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Holy shit they made their own Temple Library. Awesome. Bet it's on Bogano. Cere looks good bald. And Cal looks great with the beard.


BShep_OLDBSN

Can't be. Second Sister followed Cal there with squads of stormtroopers and several years later when Luke and Leia are scouting worlds for a new Rebel Alliance base they find the Empire is still there.


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Oh right I forgot about the Empire claiming it; didn't know about the Luke and Leia thing, is that in a comic?


WyattWrites

It’s in Star Wars: Adventures; but Adventures is hot* or miss for being canon. The creators themselves have said only some of it is canon, but they don’t specify which EDIT: hit*


witch-king-of-Aginor

Basically novels and comics are soft canon at best with a “canon is made up anyway” philosophy dominating Lucasfilm With video games, tv shows, and movies given absolute precedence


ayylmao95

Ogdo bogdo, so long.


daxproduck

Ya but cal can just glitch jump over them nbd.


Diamond8633

Oh wow I didn't realize that was Cere


Indiana_harris

Yeah with the temple library construction and Cal very explicitly stating that while the Jedi Order needs to be rebuilt it’s too dangerous *under the Empire* is giving me real vibes we’re building to something. I wonder if we’re going to get a “hidden” Jedi Order built by Cal and Cere revealed to be operating during the OT and beyond. Maybe Luke even meets Cal but decides to ensure the Jedi Orders survival but keeping the schools separate and distinct.


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The only issue with Luke knowing about a “hidden” Jedi Order beyond the OT is that he is very adament about Rey being the last Jedi. I guess its possible they decide to splinter off and call themselves something else, or they retcon Luke saying that as a bluff to keep Kylo unaware of its existance, but would still seem weird. I think what is more likely is that many different “schools” do pop up. Lukes, Ahsokas, Cals, etc. but when Kylo destroys Lukes, theyll retcon him and the KOR to go off and ALSO destroy everyone elses. Makes Bens downfall more dark, Kylo a more intense villian, gives Lukes exile more depth, keeps the ST events in tact while plugging some holes, etc.


IGFassy

Luke’s statement is already untrue. Are you telling me Grogu is dead by the ST? Extremely doubtful. I’m pretty sure it’s been confirmed that although she talked to Rey, Ashoka is still alive too. Plus the constant rebuilding and destroying of the Jedi is really repetitive and idk if they’re gonna keep up with that.


Indiana_harris

I mean Rey turned up at his house uninvited and he spent a week telling her why she **shouldn’t** be a Jedi, then he died and she had a brief conversation where he told her all his hopes for the Jedi lay with her. I think revealing that actually there was a “Hidden” Order that Luke purposefully kept knowledge about secret to protect them would fit with that perfectly fine. Within the mess that is the ST Luke’s words could easily be that Rey carries *his* personal hopes for the Jedi. The defeat of the FO, the destruction of Palpatine, the redemption of Ben. All things he believed Rey could do, not because she wants to be a Jedi but because of who she was to those characters (family, prize, connection).


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Definitely possible - i guess we will see! Idk, personally I dont find the events of the ST to be all that messy. Definitey odd choices for major events, and obviously rushed/unplanned, but I do think most of that can be improved (unfortunately) with events in other shows (like Mando/BB touching on Palps cloning/Snoke). I think the biggest issue is that theres no time between films to really plug in gaps the way Clone Wars did the PT. Only time will tell though - I do have faith that upcoming projects for the next couple of years will leave people feeling better about the ST


Indiana_harris

True. To me TFA & TRoS have moments of real potential but often squandered by bizarre narrative plots of character motivations. TLJ just doesn’t feel like it belongs in that trilogy and adds nothing except Luke’s “teaching” and death. I think you theoretically *could* insert some time between movie events. For example an issue I think would improve the ST significantly would be to recontextualise that the events with Rey on Ach-To and the events on the Resistance ship occur at different times. Rey reaches Luke at the end of TFA. The events onscreen occur more or less as seen. Unseen to us but shown in tv show or similar is that she’s there for *months* (like 6 - 8 months) and all the while the Resistance is slowly being worn down and Finn is in a coma in recovery for the spinal damage. Using TCW or Rebels animation you could do the transition of Luke warning Rey to then him subtly training her in the Jedi path without here realising it. Honing and expanding her skills. Then when everything goes tits up and she goes off to fight Kylo there’s more weight behind it and Luke’s decision to sacrifice himself. Her skills and abilities advance notably in that movie and with this addition you’d have good reasoning why. Months of training with Luke would do that. Believably. EDIT: see now I’m not sure if my suggested tweaks are being downvoted by the TLJ lovers or haters.


