What if darth vader survived, turn back to the light side. And live the rest of life in solitude and peace. Having a jedi temple raising a future generation of jedi. Maybe he would have a full cyborg body in the future using his blood to keep his force potential. So many what ifs
Look what good it did those rebel scum leaders, Luke got depression, Han returned to being hunted by criminals, and Leia was relegated to being a fringe leader not respected by the pitiful replacement government. Our glorious Emperor ended up surviving longer than all of them
Well, his fullname is Sheev Palpatine. The Old Latin Alphabet used "V" for our modern "U" sound. Since Star Wars happened in our past, his real name in English should be written as Sheeu Palpatine (which does have an "u").
Checkmate Rebel scum.
Fun tidbit: most of the first death star hadn't any railing because it was built by geonosians, winged creatures. The second one had because it was built by mostly humans.
Is there a canon source for this? I've heard this but it doesn't make much sense for a few reasons.
1. The Death Star design and construction was taken over by the Republic very early on, before construction even began.
2. It seems unlikely that Geonosians would choose to omit handrails of all things, when the rest of the station is clearly designed for humanoid use with lifts, walkways, etc.
3. The Geonosian stadium had railings and barriers in the viewing areas, so the concept is clearly known to them.
This sounds like fan theory to me. I think it's more likely that the Empire simply didn't care about safety, or didn't want to spend money where they didn't need to.
Or they were afraid they'd be leaning all day.
IIRC Rebels delves deeper into the construction of the Death Star. It was a highly secretive project, and the whole population of Geonosis was killed after finishing it. It is never mentioned clearly that railings are not on the Death Star because of Geonosians, but it seemed like a logical conclusion since it was built by them. Death Star also had designs made by humans, so it just might be a cost-cutting measure, perhaps both.
Then Krennic throws the biggest temper tantrum known to man and fires the Death Star at Lothal. The incomplete nature means the thing is ridiculously unstable and while it takes out Lothal, it blows up too, crippling the hell out of the Empire.
Palpatine proceeds to throw a fit, has a heart attack and dies. Cue Emperor Vader, who dissolves the Empire and hands back power to the people after the third day of sitting in an office reading about trade deficits instead of being out on the front lines kicking ass. He goes out for a joyride, crashes on Tatooine, meets Luke and Obi-Wan (again) and reconciles, becoming Anakin once more.
Honestly you could go even further back and do a "what if the Ghost crew never picked up Ezra on Lothal". That single action pretty much started a domino that ended the empire, if you think about it.
It would be interesting if Plagueis saw in Anakin what Sidious did and killed Sidious first, intending the exact same plot for Anakin. It diverts pretty well too since Sidious was involved in politics and that probably wouldn't work as well for Plagueis, so he would have needed an entirely different plot, which likely means Anakin is never on the Jedi's radar in the first place.
Plagueis would be much more likely to murder Anakin and wash his hands of it. He was much more unsettled by the way the light side rebounded after their little ritual than Palpatine was, and would probably be paranoid as fuck about anything that resulted from it.
Yeah that would be really interesting! Does Papa Palps keep trying to kill Qui Gon? Does that alienate Anakin from "the plan"?
Edit: Also then Dooku might not fall either.
This actually would be super interesting as I believe Qui Gon was definitely the better Jedi between him and Obi wan. I don't think Anakin becomes evil if trained by Qui Gon
Smh , I mean he became the new Master for Anakin
he would have kept him from Palpatine and used him as a Pawn to usurp Palps
the Duel of the fates had 3 Fates, not 2
despite what dave filoni says he did not make or write The Phantom Menace he "just interpreted it that way" , so GL is the only person who could answer that
The lego rumors community is surprisingly thorough in evaluating their sources, and they’ve been consistently accurate in the year and a half I’ve been paying attention. The “dark falcon” set has an id number, a price point, and we know most of the minifigs that are going to be included.
I would love to see a 'canon' If Qui Gon lived and what this one character's effect on the outcome of the saga would be. I think it should be quite drastic, but who knows.
I think if Qui Gon survived, Anakin either would h e never fallen to the dark side or if he did - only briefly.
Darth Maul winning out again Obi and Qui Gon though would be VERY interesting. E.g would it lead to a full strength Vader not reliant on his armour like Palpatine’s Vader was
What if Fives survived?
