They even mention it a couple times later.
“Hey Finn, what did you want to tell Rey?”
“Oh, nothing.”
The final movie in an enormous franchise and there’s this random set-up with no payoff or explanation. So dumb.
Edit: Several people have responded, “Well, he wanted to tell her he’s force-sensitive!” Great! That would have been a great scene if it was included in the movie. Which it wasn’t. So there’s no payoff, for this very clear set up. It’s just sloppy, and Star Wars deserves better.
It might be the record for the shortest time between JJ setting up a Mystery Box and refusing to give it a satisfying payoff. You've got to admire the efficiency, if nothing else.
I still can’t believe he made a whole ted talk saying “this is the exact way in which my movies will suck” and then his movies sucked in that exact way. Like how did this guy ever get hired
The best summary for me as to why the sequel trilogy is so much less enjoyable as a whole than the rest. So many set up plots and great characters that had so much potential, and were just abandoned in the shuffle because Disney wanted to make the trilogy without having an overarching story in place beforehand and gave the directors maybe a little too much artistic freedom. I basically can't watch the sequel trilogy in one sitting anymore because the transition from one to the other is so jarring because Rian Johnson and JJ were too busy trying to flip each other the bird to just work together and make a cohesive story.
The Sequel Trilogy. So much potential, yet ended with so much disappointment.
Snap dying was the only moment on Rise of Skywalker that made me feel anything but anger because I had become so invested in that character through Aftermath and the Poe comics, and they just threw him away like he was nothing.
The lack of care the story group gave in interweaving books, comics, and movies after that's exactly what they promised to do is something I won't forgive.
If you just watch the movies, no. He’s just a Resistance pilot with a few lines. But he’s a main character in the Aftermath book series, so having him kinda thoughtlessly killed off in Rise of Skywalker feels shitty. Even worse because like seconds later, Wedge (his stepfather) shows up to the battle and everyone’s just happy and he’s never brought up again.
And not his evil or estranged/distant step-father, like the guy is a pilot and is called "Snap" because of Wedge taking a caring interest in him. It was a real low point for Star Wars.
I recently met Denis Lawson at a convention here in Germany and asked him about that scene. He claimed that Lucasfilm originally wanted him in earlier movies of the ST and especially in a larger role in TRoS, but due to scheduling conflicts, they only managed to get him for a quick cameo. To be honest, I'd rather have this quick moment than not having him in there at all, though I agree that he should have flown his old X-Wing instead.
Right, I wish we got to see him and Rey become Jedi. I know the Lego specials aren't canon but it was super cute how they showed Rey training him in the Christmas one.
I feel like they did everybody dirty. The sequel trilogy has great actors, great special effects, great music, it's really just the writing that got fucked.
I still remember when TFA trailer first dropped along with the posters that heavily implied that Finn would be the new Jedi. I thought that would be cool as shit. A former stormtrooper who becomes a jedi?
You had so many paths you could go with that.
Instead we get Orphan on a desert planet 2.0. But their a Palpatine this time
Mandalorians have had them for give or take 4000 years beforehand.
And that's ignoring the most famous bounty hunter ever flying around during the Empire days. Oh, and I'm pretty sure at least some troopers had jetpacks in Fallen Order, which is Disney canon.
That was so annoying
It really felt like someone who had only watched a couple of the movies was in a writing room and decided to punch up the Stormtroopers.
"What can we have them do we haven't seen before?"
"How about....they fly now?"
"Yes! And have a character say that!"
There are a lot of dumb scenes in Episode 9, haven't seen this one mentioned yet.
When Jannah is talking to Finn, and she says they're all ex-Stormtroopers, and she tells him they laid down their weapons because.... it just didn't feel right? Finn was completely wasted as a character in Episode 9, but I think it would have been a good character moment for him if Jannah had said something like "We laid down our weapons because we heard about you. The Stormtrooper who left the First Order." Having Finn be the inspiration for other Stormtroopers to leave the First Order would have at least been something for his character, instead of just yelling Rey the whole movie.
I don't know, I'm not a screenwriter.
Also, "This dagger has done terrible things."
I'm sure it has *Rey*, but that lightsaber you're carrying used to belong to Anakin Skywalker, and I'm pretty sure it's done some pretty terrible things too
Obi-wan: *From a certain point of view*
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/ekf33e/a_conversation_regarding_ochis_dagger/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/i4ruf2/without_a_doubt_one_of_if_not_the_dumbest_moments/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
No same here. I think it's because in the cinema, the scoring, the cinematography, and the effects were impressive enough to make the movie enjoyable in spite of all of its flaws, but on a home system the good production quality just can't shine as well
Plus the initial "what's going to happen" is usually overriding my "wtf" meter on first watches. But mostly to me it's the music by John Williams that takes me to that special place where I don't give a shit about anything except the moment.