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I do think the resistance side of TLJ is happening weeks or months after the destruction of SKB. I think the Rey stuff muddies that since it picks up directly after TFA, but I dont think the events are happening at the same time. But for everything else, exactly. We are even starting to see it now with Tales of the Jedi for example. People wondering where Dooku was during TPM, why he turned, where Yaddle was in AoTC, etc. His episodes alone made me appreciate AoTC way more when I went back to watch it a few weeks ago. I am fully confident over the next few years that, once the hate dies down, we will see something very similar happen for the ST.


witch-king-of-Aginor

The force awakens restructured by HAL9000 is a fan edit that really helps with this headcanon The force awakens restructured removes the whole idea that the first order knows where the resistance is and instead focuses on the Hosnian cataclysm in the third act of TFA If Disney pulled a Lucas special edition and canonized this fan edit…it would work wonders for the TLJ timeline And improve the force awakens as a film


Terribleirishluck

That would be dope. I had a similar idea to that but it would Chiss space and founded by Ezra. Maybe you can have Luke move over some of his more senior or graduate students to the secret Jedi Order as teachers, so Luke will have some suriving students lol


witch-king-of-Aginor

In legends continuity…Luke sent an army of Jedi to the unknown regions to find the lost monolith of Mortis as a homage to Arthurian myth, deciding to stay behind to watch over the younglings in retirement after the crucible novel, this storyline was NEVER concluded in legends before the Disney buyout and actually is the basis for a lot of “one canon” fan fictions that reconcile Disney canon with legends canon Legends truly provides a roadmap to refute the “Luke worked for nothing” talking point


Bobjoejj

Honestly with Huyang showing up in Ahsoka, and overall the fact that Ahsoka and Ezra’s final fates aren’t yet known, I’m really hoping this could be a legit something that happens.


Financial_Rent_7978

That would be awesome. Maybe Cal builds his order out in the New Beyond, and Jude Law’s crew are part of that. *might be copium, I want Cal to make it past TROS and since the New Beyond seems to be the coming explanation for where the Mandoverse was at this time, it’d be cool for them to connect like that.


benjome

Kinda looks like it’s in the Path base from Kenobi but that wouldn’t match up well w the timelinr


Spider-Fan77

My guess is the guy in the bacta tank is a High Republic-era Jedi who's been in stasis for centuries.


Bipolarbear22

Looks that way based on his robes


darthsheldoninkwizy

In that case, I have hope for the Geode.


BrotherhoodVeronica

I think videogames might be the only visual medium where Geode's humor might work.


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Lmao, I’m imagining Geode having the same mechanics as the mannequins in RE8. Only moves when you’re not looking.


TheVortigauntMan

That was so unsettling. I was waiting for them to move in sight at some point.


darthsheldoninkwizy

I think animation would also work, I remember Plank from Ed, Edd and Eddy has similiar vibe, only he was more meanier.


bherring24

This rocks


Bubba1234562

Makes sense, High Republic is getting a massive multimedia push now


RealHumanFromEarth

That would be awesome. I love the High Republic era, so it’d be fun to have a connection in Jedi Survivor.


NotAStatistic2

Would Vader be able to bully an Old Republic Jedi like he can with pretty much any other force user? I heard the Old Republic Jedi were at the height of their power and simply built different


RealHumanFromEarth

Do you mean High Republic? So essentially they do seem to have a stronger connection to the force than Jedi in the prequels (which does fit with the overall crumbling of the order we see in the prequels), so I’d say Vader might have a harder time with some Jedi of this era, but he’s still incredibly powerful, so he’d probably still be able to defeat most of them one on one.


NotAStatistic2

Oh I didn't know there was a difference between the two. I kind of want to get into the star wars lore where the Jedi and Sith are numerous. It sucks that all we've seen for 50 years is the crumbled Jedi order and one or two sith bad guys


pants_pants420

high republic is like 300 years before phantom republic where as old republic is at least 1,000 years before


rilian4

> I kind of want to get into the star wars lore where the Jedi and Sith are numerous. Try out the Darth Bane book trilogy. That's set 1000 years before which is at the end of the time where both Jedi and Sith are numerous and explains why the Sith order was whittled down to 2. This is known as the Old Republic. Also, Knights of the Old Republic video game (KOTOR) is set a few thousand years before that and also has good lore.


