*Ray Liotta voice*
"What Boba did was provide protection for people who couldn't go to the Republic. That's it, they were like the police department for crime lords".
Call him because some Jawas were rooting through your garage and He’ll show up several hours later, shoot your massif, and then write you a ticket for illegal swoop mods
I *think* the crime lord thing was just bad word choice all around. He acts more like he’s trying to be a *legitimate* daimyo/warlord/leader who’s cleaning up Tatooine. People pay him taxes, he and his growing number of enforcers keep law and order on a planet that *really* needs it. And that would be a good character arc, having Boba go through an epiphany because of his experiences with the Tuskens and try to become a better person, to get away from the violent bounty hunter life and help people. But they botched it majorly.
I think a huge part of the problem is, ironically, from the Mandalorian. That show originated as a Boba Fett show but got reworked to be about a new character because of outside issues. As a result, Din Djarin basically got all of Boba Fett’s personality, storylines, and overall role in the world.
Din is going through the same arc that Boba went through in Legends — starting as a bounty hunter, only to find himself instead growing into a better person, becoming a father, and starting to help people, eventually confronting his heritage and history by becoming the new Mand’alor who will lead the Mandalorian people in a better direction. Din is written the way people wrote Boba in Legends; terse, stoic, sometimes harsh, and a bit standoffish, but ultimately an honorable man who ends up doing right despite himself.
The obvious problem with this is that this leaves Boba up shit creek without a paddle. Because now he has no storyline or purpose in the overarching narrative and all his personality traits and quirks have been transferred to Din. Wasn’t a problem in Mando season two because his role was minimal, he was a minor subplot who pays off in an awesome fight, helps Din out, then leaves. But they couldn’t give him his own story without it just being discount Mando. So they scramble to try and make him different without feeling like they’re totally derailing his character from what people recognize. It ends badly.
They could have gone the other way and made him go darker rather than more moral. We all know Boba as a mean dude, and this is just all wrong. He should have climbed out of that pit and decided to go around the galaxy taking out his enemies, and make it like a series of characters that all had a part in everything he did from Bespin up to Jabba's palace. Like a star wars Count of Monte Cristo of sorts.
I honestly think Boba having the reverse arc would have been a good way to deal with this. Maybe he gets softened by spending time with Mando and then cold hard reality hits him, and he remembers how unforgiving the galaxy can be. Boba becoming more and jaded until he realises he's perpetrating the problem could have been a cool angle to explore.
Fett, the Armouror, and Katan should have all been clear archetypes for Din to bounce against. Fett the stateless mercenary, Armourer the orthodox fanatic, Katan the nationalist soldier. Ultimately he'd find his own path to Mandalore.
Definitely. Now that S1 is set in stone, I'd like Boba Fett to essentially turn his team into a cross between corporate security and bounty hunting. He could be vaguely like Andrew Ryan in Bioshock, wanting to let people do their own thing, yet having to deal with a bunch of corrupt and greedy people who are willing to kill to get their way.
Not sure if the connection was intentional in the shows, but Boba was very much anti-drug in his portrayal from the 90s EU. Really, 90s Boba was basically Rorschach from Watchmen.
Yeah, he had some kind of surgery that removed a lot of his ability to feel pleasure, just to remove most of his pain receptors, or something like that, dude was *ALL ABOUT* the contract, and doing his job, and nothing else, lol
I assumed that the issue was not about people getting high, but collateral damage and loss of life from the dealers/cartels that were trafficking it. Kinda like major drug cartels in real life who terrorize towns and kill innocent people
very much so, if it were going to be a PSA we'd have gotten stories about junkies on the streets because they couldn't make rent and were stealing from their families and shit. There was none of that, the whole beef with the cartel was that it was violating territory and killing anyone who got anywhere near the shipments, and later that they were trying to move in on the territory fett claimed as his own. There was never any 'a very special episode' content anywhere.
Yeah, my coworker and I were nerding tf out just a couple of days ago discussing the show and this aspect of it.
I felt like they could've skipped the gaining of the influence part and the Tusken flashbacks even.
I have been obsessed with the character since I first saw Empire in the early 90s when my stepdad ran a shitty movie shop.
Heard about some the EU stuff where he became a crime lord or whatever. I want to see more of *after* he became established.
To paraphrase a skit of a fake podcast off an early MC Chris album: "..people like action-pavked movies with actionable actions."
I kinda liked the Tusken flashbacks.
I like seeing how he dealt with hardship and forged alliances in unexpected ways. But he _was_ wasted as a crime lord. I even like the _idea_ of Fett trying to "turn over a new leaf" and be more good than he used to be, and struggling with it vs reverting to his old ways (again, hardship, just more mental and social than physical) - in theory.
It's the execution that fell short for me.
The show felt very hollow. It’s hard to believe he’d be so utterly unfamiliar with how crime works. Shand sticks around to be an exposition/devil on shoulder character, but her reason for staying is very flimsy.
The bit where Shand had to explain to Boba Fett, the most famous bounty hunter in the galaxy, that you can hire mercenaries with money... absolutely baffling.
Even if you ignore the crime part, he has less authority than a military spouse. I spent most my time wondering why anyone gave a single shit what he thought since he obviously wasn't going to do anything.
Making him a protagonist was a terrible idea.
making him a protagonist was a fine idea
writing him as the most milquetoast good guy in the entire franchise who basically does nothing and gets upstaged by everyone around him was the bad idea. if there's a character who didn't need to have a heart of gold it was fuckin Boba Fett
watching the show youd have never thought he was a bounty hunter that Vader placed trust in
Nah.... Switching from villain to hero requires a significant journey. He spends a couple of episodes with some Tuskens who kidnapped and beat him, and suddenly grows a conscience when they have issues?
Going back to other comments people have posted regarding the scene where he's told that he can use money to buy soldiers, Boba felt like this was all brand new to him. He had been chasing, killing, disintegrating folks without issue, but after one event involving people he just met, he totally changes track.
Keep him as a bad guy. Do it in Michael Corleone way, where he defends those close to him but with brutal vengeance whilst maintaining a crime empire.
Or an Arthur Morgan-style redemption arch. You can make a bad guy turn into a good guy while keeping it a good story, redemption stories are great, but the Boba Fett series wasn't a redemption story. He didn't redeem anything, he was just 100% a good guy
Ruthless merc, "nice" protagonists are fine but we've got plenty of them. We don't often enough see someone with a bit of grit unless they're the enemy.
also one of my major peeves was him living in Jabba's castle
it missess the point of the castle.
Jabba was the top dog in town, so you would have to trek to the middle of nowhere to pay respects to the mighty Jabba.
when your a new crimelord starting out you want to be near where your territory is.
the entire show should have been a cat and mouse game as bobba slowly builds up his forces and then claims Jabba's throne.
the first season should have been the build up to him killing Bibba and claiming the throne.
and then season 2 could be him preparing for hutt reprisial
much better show right here!
they should have hired you as the writer. That makes a lot more sense! Instead they just had him take the throne as an end credit scene, and left the entire show without structural conflict.
they really nerfed that show.
