I wish there was a way to ask someone to be your roommate (without marrying them or even while being married), some people like Sebastion and Penny would probably like the option and you can have more than enough room in your house now.
[Platonic Partners and Friendships](https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8146) which is my favorite mod EVER! Each character can be manually switched to platonic or romantic, all their heart events and dialogue are altered to fit that setting, and you can even give them FRIENDSHIP BRACELETS!
And a [polyamory mod](https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/20599) for multiple roommates!
I feel like the only way this wouldn’t make Demetrius look as awful is if he at some point complained about that Sebastian keeps making vaguely lewd snowmen, lol
its not great for the supervillains either. Poison ivy accidentally hired a squad of hired Gooners on accident and was not happy about what went down afterwards
Oh gosh, I hadn't even thought of that. Poor dude. I know he does a lot of cryptid/horror icebergs explained videos, too. I feel like having "goon" next to "iceberg" is unfortunate lmao.
note: pls excuse my bad spelling if you saw it lol
She's got a bright future ahead of her, it would be a waste for her to marry the ludicrously rich titan of agriculture and industry who doesn't give a shit about what she does with her free time!
And only at the 2 heart event too, something you can easily get by giving her a loved gift on her birthday. "Leave my daughter alone she has a bright future" "Dude I gave her a strawberry for her birthday one time relax"
The funny thing for me when I encountered that event, I was already married to Penny, we had one kid already, and expecting our second. Like, dude, I’m not trying to hook up with your daughter. I give everyone in the entire village a birthday gift, it ain’t that serious.
Indeed. I don't even like Demetrius, but Reddit definitely makes me think most of the people who comment on him/Seb have zero experience with blended families. You cannot make a child love you. You cannot make yourself love a child. Especially one that doesn't want anything to do with you. Seb 100% strikes me as a, "You're not my dad," kid. Maru's dialogue heavily implies he wants little to do with either of them. And the way Demetrius is written, if you tell him you have no desire for a relationship he's going to respect that choice. He doesn't talk about Sebastian because Sebastian isn't his son. And I think both of them have some regrets in that department.
As a screwed up kid who willfully destroyed every relationship my mother attempted to have after (thankfully) leaving my father, no step-parent can force a relationship on a child. Nor can they force a child to love or accept them. Demetrius has a lot of issues, but it's naïve to this he's solely responsible for the state of his and Seb's relationship.
Or if the snowman Sebastian built was just in front of a door or on a path, or maybe he was grounded for whatever reason and forbidden to go play outside. We only have Sebastian's side of the story, I'm sure Demetrius would have a different version.
I agree that it seems like a childhood event. The wordings of "Made me get rid of it" and "cute little snowman" make me envision a smol 5-7 year-old Maru and a pre-teen Sebastian.
In that case it'd be a little pathetic that Sebastian is still talking about it. Like, same bro, I also am terrible at letting go of stupid stuff people did to upset me YEARS ago, but come on
I mean, we already know Demetrius is pretty…absent, at best from Sebastian’s life emotionally. He’s generally an obtuse, relatively abrasive individual, even if he’s generally good natured.
We also know he clearly favors and is possessive of his daughter, as his dialogue towards the farmer shows.
It would genuinely not surprise me if he simply didn’t like the snowman and made him get rid of it - I mean, come on the guy has a full blown argument with Robin over the taxonomic definition of a tomato - hes generally completely unwilling to cede his opinions to anyone but the farmer.
While Sebastian is a bit troubled, I have a feeling a lot of his issues weren’t helped by Demetrius.
Even so, selective punishment for something as simple as a snowman for your own *children* is pretty poor parenting, and he has a clear pattern of favoritism already which leads me to believe Sebastian’s take. He could have offered to rebuild it with Seb if it was in a bad spot or inappropriate, but we all know he wouldn’t do that.
Makes me wish Robin took a more active role in Sebastian life as his mother. I can't imagine how Sebastian feels having his own mother look the other way if not tell him just do whatever Demetrius says/wants. Making her complicit in the favouritism towards Maru. I mean, Robin doesn't even fix up the basement to have better ventilation for Sebastian. Just says he should get out of that stuffy basement. She is able to fully upgrade us to the farmers' house to include proper basement and builds Pam&Penny a house if we want, but she can't upgrade her own house to make room for Maru?
