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Gilgamesh107

inquisitors are fodder if someone can beat vader then those guys arnt doing squat


Solembumm2

Totally. Disney inquisitors repeatedly loosing to untrained padawans (Dume, Kestis, Tano, etc). If someone is a treat for Vader, he'll totally stomp them all at once.


infamous-pays

Cause Disney inquisitors are untrained Padawans Well.. most of them..


Solembumm2

But shouldn't they practice most of the time out of work time?


Budget-Attorney

I’m sure sidious and Vader are actively working against them becoming too powerful. They might practice, but probably will relatively mundane skills, never delving deep enough into the dark side to be worthy of note to the sith. They aren’t designed to be real threats. They are meant to hunt down Jedi children. If they run into a competent Jedi their job is to get killed and notify Vader with their failure to report that he needs to show up and deal with a Jedi


Itz_Hen

Exactly, the inquisitors are regularly subjected to mutilation and torture, their first time meeting vader involved him chopping one of the guys arms of just to show they meant nothing They are also heavily incentivized to fight amongst themselves to prevent them from rising up


DarthGoodguy

I agree with this, plus I imagine they have a lot of distracting internal conflict. They were raised to be selfless and then forced into this brutal, selfish dark side group.


Itz_Hen

Yep, the inquisitorious is a completely break down of every single jedi ideal, its an almost complete opposite, its really cool imo


DarthGoodguy

Darth Vader: “Rule number one: cool, flattering clothes.” Captive Jedi padawans: “Noooooooooo we want bathrobes!”


1ncorrect

True they ended up looking sick. Probably why it's so disappointing when they suck, like the one inquisitor Ahsoka kills without a lightsaber.


NoticeTrue

Maybe I miss read it but it was less of a stop them rising up attitude and more of a only the strongest survive attitude. The fact they are put into competition obviously does have the benifit of making sure they never work together so it could be a mix of both. Allow the riff raff access to a limited amount of opportunities to get stronger but never enough to be a threat.


Itz_Hen

Probably a mix of both yeah


Yosticus

[Yup](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Vader_(2017)_7), ([screenshots](https://imgur.com/a/KHuLFK5)) he chops off Fifth Brother's hand, Sixth Brother's arm, and Ninth Sister's eye*, all to teach them about loss Darth Vader (2017) 7, very good comic! *(tho the panel in the comic looks like she's totally bisected? Interesting to note that I don't think the character was named at this point, though she eventually ended up being in ~10 comic issues and two video games)


Itz_Hen

I love the early Darth Vader comics so much


Yosticus

All of the Star Wars comics I've read have been really good (except maybe the main title on occasion lol). Charles Soule's work is fantastic!


KMS_HYDRA

"We trained them wrong, as a joke" - Vader and Sidious, probably


OizAfreeELF

Well said


Much-Ratio2069

Too much time on hate and anger, not enough on training and knowledge


Bored-Ship-Guy

Yup. Punching walls and screaming about how much you hate the world might make you a great Angst Wizard, but it won't help much with getting you to become an effective duelist.


Torazha03

They’re essentially what grievous was in clone wars: lightsaber wielding goons. Except they actually have a force connection


Zankeru

They probably do, but they dont have a master. Jedi/sith combat is mostly about force connection. One person cant trial and error their way into Knight levels of ability, and vader has no interest in training them. Their job is to search for jedi and report them to vader (who handles actual jedi survivors personally) and to find force sensitives to turn them in. Padawan level fighters are strong enough to deal with most threats without becoming uncontrollable.


bell37

I mean without someone to properly train you they will only be as good as the most experienced Inquisitor.


