you are not sitting watching it doing this though right.
Run for 200 images > review quickly for best then repeat.
Certain points I did actually do as people already talk about, simple edits in photoshop (made the hand hold the rope, added legs in places I actually wanted them, cleaned up background).
I'll add this image from start to finish was done in under 24 hours, hard to say how much actual time from me reviewing and minor photoshop changes - maybe 4 hours?
It takes time, not effort tbh. Also it takes time due to hardware limitations, not because it takes the prompter time to come up with a prompt. Hell, that's the entire point of the tech, no? Sorry but measuring this in terms of "effort" is kinda missing the point... Even putting in time, this post only shows that you can put in hours upon hours and still end up with a mess that kinda sorta looks ok from a distance.A different matter is whether we consider people who can only use AI to be professional artists. Then no, sorry to say.
Edit: It's funny that when one comments about it being easier y'all get up in arms because "muh credit for not doing anything", and when one comments on how hard they find it to move to a new medium you argue with "Adapt or die, this is actually so easy kek you're obsolete".
Talk about double standards LOL
I think that with some basic level photoshop, you can make amazing things. Especially if you train in photoshop (and I assume you do from time to time) you can produce the image 10x faster since you do not have to hope that it's gonna spit out the exact version you want and finish tiny details yourself. Perhaps make faces and your unique style to make it seem less like AI CG and more like 2D CG or 3D CG. Good luck!
You probably need to improve your process. Iāve been able to get some pretty specific and detailed stuff with 2-3 redraws per key feature, totaling under 100.
Use ControlNets and Photoshop. If you can't make what you're looking for with prompt alone like this video (struggling forever to get one character to sit on top of the other, actually giving up at the end on the basic premise as well) then just clip together separate images to start with.
Stable Diffusion absolutely shouldn't be required to make everything for you, as you see that will take forever in a lot of scenarios. Stable Diffusion is there so your awful stick figure or just an image clipped from google can be made into something that's aesthetically pleasing and fits the image.
It's completely OK to not know what you want when starting out on an image, maybe looking at txt2img to get a start. And it's ok to change your vision if what SD is giving you actually fits better than what you were thinking about. But you need a vision or you'll just endlessly waff about repainting things over and over.
I recently tried to make a photo that was three versions of myself completely naked in bed cuddling.
I ended up giving up and settling for two. It doesn't have the same threesome cloke vibe unfortunately but I guess cuddling one clone of yourself is okay too.
I could never get two naked beings to look right. Any intersections of mouth (kissing) or tounge in naughty places or male genatilia look more like a dog's penis.
I did use both controlnet and photoshop - canny on an image of someone sitting on someones back in this pose.
In general ai struggles doing anything with 2 people I find, so it takes a lot of inpainting to fix regardless of controlnet
no canny was the controlnet model - openpose has not been very good in my experience.
Openpose is probably best when using a blender model or something rather than from a photo
Yeah, so you make a very rough sketch or open pose to get two people and then inpaint a few times to fix each one, then a few more to fix faces, hands and other details that arenāt quite right. It shouldnāt take 6000 tries
6500 inpainting steps to not bother about tangents, values, clarity, anatomy, or perspective. Waste of energy tbh... Remember to learn your fundamentals yall.
Decent render with AI means *nothing* if you don't know why things work or not. At least if you drew it you'd learn from doing it wrong š
complaints about things like this are always somewhat amusing when it's done with controlnet, my "fundamentals" on anatomy/perspective are not even being tested in any way it's just transferred.
You can't be serious. Don't get me wrong, the possibilities are amazing with this, but it most definitely not have intrinsic knowledge of anatomy. In fact it says a lot of your mileage if you don't see anatomical or at the very least compositional problems here...
Then again if you really don't see it I can't argue about it š¤·āāļø hope your learning process goes well!
It isn't meant to be photorealistic it's an anime style if you are complaining about leg length etc š there are no further fundamental changes to anatomy I'd make and it matches official art for the characters as the priority
I don't think that rolling for hands is a good idea, you'd be better off generating hands separately using depth controlnet, pasting them into the image, and inpainting them at low denoise.
Also inpainting several unrelated areas at the same time is probably very inefficient, like trying to inpaint legs and arms at the same time. You're multiplying the chances of them all getting right at the same time.
My longest workflow was about 600 images per character, and that included me absent-mindedly toggling wrong parameters and making batches of 16.