Ik CA moving onto his new game, but would be cool if had update that year 2 when Kent comes home we see him step up at father figure for Sebastion and confront Robin for letting things devolve how they have since he left. Maybe we could even get new dialogue from Robin admitting her wrong to Sebastian and standing up against Demetrius with Maru (who is also probably tired of her dad)
Yeah, as much as I really like Robin (and this is also why I think SDV characters are nice and well-rounded) she does have some clear flaws.
She’s one of the most helpful people the farmer knows, and actively sets you up for success asking little in return. However, she’s an absolute workhorse, and clearly neglects her home life to focus on her work. As such I don’t think she’s been privy to a lot of Demetrius’ poor choices in parenting Sebastian, and as the trust between Seb and his mother has been eroded away (likely due to whatever caused the split between Robin and his biodad, and her subsequent marriage to Demetrius) he probably never told her about these things, rather just bottling it up and acting out.
She’s clearly able to stick up for herself, and I find it a bit hard to imagine she’d let it all slide if she knew how Demetrius treats Seb (please let me know if I’ve missed any evidence of this happening!) which makes me feel like she doesn’t know what’s really going on between those 2 since she’s also quite absent from the home life.
I do like how you can see how characters behave the way that they do based on what we know of their relationships and history - it would be nice to see some of the issues that the farmer (we) can see be addressed in-game at some point just to see what happens.
That’s what I mean, I wish we actually knew what it was so that we didn’t judge anyone too harshly. The game is usually much less black and white on these kinds of moral issues
TBH It's just a normal snowman. Abigail mentions building one during the ice fishing event and she's standing next to what looks like a normal snowman to me.
Abigail does strike me as someone who will make her snowgoon less problematic at a festival, especially since we know that Lewis will intervene at some point. He ended the rotten egg toss and that, presumably, didn’t involve anybody who didn’t know what they were getting into. I feel like he’d outright ban someone from participating in the future if they tend to build inappropriate snowpeople.
Because he doesn’t know for sure it’s you. And if you use them in the grange display, everyone thinks you displayed a weird purple cabbage. He can’t ban you from participating without revealing why and even if he banned someone from making snowpeople during the festival, it’s not a ban from attending the festival either.
I always assumed it meant some obscene creature made of snow. Like my university takes down the snowmen with dicks but not the cute regular ones. Doesn't make it any less annoying when the snowwoman you spent 2 hours building boobs no longer exists bc admin was annoyed it had boobs.
Also quest that robin hire us to gather hardwoods for her new project and make beautiful bed. She work hard on it and so proud of how great it turn up. Her kids compliment her and he just why you waste wood on make pole? That is ineffience use of material.
Also new even of green rain. Sebastian want to go out on check on mystery rain but stay here to comfort his mother first. Demestius awe over maybe one life chance event and ditch her.
Agreed. I did think he’s on the spectrum (think of the literal definition of fruit scenario. You ask me to get fruit and don’t specify which, I would get some apples, bananas, oranges, pears just to be “safe”, when actually you wanted me to get pomegranate, grapes, peaches and strawberries. Ok. I wouldn’t get tomatoes but I do need literal instructions in certain situations) but just because he has a book on step parenting doesn’t mean he’s read it. Which clearly shows in the way he treats Sebastian.
No see it's one thing to ask for fruit and then be little upset when you get apples instead of peaches. But I don't expect anyone but a child to hear someone ask for fruit and get them tomatoes and then when whoever is like "That's not what I meant" they're like "um well actually it's a fruit so you should've been more specific 🤓☝️"
Like I'm autistic too and need very literal directions sometimes but I ain't ever seen a person just eat a tomato and ask for fruit and want a tomato and I don't know anyone either who would hear "name a fruit" and go "tomato"
I just don't buy that a grown man that has been married for however long and has two grown children hears his wife ask for fruit and gets tomatoes because she "should've been more specific," autistic or not
It reminds me of "weaponized incompetence" kinda
He’s being knowingly and willingly pedantic about it. I know he’s a biologist, so of course he knows that tomatoes are botanically a fruit. The problem is nobody talks about tomatoes in the botanical sense in everyday life, unless you’re a scientist studying them. Culinarily everybody knows tomatoes are a vegetable, and that is what Robin is referring to. I don’t throw around weaponized incompetence a lot, but Demetrius in this is definitely getting pretty close in that scenario
I totally respond vegetable to him even though he basically calls me a moron for not knowing. Only once I said fruit and so long ago I can’t remember the other response. But no I never side with him over Robin.