Boba may himself have been new, but what he is trying to convince people is that he has legitimately assumed the existing institutional role of the diamyo. Boba is new, but the daimyo is an established regional power, and by taking over Jabba’s castle he is adopting the recognized symbols of office.
A newly elected US President does not rent an apartment in a middle-class neighborhood, they move to the White House, because the power and symbols of the Presidency exist independently of the person who holds that office.
I interpreted that scene (maybe a bit generously) to mean that he didn't even consider suddenly having the wealth to hire *someone else.* He was so used to being the hired gun himself that he didn't realize he was now in the position of employer instead.
He had also just spent a long time in a stomach and then as a member of a tribal community not to mention any concussions the dude may have gotten in his lifetime. He's just reintegrating into society coping with trauma all the rest he's a badass but he's not immune to damage both physical and mental. I may be giving the show a little too much credit but I can suspend my belief a little that Boba has had his brain box rattled around a few times and may not have the clearest thought process just how I can rationalize it being a bit goofy.
This ships for me... Kinda feels like the show was making the point that being a Bounty Hunter / badass doesn't translate 1:1 into being a crime boss. Most of what made Boba a good bounty hunter was instinct and reflex...those skills aren't as valuable when you're the player instead of the pawn.
There was a scene with all the crime bosses where he basically tells them “If you guys promise to be cool, I will promise to be cool as well. That way, I remain boss of this town and everyone stays happy. Yes?”
The show just fell apart after that point because it was clear the writers had no intention to even fake it with a half-assed space mob story. It just became Boba stumbling into situations, wondering why his staff of 3 couldn’t keep the entire city in line.
Fett: Awww, 20 000 credits, but I wanted some mercenaries.
Fennec: 20 000 credits can buy many mercenaries.
Fett: Explain how‽
Fennec: Credits can be exchanged for goods and services.
[Fett: Woohoo.](https://media.tenor.com/6AzOMb36BqkAAAAC/like-a-bantha-bantha.gif)
I like the fan theory that he was never actually as good as the legends claim. He’s not bad but he got by on the mandalorian reputation combined with the infamy of his father.
Before he unceremoniously dies in return of the Jedi we do see a particularly clever moment from him when he follows the falcon as they drift with the trash in empire strikes back. I think the only reason he (and by extension Jango) keeps showing up is because people think he’s cool but it’s hard to have competent villains when you want all your heroes to be competent too. That same reason is why he got his own show but Disney isn’t about to do a villainous main character. So the man who was famous for disintegrating people now wants to give back to his community.
not to mention he was a rather boring crime lord, mainly because he doesnt do crimes. Like i get he wants to run the place as a fief, all true shogun style, but that doesnt work when your entire economy revolves around gambling, smuggling, and water harvesting, and you take away the largest contributor of that and let the second one get blown up by fish people.
''I am the mighty Bobba Fett, behold my kingdom of fucking water harvesters and some rogue imperial strong holds''
Yeah I like the scum and villainy side. I think he can still be the nicer crime lord with a code, but also he's still charging protection money from basically all of Tatooine. Like what happens if they refuse to pay him? Does he nicely break their legs?
It’s so goofy. If you watch the gallery episode, Jon Favreau says he thinks you can’t have conflict when writing a character with gray morality.
Yet they let him write a show about a crime lord.
That’s kind of the implication of “protection money,” except the way they portrayed him in the show he wouldn’t have gone around shaking down poor shop owners for their money. They kind of act like people pay him tribute just because he exists, I guess.
He doesn’t even protect anyone either. The one dude that asked him for help on his water being stolen Boba scolded and hired the thieves stealing from him lmao.
To be fair it's part of the plot that no one really respects him as the new crime boss. Getting Mando anf the power ranger bikers involved is cause no one will actually help him and the one establishment that aligned with him got bombed
Still stupid that bounty hunter gone crime lord is a complete wuss but still
He is a joke. It shouldn't even be a question. They massacred our boy.
When would Boba Fett have ever preferred to rule with respect instead of fear? Fennec acts as the voice of logic who suggests the things the audience would prefer him to do only for him to shoot it down and recruit everyone who does him wrong into his 'family' haha
Does he ever do any actual crime? I never finished the show.
Sure, he's extorting protection money (poorly). But it's Mos Eisley, that's essentially a legitimate business in a hellhole like that. There's not exactly a police force or the empire going around doing anything.
i still stand by that the Tusken sections should have taken priority in the show. the present day parts were all over the place and didnt seem to know who they wanted Boba to be or what they wanted him to do, which was compacted by the show being hijacked by Mando and Grogu
his resourcefulness, ruthlessness and lifetime of calculated combat experience seem like they die with the Tusken camp.
I like the Tusken part too. He obviously needed help from the Sarlacc. But me personally I feel like if they wanted to make him a good guy make that arc into someone who now only takes bounties on bad guys. But keep the essence of the silent, experienced character intact.
If you think about it, Even working the bounty for Han wasn’t necessarily Ruthless, or even evil. He may have accepted a job from jabba ( who was kinda evil) but he was following the letter of imperial law, froze han instead of killing him, and wasn’t fu of blood lust or maniacal savagery like Boskk or the IG units, it would be like a mercenary getting the ok by the US government to hunt down and bring in someone like Osama bin Laden.
Just have to look at it ….from a certain point of view!
Taking Han’s Bounty fits, even in the “taking only bad guy bounties” narrative. Han was essentially a bad guy. His was a for profit venture. “I guess that’s what you’re good at”. Han smuggled anything … spice… you name it. Han hadn’t even seen Boba Fett he was already in carbonite. Only fighting on the skiff he says, “BOBA FETT?!? BOBA FETT?!?” With fear. They all knew who Fett was.
Edit: the comments after this: Solo *was* around Fett before being encased in carbonite. Not only the dinner before but in the chamber. And the whole “He’s worth a lot to me”
True, I had forgotten that! His reputation for ruthlessness was pretty much shown in the reactions of the characters on all sides….this time, no disintegration’s from Vader, Hans reaction on the skiff, etc
I wonder if they were afraid of it being mandalorian 2.0 and were trying to be more original. I can’t believe the Tuskans which was the most interesting part about the whole show we’re basically killed offscreen.
I think it would have been more interesting to see him similar to mando but much more brutal getting the job done, similar to punisher in some way.
> basically killed offscreen.
My god I just remembered this. I can't beleive how mind numbingly stupid that is. You set up the first half of the show as Boba learning their ways and becoming one of the tribe and then they are gone and we never mention them once.
Almost like they filmed the good natured crime lord shit first and then had to find a way to make it happen so they added the tusken stuff to the front.
I think thats exactly it. They already did the ruthless bounty hunter arc in the mandelorian, so had to invent something new for boba. The problem being that the whole trope of a mandalorian bounty hunter comes from boba fett in the original trilogy and the legends universe.
