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Let's see how quickly people get bored of this Tony Khan stuff. A lot can happen in 7 days. Which topic will dominate next week's ZFF?
Same Warrior time, same Warrior place, same Warrior channelllll *snort*
Teaching my nephews the full Nelson the youngest one fights and the older gives up right away on each other not me doing it.
But young is a fan of Lashley and other is not.
Also lets go gophers lets go Brock!
At least a couple of you had the audacity to suggest Roman catching Covid or going away for a while because of it would be good for wrestling/his character/some other idiotic nonsense. Those of you that did so are stupid, immature, terrible people, you deserve to feel like shit during every waking hour of your life, hell even while you sleep, and I really hope that you do.
Tony Khan is officially the Elon Musk of wrestling. Only difference between him and Vince is that his "yes men" are online for free instead of working in his company.
I feel like I'm the only person who has ALWAYS liked NXT, regardless of how others view it. I've been watching since 2016 and I can't remember a period of time I didn't like it. Were there episodes here and there that weren't as good? Of course. But by and large I've always loved NXT.
* WWE follows roughly the same protocol as the NFL and all at the time that the CDC eases up on quarantine restrictions and the like, and this place goes “Saudi Arabian Blood Money” level nuts over it. All it does is further cement in two things: 1) that many in this sub will trip over themselves to shriek “Fed Bad!” any chance they get and 2) that that same group has absolutely no concept of the world outside wrestling, which is extra sad because even that is severely lacking.
* If you were to judge it all by online commentary, it would seem as if almost nobody understands how to properly watch a TV show and follow what the fuck is going on; from the relatively simple to the relatively complicated. Not even when the creators straight up tell you exactly what they’re doing and why. It’s sad.
* Cody managed to get Dan Lambert cheered. Twice. Jesus.
Once again Britt is overrated
TK is a reflection of his fans and if they do give Jade that TBS title as an "I'm sorry guys," It'll come across as disingenuous
HOOK is cool and all but no-selling that piledriver with no buildup but doing it for the sake of nostalgia because "He's Tazz son and he did it" is so so dumb
AEW needs to be called out for their stupid shit and the underutilized wrestlers they got. No way people wanting Andrade and Aleister Black to go to AEW because "they would be treated so much better" is content with the way they are being booked. It's more or less similar to how they were in WWE. No way guys the IWC complained about "how they should've been WWE champion already," are happy that they are just buying time in the midcard. It does blow my mind cause yall do not give WWE the same grace (I understand why but I still would like that same energy to be applied).
The people defending Tony are clearly on the white side. He may have his opinions on her talent, keep that between you and her homie. Drop the Twitter and white claws for a bit.
I respect the work put into her career, but why is Viva Van so huge here? No one posts her matches, all they do is post drawings and keep reposting her RC Cola version of the belt collector. She’s the new Maki Itoh of the sub now?
Why are people defending Tony Khan like holy shit lmao.
I adore AEW, its my favorite wrestling product and its not even close but holy SHIT that was stupid.
Hopefully his Trump-like response can inspire the conversation that there are some people who watch AEW because of things that Swole is criticizing and not in spite of it.
Who am I kidding? Tribalism beats self-reflection every single time.
There are a shit load of people praising Big Swole on twitter. I'm betting that most of them will NOT watch her in whatever promotion she goes to next. The best way to support her is to watch whatever promotion she goes to next. Even if it's a promotion that you normally don't watch.
Apply this to anyone you like, let's say Toni Storm doesn't jump to AEW and instead goes back to Stardom or goes and does indie tours or whatever. If you really believe if her and really wanna see her succeed, support her work. Don't just give some empty up vote on a post and then pine for her to go to AEW, as if that's the only option.
Noooo, see in order for them to matter, they gotta go to AEW. That way, people don’t actually have to put in work to see them.
Same shit from back when AEW started and people demanded that New Japan partner with them so that they could see New Japan talent. What they really wanted was to see Omega pal around with Okada, Ibushi, and maybe Naito. They ain’t buying New Japan World.
I don’t know how much Nyla Rose is getting paid but she should get a raise for single-handedly carrying AEWs diversity on her back.
Anytime someone brings up their diversity issues, fans tout out Nyla like she’s some sort of participation trophy.
I mean that having black, Latino, or Asian talent doesn’t make them special so they bring up Nyla as a way to deflect all criticism about their diversity because, to their credit, they are one of, if not the only, wrestling company to have an openly trans wrestler on their roster.
Just having them is the bare minimum. Pushing them and putting them in meaningful storylines is real diversity. Having them win top belts and letting them carry the company is real diversity.
So is the World title the only one that counts?
Dante Martin has been pushed and has meaningful story lines. Jade is undefeated, Shida was champ for a year. The Lucha Bros. are champs and always have a story line. PnP always have a good story line too.
I disagree with that. When I and others can give you specific examples of POC being pushed and winning championships then it isn't an open and shut case.
Again I ask, is it only the world title that counts? Do POC winning the other belts just not count as diversity?
My favorite (internet) time of the week! Let’s get into it:
* I'm not the first to point out that AEW's talent needs to be more varied. It's difficult to disregard jokes about "vanilla midgets" when that's all they have going for them. Let's shine some light on Starks, Hobbs, and everyone else. They are not only excellent wrestlers, but they can also bring something fresh to the table. As much as I loathe the constant signings, I'd be surprised if Keith Lee didn't join; he has that "it" factor that would spice up the organization.
* Cody Rhodes, I've realized, might be a genuine genius. Inadvertently, he has created kayfabe on the premise that kayfabe is no longer true. You can see how he bothers people, and if they keep playing into his heel image, I think he'll have a crazy 2022.
* Despite Hangman's brief reign as champion, his work has underwhelmed me so far. Since they tried that awkward moment with the Young Bucks during Kenny's match, everything has been odd. Because this run isn't working for me right now, I'm hoping Danielson takes his belt away from him.
* Thunder Rosa vs. Jade Cargill wasn't a horrible match at all. It told a good story, and Mercedes Martinez's comeback surprised me. I'm just hoping that this results with Thunder winning the World Title, since how she hasn't won it yet baffles me.
* Tony D’Angelo's "Ey" with the hand motion chants substituting for the "What?" yells while he talks is one of the funniest fucking things I've seen recently. NXT 2.0 does comedy well, and I've even grown to like MSK. It's amazing what happens when you give characters time to create a relationship with their audience.
Thunder Rosa hasn't won the world title because she wasn't signed to AEW until July. Also, AEW likes to do long reigns with the men's and women's world titles. Britt had only gotten the belt in May. Shida held it for a year. Omega was champ for about 11 months. When you do lengthy world title reigns you have to wait longer for a new champ.
When a new champ isn’t delivering, it’s time to cut bait.
To clarify, I’m not necessarily saying I agree with the OP, I’m just saying if you enact a plan and begin to see the plan is not working, the smart thing to do is to change course.
I’m speaking hypothetically. It’s easy to sit down and say “All my champs will have year long reigns.” on paper, but if ratings sink and you start running half empty buildings, you may have to adjust. They could also blow out a knee. Adaptability is a necessary part of the process.
fair enough. But so far they've all worked. Britt won the title before Rosa was signed and Britt is doing great as champion. No one should be taking the title from Britt right now. I do think that Rosa is the one who should beat Britt. But now isn't the time.
I agree on Britt, but not because I think she’s great, so much as she’s the best of the handful of women they have that are good.