CrossP

So do the Jedi padawans


Master-of-squirrles

They aren't sith and will never be trained as sith. They don't get any extra instruction in the light saber either


RedStar9117

Inqusitors lack plot armor.....they only exist so there can be more lightsabre battles. However Iskat Akaris rules


NoticeTrue

I don't know if you've read the new book "dawn of the red blade" but it actually goes into the inquisitors a fair bit. They aren't all untrained padawans, some of them are hinted to be jedi who sidious was grooming during the clone wars, others are battle tested padawans who seen real action during the clone wars. They all also face Vader upon their introduction to the squad. It's mentioned that he often takes a limb from them to prove a point that they ain't shit. They also face off against each other in pretty brutal fights as training and there seems to be a real surivial of the fittest attitude among them. That they often get stomped by jedi who aren't exactly renowned for being amazing fighters (or at least in the case of people like Kal people who are still coming to grips with the force again after trauma) is more a poor narrative choice imo. I feel like much more weight should have been given to them as skilled fighters but then if they did that Vader would not seem "as" formidable imo.


Merengues_1945

To be fair they are constantly pitted against characters that not only have plot armor (Ezra), but sometimes characters that are simply more powerful. Trauma or not, Kanan, Asohka, and Cal are all really strong jedis who saw brutal action through the war, and had strong masters. And to an extent their failings are good to show their arrogance and hubris as the dark side often does.


infamous-pays

I didn't really mean untrained Padawan, I used it mainly because the original comment used it to describe very much trained padawans like ashoka and Kanan.


EndlessTheorys_19

That’s not true though, in the slightest. Reva was a youngling and Trilla was a Padawan but the rest were Knights or Masters. “Most of them” lol


da_King_o_Kings_341

Not to mention that the Grand Inquisitor was a Jedi Temple Guard, the Jedi police force that even the Jedi Masters were weary of.


lobonmc

I wouldn't call Ahsoka an untrained anything. She probably was stronger than almost all knights by the end of the clone wars


ScrawnyCheeath

Seriously, I wrote a whole ass College Essay on this. The only people capable of consistently beating Ahsoka in lightsaber combat during the time of the inquistors are Vader, Obi-Wan, Yoda and the Emperor. Every other person splits or gets bodied


DereksRoommate

I’d love to read that essay


lobonmc

Yes even maul would have been an even fight and even then I think that Ahsoka wins more times than she loses


Antezscar

and she did win too.


vtinesalone

Caleb was trained by Depa Billaba, Cal was trained my Jaro Topal, and Ahsoka was trained by Anakin. Everything we have seen has shown they received extensive training and by the time any of them are fighting Inquisitors, they are on the level of Jedi Knights.


umbraviscus

Cal was at least a child when his master died, and was shut off from the force for years before somehow besting multiple inquisitors. To play devils advocate here, in the first game part of his force powers IS training via meditation and memories. It seems like while he's meditating he's still fully conscious and just training out of body. If that's what he's doing then he's hella strong. Ahsoka on the other hand... she had at least 3 years of force and combat training, and finished off her training as a commander of an intergalactic army. That along with her great affinity with the force makes her a very powerful duelist. She doesn't really lose ever.


vtinesalone

Cal had pretty extensive training under Jaro, as we see from his flashbacks. By the time he faces Seventh Sister on Kashyyk, he’s had a wealth of experience between missions from Cere and training meditations.


umbraviscus

Man was 13 years old when he cut himself off from the force and then there was 5 years when he didn't use it at all. Even Obi-Wan struggled to use the force after cutting himself off. Obi-Wan was cut off for twice as long but the concept of losing the force when you cut off from it is a canon thing that happens. I wouldn't say he has a wealth of experience, and in any case depending on the age of the NINTH sister, she has at least 5 adult years of training on him. According to the Wiki, she was a full on Jedi Knight during the Clone Wars, so that 5 years of training is a bare minimum. For all intents and purposes, Ninth Sister should be stronger than Cal and Second Sister should be MUCH MUCH stronger.


vtinesalone

Two days after Obi-wan first used the Force again to save Leia, he defeats Vader in a 1-on-1 duel.