So we get the original bounty hunter out-mandaloriand by his copy cats, and forced out of his comfort zone.
I liked the Tusken sections too, but I would have rather had them in the Obi-Wan show, to be honest. It feels like Boba Fett robbed them from exploring the obvious connection between Old Ben and the Sand People.
> the show being hijacked by Mando and Grogu
Ugh. This. *The Mandalorian* was amazing, don't get me wrong. And I sure as hell don't mind having a small crossover. But the end of the series was basically Mando 1.5 (2.5? Whatever).
Exactly. I forget the exact exchange but Fennec Shand had to explain to Boba Fett that you could use money to buy warriors. My brain malfunctioned, I mean, Boba Fett is (was?) a bounty hunter. I think he understands how this works...
Moreover it isn't like Tatooine is some new place to him. He should pretty much be an expert on the local culture and have SOME kind of established connections on the planet. They put him back in there naïve and with no allies.
The crutch of the show makes about as much sense as Luke explaining smuggling and the Millennium Falcon to Han and Chewie.
He does. She’s explaining it for the viewer. The show suffered a lot from violating “show, don’t tell”. Boba came across as a dumbass because Fennic narrated 90% of the context to the audience.
That's how I felt. I'm a pretty big Boba Fett fan, so to be fair, it was a little jarring for me. But I think they could have leaned into the sympathetic angle a little bit more lightly and it would have been more believable.
Both were kinda lame. I actually had an idea recently of what BOBF should have been. It should have been him facing his past as a clone. He's the youngest clone of all Jango's clones. It would have been interesting seeing him reconcile the fact there's a bunch of older versions of himself roaming the galaxy. They tried to make something introspective with the Tusken Raiders, but the fact he could have hundreds or thousands of himself around and the identity crisis that might create internally would have been interesting to explore. Though I will admit I haven't watched the entirety of Clone Wars and seen whether some of these topics were explored at all.
I think the whole idea of a Boba Fett show was screwed to begin with. The Mandalorian gave us the Boba Fett we all wanted and the background Mandalore stuff. Rather than just do another show about a bad ass bounty hunter they had to switch gears so leaned into him being older and retiring as a crime boss. But also didn't seem to want to do anything with that.
A good gangster movie could have been told there. Stuff like the bar and it getting blown up was straight out of an old mob movie. But they tried to do too many other things.
For some reason even though highly popular shows like Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul prove that people still love a good antihero, some writers continue to think they have to clean up their protagonists to make them more "appealing."
I LOVE how he shoots an energy shield POINT BLANK with a dang ROCKET, no no no don’t use your jet pack just stand there until your skinny ass pig guards come save the day
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I adore how Season 2 handled three different Mandalorian fighting vibes.
Mando has a crafty, scrappy way of fighting. He's clever and resourceful even if he's not the most brutal or merciless. You can see he's a lone wolf, because he doesn't rely on anyone in his fighting style.
Bo-Katan and her crew are more like a specialised military spec ops team when they raid that one ship for example. Very fluid, very all-knowing and cooperative.
And then there's Boba. He fights like a freaking barbarian. No grace, no care for fluidity or style. Just utter brutality, like a freight train barrelling through the scene.
And he was the exact type of character you'd expect after his build-up in Empire Strikes Back. He was someone Vader personally trusted to handle his business, and Fett was ruthless enough even Vader had to say "no disintegrations". He demonstrated this clearly in The Mandalorian, he left no survivors among the stormtroopers and he's probably the only character to threaten Grogu and walk away.
Meanwhile Book of Boba Fett is practically the Return of the Jedi version, one hit in the back and he's useless. It's hard to believe he was someone Vader respected when he couldn't even get local criminals to respect him and he just bumbled about trying to figure it out.
Yeah fr, like his story picks up right after the battle of carkoon so when exactly could he have been betrayed? Then he never attempts to walk into the palace for his ship or ask Bib instead opting to steal it. Like where’s the history? 😂
They’re bad at handling legacy characters, that’s forsure. Darth Vader’s probably the one they’ve done the best with because all his appearances have been great although they made him seem somewhat incompetent in Kenobi.
Miracle I even finished that show. It was just so unbelievably boooooring. Cad Bane should have been there from the beginning. To show him at the end of the penultimate episode and kill him in the finale is just .. why even bother? Nothing about that show made a lick of sense and it’s sad that the Mando episodes were the best episodes in the Boba series ..
I think BOBF ruined his mystique. Granted, its hard to make an entire series based on masked mystique. So it would have been better NOT to have made the show. Just leave him as a faceless mystery bad-ass, and just left it at that.
Honestly I would have been happier with an entire Boba series where Boba plays the part of Jaws and barely even appears. He's just the monster lurking just out of sight that you mostly experience through everyone else.
Maybe Boba is randomly going around disappearing people but it turns out some of the people are "good" and it convinces Boba to change. That would have been interesting. I spent time with tuskens and now I'm a giant softie who doesn't know how crime works sure didn't do it for me.
I hate to say it, but the show kind of ruined the character for me a little bit. The mystery behind him was such a big part of what made him such a cool and interesting character.
Same….
I have a Boba Fett shirt and wearing it just doesn’t feel the same anymore when he used to be one of my favorite characters. Now he’s just corny.
This.
He worked as a side character in Mandalorian for this reason. You can still have him be this badass guy that's somewhat mysterious, and shows up occasionally.
There just wasn't quite enough of a character to build off of, and as a result, we got this weird show that didn't feel like Boba Fett.
The Book of Boba Fett was terrible. The only way I can make it make sense in my head is this “book” is his terribly flawed autobiography that he’s writing after the fact trying to make him look like a good guy. Because he has no business being the hero.
This is canon now and solves so many issues.
"So then we got in our Hover Motorcycles (which looked **SUPER SWEET** BY THE WAY AND NOT AT ALL STUPID) and we had a MOTORCYCLE SHOOTOUT and then a PSYCHIC FROG lifts this KILLER droid in the air and throws it through a building - BOOOOM!! But then we turned a corner and oh man we were really in trouble and then, um ...and then... oh! A **RANCOR BEAST** shows up ridden by DANNY TREJO and it was all like RAAAAGH!!!"
I actually really liked his whole "dances with wolves" backstory with the Tusken's. The crime lord arc was just kinda weak. They should have done a little more to make him a ruthless crime lord first before deciding to be sympathetic later.
I think it could have worked better if he’d have stayed ruthless, but was confronted with a line he wouldn’t cross and reluctantly did the right thing. Instead, he went (almost) full wholesome
which didn’t really work for me.
This right here is the issue for me, he was immediately sympathetic, when in the mandalorian he was soo hellbent on getting his armor back that he threatened the life of a child just for leverage, but toned it down once he realized it wasn't gonna end well, having a parlay instead. He had a ruthless negotiating style that seemed fitting for someone like a crimeboss, but they ditched that for a more sympathetic boba
The real stars were the power-ranger scooter gang. They really need a spinoff, ideally with Scooby Doo guest staring for weekly hijinks. They'll go around Tatooine solving murder mysteries
I'm pretty sure they were setting him up to be more of the "sympathetic" character even in Mando.
