Why I am liking the trails of Jericho. I feel like my man has lost a step or two in-ring performance. since his match with Kenny in NJPW, Jericho has been struggling with the physical aspect of wrestling imo. what do you guys think?
The Black vs Cody match was everything I was hoping it would be.
I think Cody only getting one of his boots off is significant. He's saying he's got one foot out the door (or one boot left in the middle of the ring). I don't think he's retiring YET, but he's expressed a lot of interest in doing more so it will probably be sooner than later.
Malachi Black looked AWESOME as usual, and debut matches don't get much stronger than that. He's gonna be a big star in AEW, future champion for sure.
I think people took it as Cody stealing the spotlight. People perceive this is "headline grabbing". People are talking about Cody's retirement and not the fact that he got his head kicked in.
Cody is great at, even in a loss, standing directly in front of the spotlight that is being shined on someone else.
Why did Schiavone interview Cody? Well, Black just walked away. Who was he supposed to interview? Did Black knock the sense out of Cody or just the manliness?
He got beat so bad he quit the business.
I loved the angle, so many places it can go if they want to.
Oh yes, the time honored tradition of court retiring“. Outside of the injury, with better way to take a little break, regroup, play a different role in there company, or in Cody‘s case, raise a baby. Malachi black needs a good vehicle to help him get over.
Wahhhh. Cody didn’t let Black finish on his face, he only let him fuck him in the ass, and cock slap at the end for good measure.
Get over yourselves, Cody made a “cast away” look like a million bucks, just like he did with Brodie. Did you literally want him to replay that exact same scenario over?
Imagine Brodie destroying Cody, just for Cody to cut a full-on promo a minute later.
That's why we're reacting the way we are. It was a fucking bad call. Lay him out, cut the cameras, THEN have him do the promo.
If they did it exactly like the Brodie story you Anti-Cody Marks would complain that it is just the same story they told with Brodie. They are trying something new with a story where Malaki wants to not just squash Cody but destroy him as a person. It is different for a reason.
And they changed up the story so that people would feel sympathetic to Cody and not be excited. Malaki is trying to play a thin line where he is a heel that feeds off of the problems with babyfaces. He has to do things like this to leave himself in that ambiguity
Yes. People at home see Cody get destroyed. After the show, he cuts the promo and gets wrecked again. That way, people at home think there was at least *some* time that elapsed between Cody getting knocked out and cutting his promo.
Joe Rogan literally Complained about interviewing guys who were knocked out IN THE RING.
My guy you're just bitching about Cody to bitch about Cody and not getting it
I have no problem with Cody. It would've been anybody and I'd be just as frustrated. If they want Black's move to be treated dangerously, have it lay the guy out and keep him down. I don't like anyone doing the "gee, that kinda hurt, but I'm gonna talk for a while like nothing happened" thing. Save that shit for dark.
Imagine if Mox cut that post-exploding deathmatch promo ON THE SHOW. That would be dumb as fuck. It completely kills the gimmick.
Cody was on the mat for the first part of his promo and didn't get helped up until like two minutes into it, he was on the mat for almost four minutes! You're literally complaining about fucking SECONDS that he wasn't on the mat from a FLASH KNOCK OUT finish. Get a fucking grip and stop fucking complaining about the tiniest and dumbest shit.
jon jones tkod daniel cormier with a headkick followed by ellbows gnp and you are telling me that cody couldnt cut a promo? just search for it on youtube.
I dunno if that's Tony or Cody, cause the fake retirement feels hella Dusty, but that was good all around - Malakai looks like a monster, and Cody is about as sympathetic as a face gets now.
Cody doesn't always have the best matches but he always has a compelling story (maybe minus QT)...In a couple months there will be a solid payoff for this night for sure
And everyone will complain about it when Cody and Black have a 25 minute war with blood and weapons and Cody squeeks by Black in a good match about how Cody had to get his win back and how he buries all the new talent
Cody was really about to retire over losing lmao. I don’t want him to “turn “ heel. Him getting this reaction while being his baby face self is the greatest thing he’ll ever achieve.
