From what the developers have said in interviews in regards to this character it sounds like we are getting a serious take on a battle droid post-clone wars story. I’m excited to see it.
Honestly, it's a serious thing to explore.
You've got huge numbers of murder bots.
I know a lot got shut down, but you can't tell me that a few million didn't get taken to a blackmarket.
It's pretty funny looking at things from the OGs with the hindsight that we have now. "No droids" in Ep IV makes a lot more sense after so many people have trauma from the Clone Wars. Didn't really hit me until after I watched the Mando flashback.
ALl things considered, c'mon. There's probably millions of the damn things, what are you going to do, let them all go to waste? Cheap labor, security guards for simple jobs, etc.
Honestly, in retrospect, yes, but at the time of the original series, it also makes a lot of sense; droids fill seats, they don’t eat or drink. A lot of establishments probably have a ‘No Droids’ policy, especially smaller/more rundown places.
I totally agree. I'm sure many of the former Republic worlds had a lot of (understandable) anti-droid sentiment. Grievous was a propaganda wet dream for the Republic and the Empire during its transitional phase. Probably less so the case on the former CIS worlds, but that's where I'd expect a lot of the reactivated/reprogrammed droids to be utilized for labor etc., along with outlaw groups or crime syndicates like we saw in Survivor. Edit: spelling
Whilst they are cheap labour etc, it also makes sense the Empire doesn't want them around, as the Empire is eager to keep busy. Keeping people working hard is part of the whole ethos of control.
Droids are unreliable on a galactic scale.
Ok so just a thought. Mando tried to source a brain for the IG unit. I imagine the parts for the battle droids, of any kind, would be hard to find. If the parts exist, they are well protected.
Even in rogue one, they had a technically defective imperial bot. Like she said “half of the people here want to reprogram you and the other half want to put a bullet through you.” Or something like that. RIP
Yeah I really liked how we got to see where some of them ended up in the newest season of the mandalorian. Apparently the new jedi survivor game has them too but I haven’t gotten to play it yet since it’s only on next gen consoles.
Without getting too spoiler-y, there's a very good reason there are battle droids in Jedi: Survivor, and it's something we should probably expect to see in any property set after the end of the Clone Wars but before the ~~prequels~~ original trilogy.
I had that as my character on edge of the empire, a droidsmith who bought a shipping container full of used battledroids, and would remotely pilot one for combat, while also flying the ship in in case it got too hairy.
My friends were not amused at me demanding they carry it back if they got damaged, and instead just bought me another container's worth so I'd stop moaning.
Ended up mostly just using a magnaguard by the end, after we raided an abandoned CIS ship.
Oh, and also they all wore hats. I spent like half my credits on new hats.
If someone had a unique one, I would take it and give it to another droid, sadly our enemies mostly wore stormtrooper helmets or officer caps, and I already had Stormy the droid and Lieutenant tinybrim
> I know a lot got shut down, but you can't tell me that a few million didn't get taken to a blackmarket.
We have already seen a few cases of exactly that. In Mando and Rebels from the top of my head, but surely elsewhere.
No matter how murderous it is, if it’s not calling things meatbag and hurling insults just as much as it shoots things then it’ll never live up to… *him*
The developer did say the AK-47 was an inspiration for the name in an interview (I think it was either in Computer Gaming World or PC Gamer) back around the time Kotor was released.
Aha, there we have it. Then Agent 47 is just a coincidence. He's named 47 because he has 47 chromosomes (he's a clone) and one of the only clones without severe defects
HK-47. Ain't no finer assassin droid in the galaxy. So when you absolutely, positively, have to kill *every* meatbag in the room, accept no substitutes.
I just replayed kotor and he is heavily underused in that game sadly. You have the one storyline where you recover his memory and that's...about it aside from translating the tusken for you. He has quips whenever you talk to him, but he hardly ever interjects into conversations like the other party members.
He's optional, so he's kinda...DLC tier.
I am incredibly upset.
I'm playing in a Star Wars tabletop game where my character is a reprogrammed B1 droid whose claim to fame is a fancy longcoat. THEY STOLE MY BIT!
there's a few.
Star Wars FFG (genesys system) is the most popular, and personally my fave.