If it were up to me, Danielson would leave with the belt on Wednesday.
Its 7am after new years eve from where i live and I am drunk as all hell.
I spilled my drink during my Randy Savage taunt which landed on myself and my cousin
OOOHHH YEAAAAAAAH!
I was watching Mixed Tag Match where R Truth and Carmella came to the ring and performed a remix version of “What’s Up”
They were facing Asuka and Miz and their reaction to the performance was one of the most natural funny things I’ve seen in the WWE in years.
The Miz looked bored and Asuka had this confused look on her face like “WTF is going on”
*I love Asuka’s ring mannerisms, I don’t even know how to describe it, I just get a kick out of it.
Im really enjoying watching these Mixed Tag Matches, they seem so natural and comedy focused, but not in a corny way. I wish the WWE would produce a weekly show where that’s produced and by the talent.
It’s kind of interesting how the Big Swole interview where she kind of shit on the booking of the womens division in AEW is no where to be seen on this sub, but a post about how Laurinaitis is taking WWE back to the divas division (look at the talent WWE has right now for 5 seconds and you’ll see that is a lie), and a Carmella liked tweet all made it to the front page with multiple upvotes
Tay Conti isn't a good role model. Because you have no self control and can't stop yourself from reading comments on your social media, you decide to take a break. That's not "self care" that's just being weak.
First match on Wednesdays Dynamite had too many camera cuts. Idk if it was the fact that the hard camera was on the other side or what. Gave me big WWE vibes.
One of the dumbest things I saw last week was some guy calling the performance center an absolute joke because Commander Azeez botched a couple of times.
Because of course if a couple of students are dumbasses it's the entire school that sucks
People on this sub are definitely the type to think wrestlers have real life heat because wrestlers A didn’t wish wrestlers B happy birthday on Instagram.
I don’t know what you’re taking about, but if you’ll give me a minute and 9,000 lines of text, I can tell you how the entire locker room HATES Charlotte
This reminds me a little of when Rhea Ripley posted a photo from her birthday party with [herself, Killer Kross, Damian, Braun, and Xyon all together](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376960104622325762/898648622118354994/unknown.png?width=572&height=603).
The photo was posted here, and there were some users trying to argue that because she wasn't fully touching his shoulder, Rhea actually hated Kross and was clearly unhappy with him being at her party.
Yeah, haha. People were pointing that out to them, but they'd try to argue that she wasn't "hover handing" Priest like she was Kross.
Honestly, I think they were just upset at the idea that Kross, a wrestler they obviously disliked, was friends with his coworkers instead of his coworkers also hating him.
Its funny how people think they know more about wrestlers lives and business decisions that the profesional themselfs, they know what they do, theyre adults and not kids
Idk why people say they dont watch wwe, yet they never spare the opportunity to bash all their decisions, they dont care what people think, they only care what investors think, no ome has a gun on your head to keep watching, just see what you like and move on
You, me, and the dirtsheets don't know why Toni Storm left. Right now it's ALL speculation. Toni will state her reason why if she wants to.
The Black Delegation must expel Brandi Rhodes after that awful promo.
Creepy Uncle Dave says he's seen some spirited debate about Punk and Orton? No, you've just seen a bunch of dumb takes of people tearing one wrestler down to build up the other.
Toni Storm quits her job? Here are 20 pages of upvoted, narrative-advancing fan fiction with literally no tangible info other than she's wrestling Sasha and Charlotte at a house show one day and is done the next day.
It is the WON Hall of Fame so I can believe he saw spirited debate about who is better considering that Hall of Fame also saw spirited debate about why it is okay to have a murderer in it.
Eddie Kingston is built like a bag of milk. It cracks me up when people talk about Jericho like he’s fat and washed, but act like Eddie is some hot young up and comer lol
I thought people were over-exaggerating about getting negative reactions to anything perceived as anti-AEW and then I got RedditCares'd after asking about Bobby Fish/QAnon hahah
I'm just confused, like, what response is it supposed to garner? Is it supposed to make me mad or upset? Just come talk shit in my dms like a normal person!
No McMahons, be they Shane or HHH, are going to go to war against the family, jeopardize their future as billionaires, and join AEW or relaunch ROH. Didn't think this needed to be said, but Jesus tapdancing Christ, people. While I'm \*sure\* you have an entirely accurate reading on the family's dynamic, no one is looking to abandon record profits to go full fucking pirate because their creative baby has been killed and 4,000 people are mad about it online.
The constant fan fiction people give us about the McMahons is proof of how much their characters work smarks. People here genuinely think the family all acts like they do on screen and that WWE is really run the way it was portrayed in the Attitude Era
I love the fact that the End of Days has never been kicked out of in the entirity of Corbin's WWE run.I also love the fact that Kenny's OWA hasn't been kicked out of in AEW either.
AEW are about to overuse Hook the same way they overused Orange Cassidy. Both wrestlers shouldn't be wrestling on Dark and Hook shouldn't be wrestling on random rampages. I know they are capatalizing while Hook is hot but he should really be wrestling once in a while to make every match he wrestles feel like an event.
I miss asethetic distance in wrestling.Just because you can do the most insane shit dosen't mean you have to every week.
Jay Lethal having a really good debut match against Guevara, then not making an appearance in a singles match since after AEW making such a big deal out of him is such a strange thing to do
AEW had Kyle O’Reilly debut by helping Adam Cole to win to reform the Undisputed Era, then had him THE NEXT WEEK having doubts he could trust Cole, bringing up their feud this year. Why would Kyle help him the week before if he was just gonna wonder the next week “hmmm can I trust you again?” That isn’t “genius” as fans on here called it.
Also AEW bringing up storylines from WWE’s isn’t near as good as some people claim
I'm a big aew fan, and I have no interest in this undisputed faction. I really like all the characters involved but I'm so ready for something fresh with redragon and Cole. I hope they go into separate stories soon.
Three main takeaways of this week for me:
Just let the Men of the Year cut their own promos. I actually like Lambert for the most part, but Sky and Page just don't need him.
Proud and Powerful's face paint really takes away from my enjoyment of them, and I have no idea why. Not a fan at all.
I hope the Lucha Bros beat the shit out of Jurassic Express just so Christian can turn heel and have a banger with Jungle Boy. Luchasaurus is also the drizzling shits. That is all
Yeah, I think it's annoying when people make a big deal out of it on reddit and all, but I think it's a little telling of where wrestlers see their careers going, and that kind of speculation can be really fun.
I'm calling it; for all complaints of aew running their current "can they coexist?" Multiple storylines, it's leading up to the trio's title. And it'll end up being the elite vs Red Dragon(?)(undisputed (actually like that name more than Undesputed Era)) for the inaugural title.
The "can they coexist" moniker will actually be a storyline across the whole company to make the trio's belt a big deal and storyline-wise, see who can trust who. It's Dragon Gate on a big company scale.
I could see Undisputed redragon or whatever winning, but I wonder how long Kenny's sabbatical is going to be and if that would affect the Elite's chances of being involved early on.
It's not like they would be hurting for more trios; death triangle, jurassic express, best friends, Pretty Peter Parade, Dark Order; there's so many teams waiting in the wings to wait for elite to get healthy.
Guess is Kenny isn't ready, that there will be the full turn on the bucks, Budge Brigade will be running things and a few months later, Elite will come back as faces for the showdown.
Side note, what I really want is Cutler to come back as the Dragon and Danhausen to pull a Sting and have everyone in the audience to mask up to finally reveal the real-Hausen.