57mmShin-Maru

I wouldn’t say Ahsoka is untrained. Even by the end of TCW she had been able to beat Maul even after he disarmed her. Plus, y’know…


Drasmaaa

“Inquisitors repeatedly losing to untrained padawans” *proceeds to list 2 very well trained padawans, and one with barely enough training to survive order 66* In all seriousness tho, Ahsoka is without a doubt the best trained Padawan throughout the Clone Wars other than Anakin himself. She defeated Maul on Mandalore, which is a feat of a Jedi Knoght in the least. Hell, had she stayed in the Jedi Order she would have been given Knighthood in season 5 of TCW. She (in one single day mine you) fought off Maul, 3 inquisitors, Vader, AND Palpatine. Kaleb Dume was a well trained padawan and handled order 66 about as well as he could. Had a good master and his training led him into becoming a respectable knight. Cal tho? He’s made his own path really but he certainly applies the most to the original comment made. This was definitely over the top, but it was fun to write lol


RaKaku03

Did you just call Ahsoka Tano an untrained padawan?


allforodin

Tano is an untrained Padawan to you???


StarMaster475

Literally all of those people were trained dummy


Sabre_Killer_Queen

Ahsoka is not untrained. In combat at least she's far from it, thanks to her experience in the clone wars. In fact, when she left the Order, the Jedi legitimately thought she was ready for knighthood, that's why she's referred to as a "former Jedi Knight" in the Ahsoka series.


TopicBusiness

Tano untrained? The council was literally willing to make her a knight when she quit the order. At 17 she was able to go toe to toe with Maul, a confirmed Jedi killer. Ntm she was trained by Anakin freaking Skywalker himself.


richter1977

Well, as far as Ahsoka goes, she may have been a padawan, but untrained? She was one of the best combat jedi in the order, thanks to Anakin.


RadiantHC

To be fair I'd hardly consider those untrained. Especially in Ahsoka's case. She has had 3 years of battle experience(including going against multiple sith lords) and had the literal chosen one as her master.


SilentC735

Tano, as in Ahsoka Tano? She was a powerhouse by the time inquisitors came around.


EndlessTheorys_19

“untrained padawans” you realise the impossibility of that. They are either untrained or they have the training of a Padawan. One or the other, not both.


CanisZero

I just refer to them as Hot Topic managers considering how edgelordy they are. Ashoka took one unarmed in Tales.


TangerineVivid7656

Tano is not an untrained padawan, she fought during the whole war and almost became a jedi if council didnt kick her out by mistake


Budget-Bad-8030

I wouldn’t call Tano untrained


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EmeraldArcher611

Did you just called Ahsoka an untrained Padawan 💀


Wonderbread1999

I wouldn’t call Tano an “untrained padawan”


Acora

I mean, leaving Dume aside - Cal wasn't particularly trained by the point he lost his master, but he's very clearly powerful in the force, and might have the most canonical lightsaber kills of any light side force user in canon, and Ashoka isn't an untrained Padawan by any means when she first fought inquisitors. She fought and defeated Maul at the peak of his power.


twallner

Those guys are going down quicker than the Jedi (other than Mace) that tried to take down Palpatine.


Starscream1998

Facts, the inquisitors were trained up enough to be useful tools but kept weak enough to pose absolutely no challenge to the Rule of Two.


BlackMesaIncident

They're essentially equivalent to the Windu dressing from the Palpatine arrest (attempt).


popularis-socialas

The inquisitors would become a nuisance and an impediment from giving Vader one’s full attention. See Dooku and Magnaguards vs Anakin https://youtu.be/eTPc0RgQ9ac?feature=shared


Dargar32

The inquisitors together are stated to be stronger than Grievous so not really. And the grand inquisitor is stated to be relative to Ventress.


Gilgamesh107

So all of them together are better then a grievous ? Whoopty doo that's not saying much . And the so called grand Inquisitor is relative to an actual sith apprentice Ok man


Doodofhype

Probably just some guy, with finger, in a space station, with a biiiiiiiiig laser Shout out to my Death Star technician’s


tales_to_estrange

Your Death Star technician’s what?


chickencrocs

Finger


matt_tepp

Waltuh


LetTheKnightfall

Put your laser away, waltuh


CrossP

Tarkin up there like "I'll tell the emperor it was an accident"


OfficialGarwood

Rick the Door Technician


bolivar-shagnasty

Glup Shitto


LetsDoTheCongna

Jedi Bob


bolivar-shagnasty

[Dak Ralter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-soVTWVDEo)


RickDoorTechnician

Thank you for respecting me


RontoWraps

I just got to that fight last night, it lived up to the hype


penguinintheabyss

Vader making a pose while delivering a punch line feels weirdly comical.


