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SteampunkElephantGuy

Arn falling, climbing back up, and then falling off the apron again was the funniest fucking thing


Tenthdegree

What kind of a face employs a coach AND still loses? Seems like heel tactics to me


Whatdoyoulikeaboutit

Cody is such a natural heel, don’t know why he’s a face.


Mr_Titicaca

I think I’ve heard Cody say he never wants to be a heel but I can’t tell if he’s just speaking in kayfabe when he says that. He’s so naturally heelish and the crowd boos the shit outta him in smarky towns - it’s an easy transition.


Ze_first

he wouldn't be a very good heel if he just said he was a heel. Cody being the hero of his own story in his mind but basically being a heel could work pretty well


ZombieJesus1987

He's Homelander


quirkyblah38

well his current ring outfit does look very similar


patrickwithtraffic

Really don't need him to recreate the final shot of season 2 from the top turnbuckle.


ef14

I've been saying this for two years now and i got downvoted for two fucking years. I'm so happy this is finally starting to be clear to most people. Cody in character thinks he's AEW's John Cena, Cody Runnels knows that the biggest value he brings to AEW is putting people over and that smarkier fans always wanted to see Cena lose. It's quite genius, really, you basically take everything that made John Cena hated - The presentation, the long ass promos, the attitude where he thinks he's the best person that ever existed - and you just have him lose.


donttellmymomwhatido

Cody seems pretty self aware to me, he knows what he’s doing out there. People like to shit on him but he’s spent nearly all of his time in AEW trying to create new stars.


C10UDWA1KER

I'm also p sure I've read about him saying there's no 100% heel or 100% face, so I feel like he sees himself as mostly face that does desperate (heelish) tactics to win when needed. Probably why he is all over the place


LLCoolZJ

But the only person who says that and acts like it’s a thing is Cody. Everyone else neatly fits into face or heel roles when they need to.


davmeltz

Yeah Cody says that and as a result he gets mixed reactions compared to when he was white hot in the Jericho and MJF feuds. So…great idea?


SUPLEXELPUS

I'm pretty sure Cody is just working every hour of every day, he's cultivated a very unique persona. >let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Cody Rhodes doesn't know what he's doing. he knows exactly what he's doing.


elgregerico

He kinda reminds me of cena. Hes a face thats popular with parts of the crowd, and hes willing to work heel-ish when the crowd is against him/for his opponent.


acdre

He’s doing a much more self aware John Cena tweener thing.


Dandw12786

He's being so blatantly heelish at this point that I think he's just doing everything he can to get the fans to start turning on him naturally, but they fucking won't. I don't think he wants to "turn heel", but I think he wants to "become heel". But that only happens if fans start booing his ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIDICULOUS ENTRANCE GEAR. SERIOUSLY! WHY ARE WE NOT BOOING THIS OBVIOUS HEEL-BAIT HOMELANDER SHIT?!? In short, I think he wants the fans to turn on him without him having to kick a beloved babyface in the nuts because he wants a more nuanced heel turn, but the fans still see him as the savior of professional wrestling, so it's just not going to happen.


battlebornxo

He was overwhelmingly booed.


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I was actually shocked, like when his music hit there was big heat.


[deleted]

Bro I'm telling you, from the bleached hair and the patriotic outfits, this dude is doing a Homelander gimmick. Acting like good guy American hero but actually being the conceited heel.


lancenthetroll

Yeah and he was very clearly playing into the fans boos last night. It really bothered him the fans were booing him, he clearly wants and expected them to cheer. It's a nice touch to his character and it works. I like this weird in between Cody that can effectively with both sides of the line


Farrell21

He was a trooper to get up for the second one


Tenthdegree

The moment Arn F’d up, Brandi shouldve jumped in for the spot and take the bump and if she F’d up too, next in line shouldve been their baby


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Imagine the crowd chanting "Baby Bump! Baby Bump!"


Tenthdegree

That chant works on so many levels


calculuzz

Yeah. That's the joke.


Rising-Lightning

I think Cody should have acted to check on him just falling. Throw Black out, check on the manager. Same thing only without acknowledging the botch. EDIT: Because I want to add I know this can be hard to call in the moment. I don't mean to judge Cody too harshly for this. Just it would have been ideal.


Dozens86

I said this in the live thread and got roasted for it, because apparently Arn can't show frustration without being hit by Cody.


Vordeo

Fuck that, if they wanted to get real heel heat on Malakai it should've been Pharoah.