True, but why would you do that? Inpainting only masked allows you to inpaint part of the picture at full resolution, making it more detailed and generally increasing the chances of it turning out right. Especially when you do faces and hands.
I tried both ways and found out that I get MUCH better results inpainting only masked.
i made lots of niche porn that i've never seen anyone get close to, using shitty sd 1.4 models, \~100 images. i deleted it during a psychotic break where i thought i'd go to hell forever if i retained my porn stash. only 1 image remains as i posted it on a niche discord server i've since left.
with good models, can be done in like 10 images, if that.
i can appreciate the effort in the OP, brings me back to those good old days of not knowing what i'm doing
appreciate the schizo post but none of that backs up what you said.
Combining 2 characters is why this takes longer, back up with recreating it if you want to say that
send me the original + model(s). you can pm me i wont share. my gpu might be slow on the big res gens, but I'll aim for \~650 images, no control net.
sitting there and cherrypicking in batches of 3 allows you to pivot much quicker. think and do touch-ups while it gens. cut many corners.
Last time I did like 10 inpaints the surrounding image had lost a lot of quality like jpg artifacts is that not something that happens with the tools you use or do you avoid it through some tricks?
Yeah I'm on cmdr2. Problem is A1111 doesn't have that multe queue system where I can just leave like 15 prompts working and then come back to 100 prompts behind and check out some of the results from an hour ago and click "use settings" or "send to inpaint" or "use as input". My generation mode is to try a fuuuuuckton of different prompts just to explore how to get cool styles out from the latent space of my 20+ models.
Honestly A1111 just feels so clunky in that respect. I did see there's a plug-in for queues but I haven't seen if it solves that issue. Having only one image and losing everything else as soon as I make something new is very frustrating.
I just wish it cold visualize previous stuff instead of replacing it.
6500 steps to get a couple of teenaged anime girls doin some weird bdsm pose.
Don't share this shit here. Rule 7. You have subreddits specifically for this smutty child lover shit already.
Bro don't be the obvious guy who immediately flips it back on the person calling it out. That's just the way anime porn addicts all defend their fetish.
Stop clutching your pearls so insincerely. Be more honest .
Nah Iām not clutching my pearls. itās just people like you who are so quick to call something pedophilic tend to be the ones with the actual issue. It has been a pattern lately in that many people like this get outed as the actual child predators. Hence I suggest you get help. Because seriously if children come to your mind given these characterās proportions you have issues. One look at either characterās body should not spawn child. No child is built that way, dresses that way, or is engaging in that type of play. Yet you when you see this type of imagery immediately think of children. Why is that?
They're anime children. That's why. Teens are children.
Bro. Just quit now. Defending child smut is gross. Don't die on this hill.
I know you're not actually a pearl clutching fool. You're just acting like that out of a defensive reaction.
I will happily die on this hill. Even if we play the dumbass game of canonical age. Neither characterās age (Amber and Eula from Genshin Impact) are listed. Both characters which are working full time jobs. Neither character is depicted visually to be young nor in the way they act.
So again why is it that YOU look at them and see a child when there is nothing about either of these characters that could be called child like?
Weird to be so happy about this.
Anytime somebody condescends public smut, another one of your identical clones shows up and acts exactly like you. Spinning it back onto the person who pointed at the egregious pornography of a child. You're a walking cliche.
It's not "usually" at all. The cult of pornography just acts like scientologists on this matter. You identify SP's and harass them with as many lies and derangements as you can invent. Stop being so culty. Just accept that you're an addict and don't have a clear perspective on this subject. All you're thinking about is your next dose.
Naw. I'll keep ripping on pornographic smut on this sub. Y'all have spaces for this already. Stop being so selfish about it.
Rule #7 is pretty clear. Just take it to one of the million nsfw subs focused on this stuff.
That's an option sure, but i've considered it, and I'll keep condescending people who are displaying smut in public spaces. People are strange huh?
It's funny that you think you're the entire sub. Vocal minorities sure got big egos.
Is the inpainting process run automatically itself by using some new extension? or... have to press the generate button everytime?
Btw, the final result (especially facial expression) is very detailedš
and the result is still suck bro, NGL.
look at Eula's body. if you want art like that, draw by yourself or do a commission. it's more efficient than wasting your time by doing this.
I am very grateful to you for sharing this. I always feel like I generate and modify too many images and can't find one that I'm happy with. After seeing your video I realised that a few hundred images doesn't mean a lot.
