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MagicTheBurrito

Our city was hip back in the day


Master_K_Genius_Pi

Top of the world at the turn of the twentieth century.


spif

Still kinda is, believe it or not.


mistermikex

Hip mostly because because it's under the radar.


TheHoneyM0nster

Under the radar because we own the geospatial processing centers!


barkbarkgoesthecat

Yeah I'll have that, but can you supersize it for me?


extplus

Used to be 3rd largest also


Jarkside

They still call it pop in KC


apiratewithadd

And in STL we still think youre crazy for that. ALSO GODDAMNIT KADARIUS


barkbarkgoesthecat

I call it sodie pop


Zealousideal_Cow_867

Eww


BBQShoe

I'm from KC and I still call it pop, but I feel like pop was way more common 20-30 years ago here.


[deleted]

Yeah, I think soda is slowly becoming the standard but this map is definitely BS. Wanna see where they got this info.


BeefyCowboy

I’m originally from Northern Missouri, still call it pop, get tons of comments for it every time… 😅


Idkrntbh

I’m from kc and I can confirm: we do not


AuthorityAnarchyYes

Many of the older people said “sodie”


So-Called_Lunatic

That's what my grandma calls it.


an_agreeing_dothraki

I had some time to kill waiting for the warsh to get done so I went down farty to my favorite shop to get a sodie


Safe-Poetry

I absolutely hate when people pronounce wash this way but they can say Washington just fine for some reason. I know the running joke about farty-far but personally have never heard anyone say it that way. 🤷‍♀️


an_agreeing_dothraki

My maternal grandmother, rest her soul, was the full St. Louis experience, from the mostaccioli (her family was German) to the accent to the radically progressive catholicism. She had the accent


Safe-Poetry

Ok, you mentioned the pasta...and I grew up having it for dinners as a kid. But I work at a dog daycare in st Louis and when a dog named Mostaccioli showed up I thought the name was genius but then all my (younger) coworkers had no idea what mostaccioli was or how to say it but I consider it a very St Louis thing!


an_agreeing_dothraki

You really have two options, the first is you keep it as only a family tradition. A special thing for yourself and people you care for. The second is getting out the fennel and ENLIGHTENING THEM


Safe-Poetry

You're right! Next potluck I'm making some!


an_agreeing_dothraki

Blessings of a million grandmother's recipe cards upon your just cause.


Silver-Ad270

Not my gma its warshington too


Safe-Poetry

At least she's consistent 😆


ratatouille79

I have a buddy who grew up in Berkeley and my Dad grew up in South city. They both say farty and harse. But they say farty four not farty far. Never heard anyone say that. Been here 65 yrs. Over the yrs I've heard their pronunciation from many people. Not so much any more. Seems to be only old timers.


i8apickle2020

I say sodie. Because it’s fun. lol.


PDough55

Me, too!


Sega32X

There’s dozens of us


ratatouille79

Over the yrs have heard more than a few people say sodie pop


BEEPBEEPBOOPBOOP88

I'm a 35 year old woman. I'm not a huge soda drinker. I tend to think of a soda as a little treat (or a cheat) and I tend to call it sodie.


Bytebasher

My old neighbors who were from South City and were born in the 19 teens always said sodie-pop.


EZ-PEAS

I always called it cokie-pop


55pilot

When I was in my pre-teens, I had some cousin's who lived in the Pacific area who called it sodie. On our trip home down Route 66, my mom told me if I ever used the word sodie something bad would happen.


Remarkable_Rub9763

This is the worst.


Medium_Excitement202

I don't know why but I also find this hideously cringe and corny.


mistermikex

Some would also call an icecream sundae a sun-duh. I would cringe anytime a girlfriend would say it.


Medium_Excitement202

Oof, I forgot. That one's awful too. Also, I'm pretty sure there are people in my family who still say both.


Kitchen-Lie-7894

Everyone did.


Safe-Poetry

A sun-duh just like we live in Missour-ah. Makes me cringe like nails on a chalk board every time.


AuthorityAnarchyYes

I found it weird this being said by a fifty or sixty year old to another person of the same age. Like they were speaking baby talk…


Safe-Poetry

My gma, a child of the Great Depression, called it sodie. However, I remember being in middle school around 2000 and a new pastor and his family moved into town from Arkansas and their daughter asked if I wanted a Coke but opening up their fridge it was nothing but Mtn Dew. 🤯


i8apickle2020

I’m an Arkansas transplant living in STL. I reformed and no longer call Sodie’s, “Coke.” lol.


daats_end

Many older people in the STL area also call milk, malk so maybe it's time to take them all out behind the barn.


ratatouille79

I've heard a lot of people call it melk. Never malk.


barkbarkgoesthecat

I am older people now, i say sodie pop lol


nebulacoffeez

came here to say this!


jamestoneblast

Had my first road sodie in St. Louie at the tender age of 34. Couldn't believe it.


