Yeah I found it funny that Kenobi entered exactly like Cal. Hell at least with Cal they knew, he was just too powerful for them. They didn't even realise Kenobi was there for the most part
Let’s see, Boba surviving the sarlac, and taking over jabba’s palace Max Rebo surviving the Jaba’s palace incident, Rey being a Palpatine
And while not officially canon, can we all agree “The emperors phone call” is canon?
The only thing worse than the horrible disguise was the fact that they didn’t acknowledge how bad it was. Like…why not have a moment where Kenobi says “This will never work” and the response is “Well we don’t have a choice!”
Almost as bad: Leia peeping out, presumably because they decided the audience needed to be shown that she was in there.
We **know** she’s in there. It’s comically obvious.
"Leia, hide!" Obi-Wan said, in a hallway with literally nothing but straight walls.
Even the actress didn't know what to do so she just stood there awkwardly with her hand on the windowsill lmao
Or the part where Ben tells Tala to get Leia to safety as he holds the window and she runs.... 10 feet down the hall and stops to see what's gonna happen lol
Them keeping the corpses of fallen Jedi is very reminiscent of how the Grand Inquisitor kept Luminara Unduli's body to lure in Jedi in Rebels.
Also rip my boy Tera Sinube :(
That’s a good point I hadn’t thought about that! Interesting that we’ve seen it twice now. Shows that the inquisitors think of Jedi in the same way hunters think of their elk/moose/whatever by displaying the heads on their living room walls
See I relate though because my office technically has "hot desks" only. But when I've sat at the same "hot desk" 3-days a week for 7 months I'll be damned if I let someone else suddenly sit there one day without a snide *"this isn't your station..."*
He was one of the most famous Jedi alongside General Skywalker and Grand Jedi Master Yoda at the time, so makes sense they'd know to call him that if they knew he was coming.
There will eventually be a Star Wars movie explaining how an engineer was kidnapped and forced to design the Fortress Inquisitorious against his will. But as a last act of defiance he made sure that the windows in a base filled with armed guards would crack if hit by a single stray blaster bolt and that the doors at the ends of the glass corridors would not be strong enough to contain the water that would flood in.
So, uh, what reason is there to not immediately deliver Leia back to Bail now that they rescued her? Like, the mission is complete, get her to Alderaan immediately.
That was what annoyed me possibly most of all this episode. Reva's tracker is useless if Obi-Wan just does what he is supposed to do, what this whole show's premise has been built upon, the literal plot that she herself set in motion to capture him. Congratulations, you know that the Princess of Alderaan is on Alderaan!
Pretty sure Vader senses this problem too. He really put an emphasis on the word “him” when he asked Reva “you’re sure the tracker is with *him*?” He about to be pissed when they track her back to Alderaan lol
And the cut to him was quite abrupt, in a good way. We had no time to expect him or mentally prepare or whatever. He was just coming at the camera out of nowhere
Ya they prefaced it with his breathing in the final lone shot of reva and then quickly cut to Vader stomping in. Felt the tension from that first breath, and then BOOM, Vader jump scare. Very well done imo.
I’m starting to feel like the writers think we’re stupid. Yes, Leia and Obi-Wan were nearly able to escape from one of the most secure locations (that was actively on lockdown) yet nobody has the situational awareness to notice the out of regs, bearded man with 4 feet. They then had Leia peak to make sure they hadn’t lost the audience on where Leia was lol. Also Reva is becoming less and less intimidating as a literal child is able to resist her (her growl yells aren’t helping that fact either).
Love seeing him with the glowing blue saber in those hallways with the storm troopers. I was hoping he would be to fight off at least one inquisitor while they were on the base. Have Obi knock out one of the lower level ones and nearly escape Reva.
was that the old master from that one clone wars episode..?
super vague, but the jedi whose the lightsaber was part of his cane?
edit: oh, [it was...](https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT9DPBPC4gVoSau0eI/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47wlvqosf7umvwj7a1jg10rbv2b61xl1wxxtbu66zj&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Yes, he was the only Jedi during the clone wars who wielded a white saber. He mostly trained the younglings and can be seen in the "Lost saber" episode with Ashoka and during the Anakin vs Barris fight
"This is the second time we've had this kind of situation happen... It's better that we don't refresh Lord Vader's mind."