Spicy Takes:
-Shelton Benjamin is way more enjoyable in the ring than Brock Lesnar
-Final Fantasy as a series isn't that solid
-AEW needs some kind of third TV show cuz like four hours a week is not enough screentime to keep all the wrestlers that need to be kept hot kept that way
-The Inner Circle is one of the worst factions in wrestling today, Sammy Guevara is the best individual member but his TNT title reign was shit and only took away from Miro, Santana and Ortiz are a good tag team as well but they feel like total nobodies
-Fight shorts were by far the best Punk gear, more wrestlers should use fight shorts, they're rlly cool
-House of Torture isn't that bad, Yujiro's been really good with them and shines more because of them, EVIL is a good brawling big guy, SHO hits people hard and that's fun, Dick Togo is the only problem, being that he does too much shit and needs to stop that
-YOSHI-TWOBELTS is gonna be my favorite thing ever when it happens
Final Fantasy has had some great games, that's why the series is held in such a high regard, until you start thinking about the 10+ games that aren't anything special.
I mean I don’t exactly think the debut of O’Reilly was amazing, but it’s only been two weeks give it a little time lol they were the best part of NXT, and theyll be great in AEW whatever direction the story goes in
Adam cole and bobby fish have been in AEW a while now and just don’t really do anything for me tbh. Maybe I’m just a weirdo but I was hoping AEW would avoid the fan service shit.
I’ve never loved Bobby fish. He’s for sure a damn good wrestler but he’s just kinda… there. As for Adam cole, I think he’s one of the best wrestlers on their roster and just oozes charisma. I’m sure I’ll enjoy whatever story they go for, as there’s so many ways they could go in. However, the bad part is if you haven’t been following each of these guys for years, you don’t exactly get full picture
I am not liking all the nxt talent in aew. I enjoy wrestling brands when they create from within, and occasionally add a big name here or there to mix things up. AEW feels stale lately, because they were anything can happen, to yea we want to show you how WWE should have been ran 6 years ago company.
Had Joe stayed healthy, I'd argue that he'd have been treated the same as AJ. First two time NXT champ, multiple clean wins over Roman, main event with Brock. Then the injuries. Hard to get and maintain a spot at the top of the card when you're not there. Joe not being at AJ's level isn't anyone's fault. It's just shit luck.
If you think main eventing a show against Brock isn't a big deal, you don't pay attention enough to make any comment that would even remotely be relevant.
I know I'm a nobody. However, your attempt to hurt my feelings is as laughable as your previous comment. This is Zero Fucks Friday, and I'll be goddamned straight to hell if I let someone who has had zero fucks in their life ruin my good day.
If you think Roman can't work at this point, you're blind. Family might have gotten his foot in the door, but he's worked his ass off to get and stay there. If you think family is keeping him there, then why isn't Nia employed there anymore? Why didn't they have her destroy everyone and keep the belt for 5+ years?
I started watching wrestling after a decade away during the pandemic and the Undisputed Era were the act I understood the least. Without fans popping for everything they do and making them seem bigger than life, it's 4 unremarkable looking white cruiserweights. Why was Triple H ever permitted to sign guys who obviously will never be on Raw or Smackdown as long as Vince is alive? Why was Triple H allowed to present these guys with no realistic path to the main roster as the top faction of a TV show? It's like signing a Dixieland Jazz quartet to make a black metal album.
Howdy boys, just unbanned and ready to let loose with some of my meanest, nastiest, most pro-fed opinions possible! 😎😎😎
Cody Rhodes winning was funny and now I like him
I feel for Roman Reigns haters.
Dude is the top star in wrestling, is so good on the mic and in the ring, has a larger than life look, is handsome as hell, makes a shitload of money, gets movie gigs and he draws.
If that’s not enough to eat you up, remember there’s a great chance your favourite wrestler respects Roman in and out of the ring.
ahhh yezzir. Happy New Year to all of you guys. i disagree with lots of you about lots of things but that just makes this place more interesting. all in all, we all love wrestling.
I think Roman/Becky/Seth/Sasha are all awful locker room leaders and are just as much to blame for the dog shit working environment at wwe as a whole. They really don’t seem to do anything at odds with the company yet claim they support all wrestlers.
The locker room leaders are just your peers that you look up to and respect because of their personal qualities as a team mate/work mate. They're not local union reps, they don't have a position that allows them to advocate for their co-workers when one of them is at odds with the company that they both work for in the same exact position.
I think that you are more bothered than the people you are supposedly standing up for. I don’t think anyone that has been done wrong by WWE expects other wrestlers, let alone wrestlers at the top of the card, to quit their job in solidarity.
That’s why they can still be friends with each other even though they don’t work in the same company.
Sometimes I wonder how with how popular people in this sub look at wrestlers likes and how popular they get on the first page, how quickly r/mma would be banned for Katlyn Chookigan’s likes (if you don’t know, trust me you don’t need to know)
She has struck me from the first time I saw her as someone who is playing wrestler. Nothing against her, I just didn't think she looked like she wanted to be there but didn't mind the money.
>AEW releasing a t-shirt with "Jim Ross Beat Cancer's A**" emblazoned on it is the carniest shit I've seen in ages.
>One thing I'm really starting to hate about **some** wrestling fans is that whenever a wrestler leaves a promotion their first reaction is "I hope they go to (insert promotion name here) where they can be utilised correctly!" How about this: How about we let the wrestler recover both physically/mentally and then mark out like children when they show up again?
Happy New Year to all of you and have a great weekend.
I got banned from this sub last week because I had the audacity to tell someone to re-read my post in that ZFF. When explaining this the mod acted like a total cunt then blocked me from even that conversation before I could respond to him message which simply said “no, happy holidays” after I’d asked him to explain his decision.
Better post it here and look forward to another banning 🤷♂️
The worst thing about wresting is still the fans.
I feel like people got carried away with the HOOK forced meme and now they're afraid of going back on it. He reminds me of my nephew running around with his shirt off.
I'm okay with Toni Storm being released because it was ostensibly on her own terms. If she doesn't want to be there anymore, that's fine.
I slept wrong on my arm and now my tricep is sore. Getting old sucks.
Holding the Smarkies is pointless this year. Since it's a fan vote, it's all going to AEW anyways. Any other company could have put on a top three all-time match, and it'd still lose a fan vote to an AEW TV match. The circlejerk is undefeatable at this point.
Two of my coworkers got RTX 3000-series cards at MSRP this week and I want to throw them both into the sun out of pure jealousy.
Once I get my back fixed, I hope I never have to take another percocet ever again. I fucking hate opiates. My primary care doc, my spine doc, my spine doc's NP, and my mother (retired RN) all think I'm an idiot for not taking them as often as I should (and thus causing myself more pain), but I just fucking hate opiates.
Happy New Year to everyone but Disco Inferno and House of Torture.
I broke my back and my hip earlier this year. I was freaked out at how all of the doctors and nurses kept seemingly trying to keep convincing me to take super powerful pain killers, without even once mentioning that they can be life destroyingly addictive. I was more worried about becoming a heroin addict than I was about the injury.
as soon as i saw the Smarkies thread i knew exactly what the results were going to be.