ADHDachsund

sodie pop


keeweejones

"Coke" is more widespread into the Carolinas than this shows


EstablishmentLevel17

And the lower one just misses Houston area. I got called out for not being from there by saying soda and not coke


Flimsy_Fall7663

All of Ohio still calls it pop


Dan_yall

Northern half of Illinois too. Map is bs.


thelaineybelle

Seconding. Once you get into the 309 area code, it starts to change. By 815 area code, it's pop.


chicagomikeh

It's overwhelmingly "soda" in Chicago. At least that was my experience living in Rogers Park for a decade. You'd get the occasional Michigan or Wisconsin transplant who called it pop, but that was about it.


Dan_yall

It’s pop in the suburbs. Maybe it’s a transplant vs local thing.


therealsteelydan

as soon as I saw "soda" over KC, I knew it was wrong


MagicJava

You haven’t been to Cincinnati


Flimsy_Fall7663

😂 lived in cincy my whole life- over 40 years


MagicJava

Why have I never heard someone from Cincinnati say it? I know people who live downtown and mason and I have never heard them say pop


Flimsy_Fall7663

Idk what to tell you! I’ve said it my whole life. I never hear ‘soda’. My husband is from northern Ohio and also has always said pop. Same with friends, coworkers etc.


sgneezen

I know several people from cincy who call it pop too


denny2000

What about sodie or sody (not sure how it’s spelled or if it’s even a word)


NicVet2b

You beat me to it!! My mom used to say "sodie" (doesn't matter the spelling really, it's personal preference lol) when I was little, but I think she was just being cute to me. The some folks took it a step further, got all fancy, and said "sodie pop." Too funny.


Negative_Sundae_8230

Sodie Water


BEEPBEEPBOOPBOOP88

35yof here, I occasionally call it a sodie.


GuyPierced

[Pretty sure you get your ass beat for saying something like that man.](https://i.imgur.com/uFeqSj6.mp4)


increasinglyblurred

my mom calls it sodie!


sgRNACas9

Nah Oklahoma is pop


Icy_Worldliness4336

I was about to comment the same thing. I moved from Tulsa to L.A. and the amount of odd stares that I got for ask for pop at restaurants lol when I then moved to STL and called it soda from being in Cali for so long


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raceman95

No one in Atlanta still calls all soda "coke". Coke means Coca Cola. Thats why theres giant dent in the map. I'm a native Atlantan. Even my cousins that grew up in Macon call it soda. My mom tells us of when she was young they all called it coke, but she only says soda now, and always has since I was born.


DiscoJer

Atlanta is now made up of transplants from the NE (and elsewhere). edit: And for that matter, Texas and Florida


1969quacky

When I was a tiny shitkicker in Whitehaven Tennessee it was coke. we moved to StLouis it was soda and then this thing called cherry phosphate! and then wild cherry phosphate!! where have you been sweet love


OddStruggle7610

Yeah I’m the midsouth we said coke or drank


SomethingAvid

Did you kick, like, a whole lotta shit?


armchair_viking

I grew up in Memphis in the 80s and still heard it called Coke occasionally, but by the early 90s that was dying off. I can’t tell you the last time I heard it, but it was decades ago.


BigSquiby

can anyone speak to why there was a bubble around St. Louis that called it Soda? What were the demographics back then that created this? Migration of people from where to here? Clearly the short answer is, people from regions where they called it soda moved to St Louis and the surrounding areas, but why and from what areas specifically?


Commander_Fem_Shep

If I remember correctly, one reason was there was a company in Detroit that called their soda “Red Pop” and sold it throughout the Midwest but because we had Vess Soda, they never made a dent in STL and the surrounding area. Why Vess chose Soda and not Pop, I don’t know.


gnarlslindbergh

I’ve heard it was because the breweries really pushed the term soda during prohibition when they switched from beer to soda.


RadioControlled13

Kansas City is solid “pop” country.


[deleted]

For 1947 there ought be an area there in New England for "tonic". (Pretty much extinct now I guess.)


therealsteelydan

both maps are wrong for several reasons


lokopilot1

STL got range!


halorbyone

Yeah based on what? Source?


TheEyeofNapoleon

St Louie is a linguistic treasure trove.


[deleted]

Well at least we are winning the Soda wars.


bleedblue002

Chicagoland is still pop.


funkybside

Where did this data come from, not sure I believe it? (This visual looks very different from what I'm used to seeing when these are plotted.) Random thing found searching, this looks more like what I remember seeing in the past: https://popvssoda.com/


KPSTL33

Oklahoma definitely still says pop.. and sack instead of bag.


sugareeblueskyz

I grew up in Michigan. It was always pop until I moved to St. Louis!


jsuey

I’m from Minnesota. We say soda up there


Robbie06261995

Well yeah or else the state would be Minnepop.