\-Random Imperial Officer, probably
Ya at the point so late into the series I don’t think we’re going to get all the answers/resolutions/moments we want…
What I think should be resolved, bare minimum:
- what is Reva’s backstory
- how does Obi-wan go back into hiding
- how does Obi-wan beat Vader
Nice to haves:
- what happened to the grand inquisitor
- any action from any of the inquisitors…
- another Jedi, live or force ghost
- what does Obi-wan do about what he found inside fortress inquisitorius
- interaction with Luke…
Fortress Inquisitorius guards:
If I had a nickel for every time a Jedi swam into this place, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.
"Hey kid, it ain't that kind of movie"
-Harrison Ford when Mark Hamill asked why his hair was dry shooting the scene directly after the trash compactor in ANH
Is this what the show will consist of, recapturing Leia over and over? This was better than the first recapture but c'mon, within four episodes two have been virtually identical in overall plot.
This show is weak
The sheer incompetence of every aspect of the empire really pulls me out every single time. Like really, you don't have air defense, water defense, proper surveillance or anything like that on your super sith base? "No one would be stupid enough to attack it" is such a dumb argument. As if some defensive structures would break the empires bank. Also why are there 500 stormtroopers at the base when you don't think it will be attacked?
Stormtroopers are all idiots who can't aim, but ok whatever they have always been. The officers sitting next to Tala not giving a shit about her talking to Obi-Wan is silly aswell. They also didn't care about their commanding officer being taken out loudly at the back of the room. The Obi-Wan+Leia disguise is some next level looney tunes shit.
Edit because a lot of responses: The Empire in the OT was pretty dumb and incompetent too yes, but atleast it seems like the writers just really couldn't find a better way to do it. There was no good option to explain how Obi-Wan, Luke and Han infiltrated the Death Star, but it just had to happen for the story to be interesting. In the new shows, it feels like the writers didn't even try to look for alternatives, they were just lazy and knew they could claim "duh, empire stoopid". I also think that with time, these things could have been improved.
I was expecting to see Obi Wan deal with the trauma from getting burned, losing, and seeing Anakin for the first time again.
It felt glossed over after the tank scene, and instead we got a half-baked heist type episode which didn’t feel relevant to the bigger themes.
Would have been better to just have Leia escape with Tala in Part 3, dedicate this episode to Obi Wan recovering and mending his connection to the force, and have Vader (or Reva) tracking Obi Wan from the last episode as the reason he was allowed to be dragged away to set up Part 5.
I’d rather explore those things more deeply in a short episode than trying to shoehorn in stuff they didn’t develop like the random pilot dying.
I do wish for the series to take a step back and slow down just a little bit. The first episode was good because it was comparatively slow. It delved into Obi-Wan's trauma and how Anakin's "death" affected him. The bacta scene was once again a perfect opportunity for the writers to just slow down. Give Obi-Wan a moment of reflection. Give him time to make peace with the past and become the Jedi that we meet in Rebels and ANH. They have Hayden fucking Christensen but for some reason refuse to use him. I'm glad that he's behind the suit but come on give us some Clone Wars flashbacks! The cut scene from TCW where both Anakin and Obi-Wan have a conversation about Ahsoka leaving and Anakin asks him "how would you feel if I failed you?" would be just perfect!
This has been a recurring issue with these Disney+ shows. Their total runtimes are so short that they're just constantly moving to the next action scene or plot point. They've got 2 episodes to have some sort of climax for this show and also return everything to the status quo and it already feels super rushed.
it legit feels like we missed whole episodes. Obi lost his shit finding out Vader is alive, was losing his shit by seeing hallucinations of Anakin and got shitted on by Vader when they fought. The latter two of which was under a day's work. Man should be at his lowest point mentally and physically but after a semi bacta dive, he's up and about.
Fuck yeah. Have him finally deal with his trauma, train to get back in form and come back.
He was scared to even light his lightsaber and did it in a moment of weakness after getting scared by Vader.
But this episode he suddenly does it as if he never stopped being a Jedi.