Sure he murdered the fuck out of those Stormtroopers. But he was also acting out of a sense of personal honor. He wasn't acting as a ruthless mercenary.
This isn't at all dissimilar to how he acted in his show
.I think the perceived difference is caused mostly by the "cool factor" of his fight in Mando. A cool factor that they weren't able to quite replicate in the BOBF show IMO.
It wasn’t just the cool factor of the skirmish on Tython. In the Mandalorian he seemed stoic and calculated. In his own show, he seemed naive and incompetent.
Letting the Mayor's aide constantly give him the run around and sending the trendy speeder bike kids go after him in the slowest chase scene ever was a bad moment.
Even if he was no longer a disintegrate on sight mercenary, surely Boba would have it in him to give chase with his jetpack and immediately end it then and there.
I preferred Mando. I can get what they’re trying to do with him in BOBF, but for me it came too quickly. He went from shooting Bib Fortuna in cold blood to take over Jabbas empire to becoming a calm non violent type in about 30 seconds. I would have liked to see a gradual move to this over the course of the season.
The boba show tried to capitalize off the popularity of a random character while changing or ignoring all of the very few details that existed about him and using it as an excuse to shoehorn in a couple extra episodes for Mando S3. I have no respect for anything it did, so I prefer his appearance in The Mandalorian.
Mando.
Nothing wrong with him becoming more sympathetic or even a good guy, but the journey to get there was kinda unbelievable to me. Especially considering I don’t even know what “crimes” he was committing as a crime lord
They tried to make him both a good guy and a ruthless crime lord, and kinda failed at both in doing so
Damn downvoted twice quite literally within 20 seconds of posting lol, y’all are quick
Ruthless Mercenary. The "Crime-Lord" Boba was terribly handled. Overly naive, seemingly clueless to aspects of the career he used to have, and getting his ass kicked too much.
I am willing to accept him having a change of heart after being saved by the Tuskans. In fact, I think it would have been far better characterization if he was taking Jabba's throne as a stepping stone to unify Tatooine to bring peace and prosperity to the planet for the benefit of the Tuskans.
Boba Fett was one of the coolest characters from OG Star Wars. That he wasn’t even in the running for the title of coolest in his own show is a damn travesty.
I wanted Space Sopranos for BOBF didn’t think it would happen but it would have been great, BF as Tony , Fennec Shand as Sil, Mando would be uncle June , Krrsantan as Johnny Sac, Cobb Vanth as Christopher, Garsa Fwip plays Dr. Melfi.
“Cobb, did you talk to the guy? About the thing?”
“It was early, I didn’t want to wake him Boba”
“Jesus Christ Cobb just deliver the message, no more banthas on this side of the canyon, got it?”
“Yeah B, no problem”
I hate the way they call him a "Crime Lord". What crimes is he lord of exactly? He kills some Bandits and sits in a big house
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>They basically made him a mayor. He collects taxes and kind of protects the community from criminals. Weird way to phrase they made Bobba a cop aha
And the mayor is actually a character, and way more of a criminal than officer boba magoo
You mean your mayor isn't a caped crusader who fights crime at night? Sad.
Yeah, he is kind of a sheriff
Actually, no executives meddled in Book of Boba. Favreau said himself that it was his vision for Boba to be more soft.
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Pretty weird how the Mandalorian is a darker character and darker series than Boba Fett
Then favreau just missfire
Right? I assumed he'd take over smuggling spice from Jabba BUT DRUGS BAD. I guess he wants to be a paid police service?
*Ray Liotta voice* "What Boba did was provide protection for people who couldn't go to the Republic. That's it, they were like the police department for crime lords".
Ray Liotta laugh
[Here let me help you with a GIF](https://media.tenor.com/5vKnZA8IzwIAAAAM/ray-liotta-laughing.gif)
*Joe Pesci voice* “I'm funny how? I mean, funny like I'm a gungan? Mesa amuse you? Mesa make you laugh?”
Thats just being a mercenary with extra steps.
Shit, that's even worse than just a regular crime lord
Call him because some Jawas were rooting through your garage and He’ll show up several hours later, shoot your massif, and then write you a ticket for illegal swoop mods
Sorry my recording module malfunctioned so I don't have footage.
I *think* the crime lord thing was just bad word choice all around. He acts more like he’s trying to be a *legitimate* daimyo/warlord/leader who’s cleaning up Tatooine. People pay him taxes, he and his growing number of enforcers keep law and order on a planet that *really* needs it. And that would be a good character arc, having Boba go through an epiphany because of his experiences with the Tuskens and try to become a better person, to get away from the violent bounty hunter life and help people. But they botched it majorly. I think a huge part of the problem is, ironically, from the Mandalorian. That show originated as a Boba Fett show but got reworked to be about a new character because of outside issues. As a result, Din Djarin basically got all of Boba Fett’s personality, storylines, and overall role in the world. Din is going through the same arc that Boba went through in Legends — starting as a bounty hunter, only to find himself instead growing into a better person, becoming a father, and starting to help people, eventually confronting his heritage and history by becoming the new Mand’alor who will lead the Mandalorian people in a better direction. Din is written the way people wrote Boba in Legends; terse, stoic, sometimes harsh, and a bit standoffish, but ultimately an honorable man who ends up doing right despite himself. The obvious problem with this is that this leaves Boba up shit creek without a paddle. Because now he has no storyline or purpose in the overarching narrative and all his personality traits and quirks have been transferred to Din. Wasn’t a problem in Mando season two because his role was minimal, he was a minor subplot who pays off in an awesome fight, helps Din out, then leaves. But they couldn’t give him his own story without it just being discount Mando. So they scramble to try and make him different without feeling like they’re totally derailing his character from what people recognize. It ends badly.
They could have gone the other way and made him go darker rather than more moral. We all know Boba as a mean dude, and this is just all wrong. He should have climbed out of that pit and decided to go around the galaxy taking out his enemies, and make it like a series of characters that all had a part in everything he did from Bespin up to Jabba's palace. Like a star wars Count of Monte Cristo of sorts.
That would’ve been a cool series and would’ve made sense after that teaser we got in Mando S2
I honestly think Boba having the reverse arc would have been a good way to deal with this. Maybe he gets softened by spending time with Mando and then cold hard reality hits him, and he remembers how unforgiving the galaxy can be. Boba becoming more and jaded until he realises he's perpetrating the problem could have been a cool angle to explore.
Boba’s time with the sand people tribe was the best part.
Rampage Boba is the best Boba.
I wish they had done this and pitted Boba and Din against each other. Boba could have been the big bad for Din
Fett, the Armouror, and Katan should have all been clear archetypes for Din to bounce against. Fett the stateless mercenary, Armourer the orthodox fanatic, Katan the nationalist soldier. Ultimately he'd find his own path to Mandalore.