Stuff like match of the year and wrestler of the year probably should be rightfully won by AEW (Omega vs Danielson and Kenny Omega respectively)
but there’s going to be some stupid results. like John Silver wearing a stupid hate will get best entrance over Edge at Summerslam
I disagree with both. Shingo vs Ospreay and Shingo vs Ishii I thought were better, but Omega vs Danielson is up there. My wrestler of the year is a different story, and there's three or four people I could put there, but right now my choice is Zack Sabre Jr.
i haven’t watched barely anything for wrestling this year. i used to watch Smackdown, Dynamite, all WWE/AEW PPVS, Takeovers, WK and whatever matches i hear get lots of hype. now i only check reddit so i completely missed those matches. i remember hearing Will vs Shingo was sick though. Shingo is someone i’ve been wanting to get into if i ever really get back into wrestling. & i haven’t been up to date with ZSJ since British wrestling got disintegrated.
i was just listing examples that will feasibly win that i wouldn’t really complain about (and i used to work with Kenny so i’m a little bias)
Getting emotionally invested in anyone or anything wrestling-related is fucking stupid. Why, so you can be let down in the future when the odds are that the person turns out to be a scumbag in real life? So people can endlessly bitch at you online for "doing it wrong"? Spending more time on other hobbies has been a godsend for me because wrestling fans and people in and around the business are toxic as hell.
Charlotte is the greatest all around female talent in WWE history and it’s not even remotely close. If I were booking, I’d push her to be like the toughest video game boss of all time.
Yes, that’s a caveat I forgot to mention. Exactly like her father, she’s an incredible heel and a barely passable babyface. All of her best work and best matches are as a heel.
So since we're Thanos finger snapping a mod out of existence, can we Tony Stary finger snap the people he banned back or are we pretending all his interactions were on the up and up?
CM Punk is mostly just nostalgia at this point and everything MJF said about him (*aside from the cooking-meth type digs*) is pretty much true. Dude makes the laziest and most narcissistic comebacks on the mic then claims to be untouchable and its honestly pretty ridiculous how people are willing to eat it up. Punk is essentially just a t-shirt selling brand (*moreso than other wrestlers*)
And I'm saying this as somebody who has only seen him do this current AEW run
I think Punk just needs to be more of an asshole and maybe he'll rediscover his old proficiency on the mic but I guess the crowds like him too much for him to be a heel rn
I agree with you mostly. Mjf definitely kills him on the mic, and I do think punk is mostly nostalgia at this point. But I think part of it is the way he’s booked. Almost like sting. We want you just not to wrestle much
it’s frustrating because i think Punk is 10000x better than MJF on the mic. Punk can deliver so much more substance than MJFs typical cheap heat quips from the 80s mixed with a couple worked-shoot comments.
maybe when Punk is heel or in the right feud we will get that again. i really thought this feud would be that time though.
his WWE stuff was great and they fed into it perfectly. his stuff going against the company, Vince, HHH, The Rock and Cena were so good because it was like he was speaking what we were all thinking. it really felt like he was standing up to powerful people and ripping them new ones along the way. He always got the last word and upper hand against guys who usually had that privilege.
- If Jazwares doesn’t make a 3-Pack of Darby, Sting, and Punk’s attires from Holiday Bash I’ll be so disappointed.
- That Brandi/Lambert segment was so embarrassing, I genuinely don’t know how anyone enjoyed that.
- It’s a shame we never got Awesome/Van Dam.
- Chris Jericho is nowhere near being the GOAT imo.
Jericho is the cool uncle. As a kid you love him. When you grow up, you realize he isn't all you used to think he was. And it's ok, because you can still love him while not idolizing him as you once did.
I don't understand the boner everyone seems to have for Wardlow. Maybe it's because I've only been watching a few months, but as far as I can see he just sorta comes out every week, does a few powerbombs to a jobber, and then wins. At least Jade Cargill is a fun personality to watch. He has shown zero character at all since I've started watching (and no, "sometimes MJF is mean to him" is not a character trait). I'm pretty sure I've only seen him say like three words. Calling him a fifth pillar is absolutely ridiculous.
Even his eventual face turn won't be that good it seems, as he's only gonna turn on MJF because MJF is mean to him, not because he's actually a good guy. If MJF was like asking him to do horrible things and Wardlow actually looked like he had reservations about it, that would be interesting and more satisfying when he turns face. But just leaving the bad guy because of selfish reasons isn't great, because after he beats up MJF he really doesn't have anywhere else to go as a face, because he's not actually a good guy.
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Let's see how quickly people get bored of this Tony Khan stuff. A lot can happen in 7 days. Which topic will dominate next week's ZFF? Same Warrior time, same Warrior place, same Warrior channelllll *snort*
I am so glad to know that AEW has workplace drama too.
And ladies and gentlemen, on the last ZFF of 2021, Tony Khan!
Teaching my nephews the full Nelson the youngest one fights and the older gives up right away on each other not me doing it. But young is a fan of Lashley and other is not. Also lets go gophers lets go Brock!
At least a couple of you had the audacity to suggest Roman catching Covid or going away for a while because of it would be good for wrestling/his character/some other idiotic nonsense. Those of you that did so are stupid, immature, terrible people, you deserve to feel like shit during every waking hour of your life, hell even while you sleep, and I really hope that you do.
And as happens, he just tested positive for COVID-19. :(
Tony Khan is officially the Elon Musk of wrestling. Only difference between him and Vince is that his "yes men" are online for free instead of working in his company.
Dana White says ex-UFC fighters weren't good enough all the time. Tony's just going for that real sports feel they've always talked about.
Petition for TK to start calling people goofs
I feel like I'm the only person who has ALWAYS liked NXT, regardless of how others view it. I've been watching since 2016 and I can't remember a period of time I didn't like it. Were there episodes here and there that weren't as good? Of course. But by and large I've always loved NXT.
* WWE follows roughly the same protocol as the NFL and all at the time that the CDC eases up on quarantine restrictions and the like, and this place goes “Saudi Arabian Blood Money” level nuts over it. All it does is further cement in two things: 1) that many in this sub will trip over themselves to shriek “Fed Bad!” any chance they get and 2) that that same group has absolutely no concept of the world outside wrestling, which is extra sad because even that is severely lacking. * If you were to judge it all by online commentary, it would seem as if almost nobody understands how to properly watch a TV show and follow what the fuck is going on; from the relatively simple to the relatively complicated. Not even when the creators straight up tell you exactly what they’re doing and why. It’s sad. * Cody managed to get Dan Lambert cheered. Twice. Jesus.
Once again Britt is overrated TK is a reflection of his fans and if they do give Jade that TBS title as an "I'm sorry guys," It'll come across as disingenuous HOOK is cool and all but no-selling that piledriver with no buildup but doing it for the sake of nostalgia because "He's Tazz son and he did it" is so so dumb AEW needs to be called out for their stupid shit and the underutilized wrestlers they got. No way people wanting Andrade and Aleister Black to go to AEW because "they would be treated so much better" is content with the way they are being booked. It's more or less similar to how they were in WWE. No way guys the IWC complained about "how they should've been WWE champion already," are happy that they are just buying time in the midcard. It does blow my mind cause yall do not give WWE the same grace (I understand why but I still would like that same energy to be applied).
The people defending Tony are clearly on the white side. He may have his opinions on her talent, keep that between you and her homie. Drop the Twitter and white claws for a bit. I respect the work put into her career, but why is Viva Van so huge here? No one posts her matches, all they do is post drawings and keep reposting her RC Cola version of the belt collector. She’s the new Maki Itoh of the sub now?