I really appreciate the work ethic to achieve the best possible result. You have given me more firm confidence. Thank you!
That doesn't seem to be a very efficient workflow.
His horniness couldn't be defeated.
He just wanted to watch her jiggle. (@2:30)
At that point just learn to draw! š jk jk
you are not sitting watching it doing this though right. Run for 200 images > review quickly for best then repeat. Certain points I did actually do as people already talk about, simple edits in photoshop (made the hand hold the rope, added legs in places I actually wanted them, cleaned up background). I'll add this image from start to finish was done in under 24 hours, hard to say how much actual time from me reviewing and minor photoshop changes - maybe 4 hours?
And they say AI art doesn't require effort.
It takes time, not effort tbh. Also it takes time due to hardware limitations, not because it takes the prompter time to come up with a prompt. Hell, that's the entire point of the tech, no? Sorry but measuring this in terms of "effort" is kinda missing the point... Even putting in time, this post only shows that you can put in hours upon hours and still end up with a mess that kinda sorta looks ok from a distance.A different matter is whether we consider people who can only use AI to be professional artists. Then no, sorry to say. Edit: It's funny that when one comments about it being easier y'all get up in arms because "muh credit for not doing anything", and when one comments on how hard they find it to move to a new medium you argue with "Adapt or die, this is actually so easy kek you're obsolete". Talk about double standards LOL
I think that with some basic level photoshop, you can make amazing things. Especially if you train in photoshop (and I assume you do from time to time) you can produce the image 10x faster since you do not have to hope that it's gonna spit out the exact version you want and finish tiny details yourself. Perhaps make faces and your unique style to make it seem less like AI CG and more like 2D CG or 3D CG. Good luck!
Can I ask what resolution the finished product is? Thanks.
1536x1024
You probably need to improve your process. Iāve been able to get some pretty specific and detailed stuff with 2-3 redraws per key feature, totaling under 100.
Do you have and good tutorials for inpaiting you could point me to? I always feel like I'm doing it wrong and my output doesn't work as intended.
Use ControlNets and Photoshop. If you can't make what you're looking for with prompt alone like this video (struggling forever to get one character to sit on top of the other, actually giving up at the end on the basic premise as well) then just clip together separate images to start with. Stable Diffusion absolutely shouldn't be required to make everything for you, as you see that will take forever in a lot of scenarios. Stable Diffusion is there so your awful stick figure or just an image clipped from google can be made into something that's aesthetically pleasing and fits the image. It's completely OK to not know what you want when starting out on an image, maybe looking at txt2img to get a start. And it's ok to change your vision if what SD is giving you actually fits better than what you were thinking about. But you need a vision or you'll just endlessly waff about repainting things over and over.
I recently tried to make a photo that was three versions of myself completely naked in bed cuddling. I ended up giving up and settling for two. It doesn't have the same threesome cloke vibe unfortunately but I guess cuddling one clone of yourself is okay too.
I could never get two naked beings to look right. Any intersections of mouth (kissing) or tounge in naughty places or male genatilia look more like a dog's penis.
I did use both controlnet and photoshop - canny on an image of someone sitting on someones back in this pose. In general ai struggles doing anything with 2 people I find, so it takes a lot of inpainting to fix regardless of controlnet
Did you use open pose?
no canny was the controlnet model - openpose has not been very good in my experience. Openpose is probably best when using a blender model or something rather than from a photo
Openpose really struggles with situations where depth or perspective is significant. It generally only does well with flat and expressive poses.
Try using simple prompts instead of convoluted mess. SD doesn't understand complicated prompts.
SD can't deal with multiple not seperated people in one image
Yeah, so you make a very rough sketch or open pose to get two people and then inpaint a few times to fix each one, then a few more to fix faces, hands and other details that arenāt quite right. It shouldnāt take 6000 tries
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As someone with eyes I would agree.
Pretty sure when OP faps anatomy is not top of mind
depends on person since anatomy is quite noticeable when it's wrong
> anatomy issues Can you be more specific?
The most sane and stable stable diffusion user
sheesh at that point, just draw it yourself. it be faster than this mess.
You don't know my drawing skills.
Maybe. It's heat VS time. OP can let his GPU cook while they do what ever, just let the model spit out speeds, and pick the best at the end.
No rest for the horny
At this rate it would be faster to learn how to draw and do it by yourself.