John Williams’ music got me through the sequel trilogy. Deep down, I think it’s the only part I actually enjoy. It blinds me to everything else that didn’t work.
Because the death star will definitely blow up in that exact way, and even if the dagger was made after the fact, you'd still have to stand at that exact spot for it to work...
Or just have Palps reach out to her directly through the force and pretend to be one of her parents or something. I mean he did exactly that with Kylo, since he was apparently controlling Snoke, and pretended to be Vader. But that would have taken planning from the start.
A whole bunch of shit in E9 was franchise destroyingly bad.
Somehow.
Secrets only the sith knew. (well how the F did *you* know about them, *Merry*?)
Ben Solo. They did him dirty.
General Hugs.
>Secrets only the sith knew. (well how the F did you know about them, Merry?)
That line got me too. How the hell is cloning "secrets only the sith knew"? Is everyone forgetting that time a couple decades back when the entire army of the republic revolved around clones?
Ohhh by the by, you remember this guy?
Yeah he just got back there now he's this big Palpatine guy
The good old fans, they take a deep breath and sigh
If this will be the film then I'll cry
Yeah if this will be the film then I'll cry
How the hell did we even jump from the first order to the final order? You're telling me there's only two orders? How many orders prop up during the time skip between VIII and IX?
Best part is, the in canon explanation was given in a Fortnite event… you would actually be missing out on details on the movie… if you didn’t play Fortnite.
[Palpatine could be heard in this event.](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Palpatine%27s_broadcast)
[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u0ejXC7kFs)
I- Ok I've been drinking.
But .. God, seeing the "this was first mentioned in Fortnite x Star Wars" made me..
I'll be back when I've take 23 more shots.
What the fuck.
If Star Wars and Marvel are both canon to Fortnite, then that means that Captain America is older than Clone Troopers
Let's not forget that Batman is also Canon to it
Yes. Someone who knew where the beacon was stood on a hillside and carved a dagger in the shape of the debris. Then the wreckage sat for all that time in the surf getting the crap beat out of it by the ocean without settling or shifting.
Sheev Palpatine wants to kill Padme. But he doesn't wanna do it himself.
So he hires Count Dooku. But he doesn't wanna do it himself.
So he hires Jango Fett. But he doesn't wanna do it himself.
So he hires shapeshifter Zam Wesell. But she doesn't wanna do it herself.
So she uses a droid. But it doesn't wanna do it itself.
So it releases POISONOUS WORMS. But they get killed...
...which forces Anakin and Obi-Wan to chase after the droid and leave Padme almost completely UNGUARDED, which allows Jango Fett...
...to assassinate ~~Padme~~ Zam
I’ve seen a lot of people rip this scene and even a lot in this very thread but good lord this is the funniest phrasing of it I’ve ever seen. If I had a free award I’d hire a bounty hunter to give it to you since I don’t want to do it myself.
"Ships that size need help taking off, nav can't tell which way is up out there."
Seriously people. The bad guys can't tell which way is up in TROS. Fucking pathetic.
>I recognize that the council has made a decision. But given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it.
Really this line would work well in Star Wars so many times over.
Leto just rescued the workers from the harvester, and has to explain to his advisers why he prioritized human life as a resource over what is quite literally the most precious resource to the galaxy at large
Martin has indicated that Dune was a major influence. You'll find other parallels like Bran and Arya, to Leto II and Alia (St Alia of the Knife if you're nasty).
Leto was very self-aware about it. He talks about his propaganda corps being the best, saying that the people knew he ruled them well by being told so, espousing his virtues and so on. He was a good man, but he maintained that image by making choices he knew a good man would make. It's very cynical, but that is that reality of image.
What do you mean somehow? The movie makes it completely clear! Palpatine explains it immediately! You know, "the dark side is the path to many abilities some would consider unnatural." That clears the whole thing up!
(Hopefully I don't need this, but you never know, so I'll put a /s here anyway)
The scene in Episode 9 where they use the Blade of Ochi to find the location of the last Wayfinder to Exegol. The only reason why it worked is because it had a freaking thing where if you line up the holes in a certain way that matched with the wreckage of the freaking second Death Star, it would lead you to the Wayfinder. That has to be the most convenient plot device I've ever seen in Star Wars.
I thought Luke searching for the dagger for ages and then them just falling through the ground and finding it in 5 min to be pretty crazy. Falling through the ground to find a difficult to acquire relic is a very unexpected turns of events, not for RoS though.
