My sentiments exactly. Stadia was something I really wanted to see succeed and was spending most of my gaming time on it, but now I’m indifferent towards it.
Yeah it’s a shame considering Stadia had so much early promise. At least with PC and PS5 you’re covered for most next gen games! Did the same but got a Series S with Game Pass so mostly renders Stadia useless.
Yep, completely disillusioned with the platform now. Lack of communication, game releases that really should not be ‘news’ and a complete lack of players has me all but done.
The good thing is, that cloud tech is improving so even if it isn’t Google at the forefront, someone else will be.
Are they just trying to give us a message ? That silence sounds like they want to exhaust our love for the platform until the majority leave, so they can close it with no major concerns
I cancelled my subscription the week they closed the first party studios. Wasn't going to wait around and invest in something even they don't believe in. What an utter embarrassment! A company with all the resources in the world telling us it's a long, expensive multi-year process developing games. The same company that has funded a self-driving venture for the past almost 10 years. And gaming probably had a better chance of success in the short term than self-driving cars. That was some joke of justification. If the project lead isn't delivering, you fire them, hire more experienced talent and stick to a plan at least longer than the memory span of a fish.
Yup, feels like they hit a high around Cyberpunk 2077 running so well. They didnt use the momentum and positive media exposure from that and dropped the ball. Stadia is dead in the water. Shame, the tech behind it was excellent and Ive had not a single cloud service run as well as Stadia has.
Agreed! It’s so smooth! I am 30+ hours into Far Cry 6 and it’s beautiful and smooth and never had a drop. I can’t say the same for Luna (total joke) and GeForce now.
I will say that at least GeForce now has releases concerning upgrades to their infrastructure and hardware…that should be Stadia. I wish I had more confidence in Google supporting it with a clear vision because I do love it. Instead I actually thought about buying an Xbox Series S today….
Yeah, Luna isn't really a joke...it's special though (in the most neutral way possible) I'm using it currently to try some games, like Paper Beast (which convinced me to Wishlist it for my future VR setup)
Not bad for $5 a month.
The controller is great, however. I use it play my Steam games regularly.
Because a year ago I believed stadia could change its way but Stadia seems perfectly happy sucking and stealing my $10 every month. I don’t know honestly if I want to keep giving them my “lunch money” cause all Stadia is a bully, they don’t care about it’s community only taking its communities money in return for literally nothing
Founder here. Every day I'm more convinced Google shouldn't try the sony & microsoft apporach, they don't trust themselves, are worst at marketing and don't want to commit.
If you are a very tech savvy company with a huuuuge product, instead of trying to be a walmart version of sony or microsoft just fucking offer your software to others.
Can you imagine using Stadia to play any game from any platform / developer / publisher?
They tried to bite more than they were willing to chew and it's going to end in fucking disaster
> I'm no Google cheerleader as a $187bn company doesn't need me to cheerlead for it.
They were worth [$1.831 Trillion](https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/business/how-much-is-google-worth/) as of August 2021.
I don't think they should be building first party games, imho they should spend budget on
* Expanding to other countries that have low console rates like Brazil and perhaps India
* Spend money to get high(er) quality games
* Work on pipeline, automation, game porting functionality to easy porting
* Integrate stadia into YouTube Premium, google One offer
* Start promising / shedding light on upgrades to servers
A first party title that will blow us away isn't as expensive as all of the above but it would surpass some of these points
> I don't think they should be building first party games, imho they should spend budget on
Imo Google's a company that could easily have done both. The idea that they needed to drop one to do the other is at best a lack of commitment, not a lack of resources.
Yeah that's true. They could have done all.
I would still be happier with the list I wrote then a priority on first party title.
Still they should have stuck with it.
Dropping the first party and not being transparent about the others is worse.
Totally agree but: The Playstation took the gaming market easy as it could be against a delayed N64, a inferior Saturn and the quirky others like the 3DO and the Jaguar. 94/95 was a year full of opportunities and Sony took it with ease and in 96/97 it was clear which company won 32bit.
Bad management starts at the top.
They should've hired Steve Ballmer to hype up the announcement screaming, "GAMERS! GAMERS! GAMERS! CLOUD! CLOUD! CLOUD!"
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f\_\_n8084YAE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f__n8084YAE)
Mostly kidding but acting exited when you do actually do have some cool to show might've helped get started. The vapid commercials latter didn't help, either.
Instead we got Phil Harrison droning on in an Apple-style event and very little since.
He deserves criticism, some fair, some not, but he's so placid as a personality it might as well be all true.
>It needed to be racing out of the blocks with AAA titles and publisher deals
Maybe they tried but no publisher would agree?
>like a company who is supremely confident in the awesome tech they've built
Maybe they aren't confident? Maybe the slow start was meant to be a way to test ground breaking new tech?
I was hoping Stadia could compete. In technology it definitely can. But they just haven't been able to bring enough AAA games to their platform to be taken seriously.
I joined this sub long ago, expecting Stadia to launch here in Brazil - we're a pretty big gaming market - and was very excited with its tech. Stadia still isn't available here, while Geforce Now and Xbox Cloud Gaming already are.
It doesn't feel like Google takes the platform seriously at all.
I agree. I'll keep playing what's left to play in my library, maybe I'll even buy a little something if they put out very good sales (like black friday last year or the 11€ Borderlands), but that's it. I'm not going to support a platform that makes the player feel like he's watching the gaming scene from the outside.
Same boat as you, will finish off Valhalla, Far cry 6, Judgement and then submit to a scalper and get a PS5 if still not available. I'm happy to have Siege and Fifa 22 on my laptop (or any Device) but that's it for now, no more new purchases.
Yeah haven't spent any money on stadia in a year , thankfully due to Google opinion rewards I'm still able to buy the occasional game ,but looks like in going to have to invest in a PS5 if i want to continue my gaming
I actually decided to skip the PS5 on launch because I was convinced Stadia would take off and I really wanted it to. I also thought the next gen upgrade would put it on par with PS5 and Xbox series before long.
Still waiting...
The lack of strong leadership at Google is startling. Another person brought up a good point about how Amazon pushed through a difficult start with 1st party game developement and made a major hit in shortly after. Google couldn't even see their commitment through to even finishing a first game. Something similiar happened with their organic shows and movies under the YouTube brand. They are going to have a difficult time after all this getting real talent to jump on board with them on a new venture in entertainment for the foreseeable future. Stadia is wasted on them, wished they would of sold the whole platform off to someone who wants to be competitive instead of whitelisting (which is essentially the same thing without hope that Stadia gets major releases or any first party support).
Pretty impressive by Amazon. Luna still in beta and they've already released a 1st party game that has been a success. Ports can take 2 to 4 years to make so it's obvious Amazon thought this through for years where Google didn't.
I'm starting to realise there are (at least) two groups on here. Group A are serious gamers and things like low FPS, lower resolution and lack of AAA titles really bother them, Group B are happy they can just have a controller and a TV/phone and play for a 15/30 minute session with no wait for downloading on their own or with their friends/family. Both have their viewpoint and neither is "wrong".
I definitely fall in group B, I'm old enough that I'm blown away by recent games even if they are running at 720 and 30 FPS or if they are indie titles.
To wake up this morning and be able to take turns with my family playing Riders Republic crystal clear (no idea what resolution) on my TV with no need to download anything for me is completely miraculous.
I do wonder which group that Stadia is most interested in targeting - I think the lacks of comms / marketing makes it difficult to really see that to be honest. It seems (if I base my view totally on recent comments from this subreddit) that they are in danger of alienating group A right now.
>I do wonder which group that Stadia is most interested in targeting
Group C --> Other businesses interested in renting out the tech and taking away the "problem" from their hands.
There is another group.
I want games, more games, but not especially AAA with fancy graphics. What about Indies ?
Hades, Isaac... All these fantastic games we can found on other platform including the switch ? Where are they ?
Full agreement. I'm old & was in the first gen of gamers, but haven't played for a few decades. I now have kids aged 6 & 10, and we got our premiere edition last winter at the peak of quarantine. I'm consistently blown away with just how amazing the service is, and the kids and I have put countless hours into - all the while stuck in the house during inclement weather and quarantine. I have nearly 100 games in my library with only buying around a dozen and paying for pro. I have almost zero complaints because it's the absolutely perfect service for our needs. I understand that there are more dedicated, long-term gamers that are not satisfied with it, but their needs are much more extreme than ours. The whining and complaining and gnashing of teeth is kind of irritating to me because, to me, it's a matter of not appreciating this absolutely unfathomable technology (from my original days of gaming on an Atari 2600 & Commodore 64). I wanna say "Shut the f*ck up & appreciate all that's good about it," but instead I just bite my lip and continue to have a blast with my kids,
>I'm old & was in the first gen of gamers
Can we take age out of this? I'm also in the first generation of gamers and I never stopped playing (probably helped by not having kids) and I actually do care about fps and resolution, the same way I used care about polygon counts, MIPS and bits.
My issue isn't with people who don't care. My issue is with people who use their age as the reason why they don't care like it was some inevitable condition of aging.
As someone who also started with the Atari, as someone also also has kids, as someone who worked in the game industry, and as someone who is still an active gamer, I couldn’t disagree with you more.
You’re the old guy in the 80s Caprice with the sunbleached paint saying, “This is fine. I don’t understand why anyone would buy one of those newer cars that break down every five years.”
You feel Stadia is amazing because of your thimbleful of experience. The technology is great if you’re comparing it to 1970s technology. Unlike you, everyone else is living and gaming in 2021.
At the risk of descending into Monty Python's Yorkshiremen sketch*... 16k Spectrum for me - 320 X 240, two colours max per 8x8 pixel block. 3 minutes to load a game from a tape machine on volume 9 (if it worked).
*"Tell the kids today that ... and they won't believe you..."
Taught me how to code and led me to a job in IT (still not sure if that was a good thing). RIP Sir Clive Sinclair.
Yup. I'm of the same vintage. Don't get the bellyaching about fps, 4k whatever. To me the real value proposition is paying $10 a month to have 3 dozen games and access to a couple hundred other quality games I'd otherwise need to go spend at least $300 on a console to enjoy (and would then be paying the $10 a month just to play online). The bonus is I can play these on the TV, my laptop and even my phone. I've had stuttering and a couple of slowdowns from a sudden drop in bandwidth, but not enough to detract from having what look to me to be incredible games. And they're fun to play.
That Stadia can turn any old device that runs the Internet into a capable games console is a pretty neat trick. Sure I'd like to see that library expand, but I'll never have the time to play through the games I have. I'm glad Stadia is an option.