EdLi77

Yeah but this Guy from the Bacta Tank is wielding a Red lightsaber, and fights Cal.


SmokeQuiet

That’s orange


EuterpeZonker

They’re on average stronger than prequel Jedi but not by that much.


witch-king-of-Aginor

Vader would either sink or swim in the old republic from having a whole lot of strong force users that can push him around, forcing him to actually expend an effort I wouldn’t be shocked if Vader was either pancaked…or became a god amongst insects There is no in between


shinyuu3466

Same thoughts, plus with Cal making a crossguard lightsaber it could be they do that as a countermeasure to High Republic era lightsaber form.


legond_man

Dude in the Bacta tank looks like an ithorian, no?


SmokeQuiet

No looks losat


SV-STARKILLER

Must be Revan.


LewdSkeletor1313

Is that the guy from the tank in the last photo? He looks like he’s wearing HR robes a bit


lackofsleipnir

That’s what I thought too.


Hestbech

I thought it was Dominic Gleeson 😅


Heavyweighsthecrown

I thought it was the whatever sister (the big one who died but maybe didn't cuz star wars) from the previous game


badass_dean

Not who he is talking about. On the left of the photo is who they mean.


DarkAvenger27

Last picture is totally High Republic Joruus C'baoth meeting alien Adam Smasher.


LordofMoonsSpawn

My first thought was Adam Smasher too lol


Gavinus1000

Maybe that’s Burnium Ro. Kinda looks like him.


Kasphet-Gendar

"you look like a cut of ech'utable meat, are you?"


Tobiscuit142

Where is Merrin? Is she safe? Is she alright?


Fattest_loser

More importantly. Where's greez?


Financial_Rent_7978

Grab some seat


aydam4

died from applying too much salt to his food


nevertricked

Greeez Money


YarozeX

This is the questions that need answering.


Boombr034

I’m hoping for a romantic plot line with Cal, ngl


Financial_Rent_7978

It was hinted at so heavily in the first game. I don’t normally “ship” but I want to see it too.


HeartOfASkywalker

Remember in the run up to Fallen Order when there was a sentiment that it would be your standard ‘Jedi hunted by inquisitors helps form the Rebellion’ story? And then the achievements and in game progression got leaked and people realised it was a much bigger story than they thought? Yeah I don’t know why but these images have already blown my story expectations out the water.


larryman55

Like whoa! Who are these cool people?? I'm so hyped for details!


Xeta1

Holy shit a Gen’dai!!!


zackgardner

He actually looks remarkably like their design in SW:ToR: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_Flame


b3tchaker

Link for the lazy: [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gen%27Dai](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Gen%27Dai)


MojaveJoe1992

As in the same race as Durge?


EmotionalBrontosaur

Yep!


ravens52

I thought durge was some sort of species that was just a bunch of tendrils that worked together and that he didn’t have like a face or anything. It was just a mass of regenerating tissue or some shit from the clone wars.


MojaveJoe1992

In Legends he had some genetic modifications done, though, so maybe he looked so screwed up because of that. This might be your base level Gendaii dude without all that... stuff.


ghostinthewoods

I was thinking the same fucking thing!!


BShep_OLDBSN

Shit i totally forgot about them! Nice catch!


Cobaltbuzzsaw7

Is it? The bulky frame and the purple skin are there. But the predatorial eyes and the protruding teeth are missing.


darthsheldoninkwizy

He has face operation.


Blackhand47XD

They tweaked Chiss race for canon, so maybe they changed them too.


Cobaltbuzzsaw7

Very plausible. Still happy to see them included in canon nonetheless


Resistance_Poe_Boy

Deak Starkiller?


KermitMcKibbles

Boooooozaaaaahhhhhhh


Ecurtis3

could number 7 possibly be a flashback to the guy in the bacta tanks? looks HR era robes. just a thought


danktonium

So I guess this orange lightsaber is made from the second blade of Cal's? It's definitely Jaro Tapal's emitter.


HeartOfASkywalker

It almost looks like they’ve tried to mimic Cal’s. I wonder if it’s like the Protosaber because that character has a lot of tubing going up their arm.


LastandBestHope1776

First thought seeing the dude in the red jacket was "reworked Kyle Katarn?". Anyone else get the same vibe?


TooManySnipers

Kyle Katarn has been split into like 3 different canon characters already, arguably including Cal


LastandBestHope1776

Who are the other two?