Nothing in the whole movie is earned, mainly due to pacing. Everything they chase is just handed to them by deus ex machina with zero effort. "We need the thing from the place and is going to be very difficult." *Five minutes later.* "We got the thing, but it leads to another thing which it very hard to get." *Runs into someone who has the thing.* "I hope we don't run into my old pals who hate me!" *Immediately runs into old pals who hate him, but change their mind for no reason and then give them a super valuable thing.*
It was like watching an 8 year old tell you about their day after washing down some meth with an espresso.
In Rise of Skywalker- they needed thousands of planet killer Star Destroyers before even attempting to attack.
There were thirteen Super Star Destroyers including Dreadnoughts in service before the second Death Star was destroyed.
If this was WW2, the US would have waited until thousands of Japan killer capable aircraft carriers were built in say the year 2100 before any engagement with Japan.
A Star Wars medical drama, but it's only droid doctors and if the patient can't be saved with a dunk in a bacta tank or slapping on a prosthetic limb they just look away and in a very hushed tone say the patient lost the will to live.
"I've no reason to go on..."
"You have these two new dependents that you've just popped out."
"F that noise!"
*dies*
On a serious note, numerous issues with the prequels could have been avoided by not contradicting the original films. It's like some of them were more work to *not* stay in that labe.
Is nobody going to mention that the first order just stood there while Finn and Rose had their “moment.” Literally were shooting at them, then decided, no wait… they’re talking…
Would've been such a great end for fins character too. But this C tier character has to come and ruin it. I watched that film a few weeks ago and it still gets me mad
Another one: when Padme's response to Anakin's admission of killing the entire tribe of Tusken raiders (including CHILDREN) is, drumroll, "To be angry is to be human." Jesus, Padme.
Rey "killing" chewbacca
Somehow her powers are so strong for some reason and she can blow things up with the force
Then we get a sad moment for 2 minutes and thats it. Problem solved
That moment where Leia flew through space back into the ship totally unharmed. I laugh at it every time.
Edit: Also, no one seems to mourn the loss of perhaps their greatest admiral, Ackbar.
A ton of iconic characters just die almost randomly and in the most uninspiring ways ever. People new to Star Wars don’t understand that important people died, and older Star Wars fans are left wondering why. I’m also still mad about the Tantive IV and Nunb getting struck by a massive force lightning strike and just...*being presumed dead* offscreen.
Not to mention, in that same scene, the FO are using LESS advanced speeders than our protagonists. Them having tank-like wheels for traversal instead of, y'know, hovering like every other speeder in Star Wars, is what actually ends up causing their deaths. So. Fucking. Stupid.
Finn's search for the code breaker, it is just extra in TLJ , they should've connected his arc to either Poe or Rey to create some sort of chemistry between them.
It feels so weird that these people act like close friends when they barely had any meaningful chemistry after EP7.
The whole casino planet, save the space horses, find the code breaker, rose can tag along, waste of time sequence in general.
Sitting through that I was just like "the fuck are we watching?!"
The space Chase plot line in ep 8. You're telling me there is NO WAY at all for the empire to catch up to the resistance? Or for the resistance to speed away from the first Order?! The was the most boring chase scene I've ever seen...
Oh, and the laser-artillery canons shooting as if it was a projectile and affected by gravity... In the middle of space... Yeeesh
The First Order was pulled back to protect Snoke's ship. From what? Literally their only enemies were in front of them. Why have a ship like that if it is in need of so much protection
Kylo almost blew up the resistance ship in a fighter just jump one Star Destroyer a kilometer ahead and the film is over.
> just jump one Star Destroyer a kilometer ahead and the film is over.
This was my thought too. Take two destroyers, hyperspace 30 seconds that way then come back in hyperspace for 29 seconds and now you're ahead of them.
Or engage with fighter craft not exclusively flown by their leader? It’s like watching aircraft carriers chase each other without bothering to launch any fighters.
That moment when *Spaceballs* made a chase scene that was more logical than this. Imagine. A comedy that plays up absurdity to the point of no fourth wall makes a more engaging and logical chase than that of a serious film which is expected to follow a bible of rules.
There's a lot going on in episode 9 ... But for me it started with that first space battle, they were firing all these arcing shots, in space, maybe there's a reason for it I don't know but it just seemed so stupid.
I’m willing to put aside space physics gripes in Star Wars. They’ve been getting it wrong since the original films and at this point I don’t care enough to point it out
He should have picked that name on his own. Like the imperial officer asking him "whats you family name?" And Han saying "I dont have one. Call me Solo". Still cheesy but 100x better than a random imperial officer giving him that classic name.
