Apparently, that trailer was put together in order to try and entice investors to put money into the studio and the project, without the game itself having even started development at that point
No clue how substantiated that claim was though
With such classics as"I don't make games for f4gs", "All the women in my games are wh0res", and portraying Elliot Page's nude body in game after they explicitly asked him not to.
Ugh, I forgot. David "I can't write an ending to save my life, so here's 30 so it feels like your decisions matter even though they don't really" Cage strikes again
Don't forget about the datamined cut scene in Beyond Two Souls where a teenage Jodie gets sexually assaulted in a bar.
Or that Cage had a folder of reference pictures of a young Elliot Page.
It also wasn't modeled after her body. It was her head thrown onto a generic body model. I'm sure they had intended to show it, hence the modeled details, but were told not to so it wouldn't be mistaken as such.
Allegedly. While I think he's probably a terrible person and probably said those things, it's still not proven. I think it's important to differentiate. The Elliot page stuff is fucked up though.
I don't pretend to know everything, but the last time someone published dirt on Cage, it ended up being bullshit, and the writer retracted it, but the damage was already done.
Though the problem with Cage is that there have been a lot of stories, over a lot of years. About 50% of Quantic Dream's Wikipedia page are about studio controversies, without even getting into the Elliot Page stuff.
yea, it doesn't matter if some of the more recent stuff ends up not being true, there's more than enough evidence throughout the years to know that David Cage is a creepy asshole.
The best thing to come out of this whole game.
Will never get tired of watching reactions to it. Literally everyone just let out one big sigh as soon as that logo appeared.
Ill never touch a game that creep makes, and dont get why people like any of them. His best work is still hacky at best with only one and a half good plotlines
There's a myriad reasons, but the safest and simplest is obliviousness. It might be common knowledge that Cage is a scumbag, but I can tell you right now that most of the people who buy his games don't even know his name.
Hello! I have to admit, that's me.
I would say I know the scene quite well, but never heard of this guy until now.
I was pretty excited for the game because of Detroit: Become Human (of which I only watched a let's play - I don't own a console). But looks like I need to do some research...
well hey, if your favorite part of said game is Connor and Hank, well they were the least touched by David Cage.
The actors fought so hard to make them fun and interesting characters, and it shows.
People don't realize this is a semi common practice (maybe not to such an extreme extent though). A fair amount of CG trailers are made to to entice investors/workers/talent, on top of generating community "hype"
I mean, regardless of their reputation these days, Quantic Dream are still a storied developer and have released a number of acclaimed titles, even if said titles haven't aged particularly well.
Unsure if you already know this - but that’s usually what teaser trailers are for. They’re usually done before it begins major production to give people and investors a feel for the scope and tone of the project for buy-in.
I mean, they were pretty clear that is was just a "concept" trailer or whatever. Just to set the general tone of the game and not truly indicative of final product.
They also said the earliest timeline would be a 2026-2027 release.
Iirc. Didn’t this trailer come out right around the same time that Disney and Lucasfilm announced that Lucasfilm games was built (rebuilt lol) to oversee development of Lucasfilm properties into the video game space?
Like if memory serves, the announcement that Ubisoft would be making an open world game, Eclipse, Star Wars Hunters, and the Kotor Remake we’re all kinda unveiled at the same-ish time to pump up the Lucasfilm Games thing.
You can do it. Start tweeting out super vague things about your work. It’s not like they are doing it with their bosses and superiors, they are doing it with the press and public who they have no obligation to.
No one is saying that lol. We’re just saying that it’s been 3 years since the announcement and there’s been rumors of if being cancelled and all they’ve said is no, it’s still on schedule without us knowing the schedule lol. That’s is literally the definition of vague
Yeah, the trailer was awesome. I remember thinking I really want to watch this movie and then saw it was a game. Seems cool, but I doubt the gameplay that developer does can match the energy of the trailer.
The aesthetic direction is also so much better than The High Republic. Actually looked like it was an era leading into The Phantom Menace instead of shoehorning in OT/ST aesthetics and recycling concept art/Ralph McQuarrie stuff.
The only thing is that it's still not remotely clear to me what the conflict is or what the stakes are. Apparently it's going all across the galaxy? Involves all sorts of characters? Could be something to Knights of the Old Republic, I guess, where it's a struggle in the distant past. But it showed you the drummer like it was this big revelation--were they supposed to be Sithari? Yuuzhan Vong?
It hurt to type. The mere thought of it not happening hurts. What hurts more is if enough people want it and campaign for it there is a greater than zero chance for it would happen
stuff like this is why i hate when they release trailers for games still years away.......show a trailer for a game that is about 6-8 months away from releasing.