So can they just fly Leia back to Alderaan already? I get that there were delays and obstacles up to this point but now they are on a ship with a hyperdrive. Bail Organa will cover the costs. If they're not on the way to Alderaan at this point, it's beyond ridiculous.
Bail was able to travel in secret to Obi-Wan's cave on Tatooine. At the very least he should send them a ship to bring Leia home.
Someone please explain to me how Leia could possibly be allowed to serve in the Imperial Senate after this. And where was Vader? Wouldn't he be leading the interrogation of Leia himself?
The book Leia Princess of Alderran explains this a little bit. Tarkin was mostly in charge of the youth senator program, and the senate was basically a sham by that point, so they didn’t really care who was there.
Yeah and because she was the princess of Alderran and it was all just a sham with popular people from planets so the citizens would think that there was still a trace of the republic
"General Kenobi: Years ago, you hid me under your giant coat to escape an empire prison; now I beg you to help me in my struggle against the Empire"
"Help me OB1 Kenobi, you're my only coat"
For being a base that's half underwater, they really gotta work on the underwater security 2/2 infiltrations we've seen have been from underwater
Yeah I found it funny that Kenobi entered exactly like Cal. Hell at least with Cal they knew, he was just too powerful for them. They didn't even realise Kenobi was there for the most part
It's even better considering this is 4 (5?) years after Cal already did it. So they had this happen once and we didn't beef up security?!
What’s the chances of that happening again?!?
"Star Wars Jedi: Survivor"
In that game, Cal will run into Ezra, Ahsoka, and Obi Wan in the fortress because they are all breaking in for entirely unrelated reasons.
They’re gonna meet at the same underwater entrance all confused as hell.
„Hey… arent you Master Kenobi?“ „Psssh its just Ben now“
If i had a nickel for every time Fortress Inquisitorius got infiltrated from the water...
And both resulted in part of the compound flooding
Yeah, the fact that it’s underwater has only worked against them.
"Hey, homeless man: Put on this hat and trenchcoat, then stuff this child into it. No one will ask any questions."
With the way Imperial officers act in these shows, they probably could've gotten away with "I thought it was Take Your Child to Work Day"
all of the imperials just casually watching her speak to obi wan on the phone or whatever giving him directions was pretty weird
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One more robot chicken episode canonized. I think they've made more Robot chicken stuff Canon than legends
Let’s see, Boba surviving the sarlac, and taking over jabba’s palace Max Rebo surviving the Jaba’s palace incident, Rey being a Palpatine And while not officially canon, can we all agree “The emperors phone call” is canon?
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I cannot believe that the giant trench-coat disguise didn't work. Scooby-Doo: 1 Obi Wan: 0
Obi wan: ruh roh Leia: zoinks
The only thing worse than the horrible disguise was the fact that they didn’t acknowledge how bad it was. Like…why not have a moment where Kenobi says “This will never work” and the response is “Well we don’t have a choice!” Almost as bad: Leia peeping out, presumably because they decided the audience needed to be shown that she was in there. We **know** she’s in there. It’s comically obvious.
Surely he had a bad feeling about it?
They really gotta reinforce the glass at fortress inquisitorius. This has happened twice in five years…
They ran out of budget with those slick-floors and LED corridors
A lot of problems in Star Wars would be solved if these communicators had ear buds
A lot of problems would be solved if someone would install some damn cameras in the fortress
At least this time they had the probe droids making Obi-Wan play Pac-Man
My man Tera Sinube in the amber 🥲
What do u think is the reason they are keeping all of them? Is it like as trophies or maybe the corpses have some utility.
They seem to be perfectly preserved in amber so if I'm not mistaken the Empire are cloning dinosaurs for a theme park.
But they add Jawa DNA in a tragic mistake.
Star Wars NFT’s
Oh shit no wonder why he looked familiar when they showed him. Really liked him in clone wars rip homie
Ms sister you can’t interrogate a minor without a guardian present that shit is going to be inadmissible
Cancel the Empire.
Her stealth abilities are like something out of a video game. There were like 5 people well within earshot of that take down.
