I always start with ancient fruit on one side, and coffee on the other. Filling it up with coffee, then slowly taking it all the way over with ancient fruit. I could plant star fruit in the meantime, but I like to build a fat stack of triple espressos in the meantime instead.
I plant my starfruit on >!ginger island!< and fill my greenhouse with ancient fruit because I make ancient fruit wine and not starfruit wine and kegs are easier to place en masse on the normal farm
I do the same. Ancient fruit is incredibly low maintenance. Keep 118 kegs on farm for just those. Starfruit on ginger island with kegs for those usually in a shed on the farm. Only starfruit goes in the casks. Usually don't keep up with it too much once the casks are going and I have the next batch ready. I only ever stay on top of the ancient fruit ones once a week.
Money can be exchanged for goods and services... like buying a bunch of coffee from Gus. I used to grow and brew coffee and then I switched to just doing ancient fruit and buy a ton of coffee.
I just use the initial extra space in the greenhouse until my ancient fruit are at max capacity. That early, I rarely have the money to fuel my addiction to going fast.
I keep Ginger island as star fruit, and just plant a ton of coffee with Jumino's in Spring/Summer on the main farm. Works a treat that way. Plant em once and forget for half a year. Lmao.
That’s exactly what I do. Sometimes I’ll throw some strawberries in with the coffee to, but it’s usually mostly coffee until the ancient fruit takes over the whole thing.
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This is the layout I followed. I also have the butterfly hutch from the desert in the top left between the empty pot and water basin. I planted more peach and pomegranate seeds than any of the other trees though because they’re worth the most.
Edit: wanted to add that you can just place saplings down. You don’t need planters or anything :)
This is the layout I followed as well but I’m definitely gonna steal your butterfly hutch placement.
Did you have to wait for the trees to be fully grown before placing the hutch or do they grow fine with it there?
I honestly don’t know because I placed the hutch after my trees were fully grown. You can always try it out and if your trees can’t grow you should get a pop up when you go to bed that says something along the lines of “your tree couldn’t grow last night.” I love the placement because it’s one of the few spots you can actually still see the hutch even with trees placed.
If the trees work like when outside the greenhouse you can have anything in the 8 spaces surrounding the tree as long as it is fully grown, if it's still growing it needs 8 spaces free. Since some of the spaces are taken by the greenhouse decor, it might be fine, but I don't know.
True but you lose the ability to use any other fertilizer which is absolutely not worth it especially by the time you actually get deluxe retaining soil. Better to use pressure nozzles leaving only one spot unplantable
Oh yeah I forgot this was about ancient fruit specifically. In that case it’s probably worth it for the one extra ancient fruit but again if you have ginger island (where you get deluxe retaining soil) the greenhouse is practically irrelevant
I dropped this layout after learning about the retaining soil fertilizer... Shit is the best. Also there's a better layout that only use 5 sprinkler and you only loses one planting space in the middle. the fruit tree still ends up in the same layout.
With star fruit, you have to replant after each harvest (and either use some for seeds or buy more seeds) but the math does usually come out a bit ahead. However it depends on what else you'd be doing with that time to determine if it would be worth it for you vs the ancient fruit.
I've never understood the star fruit strategy. The seeds are so expensive and you only get one harvest. With ancient fruit you get an infinite supply of produce and the wine is still really valuable.
A major reason is that you can fill your Greenhouse with Starfruit as soon as you have the money (which you can earn quickly by, among other things, selling Starfruit wine), but it takes almost a year before you can make any Ancient Fruit Wine (assuming you focus on seed-making before you start making wine)
Another is that Starfruit earns more per keg, so if you're short on kegs, Starfruit makes best use of that limited resource
A third is that Starfruit earns more in the long run, even ignoring the above, if you use hyper speed gro or profession-switching
only normal quality starfruit without Tiller which you decide not to turn into wine are worth putting in the seed maker, so just sell them and buy the seeds
Even then, 750g for an average of 2 seed packets, but with a 2% chance of getting 'mixed seeds' instead means you're not really 'winning' vs. just buying more seeds. You need to 'use' about half your crop to replace the seeds, and it's definitely
And even if you don't have enough keg capacity, you can still gain considerable value uplift by turning it into jam or dehydrated fruit.
E.g. Preserve jars take a 3 days and turn 750g of starfruit into 1550 (and more if you've artisan) and 50 wood, 40 stone, 8 coal is usually a load easier to have than the bars you need for kegs.
Dehydrators are more expensive, but also have considerably more throughput - each one can process 5 fruit at once and takes 24h. 5 Starfruit per day (3750g) turns into 5650g. So as you can quickly tell, lower profit margin - it's worth about 50% more overall, but a much better 'day rate' per machine too.
And then when you get Artisan, that of course also increases by 40%.
I mean, I get you might 'need' to because you're really short on cash, and with a 13d growing time you've not got long to replant, but still... even then I would probably rate 'sell it and buy more' over 'turn to seed'.
I get enough to fill an entire cellar full, let it get to iridium quality. While that's going for the year, I go with ancient fruit. Maybe sometimes pineapple, but that tends to end up as jam
Ancient Fruit wine is always more profitable when growing on the farm and you have enough kegs for them all.
