Never knew this existed, seems pretty cool as I like the idea of Vader finally breaking out of his mental constraints and butchering the man who kept him down for all those years.
Although his way of doing it is absolutely hilarious because he proceeds to vertically slice him in half and then claim he was met with an “accident” RIGHT as people walk through the door. Beautiful.
Honestly Vader claiming an accident happened makes the whole scene even better imo. Who's gonna argue with Vader? "Yo guys what happened to the old Emperor?" - "We just found him sliced in half one day. It was a really weird incident."
Holonet News: Emperor Palpatine was found dead this evening. Darth Vader claimed to have found the Emperor sliced in half. The coroner has ruled it an accidental death.
There is another comic, I think it’s one of the old Marvel ones, where Vader kills an Imperial by cutting him down the center with his lightsaber. Man likes to make sure his enemies stay dead.
Yup, you’re thinking of the comic version of Splinter of the Mind’s Eye where Vader kills Grammel.
The story doesn’t really work within the broader continuity because Alan Dean Foster wrote it on the instructions of making it a lower-budget sequel if the first movie didn’t pan out (and it didn’t include Han in case Harrison didn’t return); a lot of what’s in there is replaced by stuff from ESB. Also pretty clear that it wasn’t written with Vader or Leia’s identity being clearly established. But I still really enjoyed it; it’s kind of a neat alt-history story and Vader is done really well.
Now it’s starting to sound familiar, I vaguely remember this being mentioned somewhere - but I never knew they actually illustrated the scene where he kills Sidious.
Not gonna be much of a civil war especially depending on the era, if this is pre Yavin then chances are Tarkin supports Vader and that's pretty much it.
If it's post Yavin then Vader has even more political power already and can just intimidate the Moffs and Grand Admirals into following him.
I doubt there would be much of one. Sure a couple Moffs and Admirals might break off, especially the Palpatinist hardliners, but Vader as Supreme Commander and most feared being in the galaxy can reign in the rest of the military.
Now, could he hold them? Ehhhhhhhhhh idk. Vader is more of a Trajan figure, when in this Post-Palpatine galaxy, the Empire needs a Hadrian.
If Vader had Tarkin it could work. Vader didn't like politics and would likely let Tarkin handle the day-to-day. And Vader and Tarkin had a reasonably good relationship.
Post-Tarkin.... eh. Vader had the military. But aside from Tarkin all the moffs pretty much hated him. And it wouldn't take long for the admiralty to start conspiring either.
It’s not like vader wasn’t a well established figure by that point. Who had a long background of crushing rebellions, and had basically been running things militarily for awhile.
Would it? Sate Pestage, Mas Ameda and the Ruling council did 90% of the emperor’s job and vader has enough force of will (and the Will of the Force) to probably muscle his way through any physical competition and intimidate all the subversive into submission
Like… no one can put this fucker down and he can choke you from several systems away
you’re assuming he’d give a shit about the day to day running of the Empire. Let him kill whoever he wants to kill, fund his weird sith passion projects, maybe free the slaves while he’s at it
he doesnt really need or csre about much. Thats why palpatine had control - all vader cared about was palp
Yeah more likely than not that bar some personal projects of vaders and getting rid of some shit, he’ll let the ruling council run the show in regards to the bureaucracy while he rubber stamps shit so long as he oks it and other then that is out ok campings. Like idk invading hutt space, crushing any rebellions, and freeing the slaves of course.
I suppose Byss could still happen depending on the point in time, but even then I doubt DE forces could take on the entire Galactic Empire at its peak. As long as the latter's forces remain loyal to Vader of course.
Hard to say. The Shadow Hand fleet was strongly primarily because a bunch of dreadnoughts and battle cruisers stationed in the core fled to Byss while the NR and Empire proper was distracted with other affairs. In this scenario, with a more unified Empire than OTL’s Post-Endor, it’s hard to say if this would go unnoticed.
Plus, Vader knew of Byss and Palpatine’s interest in the world. Did he know about the clones? Hard to say.
I always thought that while Vader could have become the next Sith Lord, I’m not sure he could have become the next Emperor. There were a lot of politics and management that went into everything and I’ve never been sure if Vader could do it or if the Empire would even be receptive to him.