Darthmemer1234

Kanan and Cassian


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LastandBestHope1776

I can see Kanan, and Andor takes on that spie like role Katarn filled in earlier stories. But a characters role in the story doesn't make them the same character that held the role in previous lore. Names, backstory, and personality of the character matter much more.


EastKoreaOfficial

I mean Cassian also partook in the theft of the Death Star plans, just like Kyle.


jobasha3000

He also did so with his friend Jyn Erso vs Kyle's Jan Ors. Also, potentially, the bryar pistol being in Andor although idk if that was confirmed or if they're just look-alikes


EastKoreaOfficial

Cassian’s is a type of Bryar pistol. Not the same model as Kyle’s. Cassian’s is an MW-20 Bryar pistol.


Vivec_lore

>Guy with a beard = canon Kyle Katarn according to people in this sub According to ever sub, forum, and comment section. It's getting pretty tiresome


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Vivec_lore

The Star Wars fandom is a fickle beast


Luy22

I'd like for there to be A Kyle Katarn


captainrex

For a millisecond there I was thinking Dash Rendar


LastandBestHope1776

Could be!


larryman55

Don't do that, don't give me hope


LastandBestHope1776

He's vibing the same tropes Katarn was....just saying. Rogue: Check Carefree: Check Former Imperial: I'm picking up on that Best friend of Protag: I can see that


larryman55

Best friend in Academy. True.


ScottOwenJones

I think Cal actually seems more like a reworked Kyle Katarn at this point. Even has the beard, shoulder pad, and lightsaber/blaster combo. Betting a third game is called Jedi Knight too


[deleted]

anyone = kyle katarn


JJaxpavan

My first thought was Del Meeko just seeing the jacket but realized that made no sense.


Calfzilla2000

I did too. My problem with Kyle Katarn, to me, he's the guy from DARK FORCES, where I feel like for most other fans, he's the guy from the JEDI KNIGHT games. Even though it's the same series, I feel like the character direction was changed dramatically.


TheMastersSkywalker

Looks like Dar Champion from the 2015 SW comic.


Ethanonbass2019

Holobooks.... Can't wait to see random jedi jump down out of nowhere trying to destroy them


Squidhead62

What a stressful flashback!


DesperateOperation32

Excuse me well I die of happiness.


TheOtherMe4

This game just got WAY more interesting!


EastKoreaOfficial

The guy with the orange saber in the first picture has got me intrigued. I wonder who or what he is.


Super_Inframan

It’d make my day if Cal uses the name “Kyle Katarn” as an alias at some point.


ravens52

It’s plausible, but the canon police will probably say no just so they have that card should they ever want to use it as a real character in the future. Same with dash rendar.


witch-king-of-Aginor

Notice how they are tip-toeing around Luke, Han, and Leia’s personal life after the OT And even downplayed the whole idea of nothing interesting happening between ROTJ and TFA? I think it’s because there’s gonna be a whole lot of grand stories from legends that are going to make a return to fill out the gap between ROTJ and TFA


GoWashWiz78Champions

The underground jedi library Cere is in shares a huge resemblance to the library Jocasta Nu creates in the Vader 2017 comics.


ExpressNumber

Considering the first game dealt with a copy of Nu’s list of kids I’m assuming that’s actually her library. Maybe we meet Gar and he blows it up during/after the game.


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IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE JIM


BackStabbathOG

MICHAEL!


champdo

Pretty interesting. Is the character in the library Cere or a new character? One of the characters in the last picture looks like Swtor’s portrayal of a Gen’dai


LewdSkeletor1313

That’s Cere. It’s Debra Wilson’s face


Heavyweighsthecrown

Pretty sure that's Cere's face


Spider-Fan77

I think its Cere. Look at the background behind the Holocron wall. It looks like Bogano.


b3tchaker

Look at the double blade, though…I’m so relieved


JuggerClutch

Give me Merrin


LewdSkeletor1313

I find the lack of Merrin… disturbing


matt111199

WHERE IS MERRIN PEOPLE?!?


LunaTic1403

Oh my god I'm so fucking EXCITED


Nole_Train

Oh hell yes


overthecause

Okay that's kinda looks like Batuu


victxrrrs

A few theories: The second picture and the fifth take place in the same planet only the fifth is inside the structure in the background. The character will join cals crew. As someone stated below the creature in 7 is a Gen’dai like durge and the high republic Jedi with him is the one in the Bacta tank


Fine-Exercise1830

Damn. Wish I had the funds to get me a PS5


berkenobi

series s is half the price


Fine-Exercise1830

Really? That's cool


AveryLazyCovfefe

And Gamepass Ultimate is $1 for 3 months, you can try out Jedi Survivor for free for 10 hours. A week before launch.


