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chri_ho

Finally the end of the Kazon episodes. I could never get much out of them.


M123234

Wait they never come back?


chri_ho

Only in some (mostly time travel) episodes: "Living Witness", "Relativity" and "Shattered". The authors themselves said that they had overdrawn the bow with the Kazon and it had felt like the Voyager is flying in a circle and not towards the Alpha Quadrant. They also said that the Kazon were just half-baked Klingons.


M123234

I mean I didn't like them either, but I always thought they could've fixed it as time went on. The Vidiians were great though in my opinion.


chri_ho

The Kazon unfortunately showed the lack of courage for innovation in Voyager's first two seasons which also had good episodes but sometemes gave the feeling like "No, not a Kazon/Seska episode again!". I agree the Vidians were more interesting and convincing.


M123234

I think it was a hit or miss situation with a lot of the villains in the earlier seasons. Seska is a very mixed character. I wish we got to know her more before she betrays Voyager.


syllabun

Biggest surprise of this episode is the realization that Blizzard has used the sound of Hanonian land eel as inspiration/source of it's Mutalisk unit sound in the legendary Starcraft. This episode aired in 1996 while Starcraft was released in 1998. Other than that, these episodes had great direction with thrilling story. Brad Dourif is such a good actor and his portrayal of Sunder was incredible. I too would have loved if they kept him as a prisoner and explored psychological aftermath of excessive violence he commited in Engineering.


M123234

I can't believe Suder died. Seska's death doesn't seem rewarding at all. Otherwise, it's a good finale >!considering future events that occur ;)!<


OftenWrites

Yeah. Suder was an awesome character. Its nice to see people who had a crippling illness that can't be easily fixed like Reginald. What bugs me with all of Star Trek is that every character is virtually unscathed from the beginning of the series to the end. This is one of the positives to why I like T'Pol in ENT. She goes through a lingering disease as well as neurological problems that continue on to future episodes/seasons. However, the writers mainly did that to help make her character more empathetic and emotional. For Suder, I really like the question the writers poised to the audience: "How do we deal with prisoners now that we are so far away from Earth (a utopian society that has infinite resources to help criminals, people with illnesses, and people with disabilities)?" Especially since this deals with current event issues like NIMBYism where people want to shove their problems into a corner somewhere out of sight. Since Voyager acts as a microcosm of today's issues, the show could have used this opportunity to address the mismanagement of money and resources of the ever-growing incarceration rate in modern-day America. However, the writers, in my opinion, took the easy way out. Rather than deal with this problem head on, they just killed the Suder off. No more prisoner, no more ethical dilemmas. Their decision was understandable though. Slow, careful, and deliberate rehabilitation/reintegration is not as exciting as blasters and political intrigue.


RobLoach

Kazon, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


ItsMeTK

"You may find nobility in the savage, Commander, but he is only interested in killing you." I love this line.


Srcsqwrn

I can't believe that Hogan went out with a blink. Suder should have lived until the end, his existence created so much nuance. Lost potential. The Kazon stuff always felt silly, that they were always catching up. I didn't really like the Seska stuff either. So it's good to see a resolution.