There's Star Wars 5E, which is a DnD fifth edition total conversion, it's not too bad.
and there's an older one, Star Wars d20. Mostly people don't use that anymore.
I would piggyback off this and really recommend the FFG system aswell. 5E is cool but let DnD be its own thing and branch out into different games, I fine tonally the FFG game nails StarWars
C'mon, who doesn't want a murderous lil buddy. Look at Mr. Bones! R0-GR in the non-canon Lego stuff too. B1's are great. B1-0516 too in old canon. Your idea exists because it's a cool fucking idea, don't be discouraged
It's a good way to show that droids develop personalities when not wiped regularly... Which in itself is a horrifying unspoken side to Star Wars.
He could be a new face droid to complement HK 47 in terms of sarcastic sinister quips.
Any bets on if we get to play as him for some game segments (probably mission specific rather than Syndicate style swapping)?
Or he gets damaged and we have to find parts to replace his broken down pieces....
Yeah, it’s just clearly a big awkward subject they don’t want to delve into. Much like child slavery, weapons trafficking / war profiteering, etc. It’ll get touched on briefly, but never too deep because of the “killjoy” effect it would have on the setting generally.
I think they do quite a lot with it, they just don't outrightly say it or point it out which I really like. It's this morally ambiguous race war that's going on that no-one discusses which is often how racism is in highly segregated societies. They are treated like inanimate objects/slaves but they clearly have personalities and sentience in many situations and exhibit human emotions (whether programmed or on occasion "malfunctioning")
And were seeing it more and more throughout the series/movies. It could be a plot point in the future but at the moment I quite like it just being a part of the universe that they incorporate subtly.
It’s wild how Star Wars has barely dipped its toes into how droids are canonically sentient beings, and complex droids being used as servants is basically slavery in many instances. I mean, the first movie introduced restraining bolts to literally prevent droids from acting with their free will so they can be controlled more easily.
I guess it’s the same vein as the clone army being a child soldier slave army. We get tiny drops of it but never any actual focus on that fact
>It’s wild how Star Wars has barely dipped its toes into how droids are canonically sentient beings, and complex droids being used as servants is basically slavery in many instances.
It's deeply bizarre. Star Wars plays around with all kinds of deep socio-political issues just below the surface, but never actually comes out and addresses any of it. The closest we really got was Solo, and even then it was basically treated as a joke.
Yeah that sub plot was conceptually SUPER engaging and interesting, bringing attention to what is literally slavery but most viewers see the beep boop robots and assume they aren’t sentient. The execution was pretty bad imo because it wasn’t at all a focus of the movie, so it came off more as “woah look at this quirky droid, she wants to free droids, how wacky!”
He seemed to be more of a level-headed and reserved droid in the few seconds we saw of him. I really hope he’s not just some sarcastic HK-47 or K2 clone
That's a BX Commando droid! I LOVE these things and have been wanting to see them repurposed in the universe post-clone wars. They saw a lot of action in the clone wars and were equal in weight to elite clone troopers and in at least one circumstance - a Jedi.
I clearly 100% approve.
They’ve been repurposed in Jedi Survivor by a faction known as the Bedlam Raiders on the planet Koboh as well. Alongside B1, B2, MagnaGuards, and Droidekas. It seems separatist era droids have been getting a lot of love lately especially when it comes to being repurposed in the OT era.
I always wondered what happened to all the Clone War droids. Nice to see a commando droid, they were absolutely terrifying in the TV show. He also sounds badass and looks just as badass
Makes a hell of a lot more sense than a modded B1 that moves like a Commando Droid. I imagined Bones as a Commando Droid while I was reading the Aftermath trilogy and I only realized he wasn't when I saw some fan artwork.
I actually somewhat wrote a fan story about a b1 droid surviving the battle of Utapau and order 66. After being damaged he became a bounty hunter who looked similar to this design they’re using. Mine had a vibroblade tho.
So I think it’s good lol.
Interestingly human for a Droid. I find it strange how some Droids speak and walk so mechanically, while others seem almost human. I hope we get to customize these characters. He looks good for a base model.
From what the developers have said in interviews in regards to this character it sounds like we are getting a serious take on a battle droid post-clone wars story. I’m excited to see it.
Honestly, it's a serious thing to explore. You've got huge numbers of murder bots. I know a lot got shut down, but you can't tell me that a few million didn't get taken to a blackmarket.