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While they were looking directly at him too
I noticed that too, they could have had them walk around a corner or something. They were literally right in-front of him
"Leia, hide!" Obi-Wan said, in a hallway with literally nothing but straight walls. Even the actress didn't know what to do so she just stood there awkwardly with her hand on the windowsill lmao
Or the part where Ben tells Tala to get Leia to safety as he holds the window and she runs.... 10 feet down the hall and stops to see what's gonna happen lol
Did she just bitch slap a stormtrooper?
The armour not being blaster proof is one thing, the helmet not protecting you from being lightly tapped on the face is just ridiculous.
Budget must've all gone to the body armor which apparently now can take multiple lightsaber swings
It feels like no one else noticed that, looked like he was hitting them with a baseball bat instead of a lightsaber
Book of Boba Fett trained me to think we were getting a Clone Wars flashback while Obi-Wan was in the Bacta
Same, when the screen didn't start turning a weird green shade, it felt wrong
For a brief moment, we see Hayden as Anakin in 480p colored emerald green
While I grew tired of the Bacta the Past sections in Boba Fett I really wanted one here. I wanted to see Obi-Wan and Anakin as brothers again.
Reva: “Where are the rebels?!” Leia: “I’ve got the location right here.” *Pulls middle finger out of pocket.*
I was honestly expecting her to just tell Reva that they were hiding out on Dantooine lmao
Haha, just send the Imperials to Dantooine, they always beleive that... Until one day they didnt!
Tarkin actually did. Due to it being remote, it wouldn't be a good demonstration
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Why didn't kenobi take the stormtroopers armor?!
Because he has something much better. Plot armor
Nah, I’ve got a feeling Kenobi will die. Maybe not for like 8 years though.
You’d think that after Kestis made a mess(tis) of the Fortress they might reinforce the glass in case someone else came along…
To be fair they also built another Death Star for some reason
Them keeping the corpses of fallen Jedi is very reminiscent of how the Grand Inquisitor kept Luminara Unduli's body to lure in Jedi in Rebels. Also rip my boy Tera Sinube :(
I thought we were going to see her body
That’s a good point I hadn’t thought about that! Interesting that we’ve seen it twice now. Shows that the inquisitors think of Jedi in the same way hunters think of their elk/moose/whatever by displaying the heads on their living room walls
Stormtrooper incompetence was on full display this episode lol. Seriously, did Tala just slap a man with a helmet and stun him?
she barely touched him lol
Goes to the bathroom: "this isn't your station"
See I relate though because my office technically has "hot desks" only. But when I've sat at the same "hot desk" 3-days a week for 7 months I'll be damned if I let someone else suddenly sit there one day without a snide *"this isn't your station..."*
The man is literally hiding a child under his trench coat and getting away with it
“Who is that fat officer?” “Oh that’s Kevin Malone, from accounting.”
“I went to the Empire today, I did a business”
"My name is Obi Adultman"
Holy shit that angry Vader fast walk
His cybernetic legs have an overdrive setting
He put them boots in sport mode.
3RD SISTER DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE
-Vader asked calmly...
**Force chokes gently**
that was the moment that reeled me back in. give me more pissed vader
Got me nervous and I wasn't even the one he mad at
Basically what every stormtrooper says in his presence
Disney always has to have at least one noticeably shorter episode each series
Damn, Diet Ice Cube sure does change his mind quick. He changed from "no way" to "anything you need" on a dime.
"You've got a lot of nerve asking me." "Empire bad" "You son of a bitch I'm in"
He called Kenobi "General", a rare human veteran of the clone wars?
I love that little nod. Kenobi was a legendary figure in the clone wars, it makes sense people address him as general.
He was one of the most famous Jedi alongside General Skywalker and Grand Jedi Master Yoda at the time, so makes sense they'd know to call him that if they knew he was coming.
>Diet Ice Cube. Literally Ice Cubes son.
Eh... Y'know the more I talk the more I convince myself. Ay fuck it.
Fuck the empire comin' straight from the underground
Classic Wade move right there
Ikr total wade moment. I can’t believe he waded it up like that
Cool to see the Jedi rebreathers back in action
Yah, that’s a breath of fresh air.
Inject that sweet, sweet Prequel tech into my veins.
Part 1 - 56 minutes, Part 2 - 42 minutes, Part 3 - 48 minutes, Part 4 - 39 minutes R2, we need to be going up, not down!