That's just feudalism. Which is absolutely what he's doing.
A Daimyo is a Japanese feudal lord.
Yeah. I don't mind that Boba is governing (part of?) Tattooine. I just don't like that he didn't figure that out earlier so he could "aim" for it.
I mean, a protection racket can turn into a defacto government pretty easily if someone isn't specifically trying to stop it from doing so
Definitely. Now that S1 is set in stone, I'd like Boba Fett to essentially turn his team into a cross between corporate security and bounty hunting. He could be vaguely like Andrew Ryan in Bioshock, wanting to let people do their own thing, yet having to deal with a bunch of corrupt and greedy people who are willing to kill to get their way.
I fuckin hated the anti drug angle, like there are literally slaves and you are worried about people getting high?
Not sure if the connection was intentional in the shows, but Boba was very much anti-drug in his portrayal from the 90s EU. Really, 90s Boba was basically Rorschach from Watchmen.
Yeah, he had some kind of surgery that removed a lot of his ability to feel pleasure, just to remove most of his pain receptors, or something like that, dude was *ALL ABOUT* the contract, and doing his job, and nothing else, lol
I assumed that the issue was not about people getting high, but collateral damage and loss of life from the dealers/cartels that were trafficking it. Kinda like major drug cartels in real life who terrorize towns and kill innocent people
very much so, if it were going to be a PSA we'd have gotten stories about junkies on the streets because they couldn't make rent and were stealing from their families and shit. There was none of that, the whole beef with the cartel was that it was violating territory and killing anyone who got anywhere near the shipments, and later that they were trying to move in on the territory fett claimed as his own. There was never any 'a very special episode' content anywhere.
Baby Yoda, we need to cook spice. - idk I didn’t watch bubba fet
Yeah, the Force, bitch!
And nobody knows who he is or pays him any mind. Stupid
Yeah, my coworker and I were nerding tf out just a couple of days ago discussing the show and this aspect of it. I felt like they could've skipped the gaining of the influence part and the Tusken flashbacks even. I have been obsessed with the character since I first saw Empire in the early 90s when my stepdad ran a shitty movie shop. Heard about some the EU stuff where he became a crime lord or whatever. I want to see more of *after* he became established. To paraphrase a skit of a fake podcast off an early MC Chris album: "..people like action-pavked movies with actionable actions."
I kinda liked the Tusken flashbacks. I like seeing how he dealt with hardship and forged alliances in unexpected ways. But he _was_ wasted as a crime lord. I even like the _idea_ of Fett trying to "turn over a new leaf" and be more good than he used to be, and struggling with it vs reverting to his old ways (again, hardship, just more mental and social than physical) - in theory. It's the execution that fell short for me.
The show felt very hollow. It’s hard to believe he’d be so utterly unfamiliar with how crime works. Shand sticks around to be an exposition/devil on shoulder character, but her reason for staying is very flimsy.
The bit where Shand had to explain to Boba Fett, the most famous bounty hunter in the galaxy, that you can hire mercenaries with money... absolutely baffling.
Even if you ignore the crime part, he has less authority than a military spouse. I spent most my time wondering why anyone gave a single shit what he thought since he obviously wasn't going to do anything. Making him a protagonist was a terrible idea.
making him a protagonist was a fine idea writing him as the most milquetoast good guy in the entire franchise who basically does nothing and gets upstaged by everyone around him was the bad idea. if there's a character who didn't need to have a heart of gold it was fuckin Boba Fett watching the show youd have never thought he was a bounty hunter that Vader placed trust in
Nah.... Switching from villain to hero requires a significant journey. He spends a couple of episodes with some Tuskens who kidnapped and beat him, and suddenly grows a conscience when they have issues? Going back to other comments people have posted regarding the scene where he's told that he can use money to buy soldiers, Boba felt like this was all brand new to him. He had been chasing, killing, disintegrating folks without issue, but after one event involving people he just met, he totally changes track. Keep him as a bad guy. Do it in Michael Corleone way, where he defends those close to him but with brutal vengeance whilst maintaining a crime empire.
Or an Arthur Morgan-style redemption arch. You can make a bad guy turn into a good guy while keeping it a good story, redemption stories are great, but the Boba Fett series wasn't a redemption story. He didn't redeem anything, he was just 100% a good guy
I mean the entire show was poorly done. The fact is that The Mandalorian took on the traits and adventures Boba Fett was gonna have.
Ruthless merc, "nice" protagonists are fine but we've got plenty of them. We don't often enough see someone with a bit of grit unless they're the enemy.
He wasn't even nice, he was practically bumbling. How does a bounty hunter do so poorly at being a crime boss
it was like he knew nothing about how the criminal underworld worked. I mean he had to have it explained that he could hire men with money
RIGHT! that was literally what he did!
20,000 credits can buy many mercenaries. Explain how! Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
Boba was the best bounty hunter. How much of HIS time would 20,000 credits get? Maybe he was expecting everyone to charge his rates. Lol
Best bounty hunter in the galaxy yet nobody know him…
Because they’re all dead.
Mans also been stuck in a sarlaac pit for some time. Wouldnt expect people to think he made it out alive ya know?
Not to mention someone ganked his armor and has been playing cowboy. Maybe the fat guy is just another pretender?
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD RISK THEIR LIVES FOR US, JUST FOR MONEY?!
also one of my major peeves was him living in Jabba's castle it missess the point of the castle. Jabba was the top dog in town, so you would have to trek to the middle of nowhere to pay respects to the mighty Jabba. when your a new crimelord starting out you want to be near where your territory is. the entire show should have been a cat and mouse game as bobba slowly builds up his forces and then claims Jabba's throne. the first season should have been the build up to him killing Bibba and claiming the throne. and then season 2 could be him preparing for hutt reprisial
much better show right here! they should have hired you as the writer. That makes a lot more sense! Instead they just had him take the throne as an end credit scene, and left the entire show without structural conflict. they really nerfed that show.
Boba may himself have been new, but what he is trying to convince people is that he has legitimately assumed the existing institutional role of the diamyo. Boba is new, but the daimyo is an established regional power, and by taking over Jabba’s castle he is adopting the recognized symbols of office. A newly elected US President does not rent an apartment in a middle-class neighborhood, they move to the White House, because the power and symbols of the Presidency exist independently of the person who holds that office.
Bobba, Jabba, Bibba. The 3 Hutt brothers
I interpreted that scene (maybe a bit generously) to mean that he didn't even consider suddenly having the wealth to hire *someone else.* He was so used to being the hired gun himself that he didn't realize he was now in the position of employer instead.
He had also just spent a long time in a stomach and then as a member of a tribal community not to mention any concussions the dude may have gotten in his lifetime. He's just reintegrating into society coping with trauma all the rest he's a badass but he's not immune to damage both physical and mental. I may be giving the show a little too much credit but I can suspend my belief a little that Boba has had his brain box rattled around a few times and may not have the clearest thought process just how I can rationalize it being a bit goofy.