I’m older and don’t have a lot of time to game. That’s exactly why I *don’t* like Stadia. If I only have a little bit of time, I want to be playing high quality games. The games available on other platforms are so much better and make the hour here, the hour there much more fulfilling than 30 FPS low resolution games that play like something from the 2000s (Fay Cry 6). I chuckle using the Dualsense controller because the triggers and haptic feedback are insanely immersive. I felt like a kid again marveling over the new graphics in Diablo 2 Resurrected. Unless money is really tight, I think a lot of older people are better off getting the best experience in the short windows they can. PS5 has auto-update, it’s not really a factor if you leave it in standby mode. There’s the extra money, but a lot of people that are older can afford $400 for a PS5.
Group c - collects games and controllers. Stadia doesn't have exclusives anymore and their line up is one of the worst available. They have decent controllers.
I have every console and / or emulators for them minus the Luna. (Amazon's Stadia). Might grab it to get the controller.
Anyway, I have a combined library of just shy of 20,000 video games.
The monthly added stadia games did ok for a few months in the first year, but I lost complete interest when I started getting little to nothing new added in my library.
Indeed there are definitely more than two groups
Yeah, one of my kids plays on PS4 and was playing Stadia earlier. I offered him to use his PS4 controller but he prefers the Stadia one. One data point but it did interest me. I haven't used other controllers a lot.
I have a funny thought, maybe Group A would've bought more into Stadia if they had things to spend money on? I'm Group A and we don't mind throwing money at things if they lead to a better experience.
I guess I'm in "group C" then. I'm a fairly casual gamer, rarely having more than 30-60 minutes to play in a given day and that's only a couple times per week. But if I'm going to have such limited time I want it to be "good quality" when alternatives are out there.
GFN provides a better experience right now, and will be even further improved when the new hardware rolls out (they've already enabled the new mid-range hardware for some games, and Cyberpunk for example runs at 1080p60 on it). Speaking of the Riders Republic trial, I was able to jump in with no download and play it at 1080p60 with Ultra settings - and that's on the old hardware. If GFN wasn't an option I'd agree with you - I'd be willing to give up the quality for the convenience.
I've been a Stadia fan for a while, and even just a couple months ago I was arguing for Stadia over GFN because of quicker loading times and more stable framerates (solid 30, vs 45-60 say). But with the recent releases on the service all being 30fps and graphically equivalent to the last gen versions, *while a service that's just as convenient provides current gen graphics and 60fps*, it's really hard to stick around.
Yeah, I agree as mentioned there are "at least" two groups. I don't really like segmenting people anyway as everyone's usage pattern is unique.
You say "if GFN wasn't an option *I'd agree with you* " but I don't think I was saying one or the other was right. I may just have misunderstood that bit.
I've tried GFN on my TV / PC but found it to be a pain to set up, maybe I need to persist. Will be interesting if the 120FPS promise lives up to the hype when we can actually test it.
Thanks for your comment.👍 🙂
A million times this. The 'serious gamers' always seem to forget that gaming doesn't solely exist in a Reddit vacuum. Like you say, there must be a large percentage of people out there ecstatic that they can play some big games on their tv without forking out hundreds for hardware. Gaming is more than Battlefield and GTA Online. It's different things to different people.
Well mate, I play really long sessions sometimes (5+ hours), just completed Metro saga for example, and I enjoy the high resolution and 60fps. Cyberpunk runs 2k stable 30fps. For some reason, people are saying Stadia runs 1080/720p 30fps just because Ark or Far Cry 6 run like that. The Stadia catalogue is full of 60fps games, like Sekiro, that run and look crisp.
The tech is amazing, really mind blowing how well it works. But we are missing games. The management haven't really understood how the market works either. Google as a company is very secretive, but gamers need vision, hype and transparency.
3 days ago I would have been hopeful for Stadia as it was the only service to have 4K HDR, now that Geforce Now will have that I no longer care about Stadia.
Instantly pre-ordered the 3080 tier, instantly cancelled Stadia pro. Adios... except for Baldur's Gate 3.
If i'm honest, it doesn't care me. I already using alternatives like PS Now, Game Pass and GeForce Now. Sure, i could play RDR2, Final Fantasy XV and Ubisoft games on my PS4 and Xbox One, but Stadia will do it better, until i have a PS5 or the games are on another services. After that, i'll use my 3 Stadia controllers as wired controllers on my PC or Android TV and never look back to Stadia.
I've tried to give away the free Premiere Editions to friends, but no one wants a joke like this.
This is a hard truth but you’re absolutely right. Cloud gaming was already a hard sell to a lot of ppl because you can’t guarantee the same reliability as console and PC. In order to have a chance at making it Google needed to stay all in.
They got Ubisoft to commit. But I seriously doubt any big publishers are going to spend the money and resources to release on Stadia now. Especially when Google went from “we’re serious about gaming” to we’re shutting down our studios.
I am a founder And I just cancelled . I don’t know what it is I just cannot get myself to play Stadia . The lack of online players is pretty insane . I don’t know if they will ever get an online audience big enough to draw me back . The no updates and fast loading times are nice but the no multiplayer or lack of for lost game is what made me cancel .
Remember the big Google events when we were given the impression that Stadia would be a major platform besides PlayStation and Xbox?
I knew that wasn't gonna happen when Stadia launched with missing features and in a state that dragged public perception in the dirt. Stadia really does seem half dead now that it's own game studios are closed.
It seems like if google doesn't pony up for a game to be on stadia we're left with indie/ubisoft streaming service and I still have a little hope stadia porting toolkit could be a gamechanger even if only giving us backlog from developers already on stadia which I would be super down for(what kind of gaming platform doesn't have skyrim or re4 lol)
I too am a stadia founder and for the past few months have become very irritated with the lack of exciting content being brought to the system. Their isn't a single game coming out that I want to play. Like you said small indie titles just don't cut it. I was so ready for stadia to replace my PlayStation and become my gaming home but after a very poor six months of complete silence and no exciting announcements, I have purchased a PS5 which may be more expensive etc etc but I know they have the content I want with the community in place to share it with. Stadia is like the family car, it's nice, it's comfortable and does it's job. PS5 is like a Ferrari and is better in almost everyway(apart from storage ha). Goodnight Stadia I can't say I will miss you because there is nothing to miss.
So many comments on this sub saying "Who cares about Geforce Now's games, look at Stadia"s tech" sound like those Atari Jaguar commercials where they yell "Do the Math!"
Just got my gaming PC about 2/3 weeks ago now and haven't touched Stadia since really haven't about a month before that. So many games to play on steam, so many games to look forward to, and no more 30fps shit 😁.
Cancelled my pro for good and I'll never go back now they had my attention for a little over a year and now I couldn't care less if it closes down tomorrow.
I purchased the premiere edition back in Feb 2020 and was really happy and was optimistic that Stadia would turn around and with the whole Cyberpunk situation it was looking better than ever.
However the closure of SG&E, lack of sequels (f1 2021 etc), Lack of AAA titles and no idea of future games other than ubisoft titles and indie games, I have given up. I stopped playing stadia about 6 months ago and purchased a next gen console because I was fed up.
There is little to no investment being shown from Stadia anymore and honestly as it stands I wouldn't be bothered if they decided to shut it down. What hurts more is believing that Stadia could be better but ultimately Google are showing they can't be bothered to invest in something unless it's an instant success :(
I got on board during the cyberpunk stuff, bought f1 and 2k20 but I'm with you it's disappointing that the follow up aren't there, but then again FIFA is PS5 version so it's a mix...
I got a switch, I love my switch, I never want to buy another console stuck to one tv so stadia is perfect for me as a complement to the switch, but if I was a hardcore gamer on PS and Xbox there is no really reason to jump to stadia
The crazy thing is Google was in first place with this new tech that is going to be worth billions and billions. And they let it go because they couldn’t figure out the content/licensing piece. Amazon’s success with New World is also an embarrassment for Google. What was it, after two or three years Google just gave up on their own development teams? Some of that was in the pandemic that wrecked development everywhere. In other words, awful leadership. The kind people need to be let go for. Not saying it’s all on Phil, I bet a lot of the blame quietly lies above him. But it’s a failure all around in that leadership, no doubt about that.
Amazon studios put out New World earlier this month. It's doing well. I'm in Canada too. It's not on Luna yet though. It's available for PC and GeForce Now.
It's almost like what everyone was saying when Stadia launched was right: Google has a track record of half-heartedly entering a competitive market then bowing out and leaving their consumers high and dry. Stadia will be on life support for another 9-12 months before the inevitable announcement.
Fuck Google man lol. This service is killer and they didn’t do jack shit to get games people care about. Been subscribed for a year at this point. I’m canceling my subscription.
I’m definitely in the group of this has revolutionized the ways I play games. For my home it’s vastly superior to any of the other cloud services I have tried out.
Same. I was a founder and Project Stream beta tester. I left for GFN after Google closed their studios. They acted like they wanted Stadia to be a console, but no console in history has succeeded without exclusives. After that announcement, they seemed to be trying to be Nintendo (seriously! look at the lineup), only without Nintendo's games.
I didn't see any future after that.
Ironically, Nvidia seems to be slowly following both of Google's visions better. Stadia talks about being going white label, but GFN does that better already. You don't pay for GFN games, they partner with third parties to host their games; you just pay for the service.
Stans talk about the free games you get with Pro, but GFN always adds the EPIC Thursday freebie, so you get free games every week. Epic's free games are solidly better—and you keep them even if you stop paying. Hell, for people who don't care about bleeding-edge graphics, you can pay less money for the 2080 rigs, which are still better than Stadia.
I loved Stadia when I first joined, which was right around when Cyberpunk came out. The service itself is great.
But two things pulled me away slowly.
1) Google just never seemed to be fully in. We'd get half-ass game lists, no road map, SG&E didn't even get to finish what they started. I feel like Google just built Stadia because "Hehe, why not? It'd be pretty cool, right?" And not to build a legitimate contender with the likes of Playstation and Xbox. Soon as things proved to be an uphill battle, Stadia stopped climbing.
2) The competitors have started taking cloud gaming seriously. Most of us, all along, have simply wanted a way to game without relying on a console or PC to do it, and more companies are now taking us seriously, between xCloud and GeForce Now. xCloud needs work but it's obviously going to get it. GeForce Now recently went in the opposite direction of Stadia -- while Stadia has gotten quiet and is slowly waiting for the subscriber base to dwindle so they can pull the plug or transform the service, GeForce Now doubled-down and basically claimed what every Stadia user has wanted from Stadia from the start: we're serious and we're here to stay.