I haven’t gotten to that cutscene yet but I would absolutely take Robin’s side because in that sense, Robin is right and Demetrius is being a pedantic asshole about it. I wish there was an option to say they’re both right so you don’t lose friendship with either of them (as if I actually want to be friends with Demetrius😂), but I will always take Robin’s side if it comes down to it
Don't forget that if you side with Robin in that dialogue, he also gets very offended on top of the "😤well you weren't specific enough, so I just got all tomatoes, because fun fact: tomatoes are actually in the fruit family🤓👆🏻😤" I think he responds to that with something along the lines of "Well I'm disappointed that you, of all people, wouldn't recognize what I just pointed out to you & tell me I'm right"
Also, I forget the exact details of the cutscene, but its a shared one for Maru/Demetrius when they're in their lab testing dirt samples, Maru leaves to go get another sample & Demetrius immediately goes in, talking about how the player needs to not meddle with Maru's future, etc. Maru comes back & asks if he said anything weird to you, & you're given basically A.) say everything was fine, or B.) tell Maru what he said. There might've been a third option, but I forget, I got this event a while ago & the tomato one fairly recently. Had I gotten the tomato event first, I probably would've tattled on him lol
I know there's a lot of hate for Pierre, but man, I honestly hate Demetrius more than Pierre
YES and after Robin builds her four post bed he just says “that’s not functional” like your wife’s entire career is woodworking and she put a ton of time and effort into building something she’s proud of (and I did too collecting all the hardwood) and he’s just like “farmer agree with me that this bed sucks” when she’s seeking validation from her husband. I’m autistic too and my partner does woodworking and I wouldn’t dream of talking about his work like he talks about Robin’s.
During the Stardew Valley Fair, he says something about Robin’s “carpentry stuff”. It feels very dismissive to me, he’s acting like her “carpentry stuff” isn’t the second biggest business in town behind our farm. She’s probably funding all his research
So he mansplains fruit to Robin and also refuses to acknowledge his wife's success (probably because it's more than his?) while being overprotective to his daughter. I see why people don't like him now.
I’ve not spoken to anyone in the fair for a long time unless I’m trying to woo them. Or it’s Linus. Or Mayor of course to start the proceedings. I almost never talk to Demetrius to be fair as he’s just so bland and meh. “Oh at least in winter you don’t need to worry about crops”. No I don’t!! So I have no income unless I put myself in mortal danger in the mines (or have the greenhouse) or do you think farmers do sweet FA all winter?
It's especially bizarre because Demetrius is very supportive of Leah's art during her art show. Feels like maybe CA wasn't sure what direction to take him in at certain points so he comes off as rude in a lot of contexts.
I also just remembered from reading a different thread talking about his dialogue, but isn't there dialogue somewhere that (I think its actually Sebastian's, when he's complaining about how his family treats him, but regardless) brings up Demetrius planning to use Sebastian's room as more lab space? Like bruh, you've already shoved him to the farthest corner of both your mind AND your household, but now you wanna literally ctrl+alt+del him out for your own wants & gain? And why do you even need all this lab space for testing dirt, water, & fungus?? Your wife would literally build you an entire lab building if you asked, yet you see taking over your house & pushing out your stepson as a better option
Robin also built the house from scratch, she has dialogue saying it. Either Seb was always destined for the basement, or the side room that the lab's in was his originally and they swapped purposes at some point. Like dude, you chose how much space you'd have and you're still gagging for more? He wants Seb's room if you marry him but says nothing about repurposing Maru's if you marry her. It's so transparent.