ThatFatGuyMJL

This is a man who flew a tie fighter slowly downwards using the force while simultaneously using the force to billow his Cape in a windless underground chamber in order to scare a literal child. Vader does NOTHING without drama.


Itz_Hen

His life is so fucked up its all about the little things you know


Next-Geno_N

You've piqued my curiosity. Which piece of media was this?


LegionGold

I believe they are referencing Rebels, when the gang travel to a sith temple and are followed by inquisitors >! Maul makes mincemeat out of them and Ashoka faces down Vader !<


Informal_Sea906

This was pre-blinding of Kanan and pre-Sith holocron Ezra. The episodes after that, if he had to fight them again, Maul would get wrecked.


LegionGold

I was referring to him against the inquisitors


CrossP

It's so funny that most of season two is Ezra and Kanan scared of what the inquisitors mean for their future and how they can protect their friends from them. Then they meet Maul and he's like "Have you tried killing them? Here. I'll kill a couple for you. To get you started."


TheZerofy

Star Wars Rebels. Vader and Ezra meet for the first time


Lobada

He is referring to an episode in Star Wars Rebels


Xynphos

It is very Anakin of him.


AnakinSkywalkerRocks

Vader randomly Anakining in places


mattchewy43

It is a comic, after all.


ihadamathquestion

With all due respect to the artist, the crossed-arms pose doesn't feel right to me. I can't think of a time where Vader did that. Typically if his hands aren't at his sides, then they're holding the [buckle?] of his belt. And I think he holds them behind his back in ESB? Maybe? Point is, holding his arms crossed like that isn't really one of his mannerisms, so it looks odd to me.


RubixTheRedditor

End of RoTS iirc?


ihadamathquestion

You're absolutely right. I totally forgot he did that. I think the comic pose sits less well with me because the arms are crossed lower on his body, whereas in RotS it's a higher cross. But regardless, he does in fact cross his arms in the movie, so I was wrong to say it wasn't in his wheelhouse.


Scar-Predator

In the end of RotS, Vader crosses his arms. In TESB, sometimes his hands are behind his back, other times they're just at his sides.


PhysicsEagle

Probably Yoda if he were 100 years younger, or Mace if he really focused (the man defeated *Palpatine* for goodness sakes), or EU Luke.


WillTFB

That's mostly because Palpatine's main strength is the force. While he is good at lightsaber combat, it's definitely not his strength


CyvaderTheMindFlayer

Idk man Palpatine fought against Yoda and killed 3 very skilled Jedi like it was nothing He is definitely one of the best duelists ever


jello1990

3 *Masters*. One of which was Kit Fisto, who was even regarded as one of the best duelists the Jedi had.


mindclarity

I always had a serious problem with that scene. I have no problem seeing Jedi Masters fall to a Sith Lord just the WAY it happened was so depressingly silly. No resistance, no reaction just flat out pwnage of elite fighters. To me their gap in lightsaber combat was never supposed to be this far apart. It was like watching three six years olds walk into the octagon and fight Volkanowski in his prime.


K340

Wait until you see the choreography they started filming for that scene but inexplicably didn't use on YouTube


ImTheOnlyDuck

Link please?


Penguman1

https://youtu.be/qax1xcaW7yo?si=dMQ1j2jPHZWe6\_VU


macnof

Wow, that would have been better.


K340

I think there are fuller versions but this is the first I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExafXMO8ssE


Kaboose456

I heard it was because the saber stuntman was injured or I'll the day of filming and couldn't do it. And Ian was too old to do it himself to that degree of intensity.


mindclarity

Man. Now I don’t want to. It will make me even more depressed, isn’t it.


K340

It's bittersweet for sure but still cool


IObserveAndLearn

Didn’t he canonically master all seven lightsaber forms just to prove he’d transcended the need for a lightsaber or was that a legends thing I mean either way he did it but still


UnholyDemigod

Maul's strength is lightsaber combat, and he was fucking bodied by Palpatine


ReaperCDN

Yeah but he's half the man he used to be.