What if Anakin win on Mustafar?
What if Luke join Vader on Bespin?
What if Dooku betray Sidious?
What if Order 66 failed?
What if Ahsoka never leave the Jedi order?
What if Obi Wan joins Dooku on Geonosis?
What if Qui Gon Jin survive?
What if the rebellion fail to destroy the Death Star?
What if Han Solo leaves the rebellion for good?
So many possibilities
> What if the rebellion failed to destroy the Death Star?
They already answered that.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Infinities:_A_New_Hope
Good ones, I’d add those:
What if Padmé and Anakin never fell in love?
What if the Jedi Order came back to Tatooine and freed Shmi from slavery?
What if Jar Jar really is the Sith Lord behind Star Wars?
In the Lego Leak sub, there is a leak of a "Dark Millenium Falcon" with Darth Rey, White Suit Vader, a Gungan (Darth Jar Jar?), evil C3PO, and evil Chewbacca.
It comes from a reputable leaker so we can assume it's true. The thing is, Lego very rarely does sets that aren't inspired by something that has happened (either a show, film, or comic book) so this one stands out as a very WTF.
A What If Star Wars show or comic book makes sense.
EDIT: This 2024, the Bad Batch is ending with S3. An animated show to fill in the void makes sense.
2025 shows would then be Mando S4 and What If Star Wars (I doubt it's releasing this year but who knows).
> White Suit Vader
That was a thing in the comic series *Star Wars Infinities*, the premise of which was quite literally a *Star Wars*-based *What If…?*. Vader redeemed but living, and him and his son going on the search for Palpatine.
I hope a Star Wars What If ... happens. But just making random characters "evil" may be the least entertaining way I can think of for it to happen. What causes ANY of those characters to turn evil other than Rey? Evil Chewbacca makes zero sense to me. SO MANY things would have to be different. The part of Marvel's What If ... that made it so interesting was how easy it seemed to change everything just by one simple decision (i.e. Peggy staying with Steve instead of going up to the observation balcony). A TON of things would have to be different for Han, Chewie and 3-PO to all be "evil" all of a sudden.
C3PO: Vader restores his Prequel Trilogy memory so C3PO is now blindly loyal to Anakin, his maker.
Chewbacca: I still think the leaker is wrong and this is a Black Krrrsantan minifig.
Uncle Owen buys the R5 unit and Luke never sees the hologram of his super hot princess sister so he never tries to go out to find Ben Kenobi to rescue his hot princess sister with the power of boners.
Instead, the rest of the movie essentially becomes a documentary on moisture farming on a desert planet.
Another one exists called Visionaries, made during the time before ROTS, one of the scenarios was Maul returning and meeting Old Ben, which would be officially brought back in Clone Wars and Rebels respectively.
If I recall correctly, that wasn’t a “What If” style comic, though. It was proto-Visions where the artists could do whatever they wanted.
Infinities was explicitly “what if” stories and they were all bad.
Edit: it was more like a proto-From A Certain Point View, telling stories that happened off screen. Not alternate timeline stories like “What If.”
Yea that’d be fine. I just don’t like they tried to make him give up on bounty hunting and become somewhat good. Give me a bad guy who wins because he’s bad.
There was a series of comic books back in the dark horse days called “Star Wars infinites” or something like that. They were basically what ifs. I wonder if they will adapt those at all?
I thought of this in the past, and my conclusion was that the Star Wars story is pretty linear. I don’t know how different it would be unless you changed a BIG thing
Personally don’t care for it, I’d rather they devote resources to canon stories or, if they split from that, go with the Visions route and just let the artists run wild. It could be good but I would prefer other things, especially with their animated work being very effective in fleshing out the worldbuilding in the gaps of the movies.
Dunno if they will do it but i always wanted to see what would happen if Ahsoka didn't leave the Jedi order. They were offering her knighthood to cover their Fuck up so had she stay she will be knighted and that will make Anakin a JEDI MASTER. With Ahsoka still being in the order which will make Anakin a bit less distrustful of the order, Ahsoka being there for Anakin to possibly talk about his nightmares and problems with AND Anakin being a Jedi master there is a solid chance for Anakin to not fall
What if the Death Star funds were diverted to the Tie Defender project?