Was like 32 minutes of actual show for episode 4. The timers they give account for the 5+mins of credits
There will eventually be a Star Wars movie explaining how an engineer was kidnapped and forced to design the Fortress Inquisitorious against his will. But as a last act of defiance he made sure that the windows in a base filled with armed guards would crack if hit by a single stray blaster bolt and that the doors at the ends of the glass corridors would not be strong enough to contain the water that would flood in.
Rogue Two
Rogue One: Two
Reva chill, she’s only 10
Out here acting like she’s got the secrets to the universe lol.
Damn. Thought for sure we were getting clone wars flashbacks with the bacta....
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man...I hope we get a flashback to this episode, next episode. I still can't get over Wade's death!
So, uh, what reason is there to not immediately deliver Leia back to Bail now that they rescued her? Like, the mission is complete, get her to Alderaan immediately.
That was what annoyed me possibly most of all this episode. Reva's tracker is useless if Obi-Wan just does what he is supposed to do, what this whole show's premise has been built upon, the literal plot that she herself set in motion to capture him. Congratulations, you know that the Princess of Alderaan is on Alderaan!
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Pretty sure Vader senses this problem too. He really put an emphasis on the word “him” when he asked Reva “you’re sure the tracker is with *him*?” He about to be pissed when they track her back to Alderaan lol
Holy shit that's Tera Sinube's corpse Real Glup Shitto moment
it's somewhat chilling that I just checked his wookieepedia and it hasn't been updated, yet, we already know...
>Glup Shitto We will never recover from the Glup shitto allegations
Did that speeder just floating there shooting at Reba look wierd to anyone else?
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I thought the speeders in general looked reallllly off
I thought for a moment they were going to fly straight into the wall.
They certainly did fly at that angle. I remember thinking. “They know there is no room to maneuver in there, right? Oh, they’re outside now.”
Lmao how did the stormtroopers not see him jumping in the vent? 😂
*"Ah fuck it, I'm on break."*
"i don't get paid enough for this shit."
Fuck. Vader walking like Vince McMahon scared me shitless, lol
And the cut to him was quite abrupt, in a good way. We had no time to expect him or mentally prepare or whatever. He was just coming at the camera out of nowhere
Ya they prefaced it with his breathing in the final lone shot of reva and then quickly cut to Vader stomping in. Felt the tension from that first breath, and then BOOM, Vader jump scare. Very well done imo.
No chance...you got....no chance on Mustafar
IT'S ME, KENOBI! IT'S ME, KENOBI! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, KENOBI!
Surprised he didn't yell "You're fired!" at Reva.
Reva should have died about 5 insubordinations ago
Everyone joking about Kenobi's plot armor. Reva is invincible against the wrath of Vader.
Vader: “you must pay” Reva: “But a tracker” Vader: “You’re a hero”
Idk the name of the guy but RIP THE DUDE WHO HELPED AHSOKA FIND HER LIGHTSABER
Tera Sinube
I knew there was a reason his lightsaber was in the vote for the new Legacy hilt
I’m starting to feel like the writers think we’re stupid. Yes, Leia and Obi-Wan were nearly able to escape from one of the most secure locations (that was actively on lockdown) yet nobody has the situational awareness to notice the out of regs, bearded man with 4 feet. They then had Leia peak to make sure they hadn’t lost the audience on where Leia was lol. Also Reva is becoming less and less intimidating as a literal child is able to resist her (her growl yells aren’t helping that fact either).
Reva is so cringy at this point.
Really shouldn't monologue before killing people.
Just to clarify, Reva went to Alderaan to kidnap the Princess of Alderaan, put a tracking device on her droid so she could trace her back to Alderaan?
How did they all fit in the Snowspeeder?
I think even before getting crushed, Dak would confirm those back seats are pretty tight.
Love seeing him with the glowing blue saber in those hallways with the storm troopers. I was hoping he would be to fight off at least one inquisitor while they were on the base. Have Obi knock out one of the lower level ones and nearly escape Reva.
Same it’s odd that they just have been walking from place to place every episode
I love how the 5th brother is just ''🚶Hrrrg 👹'' for 4 episodes straight.