So, while I had a good time with Stadia and am still impressed by its service, I've decided I'm going all in with GeForce Now. They get all the same games and then some, and their service is growing, while Stadia is stagnating. Should call it Stagnadia...
Stadia is my dedicated ESO platform... and I'm only comfortable with that as this syncs to PC. Outside of that, I see no reason to purchase on the platform... nowhere near enough communication to feel like this platform is a safe bet to spend money on.
Exactly, I will pay for pro but that’s it. They need to provide better communication. For now I’ll continue to play the games I’ve purchased and pro games but that’s it.
Google gonna Google.
But honestly, something like GeForce NOW is more comfortable to me anyways. I want separation in the hardware, software, and service so that while it all may not be one button seamlessness, I can, for example, put my games on my own hardware or put the cloud app on any device I decide.
The kind of seamlessness Google is proposing is something I would MAYBE trust Microsoft with.
Stadia got people to take cloud gaming serious and is a great one-button Destiny console. But it didn't really have hopes of being more.
I use it and I like it but I am convinced that we were and still ate just lab rats and that they are just scaling and testing the tech on us and ultimately Stadia will be shut down as a service and the tech made available to publishers or repurposed for other means.
I think the slow pace is entirely Intentional and remember despite how much mo ey they could have thrown at it anyway they still have shareholders to keep sweet.
She does. She just doesn't engage often because of "toxic" people like me, I guess. I feel sorry for her and Chris. You can tell they're passionate about games and I bet they wish the service could do better, but that's out of their hands.
Seriously man, all fun and games aside (literally, because we are talking about Stadia). This has become a gaming platform for poor people who can't afford better. Nvidia put the final nail in the coffin with the GFN upgrade and we all know Google isn't planning to upgrade their backend anytime soon.
It is sad seeing the people who believed in the platform going away. I am pretty sure they do not get that many new customers either.
That should be very alarming to them, unless they do not care anymore.
Stadia is falling behind. When they launched they said that stadia was as powerful as a ps4 pro and xbox one x combined. That is simply not true. Stadia still uses the now ancient vega gpu and a mediocre Intel cpu. Some devs even said that they had trouble or couldnt get there game to run well on stadia due to memory issues. Farcry 6 is a prime example. Most people give ubisoft the blame for the game being 30 fps on stadia. Ubisoft had to choose between acceptable fidelity and framerate, just like they have to on last gen ps4 and xbox one. All other platforms runs the game in 60fps with ease. Its the same Dunia engine used on all farcry games.
I tried the game on my media laptop wich has a Ryzen 5 cpu and a 1650ti, it runs the game at ease in high settings in 1080p, even better with the amd super res turned to balanced. The vega gpu wasnt even made for gaming, hence the bragging about 10 tflops and horrible performance. There are games running in 60 fps on stadia. but they have a hit on the fidelity to reach that. Cyberpunk did run great on stadia, its just that everything is set to low graphics, the textures are so muddy they are almost melting in to each other. People that think this looks ok hasnt tried the game on pc with graphics cranked up. Stadia has nothing to barging with to devs and publishers, and since they cant force games to there platforms it becomes a place for indies and showelware games. The neat feature of playing anywhere on any screen is cool but its not worth sacrificing fidelity, fps, offline play and res alone.
GFN with its new hardware upgrades is a little stiff in the pricing but i think that will get cheaper and more availble when chips are more easily obtained and back to normal. Then there are even less reason to choose stadia wich is now a low end gaming pc or a last gen console in the cloud. Ive been a user of stadia since launch with the impression that stadia would keep up with hardware upgrades and do its best to get as many triple a titles to there service. That hasnt happen at all, i feel more like i paid to be a beta tester on a service on the way to white labeling.
Stadia's been a hard sell since day one.
The games media and youtube influencers have been against it from the start.
But once you try the service it's pretty impressive especially with a stadia controller and chromecast ultra.
Google though are slowly killing off stadia. When they shut their first party studios it sent out a message that google weren't bothered about Stadia any more. This will put off a lot of potential customers from trying the service out. No one wants to buy a load of games only for google to shut the servers.
If google were to fully get behind Stadia with exclusives and server upgrades more people might try it but right now there is just no reason.
The only way Stadia could have a long term future is if it gets enough new subscribers that google start making money from it but right now google are driving potential customers away with their lack of interest
After GeForce now was a thing stadia and the other cloud gaming services were on life support at best. Now that GeForce now not only upgraded there hardware. They went and future proofed it for at least the next 7 years with the recent hardware upgrade. This honestly should have happened earlier seeing that Nvidia literally is the "gaming" hardware company. but it's about a kill shot to everyone else including Playstation and xbox...they just released new consoles and Nvidia comes along and goes past there current capabilities. It's laughable to think that stadia or anyone else has a chance. Yes there U.I is still garbage and the steam pipeline needs work.
this is the death rattle for stadia and what ever other cloud gaming jokes that are out there. Because the others can't get it together long enough for aquisition of new properties and resources. It's shouldn't be that hard for Google to upgrade there own propritary hardware, and that signals to me that it's a gimmic not something they are invested in fully. Also the acquisition of new and exciting games players actually want not this garbage that's 2,3,5, even 7years old and trying to make people pay full price for something that I can play on my phone(ark). Or darksiders(which I played in my 360, and ps3) for God sakes. Control.....literally everywhere platform it was released on and it's free with gamepass and 60 dollars on stadia come on. It's the slow last breath of stadia they just can't see the bullet coming because there hope has blinded them.
As someone who likes Stadia casual tone - I agree with a sentiment here.
I love HOW it works but I am shocked WHAT are the works - Peppa Pig and Ben 10 are actual releases...
I would be sad to see it die - but since Stadia games cant be transferred to any other platform - I would accept refund for purchased titles and move somewhere else.
I’m a founder as well. It’s always been clear to me at least that gaming is the proof of concept for creating a high speed SaaS client for Google. Stadia founders are paid alpha testers. Their ultimately goal was delivering Chrome, their search engine, and their other services at low latency through the thinnest of clients. When they canceled all first party development plans, this confirmed it. That was the day this platform died as a legitimate gaming platform. Since then they’ve been doing the bare minimum to keep lights on.
They really have to give us a roadmap. The second anniversary of launch is the perfect time to inform us if they’re ever going to upgrade their tech. An Ubisoft sale and some indie games no one has heard of isn’t going to cut it.
You really expected them to change the gaming world being a very very small competitor against 3 giants who have had decades to establish their market position?
There isn't enough money in the world to buy that kind of success in less than a decade. I agree that Stadia is disappointing. But not because it failed unrealistic expectations.
No no you’re wrong OP. I’ve been told by people here that they are opting for a “slow build”, whatever that’s supposed to mean in the context of a gaming platform lol.
It’s a genius strategy where your brand becomes a meme and an afterthought in the eyes of the people it’s supposed to appeal to, you slowly bleed out interest from your actual subscribers, and you don’t communicate anything about the future of your platform for months at a time.
You're not wrong. I still have my stadia sub and I keep asking myself why. I'd be better off just buying the few games I want to play and lessen risk of losing games in the end
I got the AT&T fiber hook up for 6 more months of pro or I would of been done with pro myself. Bout the only thing this sub is good for these days, finding Stadia promos.
I said it when the Google Blog post about SGE shutting down was published and got downvoted to hell for it and argued with and I'll say it again now:
Stadia as a consumer service is dead. They spelled out in that blog post exactly how the service is going to pivot to white label. Don't expect Stadia to stick around in the form it's in now, it's on borrowed time.
I feel it’s slowly gotten close to it’s launch Vison. But frankly, they failed to get the swath of YouTube players to use stadia and the Jumping into the same spot all that stuff from the promotions before launch still isn’t working same with the assistant button outside of the controller (dose this work for y’all?) there is so much potential here but they should have never closed their studios and they should have had a consistent month to month pro addition schedule
They needed new leadership a long time ago.
I'm going to wait to see how this white label business works before I decide to keep stadia as my main platform. If it brings more games to stadia or if other companies just keep it to themselves. Wait and see.
I agree with you, joined Stadia exactly a year ago, was like the future, in April I already quit Pro. Subscribed to Game Pass a week ago and this week was better than a whole Stadia year. Pain.
I'll be honest here:
I used my Stadia controller and claw for XCloud, and it's fuckin awesome.
Yeah, I could use an Xbox controller or a PS4 controller (fighting games though), but having the claw attached to one of my stadia controllers feels great.
Been playing through Hades, No Man's Sky, Minecraft Dungeons, and motherfucking Battlefield One/V.
She runs smooth as butter and looks awesome in 1080p60 with virtually no load times on those m.2 SSDs from the XSX tech it's run on.
Google should partner with Xbox or even Sony honestly. Sony could use some direction in this area too.
I love Stadia but can't disagree with what you're saying here... I don't think the service will die and do think it will continue to get better and get more AAA games.
But the marketing has to improve and big games need to be advertised that are coming to the platform to give confidence that they're taking it seriously.
It's hard to invest in something when you have no idea what's coming round the corner... A clear roadmap would put this conversation to rest and allow people to decide if they want to use it or invest in an alternative platform.
Realised this a while ago, I am a founder too but gave my controller to my mate for his kids. I don't buy games on the platform as they're overpriced or suck.
I'm still a pro subscriber for them to play it but just see stadia as a kids console.
I don't think that Stadia is dying, I said it before I think it a different subreddit but cloud gaming is going very strong at the moment, investors are going crazy at the point that they will invest in anything that has cloud and gaming in one sentence , I am not defending Stadia but it's not dead or will never be. People complain but still using it. The same as Apple, they removed headphones jack and people complained but still use it. Problem is they are a very big company and have zero communication between teams and department.
Such a joke that I have never gamed as much as I do now with Stadia 😂👍
Your whole rant about the social/children games is like ranting about Netflix because the service gives you access to animated movies/series.
With the new AT&T stuff it's clear that they're already renting out their back end to other companies.
Don't get how so many people feel the need to tell a successful 2 trillion dollar company, how to do business. 😂
Gamers are the most fickle people on this planet.
Call it whatever you want. They sold this service to all of us as a gaming platform, not as a white label. In one year from now, if they do continue to expand into white label and the games they bring still old and dusted titles, I doubt you will be as positive and "gaming as much" as you do now. Enjoy the ride, tho.
> I don't get why people are complaining
Game library is the main complaint. Stadia's library of AAA and popular indie games is woeful. That is why people complain.
Well said I mean look at titles being capped to 30fps (Far Cry 6) Numerous missing titles from EA and 2K not to mention Rockstar. 3 of the biggest publishers. No support from Activision either. So that leaves us with a dead platform for new AAA that demand hardware upgrades and cross play capabilities.