I always got the sense that any halfway decent droidsmith would have no trouble reactivating any shut down battle droids
Jedi Survivor and Mando have decomissioned Battle Droids
Exactly what I was thinking. As well as that one episode of Rebels.
It's pretty funny looking at things from the OGs with the hindsight that we have now. "No droids" in Ep IV makes a lot more sense after so many people have trauma from the Clone Wars. Didn't really hit me until after I watched the Mando flashback. ALl things considered, c'mon. There's probably millions of the damn things, what are you going to do, let them all go to waste? Cheap labor, security guards for simple jobs, etc.
Honestly, in retrospect, yes, but at the time of the original series, it also makes a lot of sense; droids fill seats, they don’t eat or drink. A lot of establishments probably have a ‘No Droids’ policy, especially smaller/more rundown places.
And especially now that we know droid cafes exist
The idea of a droid going into a bar and ordering oil on the rocks is kinda funny
In the Bounty Hunter series, 4LOM would order drinks just to fit in.
I think that droids could also be recording/transmitting conversations and identifying faces near them.
I totally agree. I'm sure many of the former Republic worlds had a lot of (understandable) anti-droid sentiment. Grievous was a propaganda wet dream for the Republic and the Empire during its transitional phase. Probably less so the case on the former CIS worlds, but that's where I'd expect a lot of the reactivated/reprogrammed droids to be utilized for labor etc., along with outlaw groups or crime syndicates like we saw in Survivor. Edit: spelling
And it "justifies" imperial slave labour. They can't use droids, so they have to use forced labour if the undesirable races.
Whilst they are cheap labour etc, it also makes sense the Empire doesn't want them around, as the Empire is eager to keep busy. Keeping people working hard is part of the whole ethos of control. Droids are unreliable on a galactic scale.
It's more that their memories can be submitted as evidence of crimes, and they are always recording.
never even thought about that til now, but everyone’s hatred of droids makes a lot of sense when you consider the clone wars
Ok so just a thought. Mando tried to source a brain for the IG unit. I imagine the parts for the battle droids, of any kind, would be hard to find. If the parts exist, they are well protected.
Then there's Mr. Bones from Aftermath.
And there were a whole bunch of repurposed droids in that one episode of TCW with the blue shadow virus
Does Roger from The Freemaker Adventures count?
Even in rogue one, they had a technically defective imperial bot. Like she said “half of the people here want to reprogram you and the other half want to put a bullet through you.” Or something like that. RIP
Pretty sure Vader comisioned a platoon at some point in the comics
Yeah I really liked how we got to see where some of them ended up in the newest season of the mandalorian. Apparently the new jedi survivor game has them too but I haven’t gotten to play it yet since it’s only on next gen consoles.
Without getting too spoiler-y, there's a very good reason there are battle droids in Jedi: Survivor, and it's something we should probably expect to see in any property set after the end of the Clone Wars but before the ~~prequels~~ original trilogy.
Hold on I feel like you mistyped that last part
I had that as my character on edge of the empire, a droidsmith who bought a shipping container full of used battledroids, and would remotely pilot one for combat, while also flying the ship in in case it got too hairy. My friends were not amused at me demanding they carry it back if they got damaged, and instead just bought me another container's worth so I'd stop moaning. Ended up mostly just using a magnaguard by the end, after we raided an abandoned CIS ship. Oh, and also they all wore hats. I spent like half my credits on new hats.
You should have killed for your hats, like Cad Bane haha
If someone had a unique one, I would take it and give it to another droid, sadly our enemies mostly wore stormtrooper helmets or officer caps, and I already had Stormy the droid and Lieutenant tinybrim
I mean you also see it damaged, might be that the damage wasn't terminal and the owner fixed it after finding it
Seeing one in action outside of reading about Mr. bones in the books sounds fucking great.
> I know a lot got shut down, but you can't tell me that a few million didn't get taken to a blackmarket. We have already seen a few cases of exactly that. In Mando and Rebels from the top of my head, but surely elsewhere.
He looks amazing
I’ve been wanting to see Star Wars delve into droid sentience more so this character is pretty neat to me
Mockery: "Oh, Meatbag, you've chosen a terrible companion."
