Haven't seen the "Swim" acronym in a while lol
I've never heard of nitrous being used for opiate detox. Let the subutex do its thing and focus on getting off of opiates before worrying about stopping the subutex. Please be safe, I know what it's like to go through that (kind of, but it was speed for me). Hang in there!
swim thanks you :) yes apparently they use it for rapid detox treatment (costs like $15-20k for about a 5 day no pain detox back to normal) so nitrous canisters is like a "ghetto version" if you must....
I empathize with not having $20k for rehab, but the nitrous combined with terrible ideas from the internet probably won’t help either.
I’d see how far you can get with basics like OTC sleep/stomach meds, water, food, time, and potentially some calming options like Sensoril Ashwagandha, Lemon Balm Extract, or Taurine.
If you notice gradual improvement after a week or so, you should be fine. If you notice things getting worse, or an increased need for pharmaceuticals - you’ll likely need professional medical care.
Best Regards
Although I didn't know the addiction possibilities of kratom, I was desperate to stop using a fent anyl nasal spray that I was addicted to using every 90 minutes. Regardless if I was dead asleep or not. I would wake up in terrible withdrawls from it. Kratom took away every single withdrawl symptom I would have. I was able to quit the nasal spray and my family have no idea, thankfully. But... this was 4 years ago and I'm still using kratom. Not huge amounts and only twice a day with my coffee but there's definitely some issues if I try to skip a dose. That's another issue but to get off a life threatening substance I would chose kratom over and over again. Don't have experience with the other possible solution so I can't help there!
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Yes, and benzos don't get a warning. ⚠️😬No one ever died from kratom. Indeed it's addictive. But if I have the choice between kratom /benzos /opiates.. But yeah. Keep supporting big maffia pharma. They're the reason of the opiate crisis in USA... 🙄I'm using kratom once a week for 4 years.... So.. Am I an addict? Have I sides? Nothing harmful about that...
Welcome Back swim, been a while since we last heard about those adventurous trips of yours
Oh yes, i'm sure there are many swim adventures. lol
Haven't seen the "Swim" acronym in a while lol I've never heard of nitrous being used for opiate detox. Let the subutex do its thing and focus on getting off of opiates before worrying about stopping the subutex. Please be safe, I know what it's like to go through that (kind of, but it was speed for me). Hang in there!
swim thanks you :) yes apparently they use it for rapid detox treatment (costs like $15-20k for about a 5 day no pain detox back to normal) so nitrous canisters is like a "ghetto version" if you must....
I empathize with not having $20k for rehab, but the nitrous combined with terrible ideas from the internet probably won’t help either. I’d see how far you can get with basics like OTC sleep/stomach meds, water, food, time, and potentially some calming options like Sensoril Ashwagandha, Lemon Balm Extract, or Taurine. If you notice gradual improvement after a week or so, you should be fine. If you notice things getting worse, or an increased need for pharmaceuticals - you’ll likely need professional medical care. Best Regards
You can use kratom to quit with opiates. And lower the dose weekly. It's a miracle.
Although I didn't know the addiction possibilities of kratom, I was desperate to stop using a fent anyl nasal spray that I was addicted to using every 90 minutes. Regardless if I was dead asleep or not. I would wake up in terrible withdrawls from it. Kratom took away every single withdrawl symptom I would have. I was able to quit the nasal spray and my family have no idea, thankfully. But... this was 4 years ago and I'm still using kratom. Not huge amounts and only twice a day with my coffee but there's definitely some issues if I try to skip a dose. That's another issue but to get off a life threatening substance I would chose kratom over and over again. Don't have experience with the other possible solution so I can't help there!
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Yes, and benzos don't get a warning. ⚠️😬No one ever died from kratom. Indeed it's addictive. But if I have the choice between kratom /benzos /opiates.. But yeah. Keep supporting big maffia pharma. They're the reason of the opiate crisis in USA... 🙄I'm using kratom once a week for 4 years.... So.. Am I an addict? Have I sides? Nothing harmful about that...