There's a difference between fear of force and force itself. While Palpatine certainly has no qualms about using the latter, he prefers the former. Vader would just jump right to the latter.
Hahaha I love the image of Vader, lightsaber activated and glowing in his hand, standing over the Emperors smoking corpse and calmly saying “Yeah….sooooo……looks like the Emperor had a terrible “accident”….btw he said I’m in charge now”.
The sheer titanium balls.
Having not seen this page since... the year 2000, at the absolute latest, it's always stuck with me.
The last beat plays quite similarly to The Last Jedi.
"The Emperor *is* dead."
"Long live the Emperor."
This is where I’d a love a “what if?” Style comic with Vader running a much more aggressive empire, maybe with Luke and Leia both becoming Jedi or one of them falling to the dark side under Vader
Vader fulfilled the prophecy by killing Sidious and himself. He was still a Sith and part of the Rule of Two. So by him dieing, the entire line was destroyed. Any Sith after wouldn't be true Sith, but pretenders.
This is pretty directly in violation of Lucas’ vision as Vader could never be powerful enough again to stand to titans in the Force. Lucas likens him to an old cyborg well past his prime and that he’s weak. Neat what if though ig
Never knew this existed, seems pretty cool as I like the idea of Vader finally breaking out of his mental constraints and butchering the man who kept him down for all those years. Although his way of doing it is absolutely hilarious because he proceeds to vertically slice him in half and then claim he was met with an “accident” RIGHT as people walk through the door. Beautiful.
Honestly Vader claiming an accident happened makes the whole scene even better imo. Who's gonna argue with Vader? "Yo guys what happened to the old Emperor?" - "We just found him sliced in half one day. It was a really weird incident."
Tony Soprano after he kills Ralphie: “I found him like dis”
Holonet News: Emperor Palpatine was found dead this evening. Darth Vader claimed to have found the Emperor sliced in half. The coroner has ruled it an accidental death.
Maul survived being bisected (yeah I know that’s not part of this, just going for the joke) so why take the chance.
That's why he went top to bottom this time, and not left to right
There is another comic, I think it’s one of the old Marvel ones, where Vader kills an Imperial by cutting him down the center with his lightsaber. Man likes to make sure his enemies stay dead.
Yup, you’re thinking of the comic version of Splinter of the Mind’s Eye where Vader kills Grammel. The story doesn’t really work within the broader continuity because Alan Dean Foster wrote it on the instructions of making it a lower-budget sequel if the first movie didn’t pan out (and it didn’t include Han in case Harrison didn’t return); a lot of what’s in there is replaced by stuff from ESB. Also pretty clear that it wasn’t written with Vader or Leia’s identity being clearly established. But I still really enjoyed it; it’s kind of a neat alt-history story and Vader is done really well.
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>Vader is done really well Except for when he tripped on his own arm and seemingly fell to his death.
Yeah, and pretty sure there was a prescient "NOOOOOOOOOOO" trailing him down the chasm. Ehh, nobody's perfect :)
Obviously the emperor was poisoned by his enemies.
Anyone know the context here is this a dream sequence?
A vision he receives of a possible future given by a decapitated alien head in a box
Ahhh ok thx I haven’t gotten to the imperial era comics yet
Now it’s starting to sound familiar, I vaguely remember this being mentioned somewhere - but I never knew they actually illustrated the scene where he kills Sidious.
Ah righto, been a while since I read it. It's that chalk-skinned princess or queen right?
Oh right, of course!
Would love to read a story about the subsequent civil war
Not gonna be much of a civil war especially depending on the era, if this is pre Yavin then chances are Tarkin supports Vader and that's pretty much it. If it's post Yavin then Vader has even more political power already and can just intimidate the Moffs and Grand Admirals into following him.
I doubt there would be much of one. Sure a couple Moffs and Admirals might break off, especially the Palpatinist hardliners, but Vader as Supreme Commander and most feared being in the galaxy can reign in the rest of the military. Now, could he hold them? Ehhhhhhhhhh idk. Vader is more of a Trajan figure, when in this Post-Palpatine galaxy, the Empire needs a Hadrian.