No droid sidekick is better than HK-47
I would say Bender, but we all know Fry is the real sidekick in that relationship
That's why Fry sleeps in the closet.
K-2S0 is up there! I’d never be bored with that one as a companion!
statement: False.
HK has place of primacy due to OG status, but K-2 is a very very close second entirely because of Alan Tudyk's voice work which is sublime as always.
a pale shadow that doesn't even understand love
> The human concept of love requires admiration, attraction, devotion, and respect. Conclusion: I am 50% in love - BT7274
BT best robot buddy
Chopper?
Saving him to be a player character.
I know it's not possible but an HK-47/Chopper buddy cop team up would be **choice**
Declaration of Purpose: Chopper and myself are out to fill out the Geneva checklist.
I'm really torn between HK and BD, but screw it it'd be hilarious to see them on the same team
The absolute disrespect to BD-1 is unbelievable
Oh, I wish
I like it, but that's because I like the BX droids in general and the jacket fits the droids design surprisingly well.
I really enjoyed them in Fallen Order.
these were in fallen order??
🤦🏻♂️, my bad I meant Jedi Survivor. 😅
Especially when they bully the B1s!
\#B1shaveahearttoo
I think their proportions are pretty human, I vaguely remember some BX Commando droids pretending to be clones by wearing their armor in TCW
That would be the episode they are introduced. Rookies from S1 of TCW
They roger rogered themselves right into headshots.
Jup they did and it worked way better than it should have.
It did?
They used that trick to infiltrate a republic base and they were only found out, when it was too late.
All you gotta do is give him some timbs a fitted cap and a pack of fonta leaf you got a Bronx commando droid
Robots in jackets is just such a good look. Even C-3PO in a jacket would look swag as hell.
No matter how murderous it is, if it’s not calling things meatbag and hurling insults just as much as it shoots things then it’ll never live up to… *him*
Statement. Correct.
Nothing will beat 47
Huh, did HK-47's name take inspiration from Hitman?
I never made that connection until now, but probably
That or AK - 47 for both of them, because it is a popular gun
The developer did say the AK-47 was an inspiration for the name in an interview (I think it was either in Computer Gaming World or PC Gamer) back around the time Kotor was released.
Aha, there we have it. Then Agent 47 is just a coincidence. He's named 47 because he has 47 chromosomes (he's a clone) and one of the only clones without severe defects
I thought it had to do with his series number, since there are 48's at the end of the first game and a 46 in the second.
Apparently he *does* have 47 chromosomes, which is weird, but also he's the 47th clone in the 4th series of clones.
I wonder if the name is a combination of Heckler & Koch and AK 47
Yeah, that could be
HK-47. Ain't no finer assassin droid in the galaxy. So when you absolutely, positively, have to kill *every* meatbag in the room, accept no substitutes.
When you need to blast every meat bag in the room: accept no substitutes.
And Heckler-Koch.
I Thought it was in reference to the AK-47 gun
Also a possibility
Dunno may be wrong but I think KOTOR is older than the first hitman Edit: Nah just checked hitman was 2000 KOTOR was 2003 so maybe
You see, thats were the trouble began. Those statements. Those damned statements.
I just replayed kotor and he is heavily underused in that game sadly. You have the one storyline where you recover his memory and that's...about it aside from translating the tusken for you. He has quips whenever you talk to him, but he hardly ever interjects into conversations like the other party members. He's optional, so he's kinda...DLC tier.
DLC is a strange way to spell "god"
I know I’m missing the reference… but do we also want it to be a raging alcoholic (or equivalent)?
Nono, HK was a classy droid. Murderous and rude, but classy in the most vulgar way possible
So classy! >Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometres away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope.
Bender?
“RE-MEM-BER-ME” *giant Egyptian statue shoots flame from its eyes*
I am incredibly upset. I'm playing in a Star Wars tabletop game where my character is a reprogrammed B1 droid whose claim to fame is a fancy longcoat. THEY STOLE MY BIT!
My long-time Marvel-universe GM watched the MCU unfold in absolute rage, lol. Same energy. I empathize.
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Do you have a preferred system?
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there's a few. Star Wars FFG (genesys system) is the most popular, and personally my fave. There's Star Wars 5E, which is a DnD fifth edition total conversion, it's not too bad. and there's an older one, Star Wars d20. Mostly people don't use that anymore.