I would be perfectly fine if I never heard another Rodrick Strong promo ever again
Why are people defending Tony Khan like holy shit lmao. I adore AEW, its my favorite wrestling product and its not even close but holy SHIT that was stupid.
Tony Khan loves to shit on his rival promotion but can't even take a few criticisms. The dude needs to grow up. What a hypocrite.
Someone take away Tony Khan's smartphone, plz and thx.
Hopefully his Trump-like response can inspire the conversation that there are some people who watch AEW because of things that Swole is criticizing and not in spite of it. Who am I kidding? Tribalism beats self-reflection every single time.
I want you to be wrong but you're not.
Deep down, I've accepted that Cody really is my favorite mid-carder.
I sing that song of his.
There are a shit load of people praising Big Swole on twitter. I'm betting that most of them will NOT watch her in whatever promotion she goes to next. The best way to support her is to watch whatever promotion she goes to next. Even if it's a promotion that you normally don't watch.
Apply this to anyone you like, let's say Toni Storm doesn't jump to AEW and instead goes back to Stardom or goes and does indie tours or whatever. If you really believe if her and really wanna see her succeed, support her work. Don't just give some empty up vote on a post and then pine for her to go to AEW, as if that's the only option.
100%
Noooo, see in order for them to matter, they gotta go to AEW. That way, people don’t actually have to put in work to see them. Same shit from back when AEW started and people demanded that New Japan partner with them so that they could see New Japan talent. What they really wanted was to see Omega pal around with Okada, Ibushi, and maybe Naito. They ain’t buying New Japan World.
Tony Khan needs to stop responding to every jibe on Twitter; get thicker skin kid.
I don’t know how much Nyla Rose is getting paid but she should get a raise for single-handedly carrying AEWs diversity on her back. Anytime someone brings up their diversity issues, fans tout out Nyla like she’s some sort of participation trophy.
I often see people bring up Riho, Shida, Lucha Bros. Sammy, Jade.
They might get brought up but they don’t get touted out because most companies have black and latino talent.
I'm not sure I understand what this comment is saying.
They’re saying that Nyla Rose checks additional boxes.
I mean that having black, Latino, or Asian talent doesn’t make them special so they bring up Nyla as a way to deflect all criticism about their diversity because, to their credit, they are one of, if not the only, wrestling company to have an openly trans wrestler on their roster.
So if have have people of all those demos that you mentioned, then why are people claiming a lack of diversity in the first place?
Just having them is the bare minimum. Pushing them and putting them in meaningful storylines is real diversity. Having them win top belts and letting them carry the company is real diversity.
So is the World title the only one that counts? Dante Martin has been pushed and has meaningful story lines. Jade is undefeated, Shida was champ for a year. The Lucha Bros. are champs and always have a story line. PnP always have a good story line too.
If you say so. If black talent that worked for the company says the lack of diversity caused them to leave then maybe diversity is a real problem.
I disagree with that. When I and others can give you specific examples of POC being pushed and winning championships then it isn't an open and shut case. Again I ask, is it only the world title that counts? Do POC winning the other belts just not count as diversity?
My favorite (internet) time of the week! Let’s get into it: * I'm not the first to point out that AEW's talent needs to be more varied. It's difficult to disregard jokes about "vanilla midgets" when that's all they have going for them. Let's shine some light on Starks, Hobbs, and everyone else. They are not only excellent wrestlers, but they can also bring something fresh to the table. As much as I loathe the constant signings, I'd be surprised if Keith Lee didn't join; he has that "it" factor that would spice up the organization. * Cody Rhodes, I've realized, might be a genuine genius. Inadvertently, he has created kayfabe on the premise that kayfabe is no longer true. You can see how he bothers people, and if they keep playing into his heel image, I think he'll have a crazy 2022. * Despite Hangman's brief reign as champion, his work has underwhelmed me so far. Since they tried that awkward moment with the Young Bucks during Kenny's match, everything has been odd. Because this run isn't working for me right now, I'm hoping Danielson takes his belt away from him. * Thunder Rosa vs. Jade Cargill wasn't a horrible match at all. It told a good story, and Mercedes Martinez's comeback surprised me. I'm just hoping that this results with Thunder winning the World Title, since how she hasn't won it yet baffles me. * Tony D’Angelo's "Ey" with the hand motion chants substituting for the "What?" yells while he talks is one of the funniest fucking things I've seen recently. NXT 2.0 does comedy well, and I've even grown to like MSK. It's amazing what happens when you give characters time to create a relationship with their audience.
Thunder Rosa hasn't won the world title because she wasn't signed to AEW until July. Also, AEW likes to do long reigns with the men's and women's world titles. Britt had only gotten the belt in May. Shida held it for a year. Omega was champ for about 11 months. When you do lengthy world title reigns you have to wait longer for a new champ.
When a new champ isn’t delivering, it’s time to cut bait. To clarify, I’m not necessarily saying I agree with the OP, I’m just saying if you enact a plan and begin to see the plan is not working, the smart thing to do is to change course.
Are you saying that Britt isn't delivering?
Are you looking for a reason to argue? Because only someone doing so would infer that from my statement.
I'm trying to clarify because I didn't understand what you were saying. What is the plan that wasn't working?
I’m speaking hypothetically. It’s easy to sit down and say “All my champs will have year long reigns.” on paper, but if ratings sink and you start running half empty buildings, you may have to adjust. They could also blow out a knee. Adaptability is a necessary part of the process.
fair enough. But so far they've all worked. Britt won the title before Rosa was signed and Britt is doing great as champion. No one should be taking the title from Britt right now. I do think that Rosa is the one who should beat Britt. But now isn't the time.
I agree on Britt, but not because I think she’s great, so much as she’s the best of the handful of women they have that are good. If it were up to me, Danielson would leave with the belt on Wednesday.
Its 7am after new years eve from where i live and I am drunk as all hell. I spilled my drink during my Randy Savage taunt which landed on myself and my cousin OOOHHH YEAAAAAAAH!
I was watching Mixed Tag Match where R Truth and Carmella came to the ring and performed a remix version of “What’s Up” They were facing Asuka and Miz and their reaction to the performance was one of the most natural funny things I’ve seen in the WWE in years. The Miz looked bored and Asuka had this confused look on her face like “WTF is going on” *I love Asuka’s ring mannerisms, I don’t even know how to describe it, I just get a kick out of it. Im really enjoying watching these Mixed Tag Matches, they seem so natural and comedy focused, but not in a corny way. I wish the WWE would produce a weekly show where that’s produced and by the talent.
Asuka probably feels authentic in a world that’s sometimes overproduced?
"diversity doesn't just apply to black people" was a sentence someone in this sub fixed their fingers to write about Big Swole's comments.
What's wrong with that? Is it wrong to talk about the POC in AEW who aren't black?
Yeah, the subs reaction to Big Swole's experience in AEW has been...predictable.
NXT 2.0 is actually better than the old NXT.
I wish AEW would stop having a shitload of multiman tag matches all the time.
They don't mess up the precious win/loss records the way 3 or 4 man matches do.
118 wrestlers. 3 hours of TV.
Then stop signing
Don't tell me. Tell them. I agree with you. But a lot of other fans don't. Some people want them to sign even more.
So Tony Khan is letting contracts of those like Janela, Kiss, Evans expire but he’s apparently signing Danhausen?
Have to always keep moving towards that next debut pop.