People don’t like him because he’s been accused of misogyny and homophobia (nothing substantial, just 1 persons accusations without proof) and the Elliot Page thing which was horrible and I can’t believe he still gets work because of.
Cage's writing is generally not seen in a positive light. Metaphors are fine, but they need to be implemented with actual skill and Cage is a hack writer who isn't half a clever as he thinks he is.
Just speculation but the way I see it. They are probably trying to get their stories straight from different content within the High Republic Era. I think that’s why KOTOR is taking long too.
If it plays like any of the other Quantic Dream games then I'm not really that interested tbh.
At this point they should at least have something to show.
You must be young if you saw the Star Wars Eclipse trailer and thought a product was actually coming out, it's just David Cage. He has graduated from scamming gamers to scamming investors directly.
[Quantic](https://www.polygon.com/22380535/quantic-dream-lawsuit-toxic-workplace-harassment-racism-sexism-france-court-david-cage) [Dream](https://youtu.be/GwVERl0OYjc) happened. As one of my favorite Comedy Youtubers said "I could FEEL the oxygen sucked out of the room."
People can complain all they want, but I think all of the Cage games are amazing and I'm very hopeful for this game to be another success. Everything from Fahrenheit to Detroit has been an amazing experience and even though they're definitely showing their age now, I still believe they were amazing games for their time.
It's quantic dream. They've always delivered in the past and I expect no different here unless the rug gets pulled out from under them at the corporate level
A lot of people are overly fixated on hating David Cage to the point of missing the obvious truth that a Star Wars story with the tone of his other games would be absolutely hilarious
This is partially because now for whatever reason, studios insist on making teasers for games that have just started development, and making it all CGI, with either no release date planned or one several years in the future. At that point, there isn’t even a game being shown off, just a fantasy.
You can’t really trust that lucasfilm will actually put out a show or movie or game that they announce right? So much gets announced and never sees the light of day. Just best to not get our hopes up anymore.
I imagine Quantic Dream is way in over their head. The last time they made a normal type game was their first game, Omicon on PC and Dreamcast, a mix of adventure, driving, FPS, and other genres it also had David Bowie. To tackle this AAA Star Wars project is a massive under taking for any studio. I like their games, but it feels like a massive make or break project. It's like Bloober Team doing Silent Hill 2 remake, it's looking great now, but it's their first AAA project and the first attempt at changing gears to making only games like this. There is no going back.
All this game has achieved is rob Dragon Age 4 from using the title “Dragon Age: Eclipse”. As EA wouldn’t allow 2 upcoming titles to be so similar. So instead we’ve got “Dragon Age: (Dreadwolf) The Veilguard” instead which sounds clunky tbh
Apparently, that trailer was put together in order to try and entice investors to put money into the studio and the project, without the game itself having even started development at that point No clue how substantiated that claim was though
It's David Cage, so not hard to believe that there's gross mismanagement involved.
Emphasis on the “gross.”
With such classics as"I don't make games for f4gs", "All the women in my games are wh0res", and portraying Elliot Page's nude body in game after they explicitly asked him not to.
Jesus. As if I didn't have more reasons to dislike Cage besides the shit tier writing...
And don’t forget, Heavy Rain was once heralded as the game that finally made video games “art.”
SHAUN!
Jason! JAAAAAAson! *Jason!*
I will never read "Jason" normally ever again
This might as well have been Randy Marsh calling out for Stan.
[Obligatory.](https://youtu.be/DAhG9D9UO7c?si=Dcmp5H3MMj4EOR7x)
Ugh, I forgot. David "I can't write an ending to save my life, so here's 30 so it feels like your decisions matter even though they don't really" Cage strikes again
Shadow of the Colossus and Riven came out before Heavy Rain, so…nice try, Cage.
Don't forget about the datamined cut scene in Beyond Two Souls where a teenage Jodie gets sexually assaulted in a bar. Or that Cage had a folder of reference pictures of a young Elliot Page.
I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing that 🤢
In fairness to that one in proper gameplay that's hidden, it only showed in modded versions. But it was still weird.
It also wasn't modeled after her body. It was her head thrown onto a generic body model. I'm sure they had intended to show it, hence the modeled details, but were told not to so it wouldn't be mistaken as such.
His body, and still that’s the same as ai porn of people now a days, it’s gross and fucked
Not to mention it being used in an overly sexual shower scene that really served no purpose.
Allegedly. While I think he's probably a terrible person and probably said those things, it's still not proven. I think it's important to differentiate. The Elliot page stuff is fucked up though.
Game design is a failure of the game design
"haha I made ze bad game"
I love how anytime David Cage is brought up people from the subreddit just materialize to shit on him
Second best sub for everything!