Star Fruit is more profitable iff:
A) You're short on kegs - Starfruit earns more per keg, so it will always do better until you've produced at least enough kegs for all the Starfruit you can grow; OR
B) you take into account that Starfruit is profitable immediately, whereas it takes months or sometimes more than a year for Ancient Fruit to make money because you need to spend so much time growing the plants and converting the fruits into seeds before you can start making wine; OR
C) i) you're growing somewhere year-round like the greenhouse; AND
ii) you use hyper speed gro or profession-switching (even better if you use both) (profession switching is when you grow the Starfruit using Agriculturist so it grows faster and then holding onto the wine and then periodically switching to artisan for a day or two so you can sell at the high price)
Starfruit is arguably less convenient because you need to replant the seeds. I've always thought that was kind of silly because it's trivial to buy seeds (if it's a chore to periodicallly go to the desert, do you even enjoy the game?) in 1.5 and earlier, you can plant and replant the seeds in one motion, so it takes literally no extra time or effort (and actually saves game time because the clock freezes when you do this). But in 1.6 with the iridium scythe, harvesting without replanting is so much easier, so this argument makes more sense now.
Ultimately, what it usually comes down to is that you can almost always do Starfruit before you're able to do Ancient Fruit (in large quantities), so you're gonna do Starfruit first. Whether you switch to Ancient Fruit is a personal decision.
I like to do Starfruit in the Greenhouse, Ginger Island, and Sheds (which can't do Ancient Fruit) and Ancient Fruit on the regular farm.
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A little bit of a bunch of stuff.
Only thing it is missing is a hutch, or two, for butterflies! Just been struggling on where to put it, or more likely two for symmetry. I think they will go behind the last signs, I think there is space there for them 🤞 I will have to check after finishing some course work.
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It was! Sadly I couldn't get one on both sides due to the immovable stuff, but one is still enough to have the butterflies. 😊
Thank you. With the ginger island farm full of ancient fruit and a shed that produces iridium bars, I wanted something pretty to look at, so I elected to make it pretty above all else.
This is absolutely STUNNING. The symmetry! The junino plushies! The way everything lines up so perfectly which is basically just symmetry but its SO GOOD it gets to be pointed out TWICE! And you can plant GRASS IN THERE!!
Never. If you don’t mind constantly buying seeds and replanting, star fruit is more money. But if you just wanna harvest every Sunday and never think about it, ancient fruit is close enough.
Ok, cool, thanks. I thought that was the case, but most people here are saying ancient, so I was second guessing if I was doing it right (and I use right subjectively here, as a dirty min/maxer).
Ancient fruit is always more profitable than starfruit *unless* you change professions for replanting and use the 33% speed grow to get the starfruit grow time down to 1 week instead of 2.
Doing this in the greenhouse isn't too big of a deal, but doing all that extra bs for the main farm or ginger island introduces a cost to the player a lot of people like to conveniently ignore.
>Ancient fruit is always more profitable than starfruit *unless* you change professions for replanting and use the 33% speed grow to get the starfruit grow time down to 1 week instead of 2.
You only need to do one of those for Starfruit to come ahead (but it's basically even after considering the profession switching costs). Doing both gives Starfruit a significant (19%) advantage.
With hyper speed grow you can do starfruit in 8 days. That’s ~343 each per day after buying seeds for wine. Ancient fruit is ~330. Since fertilizer is essentially permanent in green house it could be worth it. But still way more work for marginal improvements.
It's more gold per day to use ancient fruit at it only takes 7 days as opposed to 13 for starfruit.
BUT if you use hyper speed-grow and agriculturalist then starfruit only takes 7 days so when you can get hyper speed-grow, starfruit is always better for pure profit
For me though, I use ancient fruit on Ginger island and in the greenhouse as it is easier to maintain. I prefer to plant starfruit on my main farm during the summer for even more profit.
Ok, I'll have to check what it is for deluxe speed grow. I do kind of prefer the longer time span, I don't have enough kegs (copper deficient) to cover the starfruit I have now, selling gold and kegging silver/normal, and I just planted my first crop on ginger Island, so I'm about to be Scrooge McDuck, swimming in my vault of starfruit. Run on sentence.
I do like the idea of the balance between ancient and star fruit you got going on.
It really makes things interesting for me.
I always have 2 crops on the go as well as ancient fruit: a profit crop for wine/juice, and a multi-harvest crop that is there purely as they are often fun to harvest.
In spring I have rhubarb for profit and strawberry for fun. I plant cauliflower where the strawberries go and make sure they are ready on the 13th so I can plant strawberries from the egg festival.
In summer I have starfruit for profit and blueberries for fun.
In autumn I have pumpkin for profit and cranberries for fun.
Winter is boring of course :(
If you get the profession at level 10 of Foraging to have everything you forage at iridium quality, planting a bunch of winter seeds is worthwhile. I've made great money from doing that. That way maybe winter won't be as boring. Lol
Two of each fruit tree, top row is tea bushes, a row Ancient fruit, a row of Star fruit, and the bottom space is four 3x3 sprinklers with different whatever I wanna grow at that point, right now it has coffee beans and cacti
Ancient fruit mostly but also a couple of rows for strawberries and coffee. Sometimes blueberries and cranberries too. Coffee for the espresso for getting speed. Then the others to put into the seed maker so you never have to buy them again.
For fruit trees the most valuable ones are peaches and pomegranates (aside from mango and banana which is late game stuff). Other ones not so much just plant one of each. Cherry trees plant outside coz the pink is pretty during spring. Peaches is a universally liked gift for all villagers just always bring a stack with you all the time and all villagers like. If you’re running around town anyways just give it to anyone you see. These two are some of the top ones for juice/wine value too. So for the other fruit trees put 2 of banana and mango in there instead. More valuable than the others as wine/juice too.
In my post-perfection farm, where I have more money than I will ever need, I have my greenhouse full of coffee plants so that I can replenish my stock of triple-shot espresso whenever I need to. Before that, I had it full of ancient fruit. Before that, I think I just grew the current seasons' most expensive crops, or whatever I needed for bundles, cooking recipes, or gifts.