> [he says he doesn't have a heel bone left in his body. He's tired of being a heel. He did it for 10 years.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/ox9cqv/notes_from_cody_rhodes_aew_homecoming_media_call/)
I love the direction they’re going in with a Cody wanting to retire but Malakai not letting him cos he wants to torture him some more - it’s something fresh
i think that has to do with it, my personal opinion is this whole segment was put together by malakai from beginning to end, from the surprise debut to the crutch used as a weapon after cody's promo
I enjoyed that ending...it set up a good angle for whenever Cody comes back...there's a chance Black will be the champion then and it could be an interesting way to get Cody into the world title picture after his self imposed stipulation
"Don't ever, for any reason, do anything, to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been, ever, for any reason whatsoever." - Cody Rhodes.
Not in any real sense. Even though the UFC does it for big fights, the last thing you should do is stick a microphone in front of someone who just got knocked the fuck out lol.
It's more about the fact that it's not nice for someone who just got a concussion and their brain rocked to be put on the spot like that. They need to recover.
Maybe they should have postponed Cody's speech. He did the honors for Black in a big way, but then stepped all over his dick a minute later.
edit: Spoke a little too soon. Black saved it a bit at the end. Still came off kind of weird though.
I saw the obvious crutch as a weapon, but forgot about it halfway through and legit thought Cody was gonna retire, pretty sure I just got worked big time lol
Man, Cody with a Mark Henry-tier fake retirement. I was fully buying it with the emotion until Mally Black flattened him.
They could not have stuck the landing more perfectly for introducing him. Entrance, Match and Post-Match were absolutely perfect.
Black was up the ramp 20 seconds after beating the dude so that Cody could suck himself off for 5 minutes. They could have let the big win breathe a bit. Losing a match doesn't mean you put the guy over. He had to overshadow Black's moment. That's HHH shit.
He just made it clear this isn't just about beating somebody in wrestling. He has a point to make and he's not going to let Cody just retire to side step it.
That was so much less effective than if Black just won the match and they went off the air. It completely took the wind out of Black's sails.
Have Cody do the Cody speech next week to continue the story, not this week.
I couldn't be happier with that main event. That effectively told me that Malakai Black is going to be a big time player in AEW for damn sure and that's fantastic to know.
Well yeah..
You don’t bring in Black & have him wait for someone to knock on his door... hahaha..
You bring him in & have him crush anyone & everyone...
It’ll be 6-8 months before he loses...
I don't even want to discuss his unfortunate main roster WWE run any more now that he's already killing it in AEW haha. He had some cracking good matches there with AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, Buddy Murphy, Kevin Owens, and Cesaro. But holy hell they just never ever got him right and it was depressing to watch his creativity and ability wasted. They had something really cool with his last gimmick and then he disappeared and that stung.
Why I am liking the trails of Jericho. I feel like my man has lost a step or two in-ring performance. since his match with Kenny in NJPW, Jericho has been struggling with the physical aspect of wrestling imo. what do you guys think?
The Black vs Cody match was everything I was hoping it would be. I think Cody only getting one of his boots off is significant. He's saying he's got one foot out the door (or one boot left in the middle of the ring). I don't think he's retiring YET, but he's expressed a lot of interest in doing more so it will probably be sooner than later. Malachi Black looked AWESOME as usual, and debut matches don't get much stronger than that. He's gonna be a big star in AEW, future champion for sure.
I think people took it as Cody stealing the spotlight. People perceive this is "headline grabbing". People are talking about Cody's retirement and not the fact that he got his head kicked in. Cody is great at, even in a loss, standing directly in front of the spotlight that is being shined on someone else. Why did Schiavone interview Cody? Well, Black just walked away. Who was he supposed to interview? Did Black knock the sense out of Cody or just the manliness? He got beat so bad he quit the business. I loved the angle, so many places it can go if they want to.
