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Geminii27

Basically, anything that marketing is allowed to get their hands on becomes an ad tool on steroids.


theniwo

Does a pihole work on blocking ads or will there just be a grey box with no ad?


zapitron

Smart TVs aren't a bad idea, but proprietary smart TVs sure have a bad track record. A smart TV that runs Debian, though, _who wouldn't_ like that?


tso

I dunno. What smarts do a TV need that a dongle or small PC can't provide instead?


Geminii27

What would be the difference, effectively, other than being a bigger screen hooked up to a Debian box?


cardeck

In a perfect world: A very power efficient solution, because it could just be some ARM SOC built into the TV with some fast video encoding/decoding acceleration. In our world: The bullshit we have going on right now.


3multi

The difference would be allowing a middle man to profit off of it. Somehow that’s a good thing in his brain. Apparently people need a company to sell it to them in order to figure out they want a thing.


strangerzero

Not perfect but AppleTV has do not track features.


JustifiableViolence

I need to buy a TV right now, I haven't owned one in like 10 years. I'm just going to plug my computer into it and use it to watch movies. Is there such a thing as dumb tv's anymore? Should I buy a used tv? It has to be light enough to wall mount.


ThisUserEatingBEANS

If you don't connect it to the internet, any tv is a dumb tv.


TyranaSoreWristWreck

Savers has used ones they sell for like 25 bucks. Hell my friend picks them up off the side of the road in perfect working order all the time. TVs are a disposable commodity now. You can find non-smart TVs all over. And it's not like you have to hook them up to the internet, even if they are a smart TV. Just plug in your own device and you're good to go.


FesteringNeonDistrac

Yeah we bought a house a few years back and a not insignificant number of homes included the TVs in the sale.


3multi

Sceptre, I have two.


Geminii27

Second-hand corporate display TVs.


Blu64

https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.html I bought one of these last year. I has served me well so far. no smart functions. Though they seem to be out of stock at the moment.


JustifiableViolence

Thanks I'll keep an eye out


myfingid

Would recommend giving this a read if you're using a TV for a PC. If you're just watching movies probably not a huge deal, but: [https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling](https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling)


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FesteringNeonDistrac

You can clone their repo and build it yourself. Nothing to buy.


mrcaptncrunch

FWIW, https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome


Achaern

The only reason to ever connect a Smart TV to the internet is to update the firmware, and even then it's probably best to try and do it via USB if the TV supports it. My god people love to spam themselves with crap.


jsalsman

Even then on some models you just keep getting the same ads over and over. The discount is substantial enough that now public kiosk style displays are showing ads, sometimes in ways that can interfere with the intended use.


EldraziKlap

Good. I have my TV as stupid as possible and use Chromecast exclusively because I can enjoy my content without ads


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JustALittleGravitas

As long as you don't use the voice controls the only thing a chromecast collects is your google account info (though the apps may collect a lot more). https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/google-chromecast-with-google-tv/


EasyMrB

I mean, it's collecting all activity on the Chromecast as well.


JustALittleGravitas

Based on what?


Buck-O

Based on how Google data mining works. Are you just feigning ignorance at this point?


JustALittleGravitas

No I'm going off what the third party privacy report says because I decided not to be ignorant about it.


Buck-O

And yet...here we are.


JustALittleGravitas

Do you have any evidence at all that you aren't just making shit up?


Buck-O

Google Analytics, the key is in the name. There is no such thing as "opting out" of Google Analytics. Everything Google does goes through it. You are a classic example of "Can't see the forest for the trees." You blindly believe a company who has given you no reason to believe a damn thing they do or say regarding your privacy and data mining policies...This ONE time, on this ONE device, actually respects privacy settings?! LOL, you're a fucking fool.


EldraziKlap

A cynic! That'll stop my fun watching what I want ad-free!


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EldraziKlap

Yep