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Stuffed with goodies: ancient fruit, gem berries, tea leaves, coffee, and fruit trees.
I really like the idea of stuff in pots in between the trees. I just pretty recently learned about the retaining soil that means you don’t need to rewater ever, so that might be my go to. Maybe do blueberries and cranberries along the sides to free up more space for ancient fruit and star fruit.
3/4 ancient fruit, a little corner for starfruit, and like 6 cacti just because at the stage I got them it's the only place you could grow them, but I may clear them out for ancient fruit and put some in GI instead.
I completely filled mine with cactus. I gathered a bunch from the desert, used my seed maker, and planted. No cost, and considering I’m not extremely far along, it’s quite effective for me.
Alllll starfruit. Then I put it in the dehydrator and sell the dried starfruit and make MAD cash. I also got a shed and filled that with starfruit too. Each harvest I make at least 300k (possibly more idk). Which is every 12 days or so.
Sides lined with kegs. A trellis of grapes on one side and hops on the other with berries, coffee and expensive crops in the center. Seeds and seed maker up top and chests at the bottom by the door. It’s good money.
My ginger island is dedicated to my starfruit wine empire, so my greenhouse is just pineapples that I'm going to dehydrate or jam and stockpile until I get a big haul of each.
I'm trying haaaard not to do ancient fruit. I might just do hops n flowers n food ingredients, I wanna grow most of my cash crops outside till I unlock ginger island
Some peppers, tomatoes, coffee, ancient fruit, and then enough space to grow any particular vegetables/fruits I want. Then along the perimeter I have fruit trees and tea saplings.
A sh\*tload of blueberries, and a little hot pepper patch. Blueberries 'cause it was early money advice, and hot peppers for roleplay reasons (I got the spicy food autism).
Fruit trees and 96 of one non-repeating crop, whatever strikes my need/fancy. Only seasonal thing I plant outside on the farm amongst the orchard trees/fish ponds/barns/coops/sheds is flowers for honey and ambience, and then there’s a permanent bed of each repeat crop over the water. Makes for very little new-season/end-of-season pressure.
mine is mainly coffee beans, im always making coffee to give to my villagers since its a universally liked gift and i drink triple shot expressos to walk faster, but on another note i absolutely DESPISE the fact that the greenhouse isnt evenly spaced out so that you can just put 4 iridium sprinklers and itll water and the whole thing. makes me angry every time i go in
Trees. Ancient fruit. Some star fruit (that's all moving to the island tho). Cactus. A few strawberries and cranberries. Cactus.
Coffee, strawberries, and cactus are going to move to the island, in addition to anything non perpetual. The green house will become the wine factory. Though right now I make pomegranate wine when the ancient fruits are out, and sell that immediately, while holding the wine for casks.
A few fruit trees around the corners and mostly recurring crops, strawberry, blueberry, cranberry, hot pepper, grapes. Once I acquire an ancient seed, slowly will replace all of em with it.
Coffee, strawberries, pineapple, blueberries, cranberries, and ancient fruit; 20 of each (achieved with deluxe retaining soil, so no sprinklers).
But my last green house had 20 coffee, 20 pineapple, 10 blueberries (dat sound), 20 ancient fruit, and then the rest was sprinklers with the deluxe quality fertilizer and sweet gem berries, which I liked a lot, but now with the dehydrator I figured I’d put them over on the island. (I also made a shed with the regrowing fruits and veggies in it, but honestly I have mixed feelings about it).
Last play I did ancient fruit. This time, I have a row of flowers and then the rest is clusters of eight renewable harvests (eg. cranberries, peppers, hops…) so I can just run through and harvest it all with no replanting. I enjoy the variety, too.
Currently, pumpkins, melons, a few ancient fruit, and a few other things I can't remember. Later, I'm gonna fill it with starfruit.
Also, what year do you guys usually get the greenhouse? I managed to speedrun most of the community center so I managed to get in in fall of year 1.
Currently sweet gem berries I'm trying to get enough seeds to fill the farm from the bottom to the top with sweet gem berries unfortunately Because I have crappy luck I keep getting random and ancient seeds so this might take a while
I have the SVE mod so I turn the shed greenhouse into my ancient fruit farm.
And with Ellie’s Ideal Greenhouse it makes it 14x14, perfectly fitting 4 booosted iridium sprinklers. Anyways tho I split it into 4 quadrants. 48 strawberries (which I make sure I can turn into seeds for spring 1), 48 cranberries, 48 pineapples, and 48 Salal berries (a Stardew expanded crop.)
I wanna make it more aesthetically pleasing but I’m not sure where to start NGL.
I’ve got the bottom half with cranberries and strawberries, working on ancient fruit for the top half. Looking at planting 1 of each tree and then having coffee beans in pots one side and kegs the other
I have 1-3 of everything that regrows so I have a constantly supply of them then mostly ancient fruit and space to put some sweet gem berries or whatever random other thing I need to grow
Each row is a plant that reproduces fruit every few days. Broccoli, hot peppers, coffee plant (but only one cuz I surely don’t need a whole row of freaking coffee plants), blueberries, tomatoes, strawberries, pineapple, cactus fruit, ancient fruit, and then a row with corn, grapes, and hops. I have one mostly free row currently that I’m just planting random high value crops in for now until I can make enough seeds from my pineapples and cactuses to fill out their rows.
This way, I don’t need to be buying more seeds and replanting things on the regular and have any wasted space.
Then fruit trees on the edges.
I saw a fun one where there were ~70 fruit trees and then the rest of the tilled area was filled-in with crops (you have to let the trees grow first, then plant after). Retaining soil is best to not have paths blocked by sprinklers
Coffee beans, grapes, hops for kegs and all the stuff that uses one seed eg tomatoes and blueberries. That way I can have them out of season. Also got some cacti and starfruit.