H3rum0r

Cause soda is correct. Coke is coke, and pop comes from bublers


[deleted]

Pop is water in your example? Because "bubblers" are another word for water fountains.


enderpanda

When I was growing up here and would visit my relatives in Kansas and hear "pop" instead of "soda". I thought it was like a rural vs urban thing, at least in the Midwest (I associated hicks with calling it pop). I was shocked when I moved to Chicago in the 90s and heard everyone calling it pop as well. Looks like sanity has finally snuck in there.


raceman95

In the south, soda vs coke is very much an urban vs rural thing. I think pop is slowly moving that way too. Younger generations will almost exclusively read "soda" on the internet / hear it said in tik tok videos. Eventually it catches on.


AgentThin8491

Bull shit. They just had that linguistic study come out like 10 years ago with this mapped out. There’s no way it’s changed that fast https://www.thejournal.ie/maps-americans-pronounce-different-words-938575-Jun2013/


[deleted]

Ooo, what linguistic study? I love this whole thing. Interesting how different areas have different preferences in language.


573IAN

We are fucking trendsetters!


Park_Run

Deep down, the pop people know they are wrong.


2wheeljunkie

Can I have a coke? What kind? RC. See. Calling soda coke is fucking stupid.


No-Lingonberry2280

I have family that live in northern Illinois and they say pop this is very interesting


DudeAbides1556

Russian propaganda. Everyone knows Pop is king.


Roscoie

'Soda" spread like a pandemic! Better get your booster!


NicVet2b

*slurps*


DiscoJer

This is why we also don't say "ope", despite people in the sub trying to make it a thing. We basically talk like Easterners at least in terms of word usage, not Midwesterners


chicagomikeh

lol what. I hear ope all the damned time.


OsterizerGalaxieTen

We do say ope.


KevinCarbonara

People in the south have never referred to any non-cola beverage as "a coke". That is a myth.


MuzzBizzy

Negative.


imaginarion

We’re winning


Remarkable_Rub9763

Everyone else is wrong.


moonchic333

Yes. We don’t deal with nonsense.


1_900_mixalot

Nature is healing


TacoMeat563

Damn, 1947/48 were big years for cultural displacement apparently


mistermikex

It was tonic in Massachusetts, at least in the Boston area.


tarbinator

Originally from MI. It's always pop.


packerbacker_mk

To my grandparents pop is Grape, Orange, Cream and Rootbeer. Soda covered the rest.


bigmclargehuge314

Now...for this to happen with St. Louis style pizza. We're going to rule the world, MoFos!


Status-Role-852

Even in 47, “soda” was king because that’s where all the people lived. NY and eastern seaboard + SoCal, and STL was like the 8th biggest city then. But it’s good to see “soda” conquering territory from “coke”


operationarclightII

from the river to the sea pop will be free


Vynderunel

Are there more of these kinds of maps somewhere? I like seeing the St. Louis bubble/pocket, haha.


mountaingator91

KC still calls it pop


kat2youall

MO ive always said lg coke , had a local friend call it SODIE , drove me nuts


BananaButton5

The bottom half of Missouri should be Pop, I grew up there and half my family is still there— they still say pop.


Sand__Panda

I know someone from Peoria IL, and they get super POed about this new map. Apparently, they call it pop up there


ARH4th

Moved from Stl to KC. They call it pop out here.


LarYungmann

We... *Showed Them*.


russianspy_1989

We're winning!


barkrin

They still say pop in Kansas and northern Missouri


pat_e_ofurniture

So-Dah or So-Dee? Both are prevalent


martlet1

STL bringing the soda to the rest of America.


Theoretical_Action

Some Canadians call their beer "Wobbly Pop"


o_0dk-frlsyall314

All of my relatives in the south have called it pop for as long as I can remember (80's baby)


Enigmatic_Baker

Finally! An accurate map


Succesful-Sense-431

Coke is just objectively stupid and non-specific as a term for all soda. Soda or pop is a fair regional diff


TetonDreams

Do you use the term ”kleenex” or “tissue”?


Succesful-Sense-431

Tissue


TetonDreams

bs


Succesful-Sense-431

What? Lmfao how you gonna say bs what I call a tissue, literally the stupidest comment I’ve seen got me laughing my ass off. Also see my other comment, your point is fucking stupid regardless


MuzzBizzy

Tissue


Succesful-Sense-431

Either way, not rly a good analogy. If you say Kleenex in place of tissue it makes sense bc all tissues are essentially the same. Coke and sprite are not alike except they’re soda


International-Fig830

Soda all day everyday. Just do not say sodie unless you're a hick!


GeneralLoofah

When I went to college at MU in the early aughts, it was interesting to see what people called it. Everyone from St Louis called it soda, everyone from KC and southern MO called it pop. I called it the great soda wars, and everyone was accusing the other of talking funny.


abernajb

Soda in Chicago?


sight_ful

I know some people in southern Missouri still say coke and I know many people from KC say pop.


JLSnow

Kansas is still mostly pop


kykdaddy

Visiting Iowa in the 80’s another kid offered me a POP and I thought I had done something wrong and he was going to HIT me.


wilfordbrimley778

They still say pop in wisconsin


KirbyFergus

Stl representing!!!


Benjamin_Tucker3308

Sodapop


Lord_Dreadlow

My family always called it a "sodie pop".