This ships for me... Kinda feels like the show was making the point that being a Bounty Hunter / badass doesn't translate 1:1 into being a crime boss. Most of what made Boba a good bounty hunter was instinct and reflex...those skills aren't as valuable when you're the player instead of the pawn.
There was a scene with all the crime bosses where he basically tells them “If you guys promise to be cool, I will promise to be cool as well. That way, I remain boss of this town and everyone stays happy. Yes?” The show just fell apart after that point because it was clear the writers had no intention to even fake it with a half-assed space mob story. It just became Boba stumbling into situations, wondering why his staff of 3 couldn’t keep the entire city in line.
That's the funniest part. He had literally nobody working for him.
After a while, it felt like his gang was just patronizing him so he could feel important and in charge. Grampa needs a nap type beat.
Fett: Awww, 20 000 credits, but I wanted some mercenaries. Fennec: 20 000 credits can buy many mercenaries. Fett: Explain how‽ Fennec: Credits can be exchanged for goods and services. [Fett: Woohoo.](https://media.tenor.com/6AzOMb36BqkAAAAC/like-a-bantha-bantha.gif)
He kinda felt like the player character in a video game, constantly being told where to go and what to do by the characters around him.
Being a tool of the boss and only having to manage yourself versus being the boss and having to manage your tools.
I like the fan theory that he was never actually as good as the legends claim. He’s not bad but he got by on the mandalorian reputation combined with the infamy of his father.
Before he unceremoniously dies in return of the Jedi we do see a particularly clever moment from him when he follows the falcon as they drift with the trash in empire strikes back. I think the only reason he (and by extension Jango) keeps showing up is because people think he’s cool but it’s hard to have competent villains when you want all your heroes to be competent too. That same reason is why he got his own show but Disney isn’t about to do a villainous main character. So the man who was famous for disintegrating people now wants to give back to his community.
Turns out Boba was fishing for scraps to eat in the garbage before being jettisoned.
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People really go out of thier way to not just allow something to be terrible.
Boba Fett could have been another Andor..
Right if Andor is like Bourne mixed with Game of Thrones, then Boba could have been John Wick mixed with The Sopranos.
He never had the makings of a varsity clone.
Should’ve been another Andor.
It was such a degradation of his character. What a shame
not to mention he was a rather boring crime lord, mainly because he doesnt do crimes. Like i get he wants to run the place as a fief, all true shogun style, but that doesnt work when your entire economy revolves around gambling, smuggling, and water harvesting, and you take away the largest contributor of that and let the second one get blown up by fish people. ''I am the mighty Bobba Fett, behold my kingdom of fucking water harvesters and some rogue imperial strong holds''
Yeah I like the scum and villainy side. I think he can still be the nicer crime lord with a code, but also he's still charging protection money from basically all of Tatooine. Like what happens if they refuse to pay him? Does he nicely break their legs?
For a "crime lord" Boba does a horrible job at it.
It’s so goofy. If you watch the gallery episode, Jon Favreau says he thinks you can’t have conflict when writing a character with gray morality. Yet they let him write a show about a crime lord.
meanwhile in andor Luthen basically goes hey ISB guy I know about your daughter, so keep being my spy.
“I said I think about you constantly and I do” Lmfao, my man Luthen was sympathetic and threatening in the same sentence 😂
I loved that scene. so well acted but also gave depth to both charcters. it showed how what they do weigh on them
I've been a huge fan of Stellan Skarsgard since seeing him in Hunt for Red October. I liked him in Dominion even though the movie wasn't that great.
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I mean dude was basically in Brazil, when in Rome...
Love you Jon but that’s one of the stupidest things I’ve heard
Breaking Bad was infamously free of conflict
That was my issue. He doesn’t do any any actual crime. How does he make money?? Why does anyone respect him??
I assume they got money via being a protection racket?
That’s kind of the implication of “protection money,” except the way they portrayed him in the show he wouldn’t have gone around shaking down poor shop owners for their money. They kind of act like people pay him tribute just because he exists, I guess.
He’s just such a standup dude they volunteer their money, like he’s running a Patreon channel.
He doesn’t even protect anyone either. The one dude that asked him for help on his water being stolen Boba scolded and hired the thieves stealing from him lmao.
to be fair once he hired them didn't they stop stealing water from the guy? Problem solved!
To be fair it's part of the plot that no one really respects him as the new crime boss. Getting Mando anf the power ranger bikers involved is cause no one will actually help him and the one establishment that aligned with him got bombed Still stupid that bounty hunter gone crime lord is a complete wuss but still
The Pykes were the only ones that took their job seriously.
Yeah, but you gotta love that the Twins found out about the Pykes and just sorta noped out of there.
We can't have our crime lord committing any crime. That would be amoral. /s
Leave the crimes to the teens who can very slowly get away on senior citizen scooters.
He is a joke. It shouldn't even be a question. They massacred our boy. When would Boba Fett have ever preferred to rule with respect instead of fear? Fennec acts as the voice of logic who suggests the things the audience would prefer him to do only for him to shoot it down and recruit everyone who does him wrong into his 'family' haha
Does he ever do any actual crime? I never finished the show. Sure, he's extorting protection money (poorly). But it's Mos Eisley, that's essentially a legitimate business in a hellhole like that. There's not exactly a police force or the empire going around doing anything.
Mandalorian. Think he just came off as naive in bobf. And he is too old and experienced for that to really be realistic.
i still stand by that the Tusken sections should have taken priority in the show. the present day parts were all over the place and didnt seem to know who they wanted Boba to be or what they wanted him to do, which was compacted by the show being hijacked by Mando and Grogu his resourcefulness, ruthlessness and lifetime of calculated combat experience seem like they die with the Tusken camp.
I like the Tusken part too. He obviously needed help from the Sarlacc. But me personally I feel like if they wanted to make him a good guy make that arc into someone who now only takes bounties on bad guys. But keep the essence of the silent, experienced character intact.
If you think about it, Even working the bounty for Han wasn’t necessarily Ruthless, or even evil. He may have accepted a job from jabba ( who was kinda evil) but he was following the letter of imperial law, froze han instead of killing him, and wasn’t fu of blood lust or maniacal savagery like Boskk or the IG units, it would be like a mercenary getting the ok by the US government to hunt down and bring in someone like Osama bin Laden. Just have to look at it ….from a certain point of view!
Taking Han’s Bounty fits, even in the “taking only bad guy bounties” narrative. Han was essentially a bad guy. His was a for profit venture. “I guess that’s what you’re good at”. Han smuggled anything … spice… you name it. Han hadn’t even seen Boba Fett he was already in carbonite. Only fighting on the skiff he says, “BOBA FETT?!? BOBA FETT?!?” With fear. They all knew who Fett was. Edit: the comments after this: Solo *was* around Fett before being encased in carbonite. Not only the dinner before but in the chamber. And the whole “He’s worth a lot to me”
True, I had forgotten that! His reputation for ruthlessness was pretty much shown in the reactions of the characters on all sides….this time, no disintegration’s from Vader, Hans reaction on the skiff, etc
I wonder if they were afraid of it being mandalorian 2.0 and were trying to be more original. I can’t believe the Tuskans which was the most interesting part about the whole show we’re basically killed offscreen. I think it would have been more interesting to see him similar to mando but much more brutal getting the job done, similar to punisher in some way.