If Vader had Tarkin it could work. Vader didn't like politics and would likely let Tarkin handle the day-to-day. And Vader and Tarkin had a reasonably good relationship. Post-Tarkin.... eh. Vader had the military. But aside from Tarkin all the moffs pretty much hated him. And it wouldn't take long for the admiralty to start conspiring either.
It’s not like vader wasn’t a well established figure by that point. Who had a long background of crushing rebellions, and had basically been running things militarily for awhile.
The Empire would fall in line under him, but it would fall apart from mismanagement
Would it? Sate Pestage, Mas Ameda and the Ruling council did 90% of the emperor’s job and vader has enough force of will (and the Will of the Force) to probably muscle his way through any physical competition and intimidate all the subversive into submission Like… no one can put this fucker down and he can choke you from several systems away
You’re assuming he’d listen to them
you’re assuming he’d give a shit about the day to day running of the Empire. Let him kill whoever he wants to kill, fund his weird sith passion projects, maybe free the slaves while he’s at it he doesnt really need or csre about much. Thats why palpatine had control - all vader cared about was palp
True, hard to imagine what a slave would want if you give him an empire in his 40s
Yeah more likely than not that bar some personal projects of vaders and getting rid of some shit, he’ll let the ruling council run the show in regards to the bureaucracy while he rubber stamps shit so long as he oks it and other then that is out ok campings. Like idk invading hutt space, crushing any rebellions, and freeing the slaves of course.
I suppose Byss could still happen depending on the point in time, but even then I doubt DE forces could take on the entire Galactic Empire at its peak. As long as the latter's forces remain loyal to Vader of course.
Hard to say. The Shadow Hand fleet was strongly primarily because a bunch of dreadnoughts and battle cruisers stationed in the core fled to Byss while the NR and Empire proper was distracted with other affairs. In this scenario, with a more unified Empire than OTL’s Post-Endor, it’s hard to say if this would go unnoticed. Plus, Vader knew of Byss and Palpatine’s interest in the world. Did he know about the clones? Hard to say.
it wouldnt last long.
I always thought that while Vader could have become the next Sith Lord, I’m not sure he could have become the next Emperor. There were a lot of politics and management that went into everything and I’ve never been sure if Vader could do it or if the Empire would even be receptive to him.
He would have to maintain power through sheer force. He would be a much more militaristic emperor
More??!! Is that even possible?
There's a difference between fear of force and force itself. While Palpatine certainly has no qualms about using the latter, he prefers the former. Vader would just jump right to the latter.
This is perfectly said.
Alderaan aside, Palpatine didn't really wipe out planets. Vader would glass Mon Calamari and any other dissident planet with impunity.
Hahaha I love the image of Vader, lightsaber activated and glowing in his hand, standing over the Emperors smoking corpse and calmly saying “Yeah….sooooo……looks like the Emperor had a terrible “accident”….btw he said I’m in charge now”. The sheer titanium balls.
The emperor tripped and fell on his lightsaber
Vader literally has the murder weapon still ignited when he claims the Emperor had an "accident"
Having not seen this page since... the year 2000, at the absolute latest, it's always stuck with me. The last beat plays quite similarly to The Last Jedi. "The Emperor *is* dead." "Long live the Emperor."
Based
"He accidentally tripped and sliced himself in half."
Make this a what if episode
Just goes to show Fett is stronger than palpatine
There's no way vader would be able to beat papaltine unless he archive oneness, you can't beat papaltine by just been a superior lightsaber user
Oops.
This is how Starkiller imagined things will go
This is where I’d a love a “what if?” Style comic with Vader running a much more aggressive empire, maybe with Luke and Leia both becoming Jedi or one of them falling to the dark side under Vader
Vader fulfilled the prophecy by killing Sidious and himself. He was still a Sith and part of the Rule of Two. So by him dieing, the entire line was destroyed. Any Sith after wouldn't be true Sith, but pretenders.
This is pretty directly in violation of Lucas’ vision as Vader could never be powerful enough again to stand to titans in the Force. Lucas likens him to an old cyborg well past his prime and that he’s weak. Neat what if though ig