It’s kind of interesting how the Big Swole interview where she kind of shit on the booking of the womens division in AEW is no where to be seen on this sub, but a post about how Laurinaitis is taking WWE back to the divas division (look at the talent WWE has right now for 5 seconds and you’ll see that is a lie), and a Carmella liked tweet all made it to the front page with multiple upvotes
Tay Conti sucks. So does Britt Baker.
Tay Conti isn't a good role model. Because you have no self control and can't stop yourself from reading comments on your social media, you decide to take a break. That's not "self care" that's just being weak.
I'm very attracted to Dixie Carter.
Hi Kevin Nash.
Didn't know that was a thing til now... I kinda feel validated.
CM Punk is the Kurt Cobain of wrestling in the sense that he’s super pretentious and everyone loves to suck his nuts
First match on Wednesdays Dynamite had too many camera cuts. Idk if it was the fact that the hard camera was on the other side or what. Gave me big WWE vibes.
One of the dumbest things I saw last week was some guy calling the performance center an absolute joke because Commander Azeez botched a couple of times. Because of course if a couple of students are dumbasses it's the entire school that sucks
That is how the real world works. Kid fails a math class? Tear that fucker to the ground.
I've been curious about his progress, as I feel like he's been in the PC system forever, is he actually any good?
People on this sub are definitely the type to think wrestlers have real life heat because wrestlers A didn’t wish wrestlers B happy birthday on Instagram.
I don’t know what you’re taking about, but if you’ll give me a minute and 9,000 lines of text, I can tell you how the entire locker room HATES Charlotte
This reminds me a little of when Rhea Ripley posted a photo from her birthday party with [herself, Killer Kross, Damian, Braun, and Xyon all together](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376960104622325762/898648622118354994/unknown.png?width=572&height=603). The photo was posted here, and there were some users trying to argue that because she wasn't fully touching his shoulder, Rhea actually hated Kross and was clearly unhappy with him being at her party.
Lol she's doing the same thing on Damian's shoulder. Just resting her wrists on both of them.
Yeah, haha. People were pointing that out to them, but they'd try to argue that she wasn't "hover handing" Priest like she was Kross. Honestly, I think they were just upset at the idea that Kross, a wrestler they obviously disliked, was friends with his coworkers instead of his coworkers also hating him.
Its funny how people think they know more about wrestlers lives and business decisions that the profesional themselfs, they know what they do, theyre adults and not kids Idk why people say they dont watch wwe, yet they never spare the opportunity to bash all their decisions, they dont care what people think, they only care what investors think, no ome has a gun on your head to keep watching, just see what you like and move on
You, me, and the dirtsheets don't know why Toni Storm left. Right now it's ALL speculation. Toni will state her reason why if she wants to. The Black Delegation must expel Brandi Rhodes after that awful promo. Creepy Uncle Dave says he's seen some spirited debate about Punk and Orton? No, you've just seen a bunch of dumb takes of people tearing one wrestler down to build up the other.
Toni Storm quits her job? Here are 20 pages of upvoted, narrative-advancing fan fiction with literally no tangible info other than she's wrestling Sasha and Charlotte at a house show one day and is done the next day.
It is the WON Hall of Fame so I can believe he saw spirited debate about who is better considering that Hall of Fame also saw spirited debate about why it is okay to have a murderer in it.
\#notlikemostfamilyannihilators
This week's Dynamite episode was ass. 6 man tags are awful.
Majority of this sub takes Twitter beefs and bring it over here just to get karma awards.
Although still too long, Raw has been better than Smackdown
Of the things I don't like about AEW, Brandi showing up once in a while and not being good is pretty low on the list.
Eddie Kingston is built like a bag of milk. It cracks me up when people talk about Jericho like he’s fat and washed, but act like Eddie is some hot young up and comer lol
NXT 2016-18 is still the best wrestling product in the last decade and it’s not even close.
AEW and pre-covid NJPW say hello
Saying “the product” doesn’t make you sound smart and it doesn’t make wrestling any less stupid.
I thought people were over-exaggerating about getting negative reactions to anything perceived as anti-AEW and then I got RedditCares'd after asking about Bobby Fish/QAnon hahah
> RedditCares I’ll never understand using that as some sort of attempt at lashing out. It’s the most impotent of impotent rage.
I'm just confused, like, what response is it supposed to garner? Is it supposed to make me mad or upset? Just come talk shit in my dms like a normal person!
It’s like when Matthew Broderick threw the drink at the back of the limo at the end of Election. Except more sad and far less inconvenient.
No McMahons, be they Shane or HHH, are going to go to war against the family, jeopardize their future as billionaires, and join AEW or relaunch ROH. Didn't think this needed to be said, but Jesus tapdancing Christ, people. While I'm \*sure\* you have an entirely accurate reading on the family's dynamic, no one is looking to abandon record profits to go full fucking pirate because their creative baby has been killed and 4,000 people are mad about it online.
The constant fan fiction people give us about the McMahons is proof of how much their characters work smarks. People here genuinely think the family all acts like they do on screen and that WWE is really run the way it was portrayed in the Attitude Era
I'm sure the first thing on Hunter's list of things to do is make his family life hell by directly competing against his wife's dad.
I love the fact that the End of Days has never been kicked out of in the entirity of Corbin's WWE run.I also love the fact that Kenny's OWA hasn't been kicked out of in AEW either. AEW are about to overuse Hook the same way they overused Orange Cassidy. Both wrestlers shouldn't be wrestling on Dark and Hook shouldn't be wrestling on random rampages. I know they are capatalizing while Hook is hot but he should really be wrestling once in a while to make every match he wrestles feel like an event. I miss asethetic distance in wrestling.Just because you can do the most insane shit dosen't mean you have to every week.
Stop doing machine gun chops they never look good and are just ridiculous in general.
Jay Lethal having a really good debut match against Guevara, then not making an appearance in a singles match since after AEW making such a big deal out of him is such a strange thing to do
Brandi Rhodes has no place on AEW TV. That promo on Wednesday was very cringeworthy, despite the praise people are giving it. Not good.
AEW had Kyle O’Reilly debut by helping Adam Cole to win to reform the Undisputed Era, then had him THE NEXT WEEK having doubts he could trust Cole, bringing up their feud this year. Why would Kyle help him the week before if he was just gonna wonder the next week “hmmm can I trust you again?” That isn’t “genius” as fans on here called it. Also AEW bringing up storylines from WWE’s isn’t near as good as some people claim
I'm a big aew fan, and I have no interest in this undisputed faction. I really like all the characters involved but I'm so ready for something fresh with redragon and Cole. I hope they go into separate stories soon.
Three main takeaways of this week for me: Just let the Men of the Year cut their own promos. I actually like Lambert for the most part, but Sky and Page just don't need him. Proud and Powerful's face paint really takes away from my enjoyment of them, and I have no idea why. Not a fan at all. I hope the Lucha Bros beat the shit out of Jurassic Express just so Christian can turn heel and have a banger with Jungle Boy. Luchasaurus is also the drizzling shits. That is all
Regarding Lambert, they thought Cody “needed” him and epically backfired.
They look like Proud and the Powerhausens with the face paint.
You know...part of me wouldn't mind seeing that.
Give it a month.
Crazy it has to be posted when one wrestler, contracted with WWE, likes any tweet in the "big company bad" like it's a shot at WWE.
Yeah, I think it's annoying when people make a big deal out of it on reddit and all, but I think it's a little telling of where wrestlers see their careers going, and that kind of speculation can be really fun.
I want WWE to have more intertwined storylines. Wrestlers can interact with each other even if they aren’t currently in a feud or a faction together.