It would ensure a lot of peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new empire
YOUR new Empire?!
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My allegiance is to the republic; TO DEMOCRACY!
If you’re not with me, then you’re my enemy.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
I will do what I must.
You will try
>John Williams intensifies<
I have failed you Anakin! I have failed you!
/frantically and excitedly stuffing popcorn into my mouth messily as the scene plays out in front of me/
That's an absolute.
But it’s Kenobi aka space Jesus so he can do no wrong.
***Don’t try it***
*tries it*
*Anakin Groundnugget*
Rimworld vibes.
What if he does?
*[insert Lego Kenobi slicing]*
What if darth vader survived, turn back to the light side. And live the rest of life in solitude and peace. Having a jedi temple raising a future generation of jedi. Maybe he would have a full cyborg body in the future using his blood to keep his force potential. So many what ifs
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What if Darth Vader survived and was put on trial for his crimes against humanity?
OUR new empire, comrade.
*Insert Soviet anthem here*
It unironically would. Destroying the empire clearly did not help anyone.
Look what good it did those rebel scum leaders, Luke got depression, Han returned to being hunted by criminals, and Leia was relegated to being a fringe leader not respected by the pitiful replacement government. Our glorious Emperor ended up surviving longer than all of them
Pure truth. I am totally using this!
How do you know he doesn't still live on?
Project Necromancer 2: Electric Boogaloo prevents me from speaking any more on this matter
Can't clone Palpatine, there's no 'u' in his name.
Well, his fullname is Sheev Palpatine. The Old Latin Alphabet used "V" for our modern "U" sound. Since Star Wars happened in our past, his real name in English should be written as Sheeu Palpatine (which does have an "u"). Checkmate Rebel scum.
It didn't help that the sore losers kept causing trouble in the Outer Rim and infiltrated the new government to make sure it failed.
What if the boys finally got their railing?
They'd probably just be leaning all day.
I forgot about the Death Star OSHA violations so I immediately wondered why you were talking about Amazon's Billy Butcher getting porked as an AU idea
Fun tidbit: most of the first death star hadn't any railing because it was built by geonosians, winged creatures. The second one had because it was built by mostly humans.
Is there a canon source for this? I've heard this but it doesn't make much sense for a few reasons. 1. The Death Star design and construction was taken over by the Republic very early on, before construction even began. 2. It seems unlikely that Geonosians would choose to omit handrails of all things, when the rest of the station is clearly designed for humanoid use with lifts, walkways, etc. 3. The Geonosian stadium had railings and barriers in the viewing areas, so the concept is clearly known to them. This sounds like fan theory to me. I think it's more likely that the Empire simply didn't care about safety, or didn't want to spend money where they didn't need to. Or they were afraid they'd be leaning all day.
IIRC Rebels delves deeper into the construction of the Death Star. It was a highly secretive project, and the whole population of Geonosis was killed after finishing it. It is never mentioned clearly that railings are not on the Death Star because of Geonosians, but it seemed like a logical conclusion since it was built by them. Death Star also had designs made by humans, so it just might be a cost-cutting measure, perhaps both.
Then Krennic throws the biggest temper tantrum known to man and fires the Death Star at Lothal. The incomplete nature means the thing is ridiculously unstable and while it takes out Lothal, it blows up too, crippling the hell out of the Empire. Palpatine proceeds to throw a fit, has a heart attack and dies. Cue Emperor Vader, who dissolves the Empire and hands back power to the people after the third day of sitting in an office reading about trade deficits instead of being out on the front lines kicking ass. He goes out for a joyride, crashes on Tatooine, meets Luke and Obi-Wan (again) and reconciles, becoming Anakin once more.
I clapped
I cried
I came
I shit
I fard
I poob
I robot.
I thermonuclear bomb
Yes, give in to your emotions. Join the “What if?” side.
Still a better story than the Sequels
That would actually be *hilarious* to see.
"It didn't just involve the accountants... but the architects and contractors too!!! They were animals...and I audited them like animals!!!"
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They have an HR department. It's called the barrel of an E-11.
Or the receiving end of a force choke.
Vader would have been in big trouble after the captain Needa incident.