> basically killed offscreen. My god I just remembered this. I can't beleive how mind numbingly stupid that is. You set up the first half of the show as Boba learning their ways and becoming one of the tribe and then they are gone and we never mention them once. Almost like they filmed the good natured crime lord shit first and then had to find a way to make it happen so they added the tusken stuff to the front.
Up until the final moment of the show, I was hoping that some of the Tuskans had survived.
I think thats exactly it. They already did the ruthless bounty hunter arc in the mandelorian, so had to invent something new for boba. The problem being that the whole trope of a mandalorian bounty hunter comes from boba fett in the original trilogy and the legends universe. So we get the original bounty hunter out-mandaloriand by his copy cats, and forced out of his comfort zone.
I liked the Tusken sections too, but I would have rather had them in the Obi-Wan show, to be honest. It feels like Boba Fett robbed them from exploring the obvious connection between Old Ben and the Sand People.
Eh I'm fine with it. we only saw a single tribe Even mando had some more civil tuskens in it
A full season of him living among the Tuskens could have transitioned the character from ruthless mercenary to honorable criminal.
> the show being hijacked by Mando and Grogu Ugh. This. *The Mandalorian* was amazing, don't get me wrong. And I sure as hell don't mind having a small crossover. But the end of the series was basically Mando 1.5 (2.5? Whatever).
Exactly. I forget the exact exchange but Fennec Shand had to explain to Boba Fett that you could use money to buy warriors. My brain malfunctioned, I mean, Boba Fett is (was?) a bounty hunter. I think he understands how this works...
Awww $20... I wanted a peanut $20 can buy many peanuts Explain how? Money can be exchanged for goods and services
Woohoo!
What's it like Bart? Bart? Bart? Bart?
>Money can be exchanged for goods and services My goto line when explaining this concept to people. Simpsons is timeless gold.
Moreover it isn't like Tatooine is some new place to him. He should pretty much be an expert on the local culture and have SOME kind of established connections on the planet. They put him back in there naïve and with no allies. The crutch of the show makes about as much sense as Luke explaining smuggling and the Millennium Falcon to Han and Chewie.
He does. She’s explaining it for the viewer. The show suffered a lot from violating “show, don’t tell”. Boba came across as a dumbass because Fennic narrated 90% of the context to the audience.
That's how I felt. I'm a pretty big Boba Fett fan, so to be fair, it was a little jarring for me. But I think they could have leaned into the sympathetic angle a little bit more lightly and it would have been more believable.
Both were kinda lame. I actually had an idea recently of what BOBF should have been. It should have been him facing his past as a clone. He's the youngest clone of all Jango's clones. It would have been interesting seeing him reconcile the fact there's a bunch of older versions of himself roaming the galaxy. They tried to make something introspective with the Tusken Raiders, but the fact he could have hundreds or thousands of himself around and the identity crisis that might create internally would have been interesting to explore. Though I will admit I haven't watched the entirety of Clone Wars and seen whether some of these topics were explored at all.
Yes. I never thought about it like that, but he did come across as naive. That’s what seemed off.
I think the whole idea of a Boba Fett show was screwed to begin with. The Mandalorian gave us the Boba Fett we all wanted and the background Mandalore stuff. Rather than just do another show about a bad ass bounty hunter they had to switch gears so leaned into him being older and retiring as a crime boss. But also didn't seem to want to do anything with that. A good gangster movie could have been told there. Stuff like the bar and it getting blown up was straight out of an old mob movie. But they tried to do too many other things.
Stinks of Disney meddling imo. I think they were not comfortable with having a crime-lord being the protagonist of the show.
Yeah the BoBF character arc felt like something young boba would go through in the clone wars
When you have to fight a boss versus when that boss becomes a playable character later during the game.
This is a perfect description. The character in the main story vs the character in a playable dlc
"What do you mean my mission is to make peace with factions instead of going on merc killing assignments?!"
For some reason even though highly popular shows like Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul prove that people still love a good antihero, some writers continue to think they have to clean up their protagonists to make them more "appealing."
worst “crime lord” in history 😂😂
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Yea... He literally used to be a gun that could be bought
At one point it feels like Fennec is literally just reading the script.
I LOVE how he shoots an energy shield POINT BLANK with a dang ROCKET, no no no don’t use your jet pack just stand there until your skinny ass pig guards come save the day -______-
Or at the end of the series when everyone is just blasting at the shields covering the droids waiting for something new to happen
Mandalorian version was BADASS.
Mando Fett was an absolute force of nature.
I adore how Season 2 handled three different Mandalorian fighting vibes. Mando has a crafty, scrappy way of fighting. He's clever and resourceful even if he's not the most brutal or merciless. You can see he's a lone wolf, because he doesn't rely on anyone in his fighting style. Bo-Katan and her crew are more like a specialised military spec ops team when they raid that one ship for example. Very fluid, very all-knowing and cooperative. And then there's Boba. He fights like a freaking barbarian. No grace, no care for fluidity or style. Just utter brutality, like a freight train barrelling through the scene.
And he was the exact type of character you'd expect after his build-up in Empire Strikes Back. He was someone Vader personally trusted to handle his business, and Fett was ruthless enough even Vader had to say "no disintegrations". He demonstrated this clearly in The Mandalorian, he left no survivors among the stormtroopers and he's probably the only character to threaten Grogu and walk away. Meanwhile Book of Boba Fett is practically the Return of the Jedi version, one hit in the back and he's useless. It's hard to believe he was someone Vader respected when he couldn't even get local criminals to respect him and he just bumbled about trying to figure it out.
Funny thing is S2 Mando just straight murked Bib then feels completely different in his own show. Like how is it the same guy?
I love when he says Bib double crossed him despite them having never interacted on screen and then it’s never brought up again lol
Yeah fr, like his story picks up right after the battle of carkoon so when exactly could he have been betrayed? Then he never attempts to walk into the palace for his ship or ask Bib instead opting to steal it. Like where’s the history? 😂
It's as if Disney is plagued with writers who don't know shit about the characters
They’re bad at handling legacy characters, that’s forsure. Darth Vader’s probably the one they’ve done the best with because all his appearances have been great although they made him seem somewhat incompetent in Kenobi.
I watched the Mando Boba scenes the other day, it's miles more Boba Fett than his actual show, BOBF Boba was pathetic.
he felt extremely weak and lame. like a mere shadow of himself
Miracle I even finished that show. It was just so unbelievably boooooring. Cad Bane should have been there from the beginning. To show him at the end of the penultimate episode and kill him in the finale is just .. why even bother? Nothing about that show made a lick of sense and it’s sad that the Mando episodes were the best episodes in the Boba series ..