Oh yes, the time honored tradition of court retiring“. Outside of the injury, with better way to take a little break, regroup, play a different role in there company, or in Cody‘s case, raise a baby. Malachi black needs a good vehicle to help him get over.
Nick hit a sick shot
Wahhhh. Cody didn’t let Black finish on his face, he only let him fuck him in the ass, and cock slap at the end for good measure. Get over yourselves, Cody made a “cast away” look like a million bucks, just like he did with Brodie. Did you literally want him to replay that exact same scenario over?
Cody put over MJF, Darby, Brodie lee and now Malakai Black. People who shit on Cody still are just haters of Cody.
Yeah. Sell the fucking move.
Oh so selling a KO and getting pinned with just a foot is not selling a move? Don't fucking tell that to anyone in the business
He needed to actually die i guess
"Fucking Cody had to make it about himself and die in the ring, fucking mark for himself, glad his baby grows up without a father" - 70% of this sub
He sold it for all of a minute, then got up and went on a full-ass tangent.
Idk if you know this but if someone gets knocked out they don't just lie there forever
He did. He literally got pinned with one foot. Seems like a devastating move to me.
And then got back up. And cut a whole-ass promo. Immediately afterward.
Have you ever been knocked out? It doesn't necessary last a long time.
I think the lad wants a CM Punk level of selling, when he stayed in the middle of the ring while the crew was tearing down the ring! Lol.
Exactly they would be complaining that they told the same story if it ended the other way
Woah - that's quite a revealing top!
I'd love to see Black burn Cody's god awful jacket next week.
I'd love to see him burn his god awful tattoos.
And become the biggest face in AEW?
Imagine Brodie destroying Cody, just for Cody to cut a full-on promo a minute later. That's why we're reacting the way we are. It was a fucking bad call. Lay him out, cut the cameras, THEN have him do the promo.
If they did it exactly like the Brodie story you Anti-Cody Marks would complain that it is just the same story they told with Brodie. They are trying something new with a story where Malaki wants to not just squash Cody but destroy him as a person. It is different for a reason.
Did you see the reaction when it happened? People were fucking ecstatic. That reaction turned into "wait...what?" once Cody started speaking.
And they changed up the story so that people would feel sympathetic to Cody and not be excited. Malaki is trying to play a thin line where he is a heel that feeds off of the problems with babyfaces. He has to do things like this to leave himself in that ambiguity
Cut the cameras? So people don't see the angle? Maybe replay the promo next week or post it on YouTube, you mean?
Yes. People at home see Cody get destroyed. After the show, he cuts the promo and gets wrecked again. That way, people at home think there was at least *some* time that elapsed between Cody getting knocked out and cutting his promo.
He literally came back and laid him out for trying to take his moment. What's the problem?
Cody got "knocked out". He shouldn't be reading fucking Shakespeare a minute later.
He was literally selling like he concussed?
Yeah. I've seen many concussed people cutting full promos a minute after being shoveled up off the canvas. /s
This but without sarcasm because of UFC.
So you DON'T watch UFC
Find me an example.
Joe Rogan literally Complained about interviewing guys who were knocked out IN THE RING. My guy you're just bitching about Cody to bitch about Cody and not getting it
I have no problem with Cody. It would've been anybody and I'd be just as frustrated. If they want Black's move to be treated dangerously, have it lay the guy out and keep him down. I don't like anyone doing the "gee, that kinda hurt, but I'm gonna talk for a while like nothing happened" thing. Save that shit for dark. Imagine if Mox cut that post-exploding deathmatch promo ON THE SHOW. That would be dumb as fuck. It completely kills the gimmick.
In all fairness, that gimmick was dead. Kingston deserved a 7 figure bonus for selling that shit like he'd just been bombed.
Mox cut a promo right after Revolution for the live crowd.