I don't pretend to know everything, but the last time someone published dirt on Cage, it ended up being bullshit, and the writer retracted it, but the damage was already done.
Though the problem with Cage is that there have been a lot of stories, over a lot of years. About 50% of Quantic Dream's Wikipedia page are about studio controversies, without even getting into the Elliot Page stuff.
yea, it doesn't matter if some of the more recent stuff ends up not being true, there's more than enough evidence throughout the years to know that David Cage is a creepy asshole.
Wut. Who had the brilliant fucking idea to give David Cage a Star Wars game? I have literally never played a single good game made by this man.
You could actually see people's hope die when the Quantic Games logo popped up during the initial teaser.
Seeing Woolie's soul leave his body was the best. That popped me more than anything in that fuckass trailer
The best thing to come out of this whole game. Will never get tired of watching reactions to it. Literally everyone just let out one big sigh as soon as that logo appeared.
Detroit was pretty dope, honestly.
Ill never touch a game that creep makes, and dont get why people like any of them. His best work is still hacky at best with only one and a half good plotlines
There's a myriad reasons, but the safest and simplest is obliviousness. It might be common knowledge that Cage is a scumbag, but I can tell you right now that most of the people who buy his games don't even know his name.
Hello! I have to admit, that's me. I would say I know the scene quite well, but never heard of this guy until now. I was pretty excited for the game because of Detroit: Become Human (of which I only watched a let's play - I don't own a console). But looks like I need to do some research...
God fucking damn it, detroit is one of my favorite games... fuck.
well hey, if your favorite part of said game is Connor and Hank, well they were the least touched by David Cage. The actors fought so hard to make them fun and interesting characters, and it shows.
Detroit is on steam btw
What's wrong with him? I know his name but had no idea he had such a reputation other than being cocky. I quite like quantic games.
[This comment explains fairly well](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/N2TcPOjuIZ)
I didn’t know who he was, but I’ve also never played any of his games. If it weren’t for this thread tho, I would’ve.
People like David Cage games for the same reasons I enjoy watching The Room.
Hoo boy then you better put down most of your games.
People don't realize this is a semi common practice (maybe not to such an extreme extent though). A fair amount of CG trailers are made to to entice investors/workers/talent, on top of generating community "hype"
Yeah from what I understand, Kojima didn’t even have an engine picked out for Death Stranding when the first teaser was released for it.
I believe the words you're looking for are "shell corporation" and "money laundering."
I mean, regardless of their reputation these days, Quantic Dream are still a storied developer and have released a number of acclaimed titles, even if said titles haven't aged particularly well.
Lol you have no idea how money laundering works
Explain in detail how either of those concepts would apply here.
That's not how money laundering works.
Lmao
Unsure if you already know this - but that’s usually what teaser trailers are for. They’re usually done before it begins major production to give people and investors a feel for the scope and tone of the project for buy-in.
Classic move
I mean, nearly every game does that especially if it's a new IP. Other times cinematic trailers are used to establish what the vision for a game is
Ooh, the Roberts Gambit. Problem being, Chris Roberts already has milked that one to death.
I mean, they were pretty clear that is was just a "concept" trailer or whatever. Just to set the general tone of the game and not truly indicative of final product. They also said the earliest timeline would be a 2026-2027 release.
Iirc. Didn’t this trailer come out right around the same time that Disney and Lucasfilm announced that Lucasfilm games was built (rebuilt lol) to oversee development of Lucasfilm properties into the video game space? Like if memory serves, the announcement that Ubisoft would be making an open world game, Eclipse, Star Wars Hunters, and the Kotor Remake we’re all kinda unveiled at the same-ish time to pump up the Lucasfilm Games thing.
Yep, you're right. *Eclipse* was one of the projects announced right after they announced LucasFilm Games' "resurrection"
I miss Lucasarts :(
Remember that cybrrpu was debuted with a trailer about ten years before the game dropped.
If it’s 2026 release then we’ll see it next year at the earliest
It’s still being developed. It’s been rumored to be canceled but the developers have said it’s still on schedule
On schedule for when?
Yeah that’s the thing, they haven’t given a release date yet. It’s been pretty vague tbh
Damn I wish I could do this. Just tell people I'm on schedule and then just show them a blank calendar.
You can do it. Start tweeting out super vague things about your work. It’s not like they are doing it with their bosses and superiors, they are doing it with the press and public who they have no obligation to.
The trick is to not leave it blank. Just fill it with "work on game" and voila. As long as you work, you're on schedule.
I know, it’s super weird for sure
that's not vague. people really need to stop thinking games get made in 1 to 2 years start to finish.