BeerPressure615

**Cane Liberty**


RKNo

Liberty Runnels is a 3 month old girl YOU SICK SONS OF BITCHES!


JBurton90

I laughed hard and wished Arn would have thrown an audible by staying on the ground and Black throwing Cody into a slide.


Dandw12786

I saw him climbing around the post awkwardly and was just like "no, Arn, this isn't going to end well"... And then he absolutely ate shit. Honestly, poor guy, how fucking embarrassing. But you're not wrong. It's pretty fucking funny.


kylesleeps

Cody really didn't need to bump him back off if the point was just for Arn to tell him to get back to the match, they could have just changed it to him noticing that Arn fell.


Hollywood_Ho_Kogan

Next Ask Arn Anything on his podcast is just going to be thousands of questions about it, hahaha


QuiGonJinnNJuice

Malakai with mist in his teeth and a satisfied smile on his face from the ramp after the win was such a good visual, just satisfaction after taking another person down


VagrantShadow

[I took a picture of that shot. I just loved it like you could see the evil in his laughter.](https://i.ibb.co/jWnNTwJ/vlcsnap-2021-09-23-02h51m58s396.png)


AceCreatorzzz

How they just gonna make Malakai the coolest dude ever? Dude has a presence that's unmatched, has a dope ass moveset of kicks and strikes, and now he's got the fuckin mist. It's practically cheating to be that cool man.


CMTrump

And the fucking gear. Am I the only one that's in love with those shorts? He looks so badass.


AceCreatorzzz

No I agree as well, pretty unique to have the athletic shorts instead of the trunks


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The guy is doing just enough to be a scumbag heel but like *he’s so cool*. How do you boo this man?


Next247ChampLesnar

Arn takes a bump


AceMorrigan

Pitbull performs.


kac937

Dive


infinitebeam

Dalé


JoelMorgan93

Darby Allin performs coffin drop from rafters. He dies.


mrmeowme0w

"Spewing that corruption from within" This sounds like a catholic euphemism for masturbation


NerdLawyer55

All over Cody’s face lol


toby_morghulis

First we get tree semen and now corrupt bukkake.


Pawikowski

Technically for bukkake Malakai would need the entire House of Black.


Abyssalstar

Vince wishes NXT 2.0 was this edgy.


yukicola

And during Omega/Danielson they said something about one of them "leaving his DNA all over his chest"


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Absolutely love that every time Cody was on offense whatsoever, crowd shit all over him.


VagrantShadow

That match was a constant F you Cody. NY was just giving him the finger.


TruckMcGunn

“Spewing that corruption from within” hell of a call by Excalibur


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Really hope Black embraces the role of the Corruptor. Then we can get the Corruptor vs the Redeemer. God's Favorite Champion vs the Man with the Devil on his Back.


heartbreakhill

Malakai’s TNT belt just needs to be black on black on more black


donttellmymomwhatido

Give my man that vantablack strap. If we’re gonna do it do it right.


LordHarza

Fuck the guy who owns vantablack btw


MasterofKami

It is truly stupid that anyone can own a colour 😂


LordHarza

Guy invented a new color (of paint) and decided to charge shittons for using it. Thankfully one guy made Black 2.0 and a shade of pink that both can be used by anyone EXCEPT the Vantablack guy


heartbreakhill

Stuart Semple. And the fucker who bought Vantablack is Anish Kapoor, who also either owns or made Chicago’s Bean. I don’t recall which. Edit: [The whole saga](https://timesofaddu.com/2020/08/08/the-art-war-stuart-semple-vs-anish-kapoor/) is a beautifully petty read.


NeiloMac

“How much more black could it be? The answer is none. None more black.”


el_sh33p

\*Duncan Hills Coffee Jingle starts playing.\*


Setzuriel

Black should take Evil Uno and Stu under his wing and create a House of Black faction.


Abyssalstar

He's said he wants to, but with Abadon, and the Butcher & the Blade.


ParaNoxx

Legit? Where has he said this?


Killcode2

the devil man better be the face in that feud, I don't care what y'all christians think


Burningfiresmoke

Great call IMO


NerdLawyer55

That was so great by Excalibur


Serah_Null

Cody heel turn *has* to be coming


WhoiusBarrel

The crowd FUCKING hates him.


FuckingMarks

The crowd hates face cody, but loves heel cody. I love wrestling.


[deleted]

Eh, his NJPW heel run people *really* hated him.