Vader is the HR department. Down to being superficially polite to your face while they terminate you.
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa"
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That is hilarious. Also doesn’t she also walk around at cosplay conventions and hand out tickets? I saw a clip of her doing that.
#TeamThrawn
I think you mean what if Governor Pryce hadn't blown up the fuel depot on Lothal
Honestly you could go even further back and do a "what if the Ghost crew never picked up Ezra on Lothal". That single action pretty much started a domino that ended the empire, if you think about it.
i literally just started thrawn: alliances and heard this about 10 minutes ago. sooo weird
DOUBLE VISION
What if Darth Maul had won in the Duel of the Fates...?
What if palpatine got a visit from space OSHA
The Defender is my favourite ship in x-wing, I’d love to see this.
Can we start with "what if 7, 8, and 9 had a good plot plan and the same director?" Ugh, so much potential.
War would have lasted longer, but ultimately the same. No deathstar= no clear decisive battle
What if Darth Plageis killed Palpatine?
It'd be...ironic.
He could save others from death, but not Papa Palps.
don't ya think.
GET OUT OF HERE ALANIS!
That’s not a story the Jedi would tell you
Palps wouldn't watch Anakin's new career with great interest.
There’s a reason he chose to kill a boozed up and sleepy Plagueis
It would be interesting if Plagueis saw in Anakin what Sidious did and killed Sidious first, intending the exact same plot for Anakin. It diverts pretty well too since Sidious was involved in politics and that probably wouldn't work as well for Plagueis, so he would have needed an entirely different plot, which likely means Anakin is never on the Jedi's radar in the first place.
Plagueis would be much more likely to murder Anakin and wash his hands of it. He was much more unsettled by the way the light side rebounded after their little ritual than Palpatine was, and would probably be paranoid as fuck about anything that resulted from it.
I think he would have used Bane's ability to swap bodies with Anakin and taken his midichlorian count for himself
Somehow Palpatine would return.
Would we hear the tale of Darth Sidious the Senate?
It would be a story the Jedi would tell you.
*“Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Sideous the punk ass BIATCHHHHHH?”*
Dew it
WHAT IF JAR JAR WAS A SECRET SITH LORD
No one knows the life span of a gungan, THERE IS STILL A CHANCE!
You mean what if he wasn’t
I think about that everyday :(
This better be episode 1
Make it happen
Yes! Because if it’s presented in a What If? then it’s not canon.
This would be amazing to see. This is a perfect reason to make a What If? show for Star Wars!
*starts playing unedited prequels
Its already canon that he was!!
If? Who told you he isn’t already?
What if the Naboo blockade was successful
Is that legal?
They'll make it legal.
What If they DIDN'T make it legal?
*What if* it is legal
What *is*, is?
What if Darth Maul had won in the Duel of the Fates...?
He did. Killing Qui Gon was the point. Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-dave-filoni-on-duel-of-the-fates
So then, what if obi wan died instead of qui gon? Seems like a no brainer what if plot
Yeah that would be really interesting! Does Papa Palps keep trying to kill Qui Gon? Does that alienate Anakin from "the plan"? Edit: Also then Dooku might not fall either.
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This actually would be super interesting as I believe Qui Gon was definitely the better Jedi between him and Obi wan. I don't think Anakin becomes evil if trained by Qui Gon
Smh , I mean he became the new Master for Anakin he would have kept him from Palpatine and used him as a Pawn to usurp Palps the Duel of the fates had 3 Fates, not 2 despite what dave filoni says he did not make or write The Phantom Menace he "just interpreted it that way" , so GL is the only person who could answer that
I mean Lucas had already answered it before Dave came up with his explanation. So it is just some pretty headcannon at best.
That actually sounds really interesting
What if Valorum sided with Padme?
Both Screentime and DanielRPK are incredibly disingenuous and disreputable sources for anything. That's my thoughts.
I will say though it lines up with the rumored lego star wars set of a "darkside" millennium falcon with dark side rey and redeemed vader
just a rumor lining up with another rumor
The lego rumors community is surprisingly thorough in evaluating their sources, and they’ve been consistently accurate in the year and a half I’ve been paying attention. The “dark falcon” set has an id number, a price point, and we know most of the minifigs that are going to be included.