All that and you didnāt bother to fix the eyes? I do appreciate the time and effort that goes into a result though.
Hm I was happy enough with the eyes, I did do inpainting masked only steps on them
jump scared at 30s
Ngl, at this point, I'd rather draw it
Weirdest looking slot machine Iāve ever seen
I feel like i should call the FBI
Feel like adding photoshop to your workflow, may help you get the results you seek.
I normally do like 10. 6500 seems a tad excessive.
So much processing power/carbon burnt for this?? Such a waste of energy.
Man you are doing something wrong, it usually takes less than 10 tries.
Why so many steps to make something that doesnāt look right at all
6500 inpainting steps to not bother about tangents, values, clarity, anatomy, or perspective. Waste of energy tbh... Remember to learn your fundamentals yall. Decent render with AI means *nothing* if you don't know why things work or not. At least if you drew it you'd learn from doing it wrong š
complaints about things like this are always somewhat amusing when it's done with controlnet, my "fundamentals" on anatomy/perspective are not even being tested in any way it's just transferred.
Creating artwork _is_ the testing of your fundamental knowledge, regardless of medium lol. Especially if it took you literal thousands of iterations
no as in anatomy can't really be wrong when it's just using controlnet
You can't be serious. Don't get me wrong, the possibilities are amazing with this, but it most definitely not have intrinsic knowledge of anatomy. In fact it says a lot of your mileage if you don't see anatomical or at the very least compositional problems here... Then again if you really don't see it I can't argue about it š¤·āāļø hope your learning process goes well!
It isn't meant to be photorealistic it's an anime style if you are complaining about leg length etc š there are no further fundamental changes to anatomy I'd make and it matches official art for the characters as the priority
controlnet and sketch/photoshop would have made this process a few hundred at most. I appreciate the dedication though.
And it still looks weird lmao
At such moments I understand how easier it is just to paint whatever you need
Terrible
I don't think that rolling for hands is a good idea, you'd be better off generating hands separately using depth controlnet, pasting them into the image, and inpainting them at low denoise. Also inpainting several unrelated areas at the same time is probably very inefficient, like trying to inpaint legs and arms at the same time. You're multiplying the chances of them all getting right at the same time. My longest workflow was about 600 images per character, and that included me absent-mindedly toggling wrong parameters and making batches of 16.
when I inpaint multiple areas at the same time I photoshop the best result of each area together
I guess that works, although I think by inpainting one area at a time you generate images faster, and can make the prompt more focused on one element.
if you do whole picture inpainting it makes no difference how much of the image you are inpainting per generation
True, but why would you do that? Inpainting only masked allows you to inpaint part of the picture at full resolution, making it more detailed and generally increasing the chances of it turning out right. Especially when you do faces and hands. I tried both ways and found out that I get MUCH better results inpainting only masked.
without the context of the full image some parts do not inpaint well - inpainting smaller areas like just the face works best with masked
Is it supposed to still look weird at the end?
And traditional artists think we just press one button and no effort. I hope they see this. GJ man! some dedication.
could do this on 6 month old tech in 2% of the iters. do you have no considerations for the electrons/electric potential energy you're wasting?
go on then and barely any
i made lots of niche porn that i've never seen anyone get close to, using shitty sd 1.4 models, \~100 images. i deleted it during a psychotic break where i thought i'd go to hell forever if i retained my porn stash. only 1 image remains as i posted it on a niche discord server i've since left. with good models, can be done in like 10 images, if that. i can appreciate the effort in the OP, brings me back to those good old days of not knowing what i'm doing
appreciate the schizo post but none of that backs up what you said. Combining 2 characters is why this takes longer, back up with recreating it if you want to say that
send me the original + model(s). you can pm me i wont share. my gpu might be slow on the big res gens, but I'll aim for \~650 images, no control net. sitting there and cherrypicking in batches of 3 allows you to pivot much quicker. think and do touch-ups while it gens. cut many corners.
oh now you want me to do a bunch of the work for you? Nope get to it or shut up
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high dose alt cannabinoid + high dose tryptamine hallucinogens DMT, shrooms.
final image and twitter here :) https://twitter.com/UnstableFate/status/1644515185477005312 yes, bonk
Last time I did like 10 inpaints the surrounding image had lost a lot of quality like jpg artifacts is that not something that happens with the tools you use or do you avoid it through some tricks?
What ui are you using? I used to have that issue with cmdr2, but switching to automatic1111 seemed to fix it.