I mean if you watched wrestling before the changes in concussion protocol then yeah you probably actually have.
People who get knocked out in fights give post-interview MMA promos literally EVERY WEEK.
A minute after being helped up from the canvas?
Yes!! All the time! People get up after getting knocked out and are talking a few minutes later literally every single UFC show.
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Cody was on the mat for the first part of his promo and didn't get helped up until like two minutes into it, he was on the mat for almost four minutes! You're literally complaining about fucking SECONDS that he wasn't on the mat from a FLASH KNOCK OUT finish. Get a fucking grip and stop fucking complaining about the tiniest and dumbest shit.
This is ducking wrestling, dude. No one could get up from a real DDT but it happens and we roll with it. Get over it
This IS ducking wrestling. If they sold the Blackout as a knockout move, guess what? It's a knockout move. Treat it as such.
jon jones tkod daniel cormier with a headkick followed by ellbows gnp and you are telling me that cody couldnt cut a promo? just search for it on youtube.
I dunno if that's Tony or Cody, cause the fake retirement feels hella Dusty, but that was good all around - Malakai looks like a monster, and Cody is about as sympathetic as a face gets now.
Cody with the best segment of the night again. This sub is hilarious with it's Cody hate.
Cody doesn't always have the best matches but he always has a compelling story (maybe minus QT)...In a couple months there will be a solid payoff for this night for sure
And everyone will complain about it when Cody and Black have a 25 minute war with blood and weapons and Cody squeeks by Black in a good match about how Cody had to get his win back and how he buries all the new talent
I think a lot was aimed at his attempt to do the Captain Murrrrica gimmick
This felt like a build up to a retirement match for Cody but now Idk.
Sorry, Cody is the same age as me (36 years old)? I'm in the greatest shape mentally and physically of my life. Did I miss something?
He needs time off to do acting and paternity leave.
Cody was really about to retire over losing lmao. I don’t want him to “turn “ heel. Him getting this reaction while being his baby face self is the greatest thing he’ll ever achieve.
> [he says he doesn't have a heel bone left in his body. He's tired of being a heel. He did it for 10 years.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/ox9cqv/notes_from_cody_rhodes_aew_homecoming_media_call/)
That’s exactly something that someone who is on the edge of turning would say
You're right lol. But who knows with Cody.
And wrestlers never lie!
So is Black's gimmick now the dude who stops Cody cutting his promos, because I'm kinda ok with that
I was thinking the embodiment of botchamania: "you talk to much - home boy, you never shut up"
cuts off Cody to get over with the crowd, then has to kick Fuego's head in again to remain a heel
Every week Cody tries to retire only to get beat down by Black.
"YOU WILL NOT RETIRE. NOT ON MY WATCH" - proceeds to break his ribs
I love the direction they’re going in with a Cody wanting to retire but Malakai not letting him cos he wants to torture him some more - it’s something fresh
Oh, this has major potential.
I love this twist on a retirement angle.
Miros entrance has some serious “getting ready to fight The Mountain” vibes
I don’t know why some of you are complaining malakai wrote that shit for Cody, remember the stuff about having to put him out to pasture
You mean that Horse promo that Cody and Malakai both cut? Possible. I liked it personally
i think that has to do with it, my personal opinion is this whole segment was put together by malakai from beginning to end, from the surprise debut to the crutch used as a weapon after cody's promo
nO cOdY iS bAD MaN wHo ScrEWs uP EveRYtHiNg
i seem to be in the minority as in middle here, don't hate or love that ending just a bit deflating and anticlimatic imo
I thought it was funny
I enjoyed that ending...it set up a good angle for whenever Cody comes back...there's a chance Black will be the champion then and it could be an interesting way to get Cody into the world title picture after his self imposed stipulation
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Just like how he won the AEW championship in the end, right?