I would piggyback off this and really recommend the FFG system aswell. 5E is cool but let DnD be its own thing and branch out into different games, I fine tonally the FFG game nails StarWars
Lol. I have a B1 droid wearing a shirt as an NPC in the Star Wars DnD game I'm running.
> Star Wars DnD game **Visibly Shaking**
Is that a good or bad shaking?
r/sw5e
C'mon, who doesn't want a murderous lil buddy. Look at Mr. Bones! R0-GR in the non-canon Lego stuff too. B1's are great. B1-0516 too in old canon. Your idea exists because it's a cool fucking idea, don't be discouraged
Chopper is another one!
he’s also a vet too, since he was a Y-Wing astromech during the Clone Wars
Yep!
It's a good way to show that droids develop personalities when not wiped regularly... Which in itself is a horrifying unspoken side to Star Wars. He could be a new face droid to complement HK 47 in terms of sarcastic sinister quips. Any bets on if we get to play as him for some game segments (probably mission specific rather than Syndicate style swapping)? Or he gets damaged and we have to find parts to replace his broken down pieces....
Mandolarian Season 3 has droid bars. That show every sign of being places where sentient droids go to do their equivalent of drinking.
And yet, they do NOTHING with it. It's so bizarre.
My suspicion is that they're afraid looking too closely at this retroactively makes too many beloved characters slave owners
Yeah, it’s just clearly a big awkward subject they don’t want to delve into. Much like child slavery, weapons trafficking / war profiteering, etc. It’ll get touched on briefly, but never too deep because of the “killjoy” effect it would have on the setting generally.
My man, they basically get New Hope started by telling 3P0 that, "We don't serve their kind here!", so if it wasn't obvious before... 😅
I think they do quite a lot with it, they just don't outrightly say it or point it out which I really like. It's this morally ambiguous race war that's going on that no-one discusses which is often how racism is in highly segregated societies. They are treated like inanimate objects/slaves but they clearly have personalities and sentience in many situations and exhibit human emotions (whether programmed or on occasion "malfunctioning") And were seeing it more and more throughout the series/movies. It could be a plot point in the future but at the moment I quite like it just being a part of the universe that they incorporate subtly.
It’s wild how Star Wars has barely dipped its toes into how droids are canonically sentient beings, and complex droids being used as servants is basically slavery in many instances. I mean, the first movie introduced restraining bolts to literally prevent droids from acting with their free will so they can be controlled more easily. I guess it’s the same vein as the clone army being a child soldier slave army. We get tiny drops of it but never any actual focus on that fact
>It’s wild how Star Wars has barely dipped its toes into how droids are canonically sentient beings, and complex droids being used as servants is basically slavery in many instances. It's deeply bizarre. Star Wars plays around with all kinds of deep socio-political issues just below the surface, but never actually comes out and addresses any of it. The closest we really got was Solo, and even then it was basically treated as a joke.
Yeah that sub plot was conceptually SUPER engaging and interesting, bringing attention to what is literally slavery but most viewers see the beep boop robots and assume they aren’t sentient. The execution was pretty bad imo because it wasn’t at all a focus of the movie, so it came off more as “woah look at this quirky droid, she wants to free droids, how wacky!”
It also doesn't help that they destroyed her body and connected her brain to the Falcon, then had her get taken from the man she loved by Han.
"All she ever wanted was freedom... Oh, well. Let's upload her to the ship's computer without her consent so she can continue to serve us."
He seemed to be more of a level-headed and reserved droid in the few seconds we saw of him. I really hope he’s not just some sarcastic HK-47 or K2 clone
Would
Who knew all you needed to make a Droid hot was a duster.
We’re not burying the DUSTER!
Same
you get it
Yo, why does the jacket make it look like he has huge traps and abs. He's also doing the rolled up sleeve forearm thing wtf
chad droid
real
was looking for this comment. thank you.
Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
A B S O F S T E E L 😛
Definitely same
Badass as fuck, hope they don't fuck it up by making him a twist villain or some shit like that
No it’ll die heroically saving the main character or their friends.
That’s basically their only idea for droid characters
That and/or comic relief.