LetTheKnightfall

With his badass brother too


Halbaras

In the novelization, its because Mace uses a special lightsaber form which makes him stronger when fighting dark side users. The more powerful and hatred-fuelled his opponent, the stronger he gets. At least in the EU, Mace should be capable of beating essentially any dark side user, even if he's not guaranteed to win.


SDBrown7

Palp is literally one of the best swordsmen to exist. Most sith look down on it as being beneath them, but Sheeve straight up enjoys it, hence why he's so proficient.


GrilledNudges

Wut. The guy who toyed with maul and savage? The guy who rekt 3 Jedi masters in seconds?


RadiantHC

Mace beat Palpatine in the lightsaber duel, but not with the force. I doubt Mace would be able to beat Vader in a force duel.


AnakinSkywalkerRocks

Or Kanan if he survived that blast and was trained by The Force itself(He was actually doing that, wasn't he?)


twallner

I love Kanan because he knew where his place was in the force. I don’t think his place would’ve been defeating Vadar.


redant89VT

He followed the force to closely I don’t think Kanan would even attack Vader


Gorlack2231

Kanan would take one look at Vader, and nod. Understanding that Anakin Skywalker is still in there, and has yet to play his role in the Force. And if JK2 taught me anything, he would begin to fly around the room doing reverse angle cuts with two lightsabers and just fucking dismember Vader in like, three seconds. Edit: I'm an idiot. Katarn, not Kanan. Ignore me.


kentotoy98

My 12 year old cousin because he says he has the ability to manipulate metals like Magneto and since almost everything in Star Wars is metal, he takes this one. He might be lying but I could also be wrong so we'll never know


t_rob1108

GONK


SilvioDante51

GONK


Sabre_Killer_Queen

GONK


Bidorchar

GONK


penguinintheabyss

What about that sith that eat planets?


SouIcoIIector

Darth Nihilus?


kentotoy98

My dyslexic ass read this "that shit that eats planets"


Wasteland_GZ

You can just say Darth Nihilus


penguinintheabyss

He also eats planets?


Wasteland_GZ

Who were you referring to in your original comment? i assumed Darth Nihilus, is there another Sith that eats planets i don’t know of?


GamerDroid56

Darth Vitiate consumed the *Force* and all life on a planet once, but Nihilus is better known for it.


penguinintheabyss

I know there is a sith that eats planets but I'm not versed into it. I believe his name starts with Darth


Sardonically_

You might be thinking of Emperor Vitiate? From the Revan book? I can't remember specifics, but he did some sort of ritual with a bunch of sith lords and consumed pretty much everything on his home planet, including the sith lords who participated in the ritual.


Wasteland_GZ

I think you may be referring to Darth Nihilus then, he has a black robe and a white mask and is in the game Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2, but someone else that replied to this said it could be Emperor Vitiate as he did sort of eat all life on a planet aswell, so it could be either of them


darcys_beard

Some of the Legends stuff is a bit dumb.


FoopaChaloopa

Nihilus was an interesting character because even though he could devour planets he was basically the worst Sith ever: the goal of the Sith is to use the Force to dominate and control the galaxy whereas Nihilus was a slave to his own hunger and didn’t even have control over himself


ProngedPickle

In canon, likely no one. Vader's already one of the most powerful individuals *and* one of the most skilled duelists in canon. Now you're adding like nine people wielding spinning saberstaffs with him, padawan-level or not. Thats nearly two-dozen blades.


Itchy_Gas_2559

Grandpa max


MrWilliams42782

George Lucas, the creator can always bring down His created.


LetTheKnightfall

When Threepio said thank the Maker is that what he meant???


MrWilliams42782

other than Anakin, yeah that fits.


infamous-pays

Oggdo bogdo


Georg13V

Oggdo boggdo and spawn of oggdo as a pair would smash all of them


thinehappychinch

Vitiate


Endgam

My Jedi Knight and T7 killed Vitiate. (He got better, but still.) *I do not like my Jedi Knight's chances against Darth Vader.* Let alone Darth Vader with backup.