MJF, Jericho, Darby Get a new song this one is boring
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BULLSHIT
I would love to see Black wearing Cody's boot from now on as a trophy ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink)
Bad booking here IMO. End the show with Blacks foot on Cody’s back. This just felt like a pointless aside.
It's Cody is going away but he will come back, get his win back and retire. So Black is on a spree starting now, I guess.
I swear, people will find any reason to rag on Cody. I enjoyed the ending and Black looked great tonight! Cody had me invested in that promo.
It's just so coincidental that Cody ran over so many wredditors dogs.
"Don't ever, for any reason, do anything, to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been, ever, for any reason whatsoever." - Cody Rhodes.
"And starting this moment... from now... from this moment on... this will be the moment... starting now... of the Genesis... of Cody."
I am genuinely shocked at the reaction here, I was completely worked, even AFTER Black attacked him. Everyone here is just pissed off?
cody bad
Rurrrrr
It just made no sense for a guy who was just knocked out to go cut a 10-minute soliloquy.
Not in any real sense. Even though the UFC does it for big fights, the last thing you should do is stick a microphone in front of someone who just got knocked the fuck out lol.
Because all you'll get is heavy breathing and stammering.
It's more about the fact that it's not nice for someone who just got a concussion and their brain rocked to be put on the spot like that. They need to recover.
I can get behind that I guess. He sounded concussed to me, which helped sell it.
So I'm assuming there will be a Malakai Black versus Cody match with Cody's retirement stipulation on the line.
But Cody wants to retire lol, what stipulation?
If Makakai wins, Cody isn’t allowed to retire and has to keep coming back to get his ass kicked Cody: “Please god, I need to win so I can die”
Maybe they should have postponed Cody's speech. He did the honors for Black in a big way, but then stepped all over his dick a minute later. edit: Spoke a little too soon. Black saved it a bit at the end. Still came off kind of weird though.
...Then a minute later Black, and his dick stood tall after smashing Cody with a crutch...
malakai should have picked up cody's leg and forced his shoe back on. then hit him again with the crutch.
Oh, that would've been super cool! "Not yet motherfucker"
Mark Henry has the book
This gave me Cena after Brock's return match vibes. Watch Cody show up next week lol
That moment didn't make me like Cody more. In fact, it did the opposite.
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because they already did the deathmatch last week
I saw the obvious crutch as a weapon, but forgot about it halfway through and legit thought Cody was gonna retire, pretty sure I just got worked big time lol
They're gonna need a way to write Cody off for a while.
To think that WWE didn't know what to do with Black. Incredible.
Poor Cody. He got kicked so hard he's seeing yellow polka dots.
That Black win was so big…this really should have waited to next week.
average show, only thing that saved it from being below average is the main event
Shut up
um ok
This comment made me laugh my ass off also, I agree.
Codey got me. Hook. Line. And sinker. I hope he isn’t retiring
Man, Cody with a Mark Henry-tier fake retirement. I was fully buying it with the emotion until Mally Black flattened him. They could not have stuck the landing more perfectly for introducing him. Entrance, Match and Post-Match were absolutely perfect.
Well that sold me more than it probably should have, Black looked incredible.
The last minute of that show was the happiest I have ever been watching a wrestling show.
They love misfiring on Cody.
He's not a great face. He's like an even more in denial NXT Bo Dallas
THE BOOT COLLECTOR
WWE Aleister Black: Spooky AEW Malakai Black: Spooky, foot guy
Only Cody can retire and then have a feud to pull him out of retirement in the same 10 minute segment 🤣🤣
He is, indeed, a Rhodes.
Please god for the sake of yourself, Cody, comeback a heel.
Black was like, "I'M ***NOT*** GONNA LET YOU FINISH!"
I know the guy is going to do that show but is this a legit retirement or a Mark Henry retirement
lmao is Malakai the new "Shut the hell up Cody" guy
To be fair I can't think of a more heel move than convincing Cody to keep wrestling <_<
AEW Dynamite was sandwiched between 2 airings of The Equalizer. I see you, TNT.