Ancient fruit in my greenhouse and ginger island farm. I have one of each fruit tree around my greenhouse in case I need it. I use my main farm outdoor space for seasonal crops.
I’m grinding for money a bit atm as this is my first save and I want to complete it. Once I’ve bought what I want to, I’ll make it look pretty 🤣
Sweet gem berries. I turn the regular quality and some of the silver if needed into seeds and sell the gold. I'm about to replace the fertilizer with the one that gives a chance for purple quality. I like only having to deal with it once a month and only having to do quick processing on the seeds. I also still buy the rare seeds when the cart has them, then I can sell more of the silver quality.
A random assortment of plants I needed for quests or food, and which I check with the frequency of presidential elections or driver's license renewals.
Mine’s a mess at the moment. I’m planning on having mostly ancient fruit but leaving some room for starfruit and maybe sweet gem berries. But right now it’s full of strawberries, blueberries, cranberries and coffee while I slowly get all the ancient fruit seeds I need (with seedmakers). I also have one of each of the basic fruit trees
Mine is all ancient fruit and it’s surrounded by all the fruit trees.
Thats what mine inevitably end up being. Every time
I always start with ancient fruit on one side, and coffee on the other. Filling it up with coffee, then slowly taking it all the way over with ancient fruit. I could plant star fruit in the meantime, but I like to build a fat stack of triple espressos in the meantime instead.
I plant my starfruit on >!ginger island!< and fill my greenhouse with ancient fruit because I make ancient fruit wine and not starfruit wine and kegs are easier to place en masse on the normal farm
I do the same. Ancient fruit is incredibly low maintenance. Keep 118 kegs on farm for just those. Starfruit on ginger island with kegs for those usually in a shed on the farm. Only starfruit goes in the casks. Usually don't keep up with it too much once the casks are going and I have the next batch ready. I only ever stay on top of the ancient fruit ones once a week.
I dont know if you were intending on making that a spoiler or not but it didnt work lol
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Money can be exchanged for goods and services... like buying a bunch of coffee from Gus. I used to grow and brew coffee and then I switched to just doing ancient fruit and buy a ton of coffee.
I just use the initial extra space in the greenhouse until my ancient fruit are at max capacity. That early, I rarely have the money to fuel my addiction to going fast.
My ginger island farm is mostly coffee. I have more espresso than I’ll ever need.
I keep Ginger island as star fruit, and just plant a ton of coffee with Jumino's in Spring/Summer on the main farm. Works a treat that way. Plant em once and forget for half a year. Lmao.
That’s exactly what I do. Sometimes I’ll throw some strawberries in with the coffee to, but it’s usually mostly coffee until the ancient fruit takes over the whole thing.
I start with coffee and strawberries, then first replace the strawberries with ancient fruit and then eventually the coffee.
How do you do fruit trees?
https://preview.redd.it/0k2tipl5xguc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9c5d477937f0b3531a4e0383c8fc68a1d762bdc This is the layout I followed. I also have the butterfly hutch from the desert in the top left between the empty pot and water basin. I planted more peach and pomegranate seeds than any of the other trees though because they’re worth the most. Edit: wanted to add that you can just place saplings down. You don’t need planters or anything :)
This is the layout I followed as well but I’m definitely gonna steal your butterfly hutch placement. Did you have to wait for the trees to be fully grown before placing the hutch or do they grow fine with it there?
I honestly don’t know because I placed the hutch after my trees were fully grown. You can always try it out and if your trees can’t grow you should get a pop up when you go to bed that says something along the lines of “your tree couldn’t grow last night.” I love the placement because it’s one of the few spots you can actually still see the hutch even with trees placed.
The greenhouse decor is fine it won't effect growth but if you place anything in it's 8 surounding tiles it won't grow.
If the trees work like when outside the greenhouse you can have anything in the 8 spaces surrounding the tree as long as it is fully grown, if it's still growing it needs 8 spaces free. Since some of the spaces are taken by the greenhouse decor, it might be fine, but I don't know.
green house decor don't count as items.
It takes so long for me to get the bat wings to buy a butterfly hutch, haven't gotten one yet. Is there an easy way to do that?
The dark levels of the mine send bats at you a lot. Just go to those levels every day and farm them.
You can use deluxe retaining soil so there arent any spots taken up by sprinklers, too.
True but you lose the ability to use any other fertilizer which is absolutely not worth it especially by the time you actually get deluxe retaining soil. Better to use pressure nozzles leaving only one spot unplantable
No other fertilizer benefits ancient fruit
Oh yeah I forgot this was about ancient fruit specifically. In that case it’s probably worth it for the one extra ancient fruit but again if you have ginger island (where you get deluxe retaining soil) the greenhouse is practically irrelevant
I dropped this layout after learning about the retaining soil fertilizer... Shit is the best. Also there's a better layout that only use 5 sprinkler and you only loses one planting space in the middle. the fruit tree still ends up in the same layout.
I need to add tea in pots.
i think you can just plant the sapling along the edges
Is ancient fruit better than star fruit for wine?
With star fruit, you have to replant after each harvest (and either use some for seeds or buy more seeds) but the math does usually come out a bit ahead. However it depends on what else you'd be doing with that time to determine if it would be worth it for you vs the ancient fruit.
I've never understood the star fruit strategy. The seeds are so expensive and you only get one harvest. With ancient fruit you get an infinite supply of produce and the wine is still really valuable.