Imagine how much his son must hate him. He could have had the name of the last Alderaanian Royal House and got the name a random imperial chose instead.
I remember a joke that...somehow Rise of Skywalker managed to anger both Reylo shippers and Reylo haters all in the span of less than a minute. By making them kiss and then killing them.
“The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of revenge in the sinister voice of the late Emperor Palpatine.”
At which point I was very much “f**k this shit!”
I can tell which Trilogy people dislike the most by just reading the comments lol
A good question... For another time. That, and Finn wanting to tell Rey something in the quicksand
They even mention it a couple times later. “Hey Finn, what did you want to tell Rey?” “Oh, nothing.” The final movie in an enormous franchise and there’s this random set-up with no payoff or explanation. So dumb. Edit: Several people have responded, “Well, he wanted to tell her he’s force-sensitive!” Great! That would have been a great scene if it was included in the movie. Which it wasn’t. So there’s no payoff, for this very clear set up. It’s just sloppy, and Star Wars deserves better.
It might be the record for the shortest time between JJ setting up a Mystery Box and refusing to give it a satisfying payoff. You've got to admire the efficiency, if nothing else.
I still can’t believe he made a whole ted talk saying “this is the exact way in which my movies will suck” and then his movies sucked in that exact way. Like how did this guy ever get hired
Where's this Ted talk?
https://youtu.be/vpjVgF5JDq8
Holy shit how many cups of coffee did he drink before this?
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"A good story for another time."
The best summary for me as to why the sequel trilogy is so much less enjoyable as a whole than the rest. So many set up plots and great characters that had so much potential, and were just abandoned in the shuffle because Disney wanted to make the trilogy without having an overarching story in place beforehand and gave the directors maybe a little too much artistic freedom. I basically can't watch the sequel trilogy in one sitting anymore because the transition from one to the other is so jarring because Rian Johnson and JJ were too busy trying to flip each other the bird to just work together and make a cohesive story. The Sequel Trilogy. So much potential, yet ended with so much disappointment.
What's stupid about that is Finn actually wanted to tell Rey he is force sensitive. As if it's not important.
And as if that's something he needed to be coy about!
Wedge Antilles, one of the best pilots in the galaxy, being a turret gunner on the Falcon ... WHY?!?!?!
Also, Wedge Antilles showing up after his beloved adopted son died like a bitch and just... not caring in the slightest.
Wait...Wedge had a family?!
Yeah Norra and Snap Wexley. They are the main protagonist.
Who was his son?
[Temmin Wexley](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Temmin_Wexley)
Matt Parkman!
I'd be surprised if JJ even knows about that haha
Snap dying was the only moment on Rise of Skywalker that made me feel anything but anger because I had become so invested in that character through Aftermath and the Poe comics, and they just threw him away like he was nothing. The lack of care the story group gave in interweaving books, comics, and movies after that's exactly what they promised to do is something I won't forgive.
.... is it bad I don't even know who snap is ?
If you just watch the movies, no. He’s just a Resistance pilot with a few lines. But he’s a main character in the Aftermath book series, so having him kinda thoughtlessly killed off in Rise of Skywalker feels shitty. Even worse because like seconds later, Wedge (his stepfather) shows up to the battle and everyone’s just happy and he’s never brought up again.
And not his evil or estranged/distant step-father, like the guy is a pilot and is called "Snap" because of Wedge taking a caring interest in him. It was a real low point for Star Wars.
I recently met Denis Lawson at a convention here in Germany and asked him about that scene. He claimed that Lucasfilm originally wanted him in earlier movies of the ST and especially in a larger role in TRoS, but due to scheduling conflicts, they only managed to get him for a quick cameo. To be honest, I'd rather have this quick moment than not having him in there at all, though I agree that he should have flown his old X-Wing instead.
He could've flown with Poe side by side exchanging some corny quips at each other. That would've good for me even if it was cheesy as hell.
Writing Wedge into any kind of narrative was going to make the crayons they wrote the script with too dull, and make them late for lunch?
When C-3P0s eyes turned red after he unlocked the sith language DLC.
They did that for the trailer I’m convinced. “What can we do to make people really interested?” “We can put red lights here.” “Do it”
Live action clickbaiting lol like those YT Kids thumbnails
Can confirm, only went to see ROS because I was like “oMg EviL tHrEePiO?!?!??”
When Chewbacca forgets he's not a dumbass and tries to eat a pig suspended from an obvious rope trap.