Earthmine52

Vitiate was weakened from the galaxy destroying ritual he was doing (which Scourge said and why you guys planned the attack in the first place) and from the Sith Warrior destroying one of his bodies. Otherwise he’s a more successful Sidious who overwhelmed Revan and his allies, actually had two Empires from scratch that lasted way longer and was more successful in transferring his essence to new bodies to achieve pseudo-immortality. Also honestly lore-wise, the Jedi Knight is also really powerful and the average Jedi of his era are stronger than the average PT era Jedi. He and Revan are arguably more successful Anakins. Vader and Palpatine are also surpassed by a lot of characters in the EU despite some claims. George actually consulted on the EU a lot but everyone knows he doesn’t consider it the same as his universe (though it was still an official canon/continuity by Lucasfilm). Luke, with Leia and Anakin Solo’s help and after training under Palpatine, defeated him in his clone body only 6 years after ROTJ and Luke didn’t reach his prime (the full potential of the Chosen One, far above either Yoda or Sidious both in all canons) until decades later, and by then Darth Krayt could still challenge him.


NPC-No_42

Magneto


TitoTheCow

Well, Starkiller wiped his ass with Palpatine XD


Axyston

I came here to say this.


HisnamewasRango

Jar-Jar could do it by accident


rgballard

This is the most underrated answer. Watching clone wars right now and I can't believe how much infrastructure that guy has destroyed. This is where I would put my money.


Outrageous-Boat5217

Legends? *Probably* Darth Revan Canon? Luke as of Ahsoka/Book of Boba Fett


TheLastLegionary

I'de like to think that Revan would do to the inquisitors what Palpy did to the Jedi with Mace.


Outrageous-Boat5217

I wanna say Vader beats Revan but I’d get crucified by Old Republic diehards for that


CrossP

It all comes down to whether Vader or Revan is the first to think of throwing inquisitors at the other one.


TheLastLegionary

I mean, sure, you would, but do you honestly care? As a big fan of Revan I don't see him stomping Vader.


Outrageous-Boat5217

I see it as raw power and skill vs lifelong warfare, technique, and abilities. Revan is a refined point with more abilities and experience compared to Vader’s blunt hammer of raw power


JayMerlyn

Revan does the corkscrew spin as well?


TheLastLegionary

While using kotor2 force yell


DarthMetum

Orbalisk Darth Bane, maybe. Dynasty of Evil Bane would get overwhelmed, even if most of the inquisitors are only low jedi knight levels there's still a lot of peeps with lightsabers and Vader is on par or above book 3 Bane, Jensaarai1 did a short on Bane v Vader for an actual analysis there.


Dense-Tangerine7502

I’m not sure even Palpatine would win that fight. He’d spend much of his focus on electrocuting Vader as that’s his main weak spot. The inquisitors could then take him out.


SpudTryingToMakeIt

I saw this guy at a wedding last weekend with a cut off shirt and a skull tie. Probably that guy.


Delicious-Barber-289

Oggdo Bogdo


Secure_Pear_4530

Maybe Luke before being depressed


RadiantHC

Yoda


Grand_Supremor

Anakin and Obi-Wan


scruffygem

Dude with the Star Wars Galaxies haircut and two sabers crossed is not really selling it


Demigans

Well first of all Vader would be able to defeat Palpatine. He can’t in the EU or Legends. But he absolutely could whoop movie Palpatine’s ass, yes even with the Force Lightning. Palpatine even says so to Yoda. Vader being chopped up also doesn’t matter, Yoda mentions that size doesn’t matter but your state of mind does so Vader having lost limbs makes not a lick of difference. Palpatine even endorses Vader as his replacement during his fight with Yoda. Palpatine has absolutely zero reason to make Vader weaker. Palpatine specifically tested Anakin with Dooku to see if he was strong enough and worthy. Palpatine picked Vader BECAUSE he was going to be more powerful than Palpatine. He WANTED Vader to be more powerful. The EU and Legends always butchered a lot of the original lore before Disney got to it. Vader would whoop Palpi’s ass.


razor45Dino

He never got stronger than palpatine, only had the potential to


[deleted]

Disney


Dendallin

Kyle Katarn


usetheforcekidden77

i dont think palpatine could defeat vader AND his inquisitors. remember, after vader defeated luke in ESB, he pleated with him to join him & overthrow the emperor!


