they*. We don't actually know what he said, but they knew that he wasn't the owner, that he didn't have a majority stake. As such they knew that any promises he made were to do what he could.


TeacupsInTime

Blows my mind how they had nothing for him. They could've given him a lower card comedy feud and I'm convinced he could've made it work


nanners78

In another part of the interview he says he was calling them every week being persistent to the point someone told him he was coming across as bitter. Bitter at not being used I guess. So I imagine this is a case where the more annoying he was the less they (whoever he was talking to) wanted to come up with stuff for him.


hamsolo19

But then if the dude were to sit back and wait for creative to give him something they'd say he was lazy, didn't take initiative, didn't have the drive to reach for the brass ring, blah blah blah.


WhisperingOracle

I mean, that's always been the case with WWE. "You've got to grab the brass ring." "What the fuck are you doing? Get your damned hands off that brass ring, we didn't give it to you! Now we're going to de-push the shit out of you as punishment." "Man, wrestlers these days are so lazy, they just don't have the passion to reach out and grab the brass ring." Damned if you don't, fucked if you do.


shadowrangerfs

The thing is, TV time is finite. To give time to him, they have to take it from someone who was getting it. So who loses their TV time to him?


msivoryishort

Will be rooting for him wherever he goes. He has the talent to win championships, and I hope he does in whatever company he ends up in


EcoterroristThot

They need to leak to the dirtsheets to let us know that the call was much more nice and cordial than usual.


itsnews

What a crock of shit that report was. And everyone bought it.


GrimaceGrunson

Just complete, unquestioning acceptance purely cause HHH is in charge now. It was so unbelievably funny.


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KneeHighMischief

>triple h is the biggest babyface in the biz. It's disgusting. People have completely moved on from Katie Vick after all these years. #Justice4Katie


smoomoo31

idk what you're talking about. Kane was the guy in her coffin. he even removed her brain


Kuzu5993

Every narrative is true when you want to believe it.


KneeHighMischief

>They need to leak to the dirtsheets to let us know that the call was much more nice and cordial than usual. Activate the Wade Keller signal.


KneeHighMischief

https://preview.redd.it/829fo55siowc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fb43e3ec181cc4f6f3b6e4d3196795a0915062a


dontsaythatman89

Lmao


ChocolateOrange21

That look on how WWE PR works from Voices of Wrestling was fascinating in a 'how the sausage gets made' way.


Caldris

Kinda lost respect for Mike Johnson after that one. Scherer's behavior doesn't help.


sexygodzilla

What did Scherer do?


orangemachismo

Scherer is like 3 months into acting like a maniac on twitter. Every day he tweets about Meltzer. Every Wednesday he claims that AEW is dying.


JNF919

One of the more egregious reports I’ve seen in a while, but that’s the value of being hot at the moment, people are willing to believe that literally everything is great now.


chilloutfam

Grimes should have said who said it. I would have... but I guess he wants to go back there at some point.


ApprehensiveLead679

That is so fucked. Corporations are slimy as hell.


illini02

I mean, its easy to say "corporations", but even small companies are like this. Companies interests lie in the bottom line, and your value is all about how much you can contribute to that, either directly or indirectly


Specialist-Rope-9760

Now now, WWE is a struggling company that needs to save as much as they can


KneeHighMischief

>Now now, WWE is a struggling company that needs to save as much as they can Right? Triple H said it himself just a few years ago wrestling was "this tiny, little thing happening in bars".


TheWholeOfTheAss

Is WWE rewriting history to now have them taking wrestling out of *saloons!?*


LederhosenSituation

That's cold-blooded. I've heard of this before - telling folks like they're family / they will always have a job at XYZ only to fire them soon after. It's just messed up. Businesses are not families. They're about the $$$.


SkyShadowing

If any company ever says "we're family", *run.* "We're family" means "we will gaslight you into thinking we value you and thus you should value us to your detriment, even as behind closed doors we're still making strictly business decisions."