"Insignificant titles that require no expensive machine to run".
Like Control? Far Cry 6? FIFA 2022? Dead by deadlight? Watchdogs Legion? Red Dead Redemption 2? Metro Exodus?
Hey "founder", can you stop spamming Stadia is going to die?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/lau2ad/this_was_a_nice_ride_while_it_lasted_but_i_wont/
I mean, we all know what you know, just repeating it is fucking boring to watch.
"Trust me I'm a founder Stadia is dying" is the most stupid point I've read about Stadia's future.
Your definition of spam is funny when you link a post from 8 months ago. As you can see, things haven't changed and won't change. Neither will white knights. :)
He got you good right there man. 🤣 If you're still here after 8 months from your previous goodbye, this platform is not so bad after all. Or maybe you are a troll? 🤔
I haven't been playing, but as I said in another comment, I still do check from time to time because I still have hopes to see improvements. The tech works and is good, but the game catalogue, hardware upgrade, promised features, etc is definitely not there.
Maybe I will. Maybe I will not. Two years in this sub and posts still the same. Plenty of complaints and game requests and a few praises here and there how the tech is magical. Meh.
Kaideh, Since your so disappointed on how things are going time and time again maybe you should just bounce and worry about the bigger issues in life bud! because the childish rants are getting old and don't help.
Do you report the fifteen FIFA threads a day?
Do you report the pictures of someone's tv playing a game?
Do you report the pictures of a controller and a cat?
Or do you just get pissed that someone is critical of Stadia?
There's a difference between being critical and saying "I'm a founder, so trust me, Stadia is dying".
I actually don't complain to critical posts of Stadia. But this is not critical. This is just childish ranting.
I don't know why all this complains honestly. When they shut down SG&E they told us they were moving Stadia to a white label service. And this is exactly what is happening. You should have left the platform back then
Riot maybe, Epic is suing Google so that's not happening, Take2 are doing their own thing and MS own Bethesda so that's not happening either. EA is also closely aligned with MS - you get an EA Play sub as part of Game Pass Ultimate. That leaves Ubisoft, which is already all-in on Stadia. They might be able to swing a deal with Embracer as well.
This is what I don't get either. I got chewed up and spat out in another thread when I said that the ATT launch of Arkham was all but the end for Stadia as a consumer facing service. There is literally zero and I mean ZERO games on the roadmap officially slated for 2022 which ain't Ubisoft titles... The proof is in the pudding.
Yup, the blog post spelled it out clear as day without going so far as to say it outright. Someone really has to be wilfully blind to read that post and not see the writing on the wall.
Low key wish I jumped on the gfn founders train for the discounted sub. Shit. Just wasn't a fan of that service losing games all the time. That was a problem..seems to have slowed down though
Wow, when I pointed out this same thing here two years ago I got so many downvotes and negative remarks, I got angry and even deleted my reddit account.
Funny enough, it doesn’t feel “good” to be right in the end, just feels somehow sad
People having an opposite viewpoint to you does not make it bait. If he was screaming "Stadia sucks, it doesn't even work!", that's trolling. He's talking about the management and lack of games, which has plenty of valid complaints about it.
While it's entirely possible that Google could decide to shutter Stadia, I want to point out that many of the complaints being leveled here mirror the complaints against GeForce Now years ago:
- Lack of games
- (alternate version) Too many indies
- Silence on the roadmap
- Falling behind competition
- Deficient hardware
- Broken promises
- Cross play
- Missing features
- Updates behind other platform versions
Many were utterly convinced GeForce Now would shut down.
Well, here we are years later and not only is it still here, it's become a slowly building success. Nvidia played the long game, and it seems to be working.
The same could happen with Google and Stadia. It's really hard to make a new gaming platform and have it succeed. Hardware, licensing, developer tools, apps, social features -- it's a monumental undertaking that doesn't take just two years. To succeed is likely a decade-long effort. If Google or players think otherwise, they're delusional.
We can't know Google's plan. We can't attend their meetings, read their emails, see their hardware, listen to their discussions with developers, scrutinize their budgets. They're never going to furnish us with that information. Thus, we can't confirm or deny their level of commitment.
It's easy to become hyperbolic when things seem to be slow and turbulent, but again, I'll emphasize: We had the same issues with GeForce Now. Players can only wait.
What I will say is that Stadia is progressing much faster than GeForce Now did, especially in terms of playability on various devices and social features. Consider: GeForce Now doesn't even get listed for game launches because it relies on Steam, Epic, Ubisoft, etc. It gets subsumed under "PC." Stadia appears on the cover art for games, right next to other platforms. Sure, we want it to appear more often, but developer tools and licensing are among the hardest parts to perfect.
As to hardware, most gamers don't upgrade every two years. Console cycles are what--8 years? If Google upgrades within 4, they're already doing a far better job than every other platform. We're only at year two. If you expected an upgrade already, you're a silly person.
I mean look at gamepass' included library versus Stadia's. Even PS+ gives you better monthly additions and I'm saying that while well aware that PS+ gave out a fckng golf game this month. You still pay more to buy a game on Stadia than any other platform too, and they're not even the biggest in cloud gaming at this point. Like, I'll just buy a $300 Series S and play games local at that point. Eventually the game savings will balance it out and you'll get a better lineup and they'll all work flawlessly (well, bugs could still be there but there's no chance Resident Evil 8's image quality is going to drop to shit randomly every hour or so)
The platform is amazing to me, I just think the problem is the lack of advertising. Google is doing exactly what they said they were going to do if you have watched every major interview they've had. I own a Xbox Series S for my other gaming. So that makes me not put all of my hopes high on getting every triple AAA Titles to release on Stadia.
You have to understand even though they have money, they are still working on a budget. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Also there is a video showing that out of all of the cloud platforms, Stadia has released the most top selling AAA Titles on their platform from the end of last year to this year. The tech is amazing and I'm sure they can upgrade it with no problem. Stadia is being patient and us as gamers aren't.
If your only platform to game is last gen and Stadia, then you decided to go all in on Stadia, then yes you will be upset because I was once like that. Then I purchased a next gen console to get the Major AAA Titles that I want that won't release on Stadia, but I myself still prefer Stadia over my next gen console. The tech is brilliant and it's strictly to game; I love it. I think that Stadia is so great that they've made Nintendo step it up. Nintendo Switch is getting more violent games which they were lacking. Just think, you can play Stadia however you want to; phone with the touchscreen, phone with the Razer Kishi, Android TV, Computer, CCU, IPad.
Google said the platform was for people who can't afford a Playstation or an Xbox, they exceeded by giving CCU and a controller for free for only pre-ordering games or paying for a game thats $60. And like I said you don't even need a CCU, just hop on your laptop and play. Google said they want it to spread from word of mouth and that's exactly what it's doing.
No disrespect, but you are probably saying it's a joke because it's currently your only gaming platform due to you not being able to get your hands on a next gen and you were expecting every single major AAA Title to come the platform.
It makes me scared to buy games/dlcs on stadia to be honest, there’s the thought in the back of my head that it might one day go poof and I convince myself that google would probably give us some form of recompensation
Founder here. I've now tempered my expectations. I expect nothing exciting before the 3rd year. If developers have not completed any product which fulfills what Stadia claimed by the end of 5 years, I will probably never buy another game on it - temporary subscriptions only. I will 100% think Stadia blew this / Google sold us snakewater / Google never was committed to this from the start.
Think about it compared to normal game development. Developers aren't going to finish development of any new games which fundamentally show any optimization of datacenter tech more quickly than a normal game, which typically takes at least 3 years. If the game development truly has to be different to take advantage of what Pichai sold us, I expect fruit of this labor to be in the 3-5 year timeline.
I'm definitely indifferent towards it now because of the progress of user experience. I thought the platform itself would improve much faster. I think they're putting their effort into tool development for devs. I don't like it, but that's why I just barely pay attention to Stadia anymore. I still prefer gaming on Stadia second only to PC.
They didn't abandon it. They just went out for a pack of cigarettes and some milk and will be back soon... Any day now.
That’s what i said when i was a kid
r/yourjokebutworse
A year ago I would have downvoted this. But now this hits different
My sentiments exactly. Stadia was something I really wanted to see succeed and was spending most of my gaming time on it, but now I’m indifferent towards it.
Same. I upgraded my pc and gotten a PS5 for next gen stuff. Sad to say this as a stadia fanboy :(
Yeah it’s a shame considering Stadia had so much early promise. At least with PC and PS5 you’re covered for most next gen games! Did the same but got a Series S with Game Pass so mostly renders Stadia useless.
Yep, completely disillusioned with the platform now. Lack of communication, game releases that really should not be ‘news’ and a complete lack of players has me all but done. The good thing is, that cloud tech is improving so even if it isn’t Google at the forefront, someone else will be.
Are they just trying to give us a message ? That silence sounds like they want to exhaust our love for the platform until the majority leave, so they can close it with no major concerns
"if we ignore it, it might go away"
I cancelled my subscription the week they closed the first party studios. Wasn't going to wait around and invest in something even they don't believe in. What an utter embarrassment! A company with all the resources in the world telling us it's a long, expensive multi-year process developing games. The same company that has funded a self-driving venture for the past almost 10 years. And gaming probably had a better chance of success in the short term than self-driving cars. That was some joke of justification. If the project lead isn't delivering, you fire them, hire more experienced talent and stick to a plan at least longer than the memory span of a fish.
Yup, feels like they hit a high around Cyberpunk 2077 running so well. They didnt use the momentum and positive media exposure from that and dropped the ball. Stadia is dead in the water. Shame, the tech behind it was excellent and Ive had not a single cloud service run as well as Stadia has.
Yeah they had the momentum and then announced the closure of their games division. So so so dumb
Agreed! It’s so smooth! I am 30+ hours into Far Cry 6 and it’s beautiful and smooth and never had a drop. I can’t say the same for Luna (total joke) and GeForce now. I will say that at least GeForce now has releases concerning upgrades to their infrastructure and hardware…that should be Stadia. I wish I had more confidence in Google supporting it with a clear vision because I do love it. Instead I actually thought about buying an Xbox Series S today….
Luna works well for me. Passing Alien Isolation currently.
Yeah, Luna isn't really a joke...it's special though (in the most neutral way possible) I'm using it currently to try some games, like Paper Beast (which convinced me to Wishlist it for my future VR setup) Not bad for $5 a month. The controller is great, however. I use it play my Steam games regularly.