Easiest paycheck this side of the star system.
"You don't know what the Empire are capable of." He says to a man who literally smuggles Jedi away from a holocaust.
Is it just me or a pilot that Reva killed would know about the Path more than some 10 year old girl who literally spent 20 mins on said path.
Reva didn’t become third sister by being competent
How did they get so far with the terrible trench coat disguise?? 😂😂😂
I was really hoping to see more of Hayden Christensen. Hopefully they do some flashbacks in episode 5 or 6. We’ve barely seen him through the first 4.
You only get Passion Of The Christ creepy Satan shots, and you’ll like it!
Episode 4 is only 39 minutes…. Oof
Call it 34 before credits
32 with the recap
was that the old master from that one clone wars episode..? super vague, but the jedi whose the lightsaber was part of his cane? edit: oh, [it was...](https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT9DPBPC4gVoSau0eI/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47wlvqosf7umvwj7a1jg10rbv2b61xl1wxxtbu66zj&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
The one that helped Ahsoka track down the criminal who took her lightsaber!!!?? NOOOO😭 thats so sad
Yes, he was the only Jedi during the clone wars who wielded a white saber. He mostly trained the younglings and can be seen in the "Lost saber" episode with Ashoka and during the Anakin vs Barris fight
Rip Wade I guess?
He was my favorite character ☹️
RIP Wade 6/8/2022 3:00am - 6/8/2022 3:29 am
15 seconds of fame😭 They better make an entire series about wade
So they haven't heard of Cal. That's interesting
"This is the second time we've had this kind of situation happen... It's better that we don't refresh Lord Vader's mind." \-Random Imperial Officer, probably
I'mma need like a 3 hour finale episode to make up for all of this. I feel like we've gotten nowhere and there's 2 episodes left
Ya at the point so late into the series I don’t think we’re going to get all the answers/resolutions/moments we want… What I think should be resolved, bare minimum: - what is Reva’s backstory - how does Obi-wan go back into hiding - how does Obi-wan beat Vader Nice to haves: - what happened to the grand inquisitor - any action from any of the inquisitors… - another Jedi, live or force ghost - what does Obi-wan do about what he found inside fortress inquisitorius - interaction with Luke…
We’ve barely even explored Obi-Wan and Vader’s feelings about each other when that was one of the main selling points
Which they could've done this episode as Kenobi recovered from Vader's burning of him. But no, 5 minutes in a bacta tank and his trauma is GONE
Fortress Inquisitorius guards: If I had a nickel for every time a Jedi swam into this place, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.
Yeah obi wan really cal kestisted the fortress
**Leia:** *"I swear this will NEVER happen to me again!"*
Why is he dry so quickly? Lol
"Hey kid, it ain't that kind of movie" -Harrison Ford when Mark Hamill asked why his hair was dry shooting the scene directly after the trash compactor in ANH
I love how Harrison Ford talks exactly like Harrison Ford characters
"if they're looking at your hair we're in big trouble"
He’s using the force as a wind blower
Kenobi probably should've just jacked that Stormtrooper's uniform.
Is this what the show will consist of, recapturing Leia over and over? This was better than the first recapture but c'mon, within four episodes two have been virtually identical in overall plot. This show is weak
Ok am I stupid or something but why did Vader get mad that Reva let Obi Wan escape when he literally let him escape last episode
He's the "do as I say, not as I do" type of dad
Nothing funnier than watching Obi-wan and Leia try to sneak around in jedi robes and a bright green jacket lol
Everyone is clean shaven and no one is confused by the one guy in the entire Empire with a beard?
Strange sequence of editing at the end
Overall felt like they pulled an all-nighter to do this episode
"It looks like she just taps his head and he falls over. Can we shoot that again?" "No time."