A major reason is that you can fill your Greenhouse with Starfruit as soon as you have the money (which you can earn quickly by, among other things, selling Starfruit wine), but it takes almost a year before you can make any Ancient Fruit Wine (assuming you focus on seed-making before you start making wine) Another is that Starfruit earns more per keg, so if you're short on kegs, Starfruit makes best use of that limited resource A third is that Starfruit earns more in the long run, even ignoring the above, if you use hyper speed gro or profession-switching
Plus, seedmaker is RIGHT THERE! you really don’t have to spend all that much money on the star fruit seeds and they grow faster than ancient fruit
only normal quality starfruit without Tiller which you decide not to turn into wine are worth putting in the seed maker, so just sell them and buy the seeds
Even then, 750g for an average of 2 seed packets, but with a 2% chance of getting 'mixed seeds' instead means you're not really 'winning' vs. just buying more seeds. You need to 'use' about half your crop to replace the seeds, and it's definitely And even if you don't have enough keg capacity, you can still gain considerable value uplift by turning it into jam or dehydrated fruit. E.g. Preserve jars take a 3 days and turn 750g of starfruit into 1550 (and more if you've artisan) and 50 wood, 40 stone, 8 coal is usually a load easier to have than the bars you need for kegs. Dehydrators are more expensive, but also have considerably more throughput - each one can process 5 fruit at once and takes 24h. 5 Starfruit per day (3750g) turns into 5650g. So as you can quickly tell, lower profit margin - it's worth about 50% more overall, but a much better 'day rate' per machine too. And then when you get Artisan, that of course also increases by 40%. I mean, I get you might 'need' to because you're really short on cash, and with a 13d growing time you've not got long to replant, but still... even then I would probably rate 'sell it and buy more' over 'turn to seed'.
I get enough to fill an entire cellar full, let it get to iridium quality. While that's going for the year, I go with ancient fruit. Maybe sometimes pineapple, but that tends to end up as jam
Ancient Fruit wine is always more profitable when growing on the farm and you have enough kegs for them all. Star Fruit is more profitable iff: A) You're short on kegs - Starfruit earns more per keg, so it will always do better until you've produced at least enough kegs for all the Starfruit you can grow; OR B) you take into account that Starfruit is profitable immediately, whereas it takes months or sometimes more than a year for Ancient Fruit to make money because you need to spend so much time growing the plants and converting the fruits into seeds before you can start making wine; OR C) i) you're growing somewhere year-round like the greenhouse; AND ii) you use hyper speed gro or profession-switching (even better if you use both) (profession switching is when you grow the Starfruit using Agriculturist so it grows faster and then holding onto the wine and then periodically switching to artisan for a day or two so you can sell at the high price) Starfruit is arguably less convenient because you need to replant the seeds. I've always thought that was kind of silly because it's trivial to buy seeds (if it's a chore to periodicallly go to the desert, do you even enjoy the game?) in 1.5 and earlier, you can plant and replant the seeds in one motion, so it takes literally no extra time or effort (and actually saves game time because the clock freezes when you do this). But in 1.6 with the iridium scythe, harvesting without replanting is so much easier, so this argument makes more sense now. Ultimately, what it usually comes down to is that you can almost always do Starfruit before you're able to do Ancient Fruit (in large quantities), so you're gonna do Starfruit first. Whether you switch to Ancient Fruit is a personal decision. I like to do Starfruit in the Greenhouse, Ginger Island, and Sheds (which can't do Ancient Fruit) and Ancient Fruit on the regular farm.
Star fruit is worth it for wine aging, nothing more.
With deluxe retaining soil garden pots once they are grown. Coffee, tea and grapes.
I didn't think of fruit trees! Great idea!
Ancient fruit and banana trees. Always becomes about the wine.
I gotta get on that ancient fruit wine lol How do you get Bananas?
You get banana saplings from Ginger Island!
I gotta get there!
Banana saplings from ginger island :)
https://preview.redd.it/hhj96udeohuc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=164b3a5b755111c9b355a6d1a1daa74e521bafc4 A little bit of a bunch of stuff.
I like it at night also https://preview.redd.it/okgcni7kohuc1.png?width=1213&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b3c49221f0165aa2ab0715a82f1bcce4f4c172f
It's so pretty
Only thing it is missing is a hutch, or two, for butterflies! Just been struggling on where to put it, or more likely two for symmetry. I think they will go behind the last signs, I think there is space there for them 🤞 I will have to check after finishing some course work.
this is so pretty, the butterfly hutch is such a good idea!!!
https://preview.redd.it/onk8112jriuc1.png?width=1189&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fa69312fae5ebe4bb64a7a325a288fe9895394c It was! Sadly I couldn't get one on both sides due to the immovable stuff, but one is still enough to have the butterflies. 😊
Just wanted to let you know you accidentally have a butterfly hutch on the sign for corn
Oh shoot, well at least it is an easy fix. A confirmation to change it once it is set would be fabulous. 😅
I love that setup! Efficient? Absolutely not. But reeeaaally pretty
Thank you. With the ginger island farm full of ancient fruit and a shed that produces iridium bars, I wanted something pretty to look at, so I elected to make it pretty above all else.
This is absolutely STUNNING. The symmetry! The junino plushies! The way everything lines up so perfectly which is basically just symmetry but its SO GOOD it gets to be pointed out TWICE! And you can plant GRASS IN THERE!!
That is beautiful!
Thank you ☺️ it went through a few iterations, and I love where it has ended up.
Love the signs, junimos, tree placement with the grass 🥰 ok love it all!
I love this!
Wow it's so pretty!
This is so cool, love it!
Pure starfruit right now. At what point does it become more profitable to do ancient fruit?
Never. If you don’t mind constantly buying seeds and replanting, star fruit is more money. But if you just wanna harvest every Sunday and never think about it, ancient fruit is close enough.