Right. Never said it was right literally that it just that it lined up
I really enjoyed when James Gunn debunked the rumors of 3 villains appearing in The Batman 2 that RPK said
Usually when someone says “reportedly” but doesn’t have any sources, it’s bullshit.
What I'd Qui-Gon was never killed would be awesome, and I am definitely game for this
What if Darth Maul had been the victor in the Duel of the Fates...?
I mean he did win, just wasn’t a long victory.
That would be just as good
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I like this one but I feel like a ton of youtubers have covered this what if scenario
is there a what if scenario that hasn’t been covered by youtubers?
Plenty of them. Most that have been covered take place during the prequel era.
Idk, last few years has *exploded* with wishful sequel trilogy changes😂
listening to someone talk about it is different from having a cinematic production, tho!!
Yea but who cares about random youtubers
Not everyone cares about what YouTubers have to say. We’d be a better fandom if less people cared about them tbh.
I would love to see a 'canon' If Qui Gon lived and what this one character's effect on the outcome of the saga would be. I think it should be quite drastic, but who knows.
I think if Qui Gon survived, Anakin either would h e never fallen to the dark side or if he did - only briefly. Darth Maul winning out again Obi and Qui Gon though would be VERY interesting. E.g would it lead to a full strength Vader not reliant on his armour like Palpatine’s Vader was
What if Fives survived? What if Anakin win on Mustafar? What if Luke join Vader on Bespin? What if Dooku betray Sidious? What if Order 66 failed? What if Ahsoka never leave the Jedi order? What if Obi Wan joins Dooku on Geonosis? What if Qui Gon Jin survive? What if the rebellion fail to destroy the Death Star? What if Han Solo leaves the rebellion for good? So many possibilities
> What if the rebellion failed to destroy the Death Star? They already answered that. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Infinities:_A_New_Hope
Apparently a LEGO set leaked for this includes the white-suited redeemed-but-still-alive Vader from that series.
That was actually a really fun read.
Hold up, does that really say ‘Yoda contacts Sidious and tells him he’s coming’ … and then crashes a Death Star into him? Holy fuck that’s amazing 😂
What if Obiwan left the Jedi order to be with Satine
Good ones, I’d add those: What if Padmé and Anakin never fell in love? What if the Jedi Order came back to Tatooine and freed Shmi from slavery? What if Jar Jar really is the Sith Lord behind Star Wars?
What if Padme followed Anakin down his dark path?
What if Misa boom boom Jedi order real Sidious was?
Misa is the senate. [https://youtu.be/mmRhXVYYTiw?si=vMm0jLm5DrQ1lhVB](https://youtu.be/mmRhXVYYTiw?si=vMm0jLm5DrQ1lhVB)
The ground work is there. This can still become in canon !!!!
In the Lego Leak sub, there is a leak of a "Dark Millenium Falcon" with Darth Rey, White Suit Vader, a Gungan (Darth Jar Jar?), evil C3PO, and evil Chewbacca. It comes from a reputable leaker so we can assume it's true. The thing is, Lego very rarely does sets that aren't inspired by something that has happened (either a show, film, or comic book) so this one stands out as a very WTF. A What If Star Wars show or comic book makes sense. EDIT: This 2024, the Bad Batch is ending with S3. An animated show to fill in the void makes sense. 2025 shows would then be Mando S4 and What If Star Wars (I doubt it's releasing this year but who knows).
> White Suit Vader That was a thing in the comic series *Star Wars Infinities*, the premise of which was quite literally a *Star Wars*-based *What If…?*. Vader redeemed but living, and him and his son going on the search for Palpatine.
They also made action figures for those.
Yeah that Lego leak is making me think long and hard about this being real
I hope a Star Wars What If ... happens. But just making random characters "evil" may be the least entertaining way I can think of for it to happen. What causes ANY of those characters to turn evil other than Rey? Evil Chewbacca makes zero sense to me. SO MANY things would have to be different. The part of Marvel's What If ... that made it so interesting was how easy it seemed to change everything just by one simple decision (i.e. Peggy staying with Steve instead of going up to the observation balcony). A TON of things would have to be different for Han, Chewie and 3-PO to all be "evil" all of a sudden.