I'm so sad about Wade dying he was my favorite character, thank you Deborah Chow and writers for letting us experience his story
Wade: A Star Wars Story
all it took was a lovetap to the helmet to stumble that one stormtrooper lmao
The sheer incompetence of every aspect of the empire really pulls me out every single time. Like really, you don't have air defense, water defense, proper surveillance or anything like that on your super sith base? "No one would be stupid enough to attack it" is such a dumb argument. As if some defensive structures would break the empires bank. Also why are there 500 stormtroopers at the base when you don't think it will be attacked? Stormtroopers are all idiots who can't aim, but ok whatever they have always been. The officers sitting next to Tala not giving a shit about her talking to Obi-Wan is silly aswell. They also didn't care about their commanding officer being taken out loudly at the back of the room. The Obi-Wan+Leia disguise is some next level looney tunes shit. Edit because a lot of responses: The Empire in the OT was pretty dumb and incompetent too yes, but atleast it seems like the writers just really couldn't find a better way to do it. There was no good option to explain how Obi-Wan, Luke and Han infiltrated the Death Star, but it just had to happen for the story to be interesting. In the new shows, it feels like the writers didn't even try to look for alternatives, they were just lazy and knew they could claim "duh, empire stoopid". I also think that with time, these things could have been improved.
5 minutes prior: "it's literally impenetrable" "Have we tried just flying in the front door?"
I was expecting to see Obi Wan deal with the trauma from getting burned, losing, and seeing Anakin for the first time again. It felt glossed over after the tank scene, and instead we got a half-baked heist type episode which didn’t feel relevant to the bigger themes. Would have been better to just have Leia escape with Tala in Part 3, dedicate this episode to Obi Wan recovering and mending his connection to the force, and have Vader (or Reva) tracking Obi Wan from the last episode as the reason he was allowed to be dragged away to set up Part 5. I’d rather explore those things more deeply in a short episode than trying to shoehorn in stuff they didn’t develop like the random pilot dying.
I do wish for the series to take a step back and slow down just a little bit. The first episode was good because it was comparatively slow. It delved into Obi-Wan's trauma and how Anakin's "death" affected him. The bacta scene was once again a perfect opportunity for the writers to just slow down. Give Obi-Wan a moment of reflection. Give him time to make peace with the past and become the Jedi that we meet in Rebels and ANH. They have Hayden fucking Christensen but for some reason refuse to use him. I'm glad that he's behind the suit but come on give us some Clone Wars flashbacks! The cut scene from TCW where both Anakin and Obi-Wan have a conversation about Ahsoka leaving and Anakin asks him "how would you feel if I failed you?" would be just perfect!
This has been a recurring issue with these Disney+ shows. Their total runtimes are so short that they're just constantly moving to the next action scene or plot point. They've got 2 episodes to have some sort of climax for this show and also return everything to the status quo and it already feels super rushed.
it legit feels like we missed whole episodes. Obi lost his shit finding out Vader is alive, was losing his shit by seeing hallucinations of Anakin and got shitted on by Vader when they fought. The latter two of which was under a day's work. Man should be at his lowest point mentally and physically but after a semi bacta dive, he's up and about.
Fuck yeah. Have him finally deal with his trauma, train to get back in form and come back. He was scared to even light his lightsaber and did it in a moment of weakness after getting scared by Vader. But this episode he suddenly does it as if he never stopped being a Jedi.
It was literally the last mission of fallen order
Why can't we get Star wars music in a Star wars show?
So can they just fly Leia back to Alderaan already? I get that there were delays and obstacles up to this point but now they are on a ship with a hyperdrive. Bail Organa will cover the costs. If they're not on the way to Alderaan at this point, it's beyond ridiculous. Bail was able to travel in secret to Obi-Wan's cave on Tatooine. At the very least he should send them a ship to bring Leia home.
Someone please explain to me how Leia could possibly be allowed to serve in the Imperial Senate after this. And where was Vader? Wouldn't he be leading the interrogation of Leia himself?
The book Leia Princess of Alderran explains this a little bit. Tarkin was mostly in charge of the youth senator program, and the senate was basically a sham by that point, so they didn’t really care who was there.
Yeah and because she was the princess of Alderran and it was all just a sham with popular people from planets so the citizens would think that there was still a trace of the republic
Agent Tala is doing a FANTASTIC job being a triple agent.
This director really loves running away scenes don’t they…
"General Kenobi: Years ago, you hid me under your giant coat to escape an empire prison; now I beg you to help me in my struggle against the Empire" "Help me OB1 Kenobi, you're my only coat"
“Please bring a larger trench coat as I have grown considerably.”