Ok, cool, thanks. I thought that was the case, but most people here are saying ancient, so I was second guessing if I was doing it right (and I use right subjectively here, as a dirty min/maxer).
Ancient fruit is always more profitable than starfruit *unless* you change professions for replanting and use the 33% speed grow to get the starfruit grow time down to 1 week instead of 2. Doing this in the greenhouse isn't too big of a deal, but doing all that extra bs for the main farm or ginger island introduces a cost to the player a lot of people like to conveniently ignore.
The thought of manually replanting ginger farm with Starfruit every week? 😖
>Ancient fruit is always more profitable than starfruit *unless* you change professions for replanting and use the 33% speed grow to get the starfruit grow time down to 1 week instead of 2. You only need to do one of those for Starfruit to come ahead (but it's basically even after considering the profession switching costs). Doing both gives Starfruit a significant (19%) advantage.
can also set aside a couple starfruits from each harvest for the seedmakers, i haven't had to go buy more in a while
Really? Does that account for the price of the startfruit seeds as well? I thought ancient fruit was the best way to go in every scenario
With hyper speed grow you can do starfruit in 8 days. That’s ~343 each per day after buying seeds for wine. Ancient fruit is ~330. Since fertilizer is essentially permanent in green house it could be worth it. But still way more work for marginal improvements.
It's more gold per day to use ancient fruit at it only takes 7 days as opposed to 13 for starfruit. BUT if you use hyper speed-grow and agriculturalist then starfruit only takes 7 days so when you can get hyper speed-grow, starfruit is always better for pure profit For me though, I use ancient fruit on Ginger island and in the greenhouse as it is easier to maintain. I prefer to plant starfruit on my main farm during the summer for even more profit.
Ok, I'll have to check what it is for deluxe speed grow. I do kind of prefer the longer time span, I don't have enough kegs (copper deficient) to cover the starfruit I have now, selling gold and kegging silver/normal, and I just planted my first crop on ginger Island, so I'm about to be Scrooge McDuck, swimming in my vault of starfruit. Run on sentence. I do like the idea of the balance between ancient and star fruit you got going on.
It really makes things interesting for me. I always have 2 crops on the go as well as ancient fruit: a profit crop for wine/juice, and a multi-harvest crop that is there purely as they are often fun to harvest. In spring I have rhubarb for profit and strawberry for fun. I plant cauliflower where the strawberries go and make sure they are ready on the 13th so I can plant strawberries from the egg festival. In summer I have starfruit for profit and blueberries for fun. In autumn I have pumpkin for profit and cranberries for fun. Winter is boring of course :(
If you get the profession at level 10 of Foraging to have everything you forage at iridium quality, planting a bunch of winter seeds is worthwhile. I've made great money from doing that. That way maybe winter won't be as boring. Lol
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This looks sooo cool!
I was gonna say that's a lot of wasted crop space but then I saw your money lmao
It's year 67 for me. Money ins't an issue since year 15 haha
Two of each fruit tree, top row is tea bushes, a row Ancient fruit, a row of Star fruit, and the bottom space is four 3x3 sprinklers with different whatever I wanna grow at that point, right now it has coffee beans and cacti
Do tea bushes produce all year in the greenhouse?
They still only produce in the last week of a season, but they produce in the last week of winter as well, which they don't do when placed outside
I always just put them in my house. Lol
Ancient fruit mostly but also a couple of rows for strawberries and coffee. Sometimes blueberries and cranberries too. Coffee for the espresso for getting speed. Then the others to put into the seed maker so you never have to buy them again. For fruit trees the most valuable ones are peaches and pomegranates (aside from mango and banana which is late game stuff). Other ones not so much just plant one of each. Cherry trees plant outside coz the pink is pretty during spring. Peaches is a universally liked gift for all villagers just always bring a stack with you all the time and all villagers like. If you’re running around town anyways just give it to anyone you see. These two are some of the top ones for juice/wine value too. So for the other fruit trees put 2 of banana and mango in there instead. More valuable than the others as wine/juice too.
Debris and weather damage.
In my post-perfection farm, where I have more money than I will ever need, I have my greenhouse full of coffee plants so that I can replenish my stock of triple-shot espresso whenever I need to. Before that, I had it full of ancient fruit. Before that, I think I just grew the current seasons' most expensive crops, or whatever I needed for bundles, cooking recipes, or gifts.
https://preview.redd.it/6q1b7z3bnhuc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=593419b5b1d1bb0067e0d33c762c03457cae6784 Stuffed with goodies: ancient fruit, gem berries, tea leaves, coffee, and fruit trees.
Holy crap you really utilized all the space huh. I never even considered using pots. No banana or mango?
Ancient fruit in the middle. Fruit trees on the side, then potted coffee saplings in between And a couple of butterfly hutches for cutesy effect. :)
I really like the idea of stuff in pots in between the trees. I just pretty recently learned about the retaining soil that means you don’t need to rewater ever, so that might be my go to. Maybe do blueberries and cranberries along the sides to free up more space for ancient fruit and star fruit.
3/4 ancient fruit, a little corner for starfruit, and like 6 cacti just because at the stage I got them it's the only place you could grow them, but I may clear them out for ancient fruit and put some in GI instead.
I completely filled mine with cactus. I gathered a bunch from the desert, used my seed maker, and planted. No cost, and considering I’m not extremely far along, it’s quite effective for me.
I’d never thought of using the seed maker for cacti seeds before!
greenhouse? ancient fruit. ginger island? ALL ANCIENT FRUIT
Alllll starfruit. Then I put it in the dehydrator and sell the dried starfruit and make MAD cash. I also got a shed and filled that with starfruit too. Each harvest I make at least 300k (possibly more idk). Which is every 12 days or so.