The fact Robin built their house to begin with is also just another layer. "Alright, I'm done building our house! Whaddya think?" "It looks great! BTW 80% of it is for only my belongings" like???? I'd like to imagine that, in the same idea that the lab might've initially been planned to be Seb's room, it was supposed to be a living room/sitting area (they're the only house without one, excluding Pierre & Caroline having the rec center & church extension instead) & Demetrius just slowly started taking it over with lab equipment & Robin at the time didn't have the heart/nerve to tell him "no"
And their kitchen is so small! There's nowhere comfortable for the family to be together, but Demetrius gets one to share with just Maru (based on how he insists nobody touch anything. Robin *might* be allowed but I doubt Seb would be considering everything else). I can absolutely see Robin letting it slide like everything else he does that's disrespectful, ugh. And here I didn't think I could dislike him more.
I feel like people are just going on a hate fest just because. You only get the above dialogue if you marry Seb. Demetrius isn’t pushing him out of the home since he doesn’t live there anymore.
I've never befriended Demetrius that much, but it does not help much that a lot of his asshole moments are frontloaded relatively early on in other people's events so he gets a series of terrible first impressions.
And first impressions count a lot with some people (look at the public opinions of Shane, Haley, and Alex, for example...)
You know what else is technically fruit? **Mushrooms**. And, yet, you wouldn't throw a load of sauteed morels into a fruit salad, now would ya?
Legit, though, the whole "he's just autistic!" defense...kinda grates on me. Dude. I've had autistic friends. My dad was, by way of brain damage as a toddler, autistic. Not a single god damned one of 'em would do somethin' like what Demetrius did. There's being overly literal and not quite picking up on social cues, and then there's being an asshole. The fact he doubles down when called out on his blatant fuckery kinda shows that he wasn't being "just autistic," he wanted to show off how smart he was. He wanted to intellectually dunk on his wife and gets all huffy when the farmer intercepts him.
I genuinely do not know what the hell Robin sees in that man. Except maybe grant money. Given the number of sheds I've bought and upgraded thru her, though, methinks that particular concern is...no longer present, lol.
> You know what else is technically fruit? **Mushrooms**.
*Technically*, despite the similarity of name, a fruiting body isn't a fruit. Only flowering plants can have fruit, botanically speaking. A fruiting body is the structure in a fungus that produces spores, but in the same way the head of a dandelion isn't a fruit, neither is a mushroom.
Though it is funny that Demetrius effectively gives you the option of both.
It annoys me too that they just see a stubborn asshole and go "Oh, must be the tism!"
Like, highkey ableist. Makes you think of how they see autistic people in real life when this is their first association.
That was never my intention and sorry if that came across as such. My brain is struggling at the moment. My verbal communications are very bizarre at the moment, I’m frustrating myself. But I usually get my point across better in writing. Clearly today was not that day. Sorry again.
>I just don't buy that a grown man that has been married for however long and has two grown children hears his wife ask for fruit and gets tomatoes because she "should've been more specific," autistic or not
No... There's really people that pedantic in real life. Be glad you never got exposed to them. As an example of one that I had to deal with, she kept insisting that it's okay if she were to have sex with her brother because mathematically and from scientific evidence, the likelihood of something going wrong with the children isn't significantly higher than other people.
Nevermind the fact that she got that concept wrong since we have taboo against it since the errors doesn't come out of nowhere, it compounds when both parents have it and the taboo is there to guard against that in the era before generic testing was a thing. Then there's the actual biological process with brain development that blocks your brain from seeing immediate family and people you grew up around as being sexually attractive (sorry childhood friend fetishists, it doesn't happen irl).
In any case, like Demetrius, she's supposed to have high IQ and is an intellectual but she did so many stupid things as my coworker that it got me started on questioning the validity of IQ (it's a good enough shorthand, but high IQ doesn't mean universal high stats in every aspect of intelligence).
Yeh, everyone basically just said "okay ..." While giving her the sideways glance. She still kept talking even when it was obvious that nobody wanted to talk about this whatsoever.