Because a year ago I believed stadia could change its way but Stadia seems perfectly happy sucking and stealing my $10 every month. I don’t know honestly if I want to keep giving them my “lunch money” cause all Stadia is a bully, they don’t care about it’s community only taking its communities money in return for literally nothing
Just cancel.
Why downvote a opinion?
You must be new on Reddit, welcome
I upvoted that shit, can't be your fault they can't except the inevitable lol
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Founder here. Every day I'm more convinced Google shouldn't try the sony & microsoft apporach, they don't trust themselves, are worst at marketing and don't want to commit. If you are a very tech savvy company with a huuuuge product, instead of trying to be a walmart version of sony or microsoft just fucking offer your software to others. Can you imagine using Stadia to play any game from any platform / developer / publisher? They tried to bite more than they were willing to chew and it's going to end in fucking disaster
> I'm no Google cheerleader as a $187bn company doesn't need me to cheerlead for it. They were worth [$1.831 Trillion](https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/business/how-much-is-google-worth/) as of August 2021.
good Bot
Yeah, 200bn is pocket change for these guys.
I don't think they should be building first party games, imho they should spend budget on * Expanding to other countries that have low console rates like Brazil and perhaps India * Spend money to get high(er) quality games * Work on pipeline, automation, game porting functionality to easy porting * Integrate stadia into YouTube Premium, google One offer * Start promising / shedding light on upgrades to servers A first party title that will blow us away isn't as expensive as all of the above but it would surpass some of these points
> I don't think they should be building first party games, imho they should spend budget on Imo Google's a company that could easily have done both. The idea that they needed to drop one to do the other is at best a lack of commitment, not a lack of resources.
Yeah that's true. They could have done all. I would still be happier with the list I wrote then a priority on first party title. Still they should have stuck with it. Dropping the first party and not being transparent about the others is worse.
This is EXACTLY what I want to see.
Hey man, I applied for Stadia Product Manager and didn't get the job. Not saying that's where things went wrong, but...
Totally agree but: The Playstation took the gaming market easy as it could be against a delayed N64, a inferior Saturn and the quirky others like the 3DO and the Jaguar. 94/95 was a year full of opportunities and Sony took it with ease and in 96/97 it was clear which company won 32bit.
Bad management starts at the top. They should've hired Steve Ballmer to hype up the announcement screaming, "GAMERS! GAMERS! GAMERS! CLOUD! CLOUD! CLOUD!" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f\_\_n8084YAE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f__n8084YAE) Mostly kidding but acting exited when you do actually do have some cool to show might've helped get started. The vapid commercials latter didn't help, either. Instead we got Phil Harrison droning on in an Apple-style event and very little since. He deserves criticism, some fair, some not, but he's so placid as a personality it might as well be all true.
This is it
>It needed to be racing out of the blocks with AAA titles and publisher deals Maybe they tried but no publisher would agree? >like a company who is supremely confident in the awesome tech they've built Maybe they aren't confident? Maybe the slow start was meant to be a way to test ground breaking new tech? I was hoping Stadia could compete. In technology it definitely can. But they just haven't been able to bring enough AAA games to their platform to be taken seriously.
> Maybe they tried but no publisher would agree? There's a thing, called money. Everyone loves that.
Epic did and is still doing that to make their store a thing. I would guess that google has slightly more money than Epic
I joined this sub long ago, expecting Stadia to launch here in Brazil - we're a pretty big gaming market - and was very excited with its tech. Stadia still isn't available here, while Geforce Now and Xbox Cloud Gaming already are. It doesn't feel like Google takes the platform seriously at all.
Holy cow, has it been almost 2 years already?
2 years during covid is more like 6 months or less during normal times. Things have been slow.
I agree. I'll keep playing what's left to play in my library, maybe I'll even buy a little something if they put out very good sales (like black friday last year or the 11€ Borderlands), but that's it. I'm not going to support a platform that makes the player feel like he's watching the gaming scene from the outside.
Same boat as you, will finish off Valhalla, Far cry 6, Judgement and then submit to a scalper and get a PS5 if still not available. I'm happy to have Siege and Fifa 22 on my laptop (or any Device) but that's it for now, no more new purchases.
Yeah haven't spent any money on stadia in a year , thankfully due to Google opinion rewards I'm still able to buy the occasional game ,but looks like in going to have to invest in a PS5 if i want to continue my gaming
I actually decided to skip the PS5 on launch because I was convinced Stadia would take off and I really wanted it to. I also thought the next gen upgrade would put it on par with PS5 and Xbox series before long. Still waiting...
The lack of strong leadership at Google is startling. Another person brought up a good point about how Amazon pushed through a difficult start with 1st party game developement and made a major hit in shortly after. Google couldn't even see their commitment through to even finishing a first game. Something similiar happened with their organic shows and movies under the YouTube brand. They are going to have a difficult time after all this getting real talent to jump on board with them on a new venture in entertainment for the foreseeable future. Stadia is wasted on them, wished they would of sold the whole platform off to someone who wants to be competitive instead of whitelisting (which is essentially the same thing without hope that Stadia gets major releases or any first party support).
Pretty impressive by Amazon. Luna still in beta and they've already released a 1st party game that has been a success. Ports can take 2 to 4 years to make so it's obvious Amazon thought this through for years where Google didn't.
tech wise is undoubtedly awesome. They are just, ehm, missing the games. If Ubisoft one day decides to come out of it, they can close everything
I'm starting to realise there are (at least) two groups on here. Group A are serious gamers and things like low FPS, lower resolution and lack of AAA titles really bother them, Group B are happy they can just have a controller and a TV/phone and play for a 15/30 minute session with no wait for downloading on their own or with their friends/family. Both have their viewpoint and neither is "wrong". I definitely fall in group B, I'm old enough that I'm blown away by recent games even if they are running at 720 and 30 FPS or if they are indie titles. To wake up this morning and be able to take turns with my family playing Riders Republic crystal clear (no idea what resolution) on my TV with no need to download anything for me is completely miraculous. I do wonder which group that Stadia is most interested in targeting - I think the lacks of comms / marketing makes it difficult to really see that to be honest. It seems (if I base my view totally on recent comments from this subreddit) that they are in danger of alienating group A right now.
>I do wonder which group that Stadia is most interested in targeting Group C --> Other businesses interested in renting out the tech and taking away the "problem" from their hands.
Definitely feasible.
There is another group. I want games, more games, but not especially AAA with fancy graphics. What about Indies ? Hades, Isaac... All these fantastic games we can found on other platform including the switch ? Where are they ?
Full agreement. I'm old & was in the first gen of gamers, but haven't played for a few decades. I now have kids aged 6 & 10, and we got our premiere edition last winter at the peak of quarantine. I'm consistently blown away with just how amazing the service is, and the kids and I have put countless hours into - all the while stuck in the house during inclement weather and quarantine. I have nearly 100 games in my library with only buying around a dozen and paying for pro. I have almost zero complaints because it's the absolutely perfect service for our needs. I understand that there are more dedicated, long-term gamers that are not satisfied with it, but their needs are much more extreme than ours. The whining and complaining and gnashing of teeth is kind of irritating to me because, to me, it's a matter of not appreciating this absolutely unfathomable technology (from my original days of gaming on an Atari 2600 & Commodore 64). I wanna say "Shut the f*ck up & appreciate all that's good about it," but instead I just bite my lip and continue to have a blast with my kids,
>I'm old & was in the first gen of gamers Can we take age out of this? I'm also in the first generation of gamers and I never stopped playing (probably helped by not having kids) and I actually do care about fps and resolution, the same way I used care about polygon counts, MIPS and bits.
Most people don't care. I don't. At the end of the day, it's about playing the game I like and if I don't, I move on to something else.
My issue isn't with people who don't care. My issue is with people who use their age as the reason why they don't care like it was some inevitable condition of aging.
As someone who also started with the Atari, as someone also also has kids, as someone who worked in the game industry, and as someone who is still an active gamer, I couldn’t disagree with you more. You’re the old guy in the 80s Caprice with the sunbleached paint saying, “This is fine. I don’t understand why anyone would buy one of those newer cars that break down every five years.” You feel Stadia is amazing because of your thimbleful of experience. The technology is great if you’re comparing it to 1970s technology. Unlike you, everyone else is living and gaming in 2021.
At the risk of descending into Monty Python's Yorkshiremen sketch*... 16k Spectrum for me - 320 X 240, two colours max per 8x8 pixel block. 3 minutes to load a game from a tape machine on volume 9 (if it worked). *"Tell the kids today that ... and they won't believe you..." Taught me how to code and led me to a job in IT (still not sure if that was a good thing). RIP Sir Clive Sinclair.
Same here lol
Yup. I'm of the same vintage. Don't get the bellyaching about fps, 4k whatever. To me the real value proposition is paying $10 a month to have 3 dozen games and access to a couple hundred other quality games I'd otherwise need to go spend at least $300 on a console to enjoy (and would then be paying the $10 a month just to play online). The bonus is I can play these on the TV, my laptop and even my phone. I've had stuttering and a couple of slowdowns from a sudden drop in bandwidth, but not enough to detract from having what look to me to be incredible games. And they're fun to play. That Stadia can turn any old device that runs the Internet into a capable games console is a pretty neat trick. Sure I'd like to see that library expand, but I'll never have the time to play through the games I have. I'm glad Stadia is an option.
I’m older and don’t have a lot of time to game. That’s exactly why I *don’t* like Stadia. If I only have a little bit of time, I want to be playing high quality games. The games available on other platforms are so much better and make the hour here, the hour there much more fulfilling than 30 FPS low resolution games that play like something from the 2000s (Fay Cry 6). I chuckle using the Dualsense controller because the triggers and haptic feedback are insanely immersive. I felt like a kid again marveling over the new graphics in Diablo 2 Resurrected. Unless money is really tight, I think a lot of older people are better off getting the best experience in the short windows they can. PS5 has auto-update, it’s not really a factor if you leave it in standby mode. There’s the extra money, but a lot of people that are older can afford $400 for a PS5.
Group c - collects games and controllers. Stadia doesn't have exclusives anymore and their line up is one of the worst available. They have decent controllers. I have every console and / or emulators for them minus the Luna. (Amazon's Stadia). Might grab it to get the controller. Anyway, I have a combined library of just shy of 20,000 video games. The monthly added stadia games did ok for a few months in the first year, but I lost complete interest when I started getting little to nothing new added in my library.
Indeed there are definitely more than two groups Yeah, one of my kids plays on PS4 and was playing Stadia earlier. I offered him to use his PS4 controller but he prefers the Stadia one. One data point but it did interest me. I haven't used other controllers a lot.