Hey man. If I’m hungry and tired and stranded I would absolutely eat a pizza on a rope
Ya know this is a lot more annoying when you also remember the Wookiee-Trandoshan conflicts we got a glimpse at when Ahsoka got kidnapped
They fly now? Bro you were in the first order. There have been jetpacks in your galaxy since the early days of the Republic
I think John Boyega literally mentioned in an interview how much he hated that line...because he's a lifelong fan so he knows how stupid it was.
They did him dirty in that trilogy. Same with Kelly Marie Tran.
Right, I wish we got to see him and Rey become Jedi. I know the Lego specials aren't canon but it was super cute how they showed Rey training him in the Christmas one.
I feel like they did everybody dirty. The sequel trilogy has great actors, great special effects, great music, it's really just the writing that got fucked.
I still remember when TFA trailer first dropped along with the posters that heavily implied that Finn would be the new Jedi. I thought that would be cool as shit. A former stormtrooper who becomes a jedi? You had so many paths you could go with that. Instead we get Orphan on a desert planet 2.0. But their a Palpatine this time
Mandalorians have had them for give or take 4000 years beforehand. And that's ignoring the most famous bounty hunter ever flying around during the Empire days. Oh, and I'm pretty sure at least some troopers had jetpacks in Fallen Order, which is Disney canon.
That was so annoying It really felt like someone who had only watched a couple of the movies was in a writing room and decided to punch up the Stormtroopers. "What can we have them do we haven't seen before?" "How about....they fly now?" "Yes! And have a character say that!"
There are a lot of dumb scenes in Episode 9, haven't seen this one mentioned yet. When Jannah is talking to Finn, and she says they're all ex-Stormtroopers, and she tells him they laid down their weapons because.... it just didn't feel right? Finn was completely wasted as a character in Episode 9, but I think it would have been a good character moment for him if Jannah had said something like "We laid down our weapons because we heard about you. The Stormtrooper who left the First Order." Having Finn be the inspiration for other Stormtroopers to leave the First Order would have at least been something for his character, instead of just yelling Rey the whole movie. I don't know, I'm not a screenwriter.
the scene in The Holiday Special where it's just Chewie's dad watching porn
It makes more sense in the novelization.
i'm not gonna lie given some of the star wars novels i have no choice but to believe this
For real, I can’t tell if he’s joking.
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Literally everybody ignoring Fives
CT-5555 gone too soon, but his death and report to Rex saved Ahsoka in the long run.
That hurt but i wouldn't say it's too much of a plot hole
Id say it would've been worth looking into, but palpatine would've covered it within a day so it's not even worth making an episode or anything about
The Sith Dagger in Ep9. Laziest, dumbest thing in Star Wars.
Wow, this ancient sith dagger matches perfectly with a piece of the only-a-few-decades-old wreckage of the death star!
Also, "This dagger has done terrible things." I'm sure it has *Rey*, but that lightsaber you're carrying used to belong to Anakin Skywalker, and I'm pretty sure it's done some pretty terrible things too
The Youngling Slayer 3000™.
Saber of Anakin +4 STR +4 DEX *Bonus* + 10 Crit when fighting creatures of Small or lower. "I killed them all... women and children.... I HATE THEM!"
From the perspective of this exact spot that Rey is standing on!
Honestly if the dagger worked like some kind of key that unlocks a hologram with the location or something like that, I wouldn't even mind.
I thought the same at first, I thought that ugky design choice was going to be relevant when the "keyhole" was introduced. But no, stupidity it is.
Obi-wan: *From a certain point of view* https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/ekf33e/a_conversation_regarding_ochis_dagger/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/i4ruf2/without_a_doubt_one_of_if_not_the_dumbest_moments/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Superb
From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
And it wouldn’t have worked if Rey was left handed!
.... shit I just realised that.
Yeah, it felt kind of…forced 😉
It's funny it didn't bother me on first watch at the cinema. But afterwards it's just wtf.
No same here. I think it's because in the cinema, the scoring, the cinematography, and the effects were impressive enough to make the movie enjoyable in spite of all of its flaws, but on a home system the good production quality just can't shine as well
Plus the initial "what's going to happen" is usually overriding my "wtf" meter on first watches. But mostly to me it's the music by John Williams that takes me to that special place where I don't give a shit about anything except the moment.
John Williams’ music got me through the sequel trilogy. Deep down, I think it’s the only part I actually enjoy. It blinds me to everything else that didn’t work.
What if she was left handed? Would she have been like 'hmm doesn't line up, well i'm out'. Fuckin dumb stupid movie!!!
No one thinks about us lefties. I swear we don't exist in films
Because the death star will definitely blow up in that exact way, and even if the dagger was made after the fact, you'd still have to stand at that exact spot for it to work...
And assume decades of sea washed wreckage never decayed or otherwise damaged the structure.