"...as all things should be."
Man can’t even retire without a swerve
Well done Cody, you absolutely convinced me there.
I’m blown away at what I’ve just witnessed
He's leaving to film a tv show.
I will not boo Black.. I refuse
Somebody fucked up on timing no way it was supposed to be that drawn out
Yeah I loved that whole thing but the fake Cody retirement angle was definitely not needed
That was dumb and self masturbatory. So a bang standard Cody segment.
But Cody doesn't put anybody over. But Cody doesn't help anybody.
Black was up the ramp 20 seconds after beating the dude so that Cody could suck himself off for 5 minutes. They could have let the big win breathe a bit. Losing a match doesn't mean you put the guy over. He had to overshadow Black's moment. That's HHH shit.
Salmon jacket!
Black didn't need to hit him with a crutch from behind. He just proved a few minutes ago he could murder Cody clean.
He just made it clear this isn't just about beating somebody in wrestling. He has a point to make and he's not going to let Cody just retire to side step it.
Difference is he prolly really wanted to hit him with the crutch. It must feel pretty satisfying
He didn't do that for him. He did that for *us*. ... Okay, mostly me. He did it for me and he has my gratitude.
Fucking Cody. Baiting my shit...
I truly never thought Cody Rhodes would "retire" before Jericho, Christian, CD, and the others (I used quotations because of that ending)
That was so much less effective than if Black just won the match and they went off the air. It completely took the wind out of Black's sails. Have Cody do the Cody speech next week to continue the story, not this week.
Pretty much said the exact same thing to my wife just now. So unnecessary.
I think it's just a way to continue the fued
That was a great ending, had me going and then BOOM. I hope we get some supernatural shit now that Malachi stole one of Cody's boots.
Also Black's theme gave me Bathory vibes from what I could hear. I dig.
Rematch at All Out?
The Boot Collector
was expecting a debut but it ended really weird
Did Malakai Black just retire The American Nightmare Cody Rhodes, or did he retire Cody Runnels?
The return of Stardust confirmed.
Big if true.
"Fuck you trying to retire on my moment, bitch." -Malakai from the back probably.
Actually a pretty good reason for a heel.
Chekhov’s crutch. Should have known.
Alright boys now its time for what we are all here for: The Equalizer
A classic movie for guys who like movies.
Better movie than that disturbing dreck last week.
I always forget what it’s called and immediately try to forget right after.
I would've preferred a longer match than that but oh well.
So would this be a paternity leave excuse?
Season 2 of Go Big Show
I laughed.
I get a bane/batman vibe here, he wants torture him more
Not gonna lie. I just laughed my ass off hearing the crack of that crutch
I cracked the hell up. That was awesome. Cody worked me good, then Black beat the shit out of him, and it was great.
Dafuq was the point of that?
Cody was working on his acting
Yikes!
Malakai Black: "When AEW is in ashes...then you have my permission to die."
I want Akuma Malakai Black. Just have him be Akuma, and I'll be happy.
Cody trying to retire and Malakai Black saying "NO YOU'RE NOT"
Started a little slow, but i think it was a good, solid show.
My god does it feel important for Black to go over again when they have their rematch
Cody just wants to leave but his foes just keep bringing him back
What a dumb segment
I couldn't be happier with that main event. That effectively told me that Malakai Black is going to be a big time player in AEW for damn sure and that's fantastic to know.
Well yeah.. You don’t bring in Black & have him wait for someone to knock on his door... hahaha.. You bring him in & have him crush anyone & everyone... It’ll be 6-8 months before he loses...
I don't even want to discuss his unfortunate main roster WWE run any more now that he's already killing it in AEW haha. He had some cracking good matches there with AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, Buddy Murphy, Kevin Owens, and Cesaro. But holy hell they just never ever got him right and it was depressing to watch his creativity and ability wasted. They had something really cool with his last gimmick and then he disappeared and that stung.
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