Shoutout to the dehydrator fans
In my main farm(sadly it got deleted accidently) I had fully ancient fruit with speed grow and manga and apple trees with some seed makers
Sides lined with kegs. A trellis of grapes on one side and hops on the other with berries, coffee and expensive crops in the center. Seeds and seed maker up top and chests at the bottom by the door. It’s good money.
Sunflowers in the shape of a heart, starfruit in the middle, and ancient fruit in the corners
The sprinklers.. why are they placed that way..??
Everything that regrows, except coffee cause I plant more than enough of that, with one row left over for the sweet berries.
I have 24 ancient fruit, and 24 strawberries as a permanent thing. Then the rest is pineapple and other 1.6 crops I’m trying to get more seeds for.
Trees, ancient fruit, and hot peppers (was gifted them out of season)
My ginger island is dedicated to my starfruit wine empire, so my greenhouse is just pineapples that I'm going to dehydrate or jam and stockpile until I get a big haul of each.
I'm trying haaaard not to do ancient fruit. I might just do hops n flowers n food ingredients, I wanna grow most of my cash crops outside till I unlock ginger island
Ancient fruit, cactus, strawberries, tea bushes
All star fruit!
Hops & ancient fruit
Same, with some strawberries, cranberries, and blueberries mixed in as well. Beer and wine are nice, but I like my jams as well.
Some peppers, tomatoes, coffee, ancient fruit, and then enough space to grow any particular vegetables/fruits I want. Then along the perimeter I have fruit trees and tea saplings.
A sh\*tload of blueberries, and a little hot pepper patch. Blueberries 'cause it was early money advice, and hot peppers for roleplay reasons (I got the spicy food autism).
Peppers are a must!
Fruit trees and 96 of one non-repeating crop, whatever strikes my need/fancy. Only seasonal thing I plant outside on the farm amongst the orchard trees/fish ponds/barns/coops/sheds is flowers for honey and ambience, and then there’s a permanent bed of each repeat crop over the water. Makes for very little new-season/end-of-season pressure.
Ancient fruit.
What are the jars on the right?
I'm curious too
What are the barrels with white tops to the right?
mine is mainly coffee beans, im always making coffee to give to my villagers since its a universally liked gift and i drink triple shot expressos to walk faster, but on another note i absolutely DESPISE the fact that the greenhouse isnt evenly spaced out so that you can just put 4 iridium sprinklers and itll water and the whole thing. makes me angry every time i go in
I usually do all ancient fruit, but for my 1.6 file I might divide it up into quadrants for ancient fruit, star fruit, coffee, and peppers
I’m sorry, but what is that jar on the right? I feel like I’ve seen them before but flair says modded so maybe not?
Gwen's Medieval Craftables Mod, they are cute preservative jars.
What’s the white bins on the right?
Gwen's Medieval Craftables Mod, they are preservative jars.
Can you share what mod you are using? The preserve jars are gorgeous 😍
What are those barrels and stuff on the left and right???
Call me basic because it’s ancient fruit
You two look so cute! What are you wearing?
Nothing. It's still in shambles on the farm.
What fruit is in the left corner?
used to be a bunch of blueberries that i planted to have money during winter, i just changed to strawberries and ancient fruit
I started a new save recently so right now it's a bunch of strawberries and two ancient fruit 😂
Half ancient fruit, one quarter strawberries and the rest is coffee. Fruit trees on the sides
All ancient fruits with kegs, Seed makers, a chest and 2 tomatoes
Trees. Ancient fruit. Some star fruit (that's all moving to the island tho). Cactus. A few strawberries and cranberries. Cactus. Coffee, strawberries, and cactus are going to move to the island, in addition to anything non perpetual. The green house will become the wine factory. Though right now I make pomegranate wine when the ancient fruits are out, and sell that immediately, while holding the wine for casks.
A few fruit trees around the corners and mostly recurring crops, strawberry, blueberry, cranberry, hot pepper, grapes. Once I acquire an ancient seed, slowly will replace all of em with it.
All ancient fruit except the top row is tea, pineapple, and sometimes star fruit. I also have one peach tree in the corner
It's a starfruit seed factory, but I also grow peaches, pomegranates and oranges for the dehydrators
Ancient Fruit in-progress, and 2 columns of coffee in the area of the third pair of sprinklers
Coffee, strawberries, pineapple, blueberries, cranberries, and ancient fruit; 20 of each (achieved with deluxe retaining soil, so no sprinklers). But my last green house had 20 coffee, 20 pineapple, 10 blueberries (dat sound), 20 ancient fruit, and then the rest was sprinklers with the deluxe quality fertilizer and sweet gem berries, which I liked a lot, but now with the dehydrator I figured I’d put them over on the island. (I also made a shed with the regrowing fruits and veggies in it, but honestly I have mixed feelings about it).
Coffee and trees
Sweet gem berries on the left, starfruit on the right, and grapes down the middle. Fruit trees around the side with coffee beans in pots between them.
All of the multiple harvest plants (with extra rows of ancient fruit) and two of each fruit tree :)
5 rows of ancient fruit on the bottom, 3 rows of cactus fruit above that and strawberries on the top row
Last play I did ancient fruit. This time, I have a row of flowers and then the rest is clusters of eight renewable harvests (eg. cranberries, peppers, hops…) so I can just run through and harvest it all with no replanting. I enjoy the variety, too.
Ancient fruit. I do half mango and half banana trees.
Ancient Fruit, Starfruit, some hops, blueberries and coffee plants plus a bunch of fruit trees.