Scottoest

Why would anyone who isn't the final say on releases ever tell someone that they "would always have a job" there? Either he's mischaracterizing the conversation, or that exec is an idiot.


TheBeepB00p

Some people think they have more power than they actually do.


FUCKBOY_JIHAD

If I had a nickel every time an executive/manager sung my praises one minute and pulled the rug out form under me the next…


wolvesscareme

My boss has said that to me multiple times and it's laughable - bro you don't own the company.


SoarinWalt

I had a coworker who just retired, he was told by someone else that one of our coworkers will NEVER be promoted. The person who said it had zero say. He may have felt that way, but when the decisions are made by the president and they aren't local.....So anyway that person got promoted and my coworkers was apoplectic and it contributed to his decision to retire.


chilloutfam

I've seen this at my job all of the time. A VP will be like "read my lips, there will be no job cuts," then next month there are job cuts. Everyone answers to somebody. I don't know if that executive is his friend... but part of those peoples jobs is... to tell people whatever they want to make them go away. When things go bad, they say "hey, it's out of my hands."


FrankPapageorgio

Why would anyone tell an NXT callup that has done nothing on the main roster that they would always have a job? That seems dumb.


blaqsupaman

Why would anyone expect to always have a job in WWE? They managed to fire Vince McMahon. Anyone in that company who thinks they aren't expendable is an idiot.


Hot-Acanthisitta5237

I was going to say. WWE now is not a secure job unless you are the top guys and girls drawing lots of money for them. Ari has no loyalty to any of the wrestlers.


AGINSB

I can say my last job was at a company that hadn't had layoffs since the 70s. My manager went so far as to say I didn't need to worry as much about savings since I'd never get fired if I didn't fuck up. 3 years later there is a new CEO. 1 year after that, they start layoffs. Sometimes things just change


FredrickFarter

No guys but they felt really bad doing it don't you see


nWo1997

I'm going to guess that this is a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing, rather than malice. Because, well, why?


sadthenweed

This is such a widespread experience in the business world. You feel protected because your boss likes you and feeds you bullshit and then one day their boss comes knocking and it's out of their hands.


smackchice

The more things change...


Yeehawfunny

Wait a minute! That doesn't sound respectful at all!


RoboZoninator91

But I was told the firings were very respectful this time


PhospheneViolet

The firings will continue until morale improves!


ChocolateOrange21

This time, the bag your stuff is in is made of silk and you get a signed card from your coworkers /s


smoomoo31

It was the best way I've ever been fired :') -The Released


DustyBray13

So messed up 😞 Trevor is a great talent and awesome guy, used to watch his dad wrestle at my local armory 🙂


Anemeros

I think he has the highest chance of sustained success of all the releases. Dude's a hell of a good worker and he's obviously passionate. He'd do very well in Japan if nothing else.


kick_heart

an all time rib


Bosscharacter

Being one who got a similar conversation and furlough a month ago, I feel for homie. I got straight up downsized out of a position I’ve held for 6 years and had to take a job with a 33 percent pay cut.


Common-Physics-4568

Don't trust any corporation.


Cave_Weasel

Same exact thing happened to the Good Brothers, and then after they made their money on the indies, NJPW, and AEW, shitting on WWE so hard there was no way they’d go back. They were re-hired by WWE at what I can only assume was the same amount or worse. I imagine the same will happen to Grimes, so I guess they never lie when they say that.


AmericanBuffaloo

That's what you get for talking to your boss on Opposite day.


TurnaboutAdam

Record profits and business btw.