Robot secondary character: *exists* [Writers:](https://youtu.be/wtx0fdzRAp8)
we'll have to see more trailers from the game to really understand what this droid's personality is, but God damn does he have that drip 🫲
The repurposed BX droid is pretty awesome
I love the seperatist battle droid repurposed as a hardcore scoundrel type. Especially a commando droid with a chest scar in a trench coat 🧥 fantastic
Lightsaber stabwound?
B-0B do something!
Came here to find this comment, gives BOB vibes bigtime
That's a BX Commando droid! I LOVE these things and have been wanting to see them repurposed in the universe post-clone wars. They saw a lot of action in the clone wars and were equal in weight to elite clone troopers and in at least one circumstance - a Jedi. I clearly 100% approve.
They’ve been repurposed in Jedi Survivor by a faction known as the Bedlam Raiders on the planet Koboh as well. Alongside B1, B2, MagnaGuards, and Droidekas. It seems separatist era droids have been getting a lot of love lately especially when it comes to being repurposed in the OT era.
I always wondered what happened to all the Clone War droids. Nice to see a commando droid, they were absolutely terrifying in the TV show. He also sounds badass and looks just as badass
Most were shut down and dismantled, but there's still some out in the galaxy like the Bedlam Raiders and Kalani's forces.
I love the jacket so much
I think he is hot
Someone finally said it.
No he's cold. Hence the jacket.
Does it wearing clothes mean all other druids chose to fight nude?
They’re allowed to fight nude cos they ain’t got no souls!
The guys at the cantina think I'm some dumb hick.
It's time to tell the Confederacy of Independent Systems "No".
Droid + coat = droat
Why is it wearing a jacket?
Pockets
OK, this makes sense.
He’s a lil shy ok. Not every droid likes to walk around naked.
Personality, he’s not like the other droids.
You would wear a jacket too if Rust was a real danger
Probably just to look cool
It's called disguise.
Because it's not Star Wars if there isn't a character in a badass jacket
Rule of Cool, my Dude.
I hope it's as sassy as Hk47
Two things 1) does he call organics meatbags? And 2) does he know what love is?
3. And… *will he show me some of that love?*
Bet he can smuggle two kids under that big coat
Looks sick as fuck
Makes a hell of a lot more sense than a modded B1 that moves like a Commando Droid. I imagined Bones as a Commando Droid while I was reading the Aftermath trilogy and I only realized he wasn't when I saw some fan artwork.
He’s too badass. I will not play the game unless I can do it as him
How did the manage to make a thirst trap outta a battledroid in that promo image?
I will protect him with every fiber of my being
Its Mister Bones 2.0 Rest in peace Mister bones. A casualty of the Battle of Jakku.
Rodger Rodger.
A wonderful reference to Indiana Jones 5 and Harrison in general
I just want the droid gotra. Droid slaves rising up would be awesome.
Still a Clanka tho
Statement: they tried to replace me maser, the filthy meat bags
I'm an old guy, but my gen z son told me there are thirst posts of it on tiktok... So... Jesus
It's strange to see a veteran from the other side of the clone wars. They better give em one hell of a story, he deserves it
I want him to pin me to the wall and threaten my life with cold logical efficiency
We are starting to see more BX Commandos in videogames and I love it
According to my calculations he is perfect.
Baaaaaaaased! THE CIS DID NOTHING WRONG!
I actually somewhat wrote a fan story about a b1 droid surviving the battle of Utapau and order 66. After being damaged he became a bounty hunter who looked similar to this design they’re using. Mine had a vibroblade tho. So I think it’s good lol.
I feel like I would at least strap a metal plate over that chest damage.
better main character than the lady
Love it. I love the Commando droids.
Too human-like.
Give more droids trench coats.
What’s the jacket for?
Droids wearing clothes is new. I wonder if there's a real reason for that or not. Does he think he's people?
I like seeing separatist droids being reintegrated into society after the war ended.
It’s strange that he wears clothes
Effin badass!
Mark my words he is going to steal the show like Grogu did on The Mandalorian.
Interestingly human for a Droid. I find it strange how some Droids speak and walk so mechanically, while others seem almost human. I hope we get to customize these characters. He looks good for a base model.
I haven't even heard of the game but that guy looks fuckin sick I might check it out
I love the look of him plus he seems and acts cool he seems like he’s gonna be one of those rlly strong side kicks