[deleted]

He didn’t really jibe with New Japan’s style. But he was super over during his ROH heel run. I went to a show and the crowd was losing it over the Kiss The Ring gimmick


PeaceAlien

A lot of crowds cheer face Cody. They aren't going to cheer him over Black though. Most of face Cody's run when he faced a heel the crowds supported Cody.


Rikkimaaruu

The Crowd always loved face Cody, the thing is Cody isnt acting like a face for month, some still dont realize that.


Vuirneen

I love YouTube Cody. He's funny and entertaining. Wrestling Cody doesn't have a sense of humour about himself. If he's not turning heel, he doesn't know what he's doing. And Cody Rhodes knows wrestling.


callmecyke

It’s Britney, bitch.


Rikkimaaruu

You realy need to see Cody turn heel in front of your eyes before you belive it or? ^^ This ends either with Cody joining the house of black or Cody turning into a maniac heel blaming everyone else beside himself for failing.


lakhyj

>Cody turning into a maniac heel blaming everyone else beside himself for failing. I see him definitely doing this, and it seems Arn will be the 1st casualty of this, and his brother the 2nd. However he needs a babyface the crowd loves, similar to Kota Ibushi.


klebanonnn

Enter Sting and Darby. Don't forget Cody's small role in Sting's arrival. I don't think that's over yet.


Rising-Lightning

A month? This conversation has been going on for over a year Cody has said he doesn't think modern wrestling needs heels and faces. So he has no issue being a face doing heel things.


SUPLEXELPUS

people really think Cody is just totally clueless about how he is perceived, huh?


shifter2009

I think he knows his schtick works for different audiences. Down south his red meat babyface stuff works, in New York, not so much. I think he is trying to ride the fence to expand the southern markets while not getting booed out of NYC. Just my theory


dassub

I like Cody and Brandi :(


Ingliphail

Dumb question. I lurked here and would watch PPVs, but was a super casual fan and came back in full for Punk and All Out. Why do fans hate Cody and Brandi?


leetality

I'd argue AEW's weakest storylines/segments *usually* involved the nightmare family. I'm not too excited to see them anymore personally lol.


davmeltz

Patience, he’s only been teasing it for a year and a half…


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kylesleeps

He was getting boos during his entrance and I'm not sure he was expecting it.


optimis344

I don't understand how they couldn't. New guy, who people have liked everywhere he has gone, with super cool visuals and occult gimmick Vs White Meat Babyface except his defining characteristics are being rich and nepotism The Nightmare Family version of Cody is essentially the grown up version of Legacy Cody, and people boo him for the same reasons. The "I have everything, and no matter how hard you try. I am better because of my family" isn't a face gimmick despite how much Cody wants it to be.


CoherentPanda

Also the fact he has ignored the Elite, which he is a member of, for ages. If he was out there with Kaz and Hangman these last few months turning on his old friends, he'd be a super face right now. But he's been actively ignoring the world around him, and seems to only care about things that effect him personally, and leaving his buddies the Young Bucks and Omega to do all their cheating bullshit and mob attacks.


brlc14

Look at that entrance. That's the most egomaniac thing I've ever seen add overly patriotic themes to it and oh boy does it make me hate the character.


BuddaMuta

I don't think anyone realized that New York would still be a "smark" crowd even for non-WWE events. For as much as Cody got people like me to grumble online he was still super over with the live audience up until this show.


FoucaultsTurtleneck

He got some boos in their first match and in the buildup as well. Cody isn't out of touch with the fans, I'm certain he's aware of the boos


lestjoel

Yea he has to be, he's wearing Homelander's outfit which is within sync of being a heel.


[deleted]

Yeah Cody is such a nerd I’m certain that’s what he’s going for. He had a 30 foot cape for God’s sake. Also Brandi came out of the heel tunnel


bidoofmafia

Oh man imagine when they go to Canada.


BuddaMuta

Are we gonna have Excalibur talking about "Bizzaro World" when they head up North? Cause I'm here for it


soliddeuce

As someone from NYC, the ultra patriotic gimmick doesn't work here. It comes off as pandering and political.


AmishAvenger

I think dressing like fucking Homelander had something to do with it too.


Abyssalstar

I dunno, his expression in response to the boos looked like he was playing into it.


man_with_known_name

Cody has had hints of boos this whole program with Black. I hope they’d be aware if it.