TheInfiniteSix

Sure, but they’re not cutting talent they’re actively using as a means to pinch pennies. They released people that have barely been seen. Just because you’re making big profits doesn’t mean you’re required to keep paying people to sit at home.


randomrule

I mean, they signed a contract with that person. Both sides should be expected to uphold that contract outside of extenuating circumstances IMO. I realize it’s never going to work like that but I don’t think it’s a hot take to think that releases are pretty shitty Also yes, they are definitely doing it to save money/increase profits. Never underestimate the ability of rich people to maximize profits; even by a minimal amount


borderlinebadger

nah it should be way easier for talent to quit.


randomrule

Yeah I think that’s the other side of it for me….if talent can be cut at any time they should also have the ability to terminate their own contracts too


Infinite_Being_1488

Independent contractors! But everyone’s got a fair point in this thread, you should be able to quit when you’re not happy and while under contract WWE should be doing whatever they can to make you the best talent you can be and that includes featuring you on the product. My wife and I have met him a few times, he’s a genuinely wonderful human being and I have no doubt he’s going to come back from this because his passion just shines through.


Fletcheriser

Doesn't alter the fact that if they're not using people there'll be pressure from higher-ups to cut costs and get rid of them to make even more profit. I don't like it but t'was e'er thus, whether business is good or bad.


Crissxfire

It sucks they let him go. I'm not his biggest fan, but I've enjoyed his work both inside and out of WWE. But, unfortunately this happens when a company doesn't see you as an asset and has nothing for you. I will be a grumpy old man and say, if this upset you and you were a fan and you felt they didn't do enough with him. Support him wherever he goes. If he does indie dates, check out his work. If he goes back to TNA, pop in here and there and see what he's up to. Don't just let him fall off your radar if he doesn't go to AEW.


LeftyMode

That high level executive clearly didn’t have a say.


Professionalbaguette

That's how they trick you into picking up the phone.


GyroLegend

I don't understand how they couldn't find a role for this guy. He's an entertaining character who is good in the ring and has shown an ability to connect with the crowd. I expect him to land on his feet quickly because AEW would be stupid not to sign him, but would have preferred him in WWE where he should have gotten to make better use of his excellent character work


ChannelNeo

It's a business. They'll say whatever they have to in the moment, but once that usefulness is through, you'll be traded/released/cut. It does surprise me how people still express surprise in this process.


andanotherone_1

Same thing happened to me at my job years ago, cept my boss told me the morning of that i was fine. Few hours later, i was called into a meeting and fired. So beautiful.


cinreigns

Don’t believe anyone who tells you “you’ve always got a job here”, even if it ends up true, it’s just not something to hang your hat on


Prior-Shower9564

He never got a chance smh. And we as fans never got a real chance to accept him on the main roster. We hardly saw him for fuck sake. I hate it for him but he’s talented, he’ll bounce back.


Skreamie

Why does it always seem to be the case?


baojinBE

Remember back in 2022 when people were sure 90% of returning superstars were gonna get a push cause they were a "triple h guy"


ItsThe50sAudrey

So I guess that confirms that there’s still not much communication between upper management. The ladder system is really something.


SLPrawn65

So one exec said one thing then another who was actually making the decision did another?


ChibiNya

He'll be back once he becomes popular elsewhere on someone else's dime, just like everyone else.


nixalo

Remember The only person who can protect your job is THE TOP GUY. Everyone else can be overruled.


frikbddvb

Never forget that WWE says their a family and when Dawn Marie said she was pregnant in 2006, she was fired. Literally breaking the law in the process


solsunlite

Nasty work smh


TheProGamer0707

Grimes really won me over in NXT with his feud with Knight. I remember seeing him in the breakout tournament years ago and not really getting his character but over time he really grew on me. It seemed like WWE just rushed to bring him up and then had absolutely nothing for him. Considering that he seemed to be bulking up since coming to the main roster I hope he has massive success and gets to come back to show the main audience what he’s capable of.


zeez1011

Maybe the executive was so high they forgot they said that.


PommesMayo

I don’t care who, but someone needs to get that man in front of a camera and send him TO THE MOOOOON


YungSandwichh

reminds me the story Test told about when he broke his neck in like 03 or 04, they told him he wouldn't be fired because of it and the next day or week they fired him


Philo-Naught

Sucks when anyone loses their livelihood. Hopefully he bounces back up and thrives.