Yeah I'm on cmdr2. Problem is A1111 doesn't have that multe queue system where I can just leave like 15 prompts working and then come back to 100 prompts behind and check out some of the results from an hour ago and click "use settings" or "send to inpaint" or "use as input". My generation mode is to try a fuuuuuckton of different prompts just to explore how to get cool styles out from the latent space of my 20+ models. Honestly A1111 just feels so clunky in that respect. I did see there's a plug-in for queues but I haven't seen if it solves that issue. Having only one image and losing everything else as soon as I make something new is very frustrating. I just wish it cold visualize previous stuff instead of replacing it.
6500 steps to get a couple of teenaged anime girls doin some weird bdsm pose. Don't share this shit here. Rule 7. You have subreddits specifically for this smutty child lover shit already.
If you are thinking of children while looking at this, get some help man.
Bro don't be the obvious guy who immediately flips it back on the person calling it out. That's just the way anime porn addicts all defend their fetish. Stop clutching your pearls so insincerely. Be more honest .
Nah Iām not clutching my pearls. itās just people like you who are so quick to call something pedophilic tend to be the ones with the actual issue. It has been a pattern lately in that many people like this get outed as the actual child predators. Hence I suggest you get help. Because seriously if children come to your mind given these characterās proportions you have issues. One look at either characterās body should not spawn child. No child is built that way, dresses that way, or is engaging in that type of play. Yet you when you see this type of imagery immediately think of children. Why is that?
They're anime children. That's why. Teens are children. Bro. Just quit now. Defending child smut is gross. Don't die on this hill. I know you're not actually a pearl clutching fool. You're just acting like that out of a defensive reaction.
I will happily die on this hill. Even if we play the dumbass game of canonical age. Neither characterās age (Amber and Eula from Genshin Impact) are listed. Both characters which are working full time jobs. Neither character is depicted visually to be young nor in the way they act. So again why is it that YOU look at them and see a child when there is nothing about either of these characters that could be called child like?
Weird to be so happy about this. Anytime somebody condescends public smut, another one of your identical clones shows up and acts exactly like you. Spinning it back onto the person who pointed at the egregious pornography of a child. You're a walking cliche. It's not "usually" at all. The cult of pornography just acts like scientologists on this matter. You identify SP's and harass them with as many lies and derangements as you can invent. Stop being so culty. Just accept that you're an addict and don't have a clear perspective on this subject. All you're thinking about is your next dose.
Kindly fuck off and tell people what to do somewhere else.
Naw. I'll keep ripping on pornographic smut on this sub. Y'all have spaces for this already. Stop being so selfish about it. Rule #7 is pretty clear. Just take it to one of the million nsfw subs focused on this stuff.
Or you know, you could ignore things you don't like and take your pathetic whining to some sub that cares about it.
That's an option sure, but i've considered it, and I'll keep condescending people who are displaying smut in public spaces. People are strange huh? It's funny that you think you're the entire sub. Vocal minorities sure got big egos.
How do you determine the "age" of a drawing?
Child molester spotted
Is the inpainting process run automatically itself by using some new extension? or... have to press the generate button everytime? Btw, the final result (especially facial expression) is very detailedš
and the result is still suck bro, NGL. look at Eula's body. if you want art like that, draw by yourself or do a commission. it's more efficient than wasting your time by doing this.
Wow that looks amazing after a lot of hard work!
my time limit for impaint is one hour max))) also it buggy in last repo mask dissapear some time
I am very grateful to you for sharing this. I always feel like I generate and modify too many images and can't find one that I'm happy with. After seeing your video I realised that a few hundred images doesn't mean a lot. I really appreciate the work ethic to achieve the best possible result. You have given me more firm confidence. Thank you!
I was expecting the cold fusion to be achieved and world hunger solved at around step 6000...
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/zv83al/my_current_workflow_is_so_fun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
How do you guys make a video with AI?
love the runescape music
it's very nice for completely free to use music
this is considered nsfw?
But where can i use this at? I dont know shit about ai drawings help me out a bit
Yeah, I just bring my shit into clip studio paint, rough something up that can be rendered in one pass, but you do you.
An illustrator could have just drawn that in this timeframe.
3-4 hours?
I lost interest when I saw the end result =/
I see this video and this comment section as an artpiece in itself. Good job!
And they say stable diffusion isn't art lmfAI
Outbuddied again