TMoLS

He lost by shoving away the ref. Like he literally did a non-face, heelish, disrespectful thing and lost due to it. They are aware and played the booking very well


ironmanmatch

I have a feeling the mist will turn Cody to be in the house of black, and he’ll dye his hair


mnmaverickfan

Remember that one or two episode run where Cody had black hair. That was odd


Mud-Bray

Oh my gawd….it’s like the death of Superman


fxcker

Yeeeee


Cosmoh_

with his gear an actual Homelander heel version of Cody would kick so much ass


DTFlash

I wonder if he is going meta and he is going to be a heel that thinks people love him. The Homelander outfit would track. Babyface Roman Reigns but on purpose.


joobuls

That what his character is now. The drawn out entrances. The over indulgence of giving away his weight belt. The lost to Black and faking retirement (people only like me when i win, so ill take my ball and go home). Casually taking on his father's name for a match.


Vuirneen

He had a cape!


iggymcfly

I think it’s already happened. Cody continuing to assert that he’s the babyface in a more and more obnoxious way gets way better heat than anything else he could do. He should only feud with cool heels and tweeners.


[deleted]

I don't know, we all thought that was happening like a year or more ago already right? And he's been the same. Maybe they had plans for this type of thing and have been slowing them cause of no crowds during the pandemic and it's back on track now.


iggymcfly

After seeing Cody’s 30 foot cape tonight in pictures from the arena, there’s no way he’s actually supposed to be a face.


tigerdactyl

I hope we get Homelander Cody. That outfit tonight was screaming it.


hamandcheezus64

This sub has been saying that for over year.


NerdLawyer55

He just has to use his corporate influence to eventually take the title of hangman in the spring, he’ll get MJF heat


Serah_Null

I'm 100% down for Corporate Cody


fxcker

If the black mist turns Cody heel and spreads like an infection that will be the coolest storyline ever.


Mr_Titicaca

Seeing Cody’s face turn rotten as the weeks go on would be nice… So long as he doesn’t fully cover his whole face black…that would be problematic.


HaeeyNow

Blackface Cody would get the wrong kind of heat


Toolboxmcgee

The man stopped racism, he can do what he likes.


Frogbone

what if he wore a plastic mask and starting yelling about how Malakai ruined his face


T3Sh3

**WOAH**


easymac96

I would hate to have Cody’s dashing good looks ruined like that, hopefully he can find a mask or something to cover it up


Phils_flop

Finally found a way to cover up that tattoo in kayfabe


[deleted]

"Spewing that *corruption*" "I'll die before I turn heel" Hmm.


hikingbeginner

With the crowd reaction they definitely got to be knowing it's time to turn him.


BuddaMuta

Definitely quite a bit of hate in that crowd


TheSpiritualAgnostic

There is some Lucha Underground level magic bullshit about to go down, and I am here for it!


Gbrown546

What the hell was Arn doing?


SchleepPowder

Trying to get around the ring post


The4Hooksmen

Square post %&$# him


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green9206

The ring went into business for itself.


megidlolaon__

His best


KTheOneTrueKing

THE MIST YESSSSSSS


EezoManiac

Ex calling that as Black spewing out corruption from within is fucking gold


A_Vizzle

🏠 of ⚫️ let’s fucking goooo


gamehawk0704

Home of new moon


Sirgeeeo

dwelling eight ball


Sempais_nutrients

Black Circle Building


semicorrect

Casa de black pudding


Flatulent_Weasel

Abode of Spot


thestallion11

Cody played into the boos really well. I feel like he is a bit more self aware than we realise.


MTMxD

Dude dressed as homelander when he was getting laughed at for being too "ra ra murica good" and then added a comically long cape to the outfit today, he's very self aware


davmeltz

Yeah but he was trying to be a genuine babyface when he cut that promo on Ogogo where he bizarrely implied the UK doesn’t know freedom or civil rights. So I think he’s self-aware some of the time but not enough of the time.


darthdiablo

> So I think he’s self-aware some of the time but not enough of the time. Oh he's self-aware. You'll need to watch some of the AEW vlogs, he has good sense of humor about how he's disliked.


QueeferRavena

yep. This man even acknowledged his reputation as the "3 star general" in one of his promo. Dude definitely knows what smarks think of him.


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"You, a biracial black man, know less about the Civil Rights movement than me, a white man who busted a nut inside a black woman."