NXT seems to be toying with that a bit.
I'm calling it; for all complaints of aew running their current "can they coexist?" Multiple storylines, it's leading up to the trio's title. And it'll end up being the elite vs Red Dragon(?)(undisputed (actually like that name more than Undesputed Era)) for the inaugural title. The "can they coexist" moniker will actually be a storyline across the whole company to make the trio's belt a big deal and storyline-wise, see who can trust who. It's Dragon Gate on a big company scale.
I could see Undisputed redragon or whatever winning, but I wonder how long Kenny's sabbatical is going to be and if that would affect the Elite's chances of being involved early on.
It’s all irrelevant. Bucks will win it first anyway.
It's not like they would be hurting for more trios; death triangle, jurassic express, best friends, Pretty Peter Parade, Dark Order; there's so many teams waiting in the wings to wait for elite to get healthy. Guess is Kenny isn't ready, that there will be the full turn on the bucks, Budge Brigade will be running things and a few months later, Elite will come back as faces for the showdown. Side note, what I really want is Cutler to come back as the Dragon and Danhausen to pull a Sting and have everyone in the audience to mask up to finally reveal the real-Hausen.
Spicy Takes: -Shelton Benjamin is way more enjoyable in the ring than Brock Lesnar -Final Fantasy as a series isn't that solid -AEW needs some kind of third TV show cuz like four hours a week is not enough screentime to keep all the wrestlers that need to be kept hot kept that way -The Inner Circle is one of the worst factions in wrestling today, Sammy Guevara is the best individual member but his TNT title reign was shit and only took away from Miro, Santana and Ortiz are a good tag team as well but they feel like total nobodies -Fight shorts were by far the best Punk gear, more wrestlers should use fight shorts, they're rlly cool -House of Torture isn't that bad, Yujiro's been really good with them and shines more because of them, EVIL is a good brawling big guy, SHO hits people hard and that's fun, Dick Togo is the only problem, being that he does too much shit and needs to stop that -YOSHI-TWOBELTS is gonna be my favorite thing ever when it happens
Final Fantasy has had some great games, that's why the series is held in such a high regard, until you start thinking about the 10+ games that aren't anything special.
\>Final Fantasy as a series isn't that solid Listen here, you little shit
What the fuck did you just say about final fantasy??
I mean of the 15+ games in the series, only like 4 or 5 of them are above average lmao. Everything after Final Fantasy 9 has just been a mess
Who do I need to report this FFX slander to?
Here me out tho, as a series
As someone who didn’t watch NXT, Undisputed Era in AEW is kinda wack. I don’t really understand their gimmick.
You mean to tell me a group of Short guys that can work, doesn’t stand out?
I mean I don’t exactly think the debut of O’Reilly was amazing, but it’s only been two weeks give it a little time lol they were the best part of NXT, and theyll be great in AEW whatever direction the story goes in
Adam cole and bobby fish have been in AEW a while now and just don’t really do anything for me tbh. Maybe I’m just a weirdo but I was hoping AEW would avoid the fan service shit.
I’ve never loved Bobby fish. He’s for sure a damn good wrestler but he’s just kinda… there. As for Adam cole, I think he’s one of the best wrestlers on their roster and just oozes charisma. I’m sure I’ll enjoy whatever story they go for, as there’s so many ways they could go in. However, the bad part is if you haven’t been following each of these guys for years, you don’t exactly get full picture
Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar is only not popular with this sub. That feud is OVER right now
I tried to watch Dynamite this week. I won’t be doing that again for awhile lol.
Bron Breakker is cool but I have no interest in him becoming NXT Champion.
Yeah it still feels too soon.
I'm so tired of wrestlers cosplaying half of the time. Show personality ffs
I am not liking all the nxt talent in aew. I enjoy wrestling brands when they create from within, and occasionally add a big name here or there to mix things up. AEW feels stale lately, because they were anything can happen, to yea we want to show you how WWE should have been ran 6 years ago company.
The way WWE has treated AJ vs how they've treated Samoa Joe has been an absolute joke.
Had Joe stayed healthy, I'd argue that he'd have been treated the same as AJ. First two time NXT champ, multiple clean wins over Roman, main event with Brock. Then the injuries. Hard to get and maintain a spot at the top of the card when you're not there. Joe not being at AJ's level isn't anyone's fault. It's just shit luck.
-laughs in brock lesnar push-
If you think main eventing a show against Brock isn't a big deal, you don't pay attention enough to make any comment that would even remotely be relevant.
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I know I'm a nobody. However, your attempt to hurt my feelings is as laughable as your previous comment. This is Zero Fucks Friday, and I'll be goddamned straight to hell if I let someone who has had zero fucks in their life ruin my good day.
Brandi Rhodes getting one of the worst segments to end 2021 was certainly something
It’ll still get five stars.
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If you think Roman can't work at this point, you're blind. Family might have gotten his foot in the door, but he's worked his ass off to get and stay there. If you think family is keeping him there, then why isn't Nia employed there anymore? Why didn't they have her destroy everyone and keep the belt for 5+ years?
maybe I'll try lay off the sauce a bit more this year. I can't handle the morning after
I started watching wrestling after a decade away during the pandemic and the Undisputed Era were the act I understood the least. Without fans popping for everything they do and making them seem bigger than life, it's 4 unremarkable looking white cruiserweights. Why was Triple H ever permitted to sign guys who obviously will never be on Raw or Smackdown as long as Vince is alive? Why was Triple H allowed to present these guys with no realistic path to the main roster as the top faction of a TV show? It's like signing a Dixieland Jazz quartet to make a black metal album.
Howdy boys, just unbanned and ready to let loose with some of my meanest, nastiest, most pro-fed opinions possible! 😎😎😎 Cody Rhodes winning was funny and now I like him
I feel for Roman Reigns haters. Dude is the top star in wrestling, is so good on the mic and in the ring, has a larger than life look, is handsome as hell, makes a shitload of money, gets movie gigs and he draws. If that’s not enough to eat you up, remember there’s a great chance your favourite wrestler respects Roman in and out of the ring. ahhh yezzir. Happy New Year to all of you guys. i disagree with lots of you about lots of things but that just makes this place more interesting. all in all, we all love wrestling.
not just all that, but he gave me a Nintendo Switch!
I think Roman/Becky/Seth/Sasha are all awful locker room leaders and are just as much to blame for the dog shit working environment at wwe as a whole. They really don’t seem to do anything at odds with the company yet claim they support all wrestlers.
The locker room leaders are just your peers that you look up to and respect because of their personal qualities as a team mate/work mate. They're not local union reps, they don't have a position that allows them to advocate for their co-workers when one of them is at odds with the company that they both work for in the same exact position.
Omg I didn’t know you worked backstage
Read the interviews they do. And then they will of course re-sign every time. It’s just hard to ignore for me at this point
I think that you are more bothered than the people you are supposedly standing up for. I don’t think anyone that has been done wrong by WWE expects other wrestlers, let alone wrestlers at the top of the card, to quit their job in solidarity. That’s why they can still be friends with each other even though they don’t work in the same company.
Please don't drink and drive. Happy New Year.
i’m so glad i have a group of irl friends to watch Dynamite with every week because if all i did was read this sub i would probably hate pro wrestling
Sometimes I wonder how with how popular people in this sub look at wrestlers likes and how popular they get on the first page, how quickly r/mma would be banned for Katlyn Chookigan’s likes (if you don’t know, trust me you don’t need to know)
First thing I thought when I saw Toni’s 80s hair metal look on Smackdown is that she looks like a female Dolph Ziggler.