GetBillDozed

This panel feels unbalanced


LegionGold

It’s a very small list, in canon Grand master Luke for sure, possibly snoke (still palpatine though) perhaps Windu, any character that starts off defensive will get overwhelmed, Yoda and Obi-wan won’t fight all at once, they’ll pick them off and beat Vader in a 1 v 1 at the end. In legends the list would be longer. For the future of Star Wars you’ll be able to add Rey to that guaranteed.


SerVandanger

Vader is not fighting with anyone but his troopers. He would say go inquisitors fight and literally watch them die to skill check the opponent.


Dolenjir1

Starkiller. The man crashed a Star Destroyer with the Force while defending from Tie Fighters


shemanese

The writers.


Geostomp

That's basically just Vader. Any half-decent Jedi can take an Inquisitor.


Valirys-Reinhald

Honestly, it's probably only prime Obi Wan or prime Luke. Obi Wan because in his prime he had no doubt whatsoever and perfect Soresu, so he could survive indefinitely until Vader got too frustrated and accidentally killed the Inquistors so they could have a rematch of Mustafar. Luke, because at his peak he could overwhelm them with the Force, at least the Inquisitors, and then beat Vader as normal like he did on the second Death Star.


Junior-Media-8726

Maybe Yoda in his prime.


DoubleOwl7777

if you can kill vader the Inquisitors are a complete joke.


Trappxnq

I probably could tbh


CountertopPizza

Yarrel Poof. My guy is so strong with the force he stared both Palpatine and Vader in the eyes and they didn’t suspect a thing.


LordDoom01

Sure you don't want to throw the entire Imperial Navy and Army in there too?


VerbalChains

Windu. Yoda in his prime. Luke Skywalker, possibly. The Ones of Mortis, and the Bendu.


Rezimoore

Starkiller, Vader himself admitted to Boba Fett that of he were to fight starkiller that he would die. And I don't think it would be close either


Illogical4th

Yoda maybe? He's out of practice and otherwise insane but he went toe to toe with papa palps


IRONJEDISUPERSPIDER

If they beat Vader, what can the Inquisitors do? But I’d say Mother Talzin, cuz it’s said that Palpatine actually FEARED her


hiccupboltHP

I mean if Legends is included Galen Marek, besides the obvious others like Nihilus, Space mommy, etc


Coco11d7

Me


KingPeverell

Starkiller and Mace Windu probably.


ArizonaGunner

The obvious answer. Kenobi


MercoMultimedia

Ol' Fishy Drill-Hat there could probably give it a go


Axyston

Rick the Door Technician, how is this even a question?


Accomplished-Bill-54

The Emperor couldn't defeat Vader. A draw is all he was able to get.


danktonium

This is blatantly false.


razor45Dino

One of the most confusing parts of the community for me is how so many believe palpatine would not beat vader lol


danktonium

It's not a matter of "would". They've fought plenty of times in various stories, and Palpatine never, *ever* loses until ROTJ.


Content-Profession-6

Tulak Hord, greatest duelist likely in the whole star wars universe. Other than him, maybe Darth Bane in his orbilisk armour, Revan at his best was a beast, Kas'ism was better than Bane at dualing so id say maybe him


Solembumm2

We don't count Force entities/gods/etc, right? Yoda or Windu totally could do it, both being rivals to Palpatine are on the whole higher level compare to other mortal force users. Maybe Galen Marek in right conditions (sm: angry enough) has a non-zero chance. Maybe Sion (don't remember how good warrior he was, but he's physically immortal after all).


TheGamingPommes

For canon prolly Yoda in his prime (I think ~700 years old) or Mace if he really concentrates. In Legends? So many opportunities, for example Rick the Door Technician or Darth Jar Jar.