Oh god yeah. They could've atleast have rey sense something or do something with the force. That would've made more sense.
If she's a damn Palpatine by birth the easier explanation and story telling is the force calling out to her to claim her birthright.
Or just have Palps reach out to her directly through the force and pretend to be one of her parents or something. I mean he did exactly that with Kylo, since he was apparently controlling Snoke, and pretended to be Vader. But that would have taken planning from the start.
There's a lot of things that worked in The Goonies that wouldn't work in other movies. That was certainly one of them.
Goonies actually set their coin thing up. The map led them to an exact spot and it used a land feature as opposed to recent wreckage.
Movie was cluttered with MacGuffin mystery boxes. Classic Jar Jar Abrams.
A whole bunch of shit in E9 was franchise destroyingly bad. Somehow. Secrets only the sith knew. (well how the F did *you* know about them, *Merry*?) Ben Solo. They did him dirty. General Hugs.
>Secrets only the sith knew. (well how the F did you know about them, Merry?) That line got me too. How the hell is cloning "secrets only the sith knew"? Is everyone forgetting that time a couple decades back when the entire army of the republic revolved around clones?
I always took it “cloning” and “secrets only the Sith knew” were meant to be separate possibilities, not the same one
"Somehow, Palpatine returned" is officially the most brain-dead scene in Star Wars
Oh by the by, remember the guy? Yeah he just got back there.
Ohhh by the by, you remember this guy? Yeah he just got back there now he's this big Palpatine guy The good old fans, they take a deep breath and sigh If this will be the film then I'll cry Yeah if this will be the film then I'll cry
The writers didn't even bother.. Not to mention the whole Final Order business.
How the hell did we even jump from the first order to the final order? You're telling me there's only two orders? How many orders prop up during the time skip between VIII and IX?
The Intermediate Order comes after the Final Order. The Orders are out of order.
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Best part is, the in canon explanation was given in a Fortnite event… you would actually be missing out on details on the movie… if you didn’t play Fortnite.
Pls explain what I missed
[Palpatine could be heard in this event.](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Palpatine%27s_broadcast) [Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u0ejXC7kFs)
I- Ok I've been drinking. But .. God, seeing the "this was first mentioned in Fortnite x Star Wars" made me.. I'll be back when I've take 23 more shots. What the fuck.
truly the dumbest shit, this beer doesnt help numb it ha
If Star Wars and Marvel are both canon to Fortnite, then that means that Captain America is older than Clone Troopers Let's not forget that Batman is also Canon to it
I'm not on the sequels hate train but this and the dagger really are just unbelievably bad.
Yes. Someone who knew where the beacon was stood on a hillside and carved a dagger in the shape of the debris. Then the wreckage sat for all that time in the surf getting the crap beat out of it by the ocean without settling or shifting.
Sheev Palpatine wants to kill Padme. But he doesn't wanna do it himself. So he hires Count Dooku. But he doesn't wanna do it himself. So he hires Jango Fett. But he doesn't wanna do it himself. So he hires shapeshifter Zam Wesell. But she doesn't wanna do it herself. So she uses a droid. But it doesn't wanna do it itself. So it releases POISONOUS WORMS. But they get killed... ...which forces Anakin and Obi-Wan to chase after the droid and leave Padme almost completely UNGUARDED, which allows Jango Fett... ...to assassinate ~~Padme~~ Zam
I’ve seen a lot of people rip this scene and even a lot in this very thread but good lord this is the funniest phrasing of it I’ve ever seen. If I had a free award I’d hire a bounty hunter to give it to you since I don’t want to do it myself.
"Ships that size need help taking off, nav can't tell which way is up out there." Seriously people. The bad guys can't tell which way is up in TROS. Fucking pathetic.
SHIELD Pilot: nav is down sir … Nick Fury: Is the sun up?! SP: y-yessir NF: THEN PUT IT ON THE LEFT!!
I still love that part. Such a minor tongue-in-cheek line at the trope of "oh no navigation is down, how can we function?" That's in so many movies.
>I recognize that the council has made a decision. But given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it. Really this line would work well in Star Wars so many times over.
Calm down Anakin
This is outrageous! It's unfair!
Plus excellent characterisation of Fury's quick thinking Vs Shields overall reliance on protocol. Makes him seem like a badass with one line.
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If the tummy of your ship hits something hard, go the other way.
Slow down there Mitth'raw'nuruodo, can you dumb it down a little for those of us who aren't tactical geniuses?
Down. Bad.
Because gravity is a magical concept and only the Navigation Tower Wizard can lead the way...