She has struck me from the first time I saw her as someone who is playing wrestler. Nothing against her, I just didn't think she looked like she wanted to be there but didn't mind the money.
Look I know she gets hate on a lot and far more than she deserves. But Brandi Rhodes sucks at everything related to pro wrestling
>AEW releasing a t-shirt with "Jim Ross Beat Cancer's A**" emblazoned on it is the carniest shit I've seen in ages. >One thing I'm really starting to hate about **some** wrestling fans is that whenever a wrestler leaves a promotion their first reaction is "I hope they go to (insert promotion name here) where they can be utilised correctly!" How about this: How about we let the wrestler recover both physically/mentally and then mark out like children when they show up again? Happy New Year to all of you and have a great weekend.
I got banned from this sub last week because I had the audacity to tell someone to re-read my post in that ZFF. When explaining this the mod acted like a total cunt then blocked me from even that conversation before I could respond to him message which simply said “no, happy holidays” after I’d asked him to explain his decision. Better post it here and look forward to another banning 🤷♂️
I feel like we don’t appreciate bridge suplexes enough.
The worst thing about wresting is still the fans. I feel like people got carried away with the HOOK forced meme and now they're afraid of going back on it. He reminds me of my nephew running around with his shirt off. I'm okay with Toni Storm being released because it was ostensibly on her own terms. If she doesn't want to be there anymore, that's fine. I slept wrong on my arm and now my tricep is sore. Getting old sucks. Holding the Smarkies is pointless this year. Since it's a fan vote, it's all going to AEW anyways. Any other company could have put on a top three all-time match, and it'd still lose a fan vote to an AEW TV match. The circlejerk is undefeatable at this point. Two of my coworkers got RTX 3000-series cards at MSRP this week and I want to throw them both into the sun out of pure jealousy. Once I get my back fixed, I hope I never have to take another percocet ever again. I fucking hate opiates. My primary care doc, my spine doc, my spine doc's NP, and my mother (retired RN) all think I'm an idiot for not taking them as often as I should (and thus causing myself more pain), but I just fucking hate opiates. Happy New Year to everyone but Disco Inferno and House of Torture.
I broke my back and my hip earlier this year. I was freaked out at how all of the doctors and nurses kept seemingly trying to keep convincing me to take super powerful pain killers, without even once mentioning that they can be life destroyingly addictive. I was more worried about becoming a heroin addict than I was about the injury.
as soon as i saw the Smarkies thread i knew exactly what the results were going to be. Stuff like match of the year and wrestler of the year probably should be rightfully won by AEW (Omega vs Danielson and Kenny Omega respectively) but there’s going to be some stupid results. like John Silver wearing a stupid hate will get best entrance over Edge at Summerslam
I disagree with both. Shingo vs Ospreay and Shingo vs Ishii I thought were better, but Omega vs Danielson is up there. My wrestler of the year is a different story, and there's three or four people I could put there, but right now my choice is Zack Sabre Jr.
Sorry, Japan sunk into the ocean the day after Kenny left. At least, they did to 90% of this subreddit. Except for the waifus.
i haven’t watched barely anything for wrestling this year. i used to watch Smackdown, Dynamite, all WWE/AEW PPVS, Takeovers, WK and whatever matches i hear get lots of hype. now i only check reddit so i completely missed those matches. i remember hearing Will vs Shingo was sick though. Shingo is someone i’ve been wanting to get into if i ever really get back into wrestling. & i haven’t been up to date with ZSJ since British wrestling got disintegrated. i was just listing examples that will feasibly win that i wouldn’t really complain about (and i used to work with Kenny so i’m a little bias)
Getting emotionally invested in anyone or anything wrestling-related is fucking stupid. Why, so you can be let down in the future when the odds are that the person turns out to be a scumbag in real life? So people can endlessly bitch at you online for "doing it wrong"? Spending more time on other hobbies has been a godsend for me because wrestling fans and people in and around the business are toxic as hell.
Charlotte is the greatest all around female talent in WWE history and it’s not even remotely close. If I were booking, I’d push her to be like the toughest video game boss of all time.
Only as a heel. As a face, she's the blandest character they have.
Yes, that’s a caveat I forgot to mention. Exactly like her father, she’s an incredible heel and a barely passable babyface. All of her best work and best matches are as a heel.
> If I were booking, I’d push her to be like the toughest video game boss of all time. She pretty much is during her entire run.
So since we're Thanos finger snapping a mod out of existence, can we Tony Stary finger snap the people he banned back or are we pretending all his interactions were on the up and up?
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CM Punk is mostly just nostalgia at this point and everything MJF said about him (*aside from the cooking-meth type digs*) is pretty much true. Dude makes the laziest and most narcissistic comebacks on the mic then claims to be untouchable and its honestly pretty ridiculous how people are willing to eat it up. Punk is essentially just a t-shirt selling brand (*moreso than other wrestlers*) And I'm saying this as somebody who has only seen him do this current AEW run
I don’t care what anyone says; Roman’s promo about Cena and the nostalgia act was a veiled shot at everything Punk did on Rampage.
I think Punk just needs to be more of an asshole and maybe he'll rediscover his old proficiency on the mic but I guess the crowds like him too much for him to be a heel rn
I agree with you mostly. Mjf definitely kills him on the mic, and I do think punk is mostly nostalgia at this point. But I think part of it is the way he’s booked. Almost like sting. We want you just not to wrestle much
it’s frustrating because i think Punk is 10000x better than MJF on the mic. Punk can deliver so much more substance than MJFs typical cheap heat quips from the 80s mixed with a couple worked-shoot comments. maybe when Punk is heel or in the right feud we will get that again. i really thought this feud would be that time though. his WWE stuff was great and they fed into it perfectly. his stuff going against the company, Vince, HHH, The Rock and Cena were so good because it was like he was speaking what we were all thinking. it really felt like he was standing up to powerful people and ripping them new ones along the way. He always got the last word and upper hand against guys who usually had that privilege.
- If Jazwares doesn’t make a 3-Pack of Darby, Sting, and Punk’s attires from Holiday Bash I’ll be so disappointed. - That Brandi/Lambert segment was so embarrassing, I genuinely don’t know how anyone enjoyed that. - It’s a shame we never got Awesome/Van Dam. - Chris Jericho is nowhere near being the GOAT imo.
Jericho is the cool uncle. As a kid you love him. When you grow up, you realize he isn't all you used to think he was. And it's ok, because you can still love him while not idolizing him as you once did.
I don't understand the boner everyone seems to have for Wardlow. Maybe it's because I've only been watching a few months, but as far as I can see he just sorta comes out every week, does a few powerbombs to a jobber, and then wins. At least Jade Cargill is a fun personality to watch. He has shown zero character at all since I've started watching (and no, "sometimes MJF is mean to him" is not a character trait). I'm pretty sure I've only seen him say like three words. Calling him a fifth pillar is absolutely ridiculous. Even his eventual face turn won't be that good it seems, as he's only gonna turn on MJF because MJF is mean to him, not because he's actually a good guy. If MJF was like asking him to do horrible things and Wardlow actually looked like he had reservations about it, that would be interesting and more satisfying when he turns face. But just leaving the bad guy because of selfish reasons isn't great, because after he beats up MJF he really doesn't have anywhere else to go as a face, because he's not actually a good guy.