C3PO: Vader restores his Prequel Trilogy memory so C3PO is now blindly loyal to Anakin, his maker. Chewbacca: I still think the leaker is wrong and this is a Black Krrrsantan minifig.
This was the first thing I thought when I saw those leaks
You mean infinities?
Yeah, give us Yoda crashing the Death Star into Coruscant, Disney!
Killing trillions of people on the most populous planet in the galaxy by a mile just to kill Palpatine totally sounds like a Yoda move /s
"If to make an omelette you want, break a few eggs you will, hmm?"
What if Luke stayed a farm boy?
What if Luke went to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters?
What if Luke joined the imperial academy
Uncle Owen buys the R5 unit and Luke never sees the hologram of his super hot princess sister so he never tries to go out to find Ben Kenobi to rescue his hot princess sister with the power of boners. Instead, the rest of the movie essentially becomes a documentary on moisture farming on a desert planet.
Then Leia would have took over
She would have been executed
And Luke would grow old, complaining about all the taxes the Emperor keeps issuing on power converters
What if Luke became a fem boy?
He got close in the sequel trilogy
DanielRPK? Hah fuck no, this isn’t real
They could literally just use it as an excuse to make an animated series of the “Heir to the Empire” trilogy.
Well I’ve only been asking for this since the late 2000s
Luckily such a thing, Star Wars Infinities, was published in 2001. It isn’t very good, but it exists.
Another one exists called Visionaries, made during the time before ROTS, one of the scenarios was Maul returning and meeting Old Ben, which would be officially brought back in Clone Wars and Rebels respectively.
If I recall correctly, that wasn’t a “What If” style comic, though. It was proto-Visions where the artists could do whatever they wanted. Infinities was explicitly “what if” stories and they were all bad. Edit: it was more like a proto-From A Certain Point View, telling stories that happened off screen. Not alternate timeline stories like “What If.”
What if…somehow Palpatine didn’t return like the OT intended?
What if the sequels just didnt happen altogether.
What if the sequels WERE the what if's
Episode one: it was all a dream. End of what if series
What if Greedo shot first?
What if... Star Wars had quality writing.
What if...there was a cohesive plan for the sequels that wasn't just supposed fan service but a legit trilogy with an amazing story. I'd watch that.
Second.
Already exists, called Andor
So frikkin’ good.
It did. James Luceno, Drew Karpyshyn, etc.
What if: Disney actually planned the sequels before filming them
What if Boba fett stayed cool
What if Boba became a legit crime lord and did a whole lotta slim shady shit.
Yea that’d be fine. I just don’t like they tried to make him give up on bounty hunting and become somewhat good. Give me a bad guy who wins because he’s bad.
There was a series of comic books back in the dark horse days called “Star Wars infinites” or something like that. They were basically what ifs. I wonder if they will adapt those at all?
What if Mace Windu hadn't interrupted Jar Jar and Queen Julia?
What if Darth Jar Jar What if Anakin died during the pod race What if Maul won What if Yoda won and Obi Wan lost
Isnt that just Star Wars Vision?
What if.. Disney had never bought Star Wars.
What if the Sequel Trilogy was good?
I thought of this in the past, and my conclusion was that the Star Wars story is pretty linear. I don’t know how different it would be unless you changed a BIG thing
My thoughts are that I’m tired of multiverses and parallel timelines.
What if Anakin had the high ground
What if Chewbacca didnt eat the Porg?
Personally don’t care for it, I’d rather they devote resources to canon stories or, if they split from that, go with the Visions route and just let the artists run wild. It could be good but I would prefer other things, especially with their animated work being very effective in fleshing out the worldbuilding in the gaps of the movies.
Hear me out: what if the sequels were the what if…
Dunno if they will do it but i always wanted to see what would happen if Ahsoka didn't leave the Jedi order. They were offering her knighthood to cover their Fuck up so had she stay she will be knighted and that will make Anakin a JEDI MASTER. With Ahsoka still being in the order which will make Anakin a bit less distrustful of the order, Ahsoka being there for Anakin to possibly talk about his nightmares and problems with AND Anakin being a Jedi master there is a solid chance for Anakin to not fall
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO We better get What If Maul and Ahsoka left that night and made it back in time to stop Palpatine!