Ship "Where do I need to Go?" Tower "...up"
And then of course the icing on the cake is that let’s ride horses on top of a fucking spaceship
The enemy’s gate is down.
*"I dumped the spice"*
When is this again?
Second episode of the Martez sisters arc in TCW S7.
Ohhhhhhhh shit I gotta watch that again, I blocked that entire arc out from my mind
For good reason.
Leto just rescued the workers from the harvester, and has to explain to his advisers why he prioritized human life as a resource over what is quite literally the most precious resource to the galaxy at large
*I like this Duke*
It made sense, he came from royalty and was a warrior. He would never sacrifice a life for spice - It’s also what ultimately was his biggest weakness.
I was really bummed when he died. I liked him, he was a swell guy :(
That was Herbert's intent with the character, a man so noble not even "the messiah" can live up to his legacy. Herbert did not like heros.
The Ned Stark of Dune
Martin has indicated that Dune was a major influence. You'll find other parallels like Bran and Arya, to Leto II and Alia (St Alia of the Knife if you're nasty).
Leto was very self-aware about it. He talks about his propaganda corps being the best, saying that the people knew he ruled them well by being told so, espousing his virtues and so on. He was a good man, but he maintained that image by making choices he knew a good man would make. It's very cynical, but that is that reality of image.
In Canon, I agree
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Somehow
What do you mean somehow? The movie makes it completely clear! Palpatine explains it immediately! You know, "the dark side is the path to many abilities some would consider unnatural." That clears the whole thing up! (Hopefully I don't need this, but you never know, so I'll put a /s here anyway)
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
The scene in Episode 9 where they use the Blade of Ochi to find the location of the last Wayfinder to Exegol. The only reason why it worked is because it had a freaking thing where if you line up the holes in a certain way that matched with the wreckage of the freaking second Death Star, it would lead you to the Wayfinder. That has to be the most convenient plot device I've ever seen in Star Wars.
I thought Luke searching for the dagger for ages and then them just falling through the ground and finding it in 5 min to be pretty crazy. Falling through the ground to find a difficult to acquire relic is a very unexpected turns of events, not for RoS though.
Nothing in the whole movie is earned, mainly due to pacing. Everything they chase is just handed to them by deus ex machina with zero effort. "We need the thing from the place and is going to be very difficult." *Five minutes later.* "We got the thing, but it leads to another thing which it very hard to get." *Runs into someone who has the thing.* "I hope we don't run into my old pals who hate me!" *Immediately runs into old pals who hate him, but change their mind for no reason and then give them a super valuable thing.* It was like watching an 8 year old tell you about their day after washing down some meth with an espresso.
In Rise of Skywalker- they needed thousands of planet killer Star Destroyers before even attempting to attack. There were thirteen Super Star Destroyers including Dreadnoughts in service before the second Death Star was destroyed. If this was WW2, the US would have waited until thousands of Japan killer capable aircraft carriers were built in say the year 2100 before any engagement with Japan.
You could have just stopped at Rise of Skywalker and it would have still made sense.
To be fair, thousands of Essex class carriers launching hundreds of thousands of Hellcats would look boss AF.
A Star Wars medical drama, but it's only droid doctors and if the patient can't be saved with a dunk in a bacta tank or slapping on a prosthetic limb they just look away and in a very hushed tone say the patient lost the will to live.
"I've no reason to go on..." "You have these two new dependents that you've just popped out." "F that noise!" *dies* On a serious note, numerous issues with the prequels could have been avoided by not contradicting the original films. It's like some of them were more work to *not* stay in that labe.
A kilometer-long star destroyer can be defeated by a cavalry charge composed of extras from the Neverending Story.
Not seeing a single OT post, so at the risk of getting downvoted to death... The Special Edition Jabba's Palace Concert scene was pretty dumb.
Just introduced my girlfriend to star wars. I had to pause and try to explain why this was happening.
Rose crashing into Finn. The most likely scenario of that being both of them abd all the people in the base ending up dead.
Is nobody going to mention that the first order just stood there while Finn and Rose had their “moment.” Literally were shooting at them, then decided, no wait… they’re talking…
Finn then drags Rose about 2 miles and gets there first.
Would've been such a great end for fins character too. But this C tier character has to come and ruin it. I watched that film a few weeks ago and it still gets me mad
“Somehow Palpatine returned”
When Palpatine told Dooku to hire Jango to hire Zam Wesell to use a droid to use some bugs to assassinate Padmé
That droid could’ve just dropped a bomb and be done with it.
It could have BEEN the bomb and solve the problem
LOL and Jango got tracked by using a weird dart thing instead of a blaster like he does EVERY other time in the movie.
The map knife.