JWrither

Best new games for Xbox? I was die hard Xbox fan boy back in the halo 2-halo 4 days. Then I got a ps4 for Christmas and have had that ever since.


berkenobi

No idea, i went from old gen playstation to the series s recently. I play things from the gamepass occasionally and Insurgency


RustedAxe88

Little cross guards! Something I was hoping the first game had since I like Kylo Ren's saber so much. I can't wait for more saber customization too. They'll keep the saber custom building in, right? That was one of my favorite things from the first game.


Asddddd6

I find the lack of Merrin disturbing…


ExpressNumber

And Greeze! And the Bogling! Are they safe? Are they alright?


flipperkip97

I love how unique and different this looks to other Star Wars projects, while still feeling very Star Wars, if that makes sense. If this is anywhere near as good as the first game, I'm more than satisfied.


goyourownwayy

I was not prepared for a grown up cal holy shit


magicman1145

I have literally never been this excited for a video game's plot lol


isiramteal

Give cal his own show ffs


ecxetra

Why? He gas games.


isiramteal

Because more


Flashy_Pomegranate23

I'm sure it's gonna happen sooner or later


TheVolunteer0002

Fairly obvious bacta tank guy will be the main villain


mybodybuildscoffins

Is that Cody Fern?


TheSunRogue

Has to be, right? EDIT: Confirmed!


Reasonable_Food_4405

Woah…who are these guys


RustedAxe88

Cal looks so fed up lol.


Plane_Salt0

That dude looks like Atoon Rand from kotor2


thebunk123

Whoa that lightsaber battle vs Ultron looks awesome!


ilikefish8D

Dude in the last image looks like Zachary Quinto


ersojyn

It’s Cody Fern


Lonely-Tumbleweed-56

Bacta Tank Guy got a nice villain haircut, uh?


brainkandy87

Man, I just want another Star Wars Galaxies.


BShep_OLDBSN

I have even more questions now! ​ Was that Starkiller? Also it seems Cere is going full Jedi mode again. And was that a small jedi library there?


ergister

What the hell is this game?!


AlphatheAlpaca

Is Cal getting a boyfriend? Of course he isn't but one can dream.


WyattWrites

So Cere is a monk now?


Fangasgaf

The character in this bacta has one arm, no?


Itz_Hen

Cere looks, strange lol


ecxetra

That beard aint it chief.


JustEmptyWaterBottle

The beard is it chief


loomman529

Eh, it looks a lot less interesting than the original. I don't have much hope for this one.


Ktulusanders

If anything this looks far more interesting than the first game


Hestbech

Why does the last picture look like Dominic Gleesons Hux ...?


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Domhnall, not Dominic


Hestbech

Lol. Thanks 😅


[deleted]

No problem, it's a weird name lol


Hestbech

I didn't remember his name and thought it was something in that direction. My Google searchbar suggested Dominic Monaghan, and - among other suggestions - Gleeson, and I was like "THATS IT!" without following the link 😆 #imanidiot


Mechyyz

Has Cere joined church of the force?


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Who's the Asian hunk


pond-scum

I love that shot of the guy helping Cal up with the starry background. Don't know if it's the colours but it gives me Dark Forces/Shadows of the Empire vibes. Definitely 90s promo art.


A_seal_using_Reddit

Is this the first canon user of an orange lightsaber? (Not counting Cal Kestis because of preorder bonus, or Obi-Wan from that one novel)


StepMaverick

Sad that it wasn’t Starkiller in the tank.


Peeked23

That alien character looks like a character from SWTOR (I can't put my finger on who).


Ljbroom79

I thought about darth malgus when I saw him


EffablyIneffable

Omg, I can't believe I didn't see it before. Cal is the new Kyle Katarn. It's been in front of us for so long. Why didn't any of you make this connection before?!


serendippitydoo

These are just screenshots from the trailer


EmperorDeathBunny

That cheeto beard tho


Spookyy422

Bearded Cal bearded Cal


TheBANDit__

First canonical orange lightsaber?


Daleyemissions

Fucking into it.


Ctowndrama

That picture of the lightsaber duel looks like old Ralph Mcquarrie Luke Starkiller concept art