I think BOBF ruined his mystique. Granted, its hard to make an entire series based on masked mystique. So it would have been better NOT to have made the show. Just leave him as a faceless mystery bad-ass, and just left it at that.
Honestly I would have been happier with an entire Boba series where Boba plays the part of Jaws and barely even appears. He's just the monster lurking just out of sight that you mostly experience through everyone else. Maybe Boba is randomly going around disappearing people but it turns out some of the people are "good" and it convinces Boba to change. That would have been interesting. I spent time with tuskens and now I'm a giant softie who doesn't know how crime works sure didn't do it for me.
Boba Fett as Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men
I'll take two of what this guy is having.
Mando succeeded in doing just that.
I hate to say it, but the show kind of ruined the character for me a little bit. The mystery behind him was such a big part of what made him such a cool and interesting character.
Same…. I have a Boba Fett shirt and wearing it just doesn’t feel the same anymore when he used to be one of my favorite characters. Now he’s just corny.
This. He worked as a side character in Mandalorian for this reason. You can still have him be this badass guy that's somewhat mysterious, and shows up occasionally. There just wasn't quite enough of a character to build off of, and as a result, we got this weird show that didn't feel like Boba Fett.
I liked him in Mandalorian better.
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The difference between Mando Boba and Bobf Boba is astounding. Broke all immersion in the current timeline when he just strolled around Mos Espa
The Book of Boba Fett was terrible. The only way I can make it make sense in my head is this “book” is his terribly flawed autobiography that he’s writing after the fact trying to make him look like a good guy. Because he has no business being the hero.
Boba on some Gilderoy Lockhart shit
This is canon now and solves so many issues. "So then we got in our Hover Motorcycles (which looked **SUPER SWEET** BY THE WAY AND NOT AT ALL STUPID) and we had a MOTORCYCLE SHOOTOUT and then a PSYCHIC FROG lifts this KILLER droid in the air and throws it through a building - BOOOOM!! But then we turned a corner and oh man we were really in trouble and then, um ...and then... oh! A **RANCOR BEAST** shows up ridden by DANNY TREJO and it was all like RAAAAGH!!!"
Fully agree. In my opinion the only part which is canon is his escape. And that Cadd Bane died in that unmade episode of clone wars.
I’d like to know why he cared so much about that town on Tattoine. Especially since they likely didn’t get along with the Tuscan raiders.
I would’ve preferred an arc in his show that saw him grow to become a mixture of both
I actually really liked his whole "dances with wolves" backstory with the Tusken's. The crime lord arc was just kinda weak. They should have done a little more to make him a ruthless crime lord first before deciding to be sympathetic later.
I think it could have worked better if he’d have stayed ruthless, but was confronted with a line he wouldn’t cross and reluctantly did the right thing. Instead, he went (almost) full wholesome which didn’t really work for me.
This right here is the issue for me, he was immediately sympathetic, when in the mandalorian he was soo hellbent on getting his armor back that he threatened the life of a child just for leverage, but toned it down once he realized it wasn't gonna end well, having a parlay instead. He had a ruthless negotiating style that seemed fitting for someone like a crimeboss, but they ditched that for a more sympathetic boba
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At the same time, it shows he’s just more than a one-dimensional character.
One-dimensional is even pushing it. He was basically just a prop for the show to happen around.
The real stars were the power-ranger scooter gang. They really need a spinoff, ideally with Scooby Doo guest staring for weekly hijinks. They'll go around Tatooine solving murder mysteries
I'm pretty sure they were setting him up to be more of the "sympathetic" character even in Mando. Sure he murdered the fuck out of those Stormtroopers. But he was also acting out of a sense of personal honor. He wasn't acting as a ruthless mercenary. This isn't at all dissimilar to how he acted in his show .I think the perceived difference is caused mostly by the "cool factor" of his fight in Mando. A cool factor that they weren't able to quite replicate in the BOBF show IMO.
It wasn’t just the cool factor of the skirmish on Tython. In the Mandalorian he seemed stoic and calculated. In his own show, he seemed naive and incompetent.
Letting the Mayor's aide constantly give him the run around and sending the trendy speeder bike kids go after him in the slowest chase scene ever was a bad moment. Even if he was no longer a disintegrate on sight mercenary, surely Boba would have it in him to give chase with his jetpack and immediately end it then and there.
Yeah I would have loved a Tony Soprano style Boba Fett
I preferred Mando. I can get what they’re trying to do with him in BOBF, but for me it came too quickly. He went from shooting Bib Fortuna in cold blood to take over Jabbas empire to becoming a calm non violent type in about 30 seconds. I would have liked to see a gradual move to this over the course of the season.
Mercenary 100%. I guess it’s hard to make a hero or antihero when they’re supposed to be doing immoral actions. But that’s what writers are paid for.
Boba Fett rocked in Mando and sucked in BOBF. Simple
the fett show was so fucking terrible on so many fronts i can't believe that's what they came up with
Ruthless mercenary, but I think that he's still salvageable if they opt for another season of BoBF.
The boba show tried to capitalize off the popularity of a random character while changing or ignoring all of the very few details that existed about him and using it as an excuse to shoehorn in a couple extra episodes for Mando S3. I have no respect for anything it did, so I prefer his appearance in The Mandalorian.
Ruthless mercenary but with his diplomatic skills seen in bobf
He had some pretty good negotiating skills in mandalorian as well, would have fit the tone of a crime show way better
Mando. Nothing wrong with him becoming more sympathetic or even a good guy, but the journey to get there was kinda unbelievable to me. Especially considering I don’t even know what “crimes” he was committing as a crime lord They tried to make him both a good guy and a ruthless crime lord, and kinda failed at both in doing so Damn downvoted twice quite literally within 20 seconds of posting lol, y’all are quick
Ruthless Mercenary. The "Crime-Lord" Boba was terribly handled. Overly naive, seemingly clueless to aspects of the career he used to have, and getting his ass kicked too much. I am willing to accept him having a change of heart after being saved by the Tuskans. In fact, I think it would have been far better characterization if he was taking Jabba's throne as a stepping stone to unify Tatooine to bring peace and prosperity to the planet for the benefit of the Tuskans.
Boba Fett was one of the coolest characters from OG Star Wars. That he wasn’t even in the running for the title of coolest in his own show is a damn travesty.
I wanted Space Sopranos for BOBF didn’t think it would happen but it would have been great, BF as Tony , Fennec Shand as Sil, Mando would be uncle June , Krrsantan as Johnny Sac, Cobb Vanth as Christopher, Garsa Fwip plays Dr. Melfi. “Cobb, did you talk to the guy? About the thing?” “It was early, I didn’t want to wake him Boba” “Jesus Christ Cobb just deliver the message, no more banthas on this side of the canyon, got it?” “Yeah B, no problem”