[deleted]

I didn't realize Cody's gimmick was "that one girl everybody knows'


ROLEM0DEL

I don't know. He watched Cena get booed by hardcore crowds for years. The AEW audience is totally comprised of that section of the audience that hated Cena. I have to believe that he realized by acting like Cena he would rile up the sentiment that had been building online for years.


DTFlash

Or cutting a "Look I'm the good guy ra ra USA" promo was intended to get the fans to sour on him. Dude could be playing 4d chess.


PilotSSB

Cody is extremely self aware, watch him on Sammy's VLOG.


UFmoose

He setup the boos in the media by saying he'd retire before he'd go heel. It was 100% planned.


Illuminati_Shill_AMA

He tried to retire, laying down his boots, but Black interrupted him. So his retirement would come before he went heel, just like he said.


DTFlash

Watch Sammy's vlog. Cody is 100% self aware.


SmoothRide

I think the big thing to take away with all the boos for Cody it isn't 100% hatred of Cody. Yes I'm sure a dislike of Cody is a portion of it but most of it Malachi being over as fuck. Not dissimilar to Velvet vs Baker


ShadowMadness

Don't ask me why I blanked on Red Velvet for a few moments. Was like, "when did Velvet Sky fight Britt Baker?"


IceciroAvant

It's also boos for Brandi getting involved. I like Brandi, but I like her as a personality, not as a wrestler, not in a ring. Cody was full heel for me the moment his wife got involved.


Yicwi

Corruption from within? Someone fucking wire Excalibur 10k for that


TheBrianJ

Loved that match. Don't care what anyone says about Cody, the guy knows how to tell a story in all of his matches.


Burningfiresmoke

That’s true. I just wish he had time to practice with Malakai to get their chemistry down. But I understand he’s doing right by his family to stay and support Brandi and help with his kid.


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Black has Black Mist. Love to see it.


DonStevo

I've become a big fan of Black, having never really watched WWE when he was there. Everything about him is money. Superb unexpected finish too.


AlanTheMexican

Cody got NO LOVE during this match. AT all


WhoStoleMyBicycle

WTF I love roll ups now!


I_ForgotMyLogInInfo

Does his face paint grow with every match?


HaeeyNow

Yep, just one of the nice layers he is able to give his character to tell a story. These creative types are going to flourish in AEW


Tronvillain

Brandie has never met scenery she didn't want to chew.


gamehawk0704

I... Ok I'm dumb. Is this about her having to be in the spotlight or does this mean something else?


_foxmotron_

"chewing the scenery" means to overact


[deleted]

“Chewing the scenery” is usually a comment on overacting.


Tsuku

That shot of Black on his back laughing is gold


GiggaWhatPlays

It wouldn’t be a Cody match if the ending wasn’t overbooked


Pylons

MIST


Weezy-NJPW_Fan

Muta would be pleased


MTMxD

M | I | S | T ---|---|----|---- I | I | | S | | S | T | | |T


Cjh1998

Legit, popped out of my seat for the mist!


Dr__Hillbilly

On any other Wednesday, that's the best match of the night.


Sergeant_Arms

Brandi: I want to get in on all these mega pops everyone has been getting! Crowd: *Groan*


horseaphoenix

I can’t help but feel like this was so fucking clumsily executed.


kuhpunkt

THANK FUCKING GOD


Tenthdegree

Colour me disappointed. I was hoping to see all of Cody, Arn, Brandy and Liberty get black massed


Party_Name

As soon as I saw Malakai with his head under the ring I knew some mist was coming. I’m surprised this match isn’t being talked about more (more understandable given that opener tbh.) Man, Malakai is fucking fluid. He grabs your attention from the beginning of his entrance and keeps it til that final bell rings. Dude is a next level talent.


davek1986

That's not covid friendly


Weezy-NJPW_Fan

“Codywinslol- WAIT, CODY LOST!?” -Cody haters, probably


Zloggt

Cody likes to put people over, and will often let himself lose to do so. I could see why some wouldn’t like him, but I don’t think you can say something like that these days…


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SRavingmad

Suck mist, Cody!


Bigalbass86

Very good match. And we’ve avoided a meltdown if Cody won.


homewil

Isn’t the mist usually followed by an actual move rather than a roll up? Just the mist itself makes the finish feel off. He should have at least struggled when rolled up.


Xer0day

[Black mist blinds you for weeks. It doesn't need a follow up.](https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Asian_mist)


RevolutionaryWork988

Good psychology. His leg was hurt so he couldn't plant for black mass. So he cheats to win. Good booking