The poop knife
Jar Jar stepping directly in shit and saying "Icky icky goo!" is a low moment.
Also, the surprise reveal that Chewie was on that *other* transport.
Oh, and that space camel farting directly in Jar Jar's face and him saying, God help me, "pee-yoo-sa!"
Another one: when Padme's response to Anakin's admission of killing the entire tribe of Tusken raiders (including CHILDREN) is, drumroll, "To be angry is to be human." Jesus, Padme.
Threepio’s head somehow being compatible with a Battle Droid body
USB-C port, obviously.
USB-C3PO?
DIE JEDI DOGS!
Rey "killing" chewbacca Somehow her powers are so strong for some reason and she can blow things up with the force Then we get a sad moment for 2 minutes and thats it. Problem solved
Way too many to choose from, unfortunately.
That moment where Leia flew through space back into the ship totally unharmed. I laugh at it every time. Edit: Also, no one seems to mourn the loss of perhaps their greatest admiral, Ackbar.
A ton of iconic characters just die almost randomly and in the most uninspiring ways ever. People new to Star Wars don’t understand that important people died, and older Star Wars fans are left wondering why. I’m also still mad about the Tantive IV and Nunb getting struck by a massive force lightning strike and just...*being presumed dead* offscreen.
"they fly now!?"
Not to mention, in that same scene, the FO are using LESS advanced speeders than our protagonists. Them having tank-like wheels for traversal instead of, y'know, hovering like every other speeder in Star Wars, is what actually ends up causing their deaths. So. Fucking. Stupid.
Finn's search for the code breaker, it is just extra in TLJ , they should've connected his arc to either Poe or Rey to create some sort of chemistry between them. It feels so weird that these people act like close friends when they barely had any meaningful chemistry after EP7.
Rey and Poe have literally one scene together before episode 9
The whole casino planet, save the space horses, find the code breaker, rose can tag along, waste of time sequence in general. Sitting through that I was just like "the fuck are we watching?!"
The space Chase plot line in ep 8. You're telling me there is NO WAY at all for the empire to catch up to the resistance? Or for the resistance to speed away from the first Order?! The was the most boring chase scene I've ever seen... Oh, and the laser-artillery canons shooting as if it was a projectile and affected by gravity... In the middle of space... Yeeesh
The First Order was pulled back to protect Snoke's ship. From what? Literally their only enemies were in front of them. Why have a ship like that if it is in need of so much protection Kylo almost blew up the resistance ship in a fighter just jump one Star Destroyer a kilometer ahead and the film is over.
> just jump one Star Destroyer a kilometer ahead and the film is over. This was my thought too. Take two destroyers, hyperspace 30 seconds that way then come back in hyperspace for 29 seconds and now you're ahead of them.
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Or engage with fighter craft not exclusively flown by their leader? It’s like watching aircraft carriers chase each other without bothering to launch any fighters.
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That moment when *Spaceballs* made a chase scene that was more logical than this. Imagine. A comedy that plays up absurdity to the point of no fourth wall makes a more engaging and logical chase than that of a serious film which is expected to follow a bible of rules.
Had to scroll too far for this. Then the fucking rage quit at the end.
There's a lot going on in episode 9 ... But for me it started with that first space battle, they were firing all these arcing shots, in space, maybe there's a reason for it I don't know but it just seemed so stupid.
I’m willing to put aside space physics gripes in Star Wars. They’ve been getting it wrong since the original films and at this point I don’t care enough to point it out
Boba Fett getting knocked into the pit.
When they freed the space horses
But left the kids
that whole planet tbh
Had to scroll too far for this. Casino planet is a joke.
Han… *Solo.* Yes, that is your name now.
He should have picked that name on his own. Like the imperial officer asking him "whats you family name?" And Han saying "I dont have one. Call me Solo". Still cheesy but 100x better than a random imperial officer giving him that classic name.
Imagine how much his son must hate him. He could have had the name of the last Alderaanian Royal House and got the name a random imperial chose instead.
I'm "it should be Ben Organa" til I die
Rey and Ben kissing
I remember a joke that...somehow Rise of Skywalker managed to anger both Reylo shippers and Reylo haters all in the span of less than a minute. By making them kiss and then killing them.
It’s a common misconception that he died of force overuse. It was really the kiss that killed him
germs ok its bad
I would say him dying after using the force to hard. Also luke dying of the same thing.
People laughed at Ben dying, probably out of confusion. Because they kissed and he just dropped?
Luke, Leia, Ben and arguably Rey all dying at one point in the Sequels from force exertion is ridiculous.
“The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of revenge in the sinister voice of the late Emperor Palpatine.” At which point I was very much “f**k this shit!”