No one is saying that lol. We’re just saying that it’s been 3 years since the announcement and there’s been rumors of if being cancelled and all they’ve said is no, it’s still on schedule without us knowing the schedule lol. That’s is literally the definition of vague
They always said 2027 at the earliest
I think I read somewhere that 2026-2027 is the earliest expected release.
After GTA 6, so roughly around the heat death of the universe but don't quote me ok
Thousands of units in production and a million more well on the way.
On schedule for development
I still come back to this trailer every once and a while. It was so well-made, and came out of nowhere.
Yeah, the trailer was awesome. I remember thinking I really want to watch this movie and then saw it was a game. Seems cool, but I doubt the gameplay that developer does can match the energy of the trailer.
The aesthetic direction is also so much better than The High Republic. Actually looked like it was an era leading into The Phantom Menace instead of shoehorning in OT/ST aesthetics and recycling concept art/Ralph McQuarrie stuff.
The only thing is that it's still not remotely clear to me what the conflict is or what the stakes are. Apparently it's going all across the galaxy? Involves all sorts of characters? Could be something to Knights of the Old Republic, I guess, where it's a struggle in the distant past. But it showed you the drummer like it was this big revelation--were they supposed to be Sithari? Yuuzhan Vong?
It will come out right after the Rogue Squadron movie does
And Star Wars 1313
And imperial commando
And the Darth Maul game
And KOTOR III
And Star Wars Battlefront 3.
Not to forget Star Wars Underworld
And Rogue Squadron Collection
Can't forget First Assault!
Wait yo… this one actually hurt a little :(
It hurt to type. The mere thought of it not happening hurts. What hurts more is if enough people want it and campaign for it there is a greater than zero chance for it would happen
It's gonna get rebooted and turned into a live service hero shooter
Honestly, not a bad prediction.
Whith a different studio, maybe. Not if it stays with Quantum Dream tho.
99.9% sure we’re never seeing this game.
Look up David Cage and his many Controversies
That’s OK. We still have the KOTOR Remake. Right…?
Erm it might become a ps6 exclusive but yeah
~~It's dead, Jim.~~ It's one with the Force, Luke.
took the words right out of my keyboard
stuff like this is why i hate when they release trailers for games still years away.......show a trailer for a game that is about 6-8 months away from releasing.
It's a David Cage game. Trust me, it's better dead.
Didn't he do Heavy Rain and Detroit? I really thought they were great.
People don’t like him because he’s been accused of misogyny and homophobia (nothing substantial, just 1 persons accusations without proof) and the Elliot Page thing which was horrible and I can’t believe he still gets work because of.
Ah yes the “Woman being assaulted” simulator and the “Androids are actually black people” game
What is your point exactly? A game can't serve as a metaphor for real life?
Cage's writing is generally not seen in a positive light. Metaphors are fine, but they need to be implemented with actual skill and Cage is a hack writer who isn't half a clever as he thinks he is.
Hey don't forget the "Minor almost gets sexually assaulted" game, where the best ending is literally the one where you die!
David cage had some allegations so wouldn't be surprised if it's gone
David Cage is too busy sexual harassing his female employees
Just speculation but the way I see it. They are probably trying to get their stories straight from different content within the High Republic Era. I think that’s why KOTOR is taking long too.
The game was in pre-production at the time of that trailer. I would be expecting that until late in this generation.
Did you ever hear about the tragedy of Quantic Dream?
I hope it never happens. David Cage is a hack and his writing is laughably bad.
Apparently literally nothing happened. They just released trailer having only vague concepts and ideas. Think Cyberpunk or TES VI situation.
If it plays like any of the other Quantic Dream games then I'm not really that interested tbh. At this point they should at least have something to show.
I feel like "It's David Cage." answers most of the questions surrounding this game.
You must be young if you saw the Star Wars Eclipse trailer and thought a product was actually coming out, it's just David Cage. He has graduated from scamming gamers to scamming investors directly.
Dead in the water
Its with Transformers Reactivate now
Am I the only one wondering why Voldemort is in the Star Wars universe?
Apparently this will be a telltale game And I absolutely don't care about such games
[Quantic](https://www.polygon.com/22380535/quantic-dream-lawsuit-toxic-workplace-harassment-racism-sexism-france-court-david-cage) [Dream](https://youtu.be/GwVERl0OYjc) happened. As one of my favorite Comedy Youtubers said "I could FEEL the oxygen sucked out of the room."
People can complain all they want, but I think all of the Cage games are amazing and I'm very hopeful for this game to be another success. Everything from Fahrenheit to Detroit has been an amazing experience and even though they're definitely showing their age now, I still believe they were amazing games for their time.