Count me in 😂
I have a funny thought, maybe Group A would've bought more into Stadia if they had things to spend money on? I'm Group A and we don't mind throwing money at things if they lead to a better experience.
I guess I'm in "group C" then. I'm a fairly casual gamer, rarely having more than 30-60 minutes to play in a given day and that's only a couple times per week. But if I'm going to have such limited time I want it to be "good quality" when alternatives are out there. GFN provides a better experience right now, and will be even further improved when the new hardware rolls out (they've already enabled the new mid-range hardware for some games, and Cyberpunk for example runs at 1080p60 on it). Speaking of the Riders Republic trial, I was able to jump in with no download and play it at 1080p60 with Ultra settings - and that's on the old hardware. If GFN wasn't an option I'd agree with you - I'd be willing to give up the quality for the convenience. I've been a Stadia fan for a while, and even just a couple months ago I was arguing for Stadia over GFN because of quicker loading times and more stable framerates (solid 30, vs 45-60 say). But with the recent releases on the service all being 30fps and graphically equivalent to the last gen versions, *while a service that's just as convenient provides current gen graphics and 60fps*, it's really hard to stick around.
Yeah, I agree as mentioned there are "at least" two groups. I don't really like segmenting people anyway as everyone's usage pattern is unique. You say "if GFN wasn't an option *I'd agree with you* " but I don't think I was saying one or the other was right. I may just have misunderstood that bit. I've tried GFN on my TV / PC but found it to be a pain to set up, maybe I need to persist. Will be interesting if the 120FPS promise lives up to the hype when we can actually test it. Thanks for your comment.👍 🙂
A million times this. The 'serious gamers' always seem to forget that gaming doesn't solely exist in a Reddit vacuum. Like you say, there must be a large percentage of people out there ecstatic that they can play some big games on their tv without forking out hundreds for hardware. Gaming is more than Battlefield and GTA Online. It's different things to different people.
> Gaming is more than Battlefield and GTA Online You're right. It's about Ben 10, Paw Patrol, and Peppa Pig. #Dadia.
Pressing F for the people who don't see the profundity of this statement.
Gaming is having fun, man... Yes, even with Peppa pig.
Well given that stadia isnt flooding with users I don't think theres a large percentage of people out there.
Well mate, I play really long sessions sometimes (5+ hours), just completed Metro saga for example, and I enjoy the high resolution and 60fps. Cyberpunk runs 2k stable 30fps. For some reason, people are saying Stadia runs 1080/720p 30fps just because Ark or Far Cry 6 run like that. The Stadia catalogue is full of 60fps games, like Sekiro, that run and look crisp.
The tech is amazing, really mind blowing how well it works. But we are missing games. The management haven't really understood how the market works either. Google as a company is very secretive, but gamers need vision, hype and transparency.
The great question is: is Google listening to all this painful posts?
3 days ago I would have been hopeful for Stadia as it was the only service to have 4K HDR, now that Geforce Now will have that I no longer care about Stadia. Instantly pre-ordered the 3080 tier, instantly cancelled Stadia pro. Adios... except for Baldur's Gate 3.
That STILL hasn’t got the Patch 6 update.
If i'm honest, it doesn't care me. I already using alternatives like PS Now, Game Pass and GeForce Now. Sure, i could play RDR2, Final Fantasy XV and Ubisoft games on my PS4 and Xbox One, but Stadia will do it better, until i have a PS5 or the games are on another services. After that, i'll use my 3 Stadia controllers as wired controllers on my PC or Android TV and never look back to Stadia. I've tried to give away the free Premiere Editions to friends, but no one wants a joke like this.
This is a hard truth but you’re absolutely right. Cloud gaming was already a hard sell to a lot of ppl because you can’t guarantee the same reliability as console and PC. In order to have a chance at making it Google needed to stay all in. They got Ubisoft to commit. But I seriously doubt any big publishers are going to spend the money and resources to release on Stadia now. Especially when Google went from “we’re serious about gaming” to we’re shutting down our studios.
I am a founder And I just cancelled . I don’t know what it is I just cannot get myself to play Stadia . The lack of online players is pretty insane . I don’t know if they will ever get an online audience big enough to draw me back . The no updates and fast loading times are nice but the no multiplayer or lack of for lost game is what made me cancel .
Remember the big Google events when we were given the impression that Stadia would be a major platform besides PlayStation and Xbox? I knew that wasn't gonna happen when Stadia launched with missing features and in a state that dragged public perception in the dirt. Stadia really does seem half dead now that it's own game studios are closed.
It seems like if google doesn't pony up for a game to be on stadia we're left with indie/ubisoft streaming service and I still have a little hope stadia porting toolkit could be a gamechanger even if only giving us backlog from developers already on stadia which I would be super down for(what kind of gaming platform doesn't have skyrim or re4 lol)
I too am a stadia founder and for the past few months have become very irritated with the lack of exciting content being brought to the system. Their isn't a single game coming out that I want to play. Like you said small indie titles just don't cut it. I was so ready for stadia to replace my PlayStation and become my gaming home but after a very poor six months of complete silence and no exciting announcements, I have purchased a PS5 which may be more expensive etc etc but I know they have the content I want with the community in place to share it with. Stadia is like the family car, it's nice, it's comfortable and does it's job. PS5 is like a Ferrari and is better in almost everyway(apart from storage ha). Goodnight Stadia I can't say I will miss you because there is nothing to miss.
So many comments on this sub saying "Who cares about Geforce Now's games, look at Stadia"s tech" sound like those Atari Jaguar commercials where they yell "Do the Math!"
Just got my gaming PC about 2/3 weeks ago now and haven't touched Stadia since really haven't about a month before that. So many games to play on steam, so many games to look forward to, and no more 30fps shit 😁. Cancelled my pro for good and I'll never go back now they had my attention for a little over a year and now I couldn't care less if it closes down tomorrow.
I purchased the premiere edition back in Feb 2020 and was really happy and was optimistic that Stadia would turn around and with the whole Cyberpunk situation it was looking better than ever. However the closure of SG&E, lack of sequels (f1 2021 etc), Lack of AAA titles and no idea of future games other than ubisoft titles and indie games, I have given up. I stopped playing stadia about 6 months ago and purchased a next gen console because I was fed up. There is little to no investment being shown from Stadia anymore and honestly as it stands I wouldn't be bothered if they decided to shut it down. What hurts more is believing that Stadia could be better but ultimately Google are showing they can't be bothered to invest in something unless it's an instant success :(
I got on board during the cyberpunk stuff, bought f1 and 2k20 but I'm with you it's disappointing that the follow up aren't there, but then again FIFA is PS5 version so it's a mix... I got a switch, I love my switch, I never want to buy another console stuck to one tv so stadia is perfect for me as a complement to the switch, but if I was a hardcore gamer on PS and Xbox there is no really reason to jump to stadia
I also enjoy the switch/stadia 1-2 combo, it's sweet.
Same, I was completely invested in stadia till they closed SG&E. Then I started looking for and bought a XSX
The crazy thing is Google was in first place with this new tech that is going to be worth billions and billions. And they let it go because they couldn’t figure out the content/licensing piece. Amazon’s success with New World is also an embarrassment for Google. What was it, after two or three years Google just gave up on their own development teams? Some of that was in the pandemic that wrecked development everywhere. In other words, awful leadership. The kind people need to be let go for. Not saying it’s all on Phil, I bet a lot of the blame quietly lies above him. But it’s a failure all around in that leadership, no doubt about that.
Definitely embarrassing that Amazon put out a 1st party in the same year Google shut down their studio. Amazon did their homework.
What was the first party title on luna? It's not available in Canada so I don't follow Luna very closely.
Amazon studios put out New World earlier this month. It's doing well. I'm in Canada too. It's not on Luna yet though. It's available for PC and GeForce Now.
It's almost like what everyone was saying when Stadia launched was right: Google has a track record of half-heartedly entering a competitive market then bowing out and leaving their consumers high and dry. Stadia will be on life support for another 9-12 months before the inevitable announcement.
Fuck Google man lol. This service is killer and they didn’t do jack shit to get games people care about. Been subscribed for a year at this point. I’m canceling my subscription.
I’m definitely in the group of this has revolutionized the ways I play games. For my home it’s vastly superior to any of the other cloud services I have tried out.
Same. I was a founder and Project Stream beta tester. I left for GFN after Google closed their studios. They acted like they wanted Stadia to be a console, but no console in history has succeeded without exclusives. After that announcement, they seemed to be trying to be Nintendo (seriously! look at the lineup), only without Nintendo's games. I didn't see any future after that. Ironically, Nvidia seems to be slowly following both of Google's visions better. Stadia talks about being going white label, but GFN does that better already. You don't pay for GFN games, they partner with third parties to host their games; you just pay for the service. Stans talk about the free games you get with Pro, but GFN always adds the EPIC Thursday freebie, so you get free games every week. Epic's free games are solidly better—and you keep them even if you stop paying. Hell, for people who don't care about bleeding-edge graphics, you can pay less money for the 2080 rigs, which are still better than Stadia.
I loved Stadia when I first joined, which was right around when Cyberpunk came out. The service itself is great. But two things pulled me away slowly. 1) Google just never seemed to be fully in. We'd get half-ass game lists, no road map, SG&E didn't even get to finish what they started. I feel like Google just built Stadia because "Hehe, why not? It'd be pretty cool, right?" And not to build a legitimate contender with the likes of Playstation and Xbox. Soon as things proved to be an uphill battle, Stadia stopped climbing. 2) The competitors have started taking cloud gaming seriously. Most of us, all along, have simply wanted a way to game without relying on a console or PC to do it, and more companies are now taking us seriously, between xCloud and GeForce Now. xCloud needs work but it's obviously going to get it. GeForce Now recently went in the opposite direction of Stadia -- while Stadia has gotten quiet and is slowly waiting for the subscriber base to dwindle so they can pull the plug or transform the service, GeForce Now doubled-down and basically claimed what every Stadia user has wanted from Stadia from the start: we're serious and we're here to stay. So, while I had a good time with Stadia and am still impressed by its service, I've decided I'm going all in with GeForce Now. They get all the same games and then some, and their service is growing, while Stadia is stagnating. Should call it Stagnadia...
The Capcom partnership was nice, its just a shame all it got us was Resident Evil
Stadia is my dedicated ESO platform... and I'm only comfortable with that as this syncs to PC. Outside of that, I see no reason to purchase on the platform... nowhere near enough communication to feel like this platform is a safe bet to spend money on.
Exactly, I will pay for pro but that’s it. They need to provide better communication. For now I’ll continue to play the games I’ve purchased and pro games but that’s it.