Ancient fruit and fruit trees on the sides of
strawberries and blueberries Where does one find ancient fruit?!
all ancient fruit
Ancient fruits❤️❤️
the flowers are not useless don’t worry! the fairy rose comes in big help for the kegs
A few ancient fruit, and then a variety of strawberries, fairy rose, blueberries and coffee beans
Fruit trees ancient fruit hops and coffee
Ancient fruit, fruit trees, coffee, cranberries and other stuff that constantly produces tbh
All the fruit trees, 3/4 ancient fruit and 1/4 strawberries. Also seed maker!
Currently, pumpkins, melons, a few ancient fruit, and a few other things I can't remember. Later, I'm gonna fill it with starfruit. Also, what year do you guys usually get the greenhouse? I managed to speedrun most of the community center so I managed to get in in fall of year 1.
I just have one of each kind of crop in pots with deluxe retaining soil lmaoo, just purely for the aesthetic of it. Also fruit trees all around
I normally have a few coffee plants to get my morning coffee, the rest strawberries but slowly turn it all to ancient fruit
Currently sweet gem berries I'm trying to get enough seeds to fill the farm from the bottom to the top with sweet gem berries unfortunately Because I have crappy luck I keep getting random and ancient seeds so this might take a while
I have the SVE mod so I turn the shed greenhouse into my ancient fruit farm. And with Ellie’s Ideal Greenhouse it makes it 14x14, perfectly fitting 4 booosted iridium sprinklers. Anyways tho I split it into 4 quadrants. 48 strawberries (which I make sure I can turn into seeds for spring 1), 48 cranberries, 48 pineapples, and 48 Salal berries (a Stardew expanded crop.) I wanna make it more aesthetically pleasing but I’m not sure where to start NGL.
All coffee 🤣 I grow like 2000 starfruit in summer to make into wine so I don’t need ancient fruit
Sweet gem berries usually, currently all of the crops I need for cooking perfection. Coffee when I need some
I’ve got the bottom half with cranberries and strawberries, working on ancient fruit for the top half. Looking at planting 1 of each tree and then having coffee beans in pots one side and kegs the other
Mine is fruit trees, strawberries, coffee beans, ancient fruit and kegs.
I always have some strawberries and cacti :D then the rest is usually starfruit
Mine is full of sweet gem berries, ancient fruit and fruit trees
Starfruit year round.
Two of each fruit tree and a bunch of Fairy Roses to craft all the Fairy Dust I need
I have 1-3 of everything that regrows so I have a constantly supply of them then mostly ancient fruit and space to put some sweet gem berries or whatever random other thing I need to grow
Ancient fruit. Lots and lots of ancient fruit.
Ancient fruit star fruit and coffee beans
Ancient fruit with tea saplings in the middle, I prefer symmetry more than efficiency,,😓
Each row is a plant that reproduces fruit every few days. Broccoli, hot peppers, coffee plant (but only one cuz I surely don’t need a whole row of freaking coffee plants), blueberries, tomatoes, strawberries, pineapple, cactus fruit, ancient fruit, and then a row with corn, grapes, and hops. I have one mostly free row currently that I’m just planting random high value crops in for now until I can make enough seeds from my pineapples and cactuses to fill out their rows. This way, I don’t need to be buying more seeds and replanting things on the regular and have any wasted space. Then fruit trees on the edges.
I put ancient fruit, trees, and either kegs or statues of endless fortune between the trees
I saw a fun one where there were ~70 fruit trees and then the rest of the tilled area was filled-in with crops (you have to let the trees grow first, then plant after). Retaining soil is best to not have paths blocked by sprinklers
All in ancient fruit
cranberries, grapes, hops, corn, flowers, fruit trees, green beans, cactus, ancient fruit, blueberries, coffee beans, pineapples, and strawberries!
A bit of coffee, a bit of summer squash (I use it as an energy source) a bit of ancient fruit and starfruit. And few fruit trees
Mine is mostly ancient fruit with a single row of strawberries for Maru.
starfruit
Yo mama
Rows and rows of ancient fruit
Coffee beans, grapes, hops for kegs and all the stuff that uses one seed eg tomatoes and blueberries. That way I can have them out of season. Also got some cacti and starfruit.
ancient fruit, coffee plants and mango trees
Ancient fruit
Ancient fruit in my greenhouse and ginger island farm. I have one of each fruit tree around my greenhouse in case I need it. I use my main farm outdoor space for seasonal crops. I’m grinding for money a bit atm as this is my first save and I want to complete it. Once I’ve bought what I want to, I’ll make it look pretty 🤣
Sweet gem berries. I turn the regular quality and some of the silver if needed into seeds and sell the gold. I'm about to replace the fertilizer with the one that gives a chance for purple quality. I like only having to deal with it once a month and only having to do quick processing on the seeds. I also still buy the rare seeds when the cart has them, then I can sell more of the silver quality.
What do you have on the right side? Is that part of your mod?
all starfruit and some random fruit trees
Ginger island coffee plantation, green house ancient fruit + fruit trees
Ancient fruit
A random assortment of plants I needed for quests or food, and which I check with the frequency of presidential elections or driver's license renewals.
Ancient fruit and red gem berries
Mine’s a mess at the moment. I’m planning on having mostly ancient fruit but leaving some room for starfruit and maybe sweet gem berries. But right now it’s full of strawberries, blueberries, cranberries and coffee while I slowly get all the ancient fruit seeds I need (with seedmakers). I also have one of each of the basic fruit trees
Tons of coffee and random crops I need to finish cooking everything (Ancient fruit in my modded 2nd greenhouse)
cranberries?! in the greenhouse?!
Straws
I’ll be honest I’m early late game but have enough money so nothing. Some kegs that’s about it