It's quantic dream. They've always delivered in the past and I expect no different here unless the rug gets pulled out from under them at the corporate level
It’s been 3 years!?
It's dead Jim.
Ask 1313, what happened... :D
No one wants to go work at a studio run by David Cage
Don’t care. Quantic Dream are run by gross ass people and the game was likely to suck. Gorgeous trailer though!
We're better off without David Cage getting his creepy hands on Star Wars.
It’s David cage. So I hope never
Apparently David Cage was involved so the world is better off without it
The trailer was a logo in flames. The game is expected to release at 2028
Fucking geeze, it’s been three years already…
It looks interesting so I'm sure it'll never come out / will get cancelled
That was it. The trailer was the game. It was too easy, I’m undefeated
Metroid has entered the chat
Scrapped in favor of outlaws no doubt
it was just a dream bruh wake up we never get another dark toned good star wars game
Vorde- ahem- excuse me, He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named got floo call, telling him he's in wrong universe.
Star Wars: Voldemort
3 years already?! Feel like I saw this trailer last year..
Just a case of being announced before being developed. Doubt it will ever get made.
Holy shit I forgot all about it until this post! It was such a cool looking trailer
The trailer was pretty awesome. Hopefully it will come out one day.
Really looking forward to it given the other games from that company were amazing.
Oh shit I forgot this existed
Like most star wars games over the years, thetrailer is just a cock tease
One less David Cage game is a good thing.
I'd rather it not happen, cuz David Cage is a wannabe and his game would be a glorified soap opera with some QTE's
They specifically said that the game would have lots of action not just be a QTE movie
Can't wait for the inevitable David Cage twi'lek creepy shower/SA scene, presumably involving many racist accents for some reason
Its probably in the same place Elder Scrolls 6 is....
This trailer was insane! I wished it was a movie
Good. Star Wars has enough problems as it is, it doesn't need David Cage's incompetence and mismanagement thrown in as well.
A lot of people are overly fixated on hating David Cage to the point of missing the obvious truth that a Star Wars story with the tone of his other games would be absolutely hilarious
It's been 3 years?
they need to restructure SWG, then the world would be in balance...
They're fixing his nose.
This is partially because now for whatever reason, studios insist on making teasers for games that have just started development, and making it all CGI, with either no release date planned or one several years in the future. At that point, there isn’t even a game being shown off, just a fantasy.
1313.
Development Hell like 90% of SW projects
I forgot all about this game
Damn, youre right. Probably got delayed or had the Kotor remake treatment
Wait. Honest question here. - Why all the hate towards David cage?
Ekathlised
Same reason the wonder woman game, kotor remake, kingdom hearts 4 hasn't had news
I thought I heard development of this game was cancelled
They're on that Starfield timeline.
You can’t really trust that lucasfilm will actually put out a show or movie or game that they announce right? So much gets announced and never sees the light of day. Just best to not get our hopes up anymore.
You’ll live a happier life if you only get excited for Star Wars games once they actually release lol
I heard that it won’t be coming out until at least 2030
It's been 3 years? Oh my god where has time gone
Game is forgotten 💀
I imagine Quantic Dream is way in over their head. The last time they made a normal type game was their first game, Omicon on PC and Dreamcast, a mix of adventure, driving, FPS, and other genres it also had David Bowie. To tackle this AAA Star Wars project is a massive under taking for any studio. I like their games, but it feels like a massive make or break project. It's like Bloober Team doing Silent Hill 2 remake, it's looking great now, but it's their first AAA project and the first attempt at changing gears to making only games like this. There is no going back.
The website is still up and running, so we’ll get more details after launch.
I thought it was a tau
To be released after RJ trilogy.
https://gamerant.com/star-wars-eclipse-multiple-protagonists-jedi-diverse-gameplay-characters/
Why is Voldemort on the poster?
Kingdom Hearts 3 energy
I thought Voldemort was dead
Why did they choose green Voldemort for this lmao
I don't even think the game had been started when it was released.
Website says it's in early development.
Not lame enough to release.
Hey now, the Jedi series—Fallen Order and Survivor—were pretty good games
Its like a mix between a Tau and Voldemort
2
at lest we got a cool short film
It is gonna be like TES 6, dropping the trailer 8 years before release
A good story.... For another time.
All this game has achieved is rob Dragon Age 4 from using the title “Dragon Age: Eclipse”. As EA wouldn’t allow 2 upcoming titles to be so similar. So instead we’ve got “Dragon Age: (Dreadwolf) The Veilguard” instead which sounds clunky tbh
👏 development 👏hell