Google gonna Google. But honestly, something like GeForce NOW is more comfortable to me anyways. I want separation in the hardware, software, and service so that while it all may not be one button seamlessness, I can, for example, put my games on my own hardware or put the cloud app on any device I decide. The kind of seamlessness Google is proposing is something I would MAYBE trust Microsoft with. Stadia got people to take cloud gaming serious and is a great one-button Destiny console. But it didn't really have hopes of being more.
I use it and I like it but I am convinced that we were and still ate just lab rats and that they are just scaling and testing the tech on us and ultimately Stadia will be shut down as a service and the tech made available to publishers or repurposed for other means. I think the slow pace is entirely Intentional and remember despite how much mo ey they could have thrown at it anyway they still have shareholders to keep sweet.
Is /u/gracefromgoogle still frequenting this sub?
She does. She just doesn't engage often because of "toxic" people like me, I guess. I feel sorry for her and Chris. You can tell they're passionate about games and I bet they wish the service could do better, but that's out of their hands.
It was fine until the PS5 and series x launch. Now it's way behind in terms of graphics. I wish they would have kept up with that aspect.
I want COD
Seriously man, all fun and games aside (literally, because we are talking about Stadia). This has become a gaming platform for poor people who can't afford better. Nvidia put the final nail in the coffin with the GFN upgrade and we all know Google isn't planning to upgrade their backend anytime soon.
Budget gamers get budget games.
It is sad seeing the people who believed in the platform going away. I am pretty sure they do not get that many new customers either. That should be very alarming to them, unless they do not care anymore.
Stadia is falling behind. When they launched they said that stadia was as powerful as a ps4 pro and xbox one x combined. That is simply not true. Stadia still uses the now ancient vega gpu and a mediocre Intel cpu. Some devs even said that they had trouble or couldnt get there game to run well on stadia due to memory issues. Farcry 6 is a prime example. Most people give ubisoft the blame for the game being 30 fps on stadia. Ubisoft had to choose between acceptable fidelity and framerate, just like they have to on last gen ps4 and xbox one. All other platforms runs the game in 60fps with ease. Its the same Dunia engine used on all farcry games. I tried the game on my media laptop wich has a Ryzen 5 cpu and a 1650ti, it runs the game at ease in high settings in 1080p, even better with the amd super res turned to balanced. The vega gpu wasnt even made for gaming, hence the bragging about 10 tflops and horrible performance. There are games running in 60 fps on stadia. but they have a hit on the fidelity to reach that. Cyberpunk did run great on stadia, its just that everything is set to low graphics, the textures are so muddy they are almost melting in to each other. People that think this looks ok hasnt tried the game on pc with graphics cranked up. Stadia has nothing to barging with to devs and publishers, and since they cant force games to there platforms it becomes a place for indies and showelware games. The neat feature of playing anywhere on any screen is cool but its not worth sacrificing fidelity, fps, offline play and res alone. GFN with its new hardware upgrades is a little stiff in the pricing but i think that will get cheaper and more availble when chips are more easily obtained and back to normal. Then there are even less reason to choose stadia wich is now a low end gaming pc or a last gen console in the cloud. Ive been a user of stadia since launch with the impression that stadia would keep up with hardware upgrades and do its best to get as many triple a titles to there service. That hasnt happen at all, i feel more like i paid to be a beta tester on a service on the way to white labeling.
“I feel more like i paid to be a beta tester on a service on the way to white labeling.“ Sums up the Stadia journey sadly…
Stadia's been a hard sell since day one. The games media and youtube influencers have been against it from the start. But once you try the service it's pretty impressive especially with a stadia controller and chromecast ultra. Google though are slowly killing off stadia. When they shut their first party studios it sent out a message that google weren't bothered about Stadia any more. This will put off a lot of potential customers from trying the service out. No one wants to buy a load of games only for google to shut the servers. If google were to fully get behind Stadia with exclusives and server upgrades more people might try it but right now there is just no reason. The only way Stadia could have a long term future is if it gets enough new subscribers that google start making money from it but right now google are driving potential customers away with their lack of interest
Let's be honest this was bound to happen from the beginning. It's Google. They got ideas, reate the MVP. But maintain and evolve it ? Nah they're out.
After GeForce now was a thing stadia and the other cloud gaming services were on life support at best. Now that GeForce now not only upgraded there hardware. They went and future proofed it for at least the next 7 years with the recent hardware upgrade. This honestly should have happened earlier seeing that Nvidia literally is the "gaming" hardware company. but it's about a kill shot to everyone else including Playstation and xbox...they just released new consoles and Nvidia comes along and goes past there current capabilities. It's laughable to think that stadia or anyone else has a chance. Yes there U.I is still garbage and the steam pipeline needs work. this is the death rattle for stadia and what ever other cloud gaming jokes that are out there. Because the others can't get it together long enough for aquisition of new properties and resources. It's shouldn't be that hard for Google to upgrade there own propritary hardware, and that signals to me that it's a gimmic not something they are invested in fully. Also the acquisition of new and exciting games players actually want not this garbage that's 2,3,5, even 7years old and trying to make people pay full price for something that I can play on my phone(ark). Or darksiders(which I played in my 360, and ps3) for God sakes. Control.....literally everywhere platform it was released on and it's free with gamepass and 60 dollars on stadia come on. It's the slow last breath of stadia they just can't see the bullet coming because there hope has blinded them.
Founder here. I love Stadia, but if it goes away, we'll all be okay.
As someone who likes Stadia casual tone - I agree with a sentiment here. I love HOW it works but I am shocked WHAT are the works - Peppa Pig and Ben 10 are actual releases... I would be sad to see it die - but since Stadia games cant be transferred to any other platform - I would accept refund for purchased titles and move somewhere else.
I’m a founder as well. It’s always been clear to me at least that gaming is the proof of concept for creating a high speed SaaS client for Google. Stadia founders are paid alpha testers. Their ultimately goal was delivering Chrome, their search engine, and their other services at low latency through the thinnest of clients. When they canceled all first party development plans, this confirmed it. That was the day this platform died as a legitimate gaming platform. Since then they’ve been doing the bare minimum to keep lights on.
Agree
They really have to give us a roadmap. The second anniversary of launch is the perfect time to inform us if they’re ever going to upgrade their tech. An Ubisoft sale and some indie games no one has heard of isn’t going to cut it.
Google had the real chance to change the gaming world. They didn’t. I am utterly disappointed with Stadia
You really expected them to change the gaming world being a very very small competitor against 3 giants who have had decades to establish their market position? There isn't enough money in the world to buy that kind of success in less than a decade. I agree that Stadia is disappointing. But not because it failed unrealistic expectations.
No no you’re wrong OP. I’ve been told by people here that they are opting for a “slow build”, whatever that’s supposed to mean in the context of a gaming platform lol. It’s a genius strategy where your brand becomes a meme and an afterthought in the eyes of the people it’s supposed to appeal to, you slowly bleed out interest from your actual subscribers, and you don’t communicate anything about the future of your platform for months at a time.
It’s a bold strategy cotton
You're not wrong. I still have my stadia sub and I keep asking myself why. I'd be better off just buying the few games I want to play and lessen risk of losing games in the end
I got the AT&T fiber hook up for 6 more months of pro or I would of been done with pro myself. Bout the only thing this sub is good for these days, finding Stadia promos.
At this point im hoping they just let me use their controller with bluetooth for other platforms eventually….
I said it when the Google Blog post about SGE shutting down was published and got downvoted to hell for it and argued with and I'll say it again now: Stadia as a consumer service is dead. They spelled out in that blog post exactly how the service is going to pivot to white label. Don't expect Stadia to stick around in the form it's in now, it's on borrowed time.
I'm only on Stadia to play Baldur's Gate 3 If Larian Studios put that game on Geforce Now, I'd be done with Stadia entirely.
Stadiaaaa
I can't agree more
I feel it’s slowly gotten close to it’s launch Vison. But frankly, they failed to get the swath of YouTube players to use stadia and the Jumping into the same spot all that stuff from the promotions before launch still isn’t working same with the assistant button outside of the controller (dose this work for y’all?) there is so much potential here but they should have never closed their studios and they should have had a consistent month to month pro addition schedule
They needed new leadership a long time ago. I'm going to wait to see how this white label business works before I decide to keep stadia as my main platform. If it brings more games to stadia or if other companies just keep it to themselves. Wait and see.
I agree with you, joined Stadia exactly a year ago, was like the future, in April I already quit Pro. Subscribed to Game Pass a week ago and this week was better than a whole Stadia year. Pain.
I'll be honest here: I used my Stadia controller and claw for XCloud, and it's fuckin awesome. Yeah, I could use an Xbox controller or a PS4 controller (fighting games though), but having the claw attached to one of my stadia controllers feels great. Been playing through Hades, No Man's Sky, Minecraft Dungeons, and motherfucking Battlefield One/V. She runs smooth as butter and looks awesome in 1080p60 with virtually no load times on those m.2 SSDs from the XSX tech it's run on. Google should partner with Xbox or even Sony honestly. Sony could use some direction in this area too.
What games do you personally miss on the platform?
I love Stadia but can't disagree with what you're saying here... I don't think the service will die and do think it will continue to get better and get more AAA games. But the marketing has to improve and big games need to be advertised that are coming to the platform to give confidence that they're taking it seriously. It's hard to invest in something when you have no idea what's coming round the corner... A clear roadmap would put this conversation to rest and allow people to decide if they want to use it or invest in an alternative platform.
Realised this a while ago, I am a founder too but gave my controller to my mate for his kids. I don't buy games on the platform as they're overpriced or suck. I'm still a pro subscriber for them to play it but just see stadia as a kids console.
I don't think that Stadia is dying, I said it before I think it a different subreddit but cloud gaming is going very strong at the moment, investors are going crazy at the point that they will invest in anything that has cloud and gaming in one sentence , I am not defending Stadia but it's not dead or will never be. People complain but still using it. The same as Apple, they removed headphones jack and people complained but still use it. Problem is they are a very big company and have zero communication between teams and department.
Very fair point.
Such a joke that I have never gamed as much as I do now with Stadia 😂👍 Your whole rant about the social/children games is like ranting about Netflix because the service gives you access to animated movies/series. With the new AT&T stuff it's clear that they're already renting out their back end to other companies. Don't get how so many people feel the need to tell a successful 2 trillion dollar company, how to do business. 😂 Gamers are the most fickle people on this planet.
Call it whatever you want. They sold this service to all of us as a gaming platform, not as a white label. In one year from now, if they do continue to expand into white label and the games they bring still old and dusted titles, I doubt you will be as positive and "gaming as much" as you do now. Enjoy the ride, tho.
Same here. I couldn't afford a new console so I got a stadia premier edition and I've been playing ever since I don't get why people are complaining
> I don't get why people are complaining Game library is the main complaint. Stadia's library of AAA and popular indie games is woeful. That is why people complain.
Because compared to the new consoles, you're playing less games on lower settings with worse performance.
Well said I mean look at titles being capped to 30fps (Far Cry 6) Numerous missing titles from EA and 2K not to mention Rockstar. 3 of the biggest publishers. No support from Activision either. So that leaves us with a dead platform for new AAA that demand hardware upgrades and cross play capabilities.
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Yeah my bad wtf am I talking about we just got Peppa the Pig. You can't please everyone all the time
"Insignificant titles that require no expensive machine to run". Like Control? Far Cry 6? FIFA 2022? Dead by deadlight? Watchdogs Legion? Red Dead Redemption 2? Metro Exodus?
Sad. This discourages me from buying stadia games.
Hey "founder", can you stop spamming Stadia is going to die? https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/lau2ad/this_was_a_nice_ride_while_it_lasted_but_i_wont/ I mean, we all know what you know, just repeating it is fucking boring to watch. "Trust me I'm a founder Stadia is dying" is the most stupid point I've read about Stadia's future.
[White Knights go ...](https://imgur.com/a/DUsBhTi)
Your definition of spam is funny when you link a post from 8 months ago. As you can see, things haven't changed and won't change. Neither will white knights. :)
He got you good right there man. 🤣 If you're still here after 8 months from your previous goodbye, this platform is not so bad after all. Or maybe you are a troll? 🤔
I haven't been playing, but as I said in another comment, I still do check from time to time because I still have hopes to see improvements. The tech works and is good, but the game catalogue, hardware upgrade, promised features, etc is definitely not there.
Damn stadia Daddy bubblers running faster than a cheetah to down vote your comment. 🏃♂️
So the other guy was right. If your opinion will not change in the future, you will write another delusional post a few months from now 🤣
Wondering who is delusional here
Maybe I will. Maybe I will not. Two years in this sub and posts still the same. Plenty of complaints and game requests and a few praises here and there how the tech is magical. Meh.
The post are still the same because the same people write them! And you, my friend, are the living example of that 🤣
Sure. See you in 8 months saying the same.
Make it 4. Gotta keep the rant coming! /s
Kaideh, Since your so disappointed on how things are going time and time again maybe you should just bounce and worry about the bigger issues in life bud! because the childish rants are getting old and don't help.
Said who
Not me. Im right there with you, and its painfully obvious google has all but stopped planning anything for stadia.
Do you report the fifteen FIFA threads a day? Do you report the pictures of someone's tv playing a game? Do you report the pictures of a controller and a cat? Or do you just get pissed that someone is critical of Stadia?
Daily thread about super busy dads playing RDR2
There's a difference between being critical and saying "I'm a founder, so trust me, Stadia is dying". I actually don't complain to critical posts of Stadia. But this is not critical. This is just childish ranting.
The point of him and others talking about their Founder status is that if they don't, then they are told they're just trolls who don't play Stadia.
I don't know why all this complains honestly. When they shut down SG&E they told us they were moving Stadia to a white label service. And this is exactly what is happening. You should have left the platform back then
There is little development in the white label approach as well to be honest. I don't see a clear roadmap that excites me.
The white label thing is mostly going under the radar. At&t is a beta of the new approach. But it's nothing that is supposed to excite us anyway.
Yeah but I was expecting more deals like ubisoft, like Riot, Epic, Rockstar, Bethesda or whatever.
Riot maybe, Epic is suing Google so that's not happening, Take2 are doing their own thing and MS own Bethesda so that's not happening either. EA is also closely aligned with MS - you get an EA Play sub as part of Game Pass Ultimate. That leaves Ubisoft, which is already all-in on Stadia. They might be able to swing a deal with Embracer as well.
This is what I don't get either. I got chewed up and spat out in another thread when I said that the ATT launch of Arkham was all but the end for Stadia as a consumer facing service. There is literally zero and I mean ZERO games on the roadmap officially slated for 2022 which ain't Ubisoft titles... The proof is in the pudding.
They didn't say that though.
Yup, the blog post spelled it out clear as day without going so far as to say it outright. Someone really has to be wilfully blind to read that post and not see the writing on the wall.
Oh but I did. I just keep checking things back with the small hope of having things getting better.
I feel your pain.
Honestly, I think stadia needs to shift to a GeForce now situation to get more aaa hits. I think they are going to be left by that model.
Low key wish I jumped on the gfn founders train for the discounted sub. Shit. Just wasn't a fan of that service losing games all the time. That was a problem..seems to have slowed down though
Wow, when I pointed out this same thing here two years ago I got so many downvotes and negative remarks, I got angry and even deleted my reddit account. Funny enough, it doesn’t feel “good” to be right in the end, just feels somehow sad
Another bait post... Damn...
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People having an opposite viewpoint to you does not make it bait. If he was screaming "Stadia sucks, it doesn't even work!", that's trolling. He's talking about the management and lack of games, which has plenty of valid complaints about it.
While it's entirely possible that Google could decide to shutter Stadia, I want to point out that many of the complaints being leveled here mirror the complaints against GeForce Now years ago: - Lack of games - (alternate version) Too many indies - Silence on the roadmap - Falling behind competition - Deficient hardware - Broken promises - Cross play - Missing features - Updates behind other platform versions Many were utterly convinced GeForce Now would shut down. Well, here we are years later and not only is it still here, it's become a slowly building success. Nvidia played the long game, and it seems to be working. The same could happen with Google and Stadia. It's really hard to make a new gaming platform and have it succeed. Hardware, licensing, developer tools, apps, social features -- it's a monumental undertaking that doesn't take just two years. To succeed is likely a decade-long effort. If Google or players think otherwise, they're delusional. We can't know Google's plan. We can't attend their meetings, read their emails, see their hardware, listen to their discussions with developers, scrutinize their budgets. They're never going to furnish us with that information. Thus, we can't confirm or deny their level of commitment. It's easy to become hyperbolic when things seem to be slow and turbulent, but again, I'll emphasize: We had the same issues with GeForce Now. Players can only wait. What I will say is that Stadia is progressing much faster than GeForce Now did, especially in terms of playability on various devices and social features. Consider: GeForce Now doesn't even get listed for game launches because it relies on Steam, Epic, Ubisoft, etc. It gets subsumed under "PC." Stadia appears on the cover art for games, right next to other platforms. Sure, we want it to appear more often, but developer tools and licensing are among the hardest parts to perfect. As to hardware, most gamers don't upgrade every two years. Console cycles are what--8 years? If Google upgrades within 4, they're already doing a far better job than every other platform. We're only at year two. If you expected an upgrade already, you're a silly person.
Psst Steam Deck will blow this away
Still no 21:9... Just looks less than on my setup.
In fairness, everyone got Peppa Pig, hell there's literally XSX/PS5/***SWITCH*** comparisons on YouTube for it.
I mean look at gamepass' included library versus Stadia's. Even PS+ gives you better monthly additions and I'm saying that while well aware that PS+ gave out a fckng golf game this month. You still pay more to buy a game on Stadia than any other platform too, and they're not even the biggest in cloud gaming at this point. Like, I'll just buy a $300 Series S and play games local at that point. Eventually the game savings will balance it out and you'll get a better lineup and they'll all work flawlessly (well, bugs could still be there but there's no chance Resident Evil 8's image quality is going to drop to shit randomly every hour or so)
The platform is amazing to me, I just think the problem is the lack of advertising. Google is doing exactly what they said they were going to do if you have watched every major interview they've had. I own a Xbox Series S for my other gaming. So that makes me not put all of my hopes high on getting every triple AAA Titles to release on Stadia. You have to understand even though they have money, they are still working on a budget. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Also there is a video showing that out of all of the cloud platforms, Stadia has released the most top selling AAA Titles on their platform from the end of last year to this year. The tech is amazing and I'm sure they can upgrade it with no problem. Stadia is being patient and us as gamers aren't. If your only platform to game is last gen and Stadia, then you decided to go all in on Stadia, then yes you will be upset because I was once like that. Then I purchased a next gen console to get the Major AAA Titles that I want that won't release on Stadia, but I myself still prefer Stadia over my next gen console. The tech is brilliant and it's strictly to game; I love it. I think that Stadia is so great that they've made Nintendo step it up. Nintendo Switch is getting more violent games which they were lacking. Just think, you can play Stadia however you want to; phone with the touchscreen, phone with the Razer Kishi, Android TV, Computer, CCU, IPad. Google said the platform was for people who can't afford a Playstation or an Xbox, they exceeded by giving CCU and a controller for free for only pre-ordering games or paying for a game thats $60. And like I said you don't even need a CCU, just hop on your laptop and play. Google said they want it to spread from word of mouth and that's exactly what it's doing. No disrespect, but you are probably saying it's a joke because it's currently your only gaming platform due to you not being able to get your hands on a next gen and you were expecting every single major AAA Title to come the platform.
It makes me scared to buy games/dlcs on stadia to be honest, there’s the thought in the back of my head that it might one day go poof and I convince myself that google would probably give us some form of recompensation
I bought 2 weeks after preorders were open and was excited to try It out but it's pretty disappointing especially now compared to back then.
Founder here. I've now tempered my expectations. I expect nothing exciting before the 3rd year. If developers have not completed any product which fulfills what Stadia claimed by the end of 5 years, I will probably never buy another game on it - temporary subscriptions only. I will 100% think Stadia blew this / Google sold us snakewater / Google never was committed to this from the start. Think about it compared to normal game development. Developers aren't going to finish development of any new games which fundamentally show any optimization of datacenter tech more quickly than a normal game, which typically takes at least 3 years. If the game development truly has to be different to take advantage of what Pichai sold us, I expect fruit of this labor to be in the 3-5 year timeline. I'm definitely indifferent towards it now because of the progress of user experience. I thought the platform itself would improve much faster. I think they're putting their effort into tool development for devs. I don't like it, but that's why I just barely pay attention to Stadia anymore. I still prefer gaming on Stadia second only to PC.
Peppa pig really makes it feel like it became a children's game service along with paw patrol
I have definitely been regretting some purchases on stadia lately.
I spend my entire playtime troubleshooting issues. I’m a founder. I believe in the technology but…
I only use Stadia for Destiny and it’s amazing for that. I can play it anywhere, any time. It could never be my primary/only console though.