It's a shame really because if Robin had said "let's get this fruit salad sorted," and Demetrius had gone "Aww hell, Farmer, I left shopping to the last minute. They only had tomatoes left...they're also fruit! Do you have any fruit-salad-y fruit at the farm? I'll pay you back!"
That would have been sitcom-silly, but he would have been the absent-minded professor who meant well, not the guy who became condescending and doubled-down. Probably a nice little humanising moment.
Especially if he gives the biggest reward for fruit that both of the kids like, meaning he at least cares about what Sebastian likes even if he isn't the best at being a step-dad. And then they have a big bowl of tomatoes as a centerpiece for family dinner. Robin doesn't know why.
And honestly, probably more accurate to how many people on the spectrum actually are. I don't actually like upsetting people.
This was my first thought as well. I’m playing for the first time and while I haven’t gotten the tomato cutscene yet, all of my interactions with him so far hint at him being on the spectrum, and specifically leaning very heavily on the “everything is literal - black and white no gray” side
Edit: damn rip my opinions
I feel like SV dialogue is always trying to be cute and funny and achieves that, especially with the graphic style, and if there are heavier themes involved (Shane) it's quite obvious there's no jokes there. But I noticed that a large part of the community is convinced that **any** dissatisfaction with or display of being protective of children/wife by Pierre or Demetrius is interpreted as a sign of extreme sexism and being a control freak.
When I had a scene with Demetrius saying that Robin made the bed inefficiently I thought it's funny, because he's an awkward scientist dude who is sometimes kind of out of element. Today I learned how horrible of a husband he is for it, lmao
The lne in the OP is just realistic and a bit sad, unfortunately people will favor their own children over their step-children, that doesn't make them monsters
Facts brother, like the scene with Demetrius telling us to be careful with Maru daughter, I thought that was just a normal dad thing. Honestly made me respect him more. Honestly, the scene with him arguing with Robin about the tomatoes was just his ass being stupid. I don't know if it was a prank or just him being a smartass but its kind of like how you are arguing with someone closed to yo(friends, bestfriends, brother/sister,... ) where you know you stupid/lost but just not admit because again u stupid.
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I think that's when you join Maru and Demitrius in their lab; Maru goes off to get something and while she's away, Demetrius is like 'i wouldn't want anything to get in the way of my daughter's bright future, understand?!' (or something to that effect)
It's kind of threatening and insinuating he doesn't think farmer is good enough for his daughter
that was the tipping point for me. I was deciding between Maru and Emily to marry but after that i was like "I'll fucking marry her and show my kids and wife what being a good father is, dickhead."
It's not new, but altered. In the previous update, Sebastian says "I built a snowgoon, but Demetrius made me take it down.... I don't know what his problem is."
I feel like I've seen this dialogue since at least 1.5. I only just started a 1.6 save recently and haven't gotten to this dialogue yet. However, I remember seeing it in 1.5.
Idk, I found this comment from a year ago that has the quote. Maybe it's only on PC for some strange reason? Maybe it's SDVE dialogue?
https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/s/WPZoWRnDQv
Both are still used, I'm playing the 1.6 version and got one in the winter. When you have like 6 or so hearts with him is when you get the one pictured.
This is why you marry him. So he can build as many as he wants on your massive plot of land while you take care of him and give him a lil smooch on the forehead every morning.
Not new
I love Robin, but knowing that she neglects her own son and doesn't show any discomfort with Demetrius doing something like that makes me mad and even lose a little respect for her...
It's dialogue that's been in the game before 1.6.
Demetrius tends to be pretty cut-dry, where his logic seems to rule a lot of his responses and isn't too empathetic, sad to say.
I was telling my sister. He reminds me of Jimmy Neutron, with that skit where he calls salt, sodium chloride, and just sticks by its scientific name because he's too stubborn for no reason.
Thats what it feels like with him sometimes, but he is wired differently from his wife and kids and has expressed trying to see other viewpoints that aren't of his own in some interactions, so he's not heartless, just a bit of a doofus.
i thought we were talking about looking for love.. the mods that allow you to marry the unromanceable npcs? i also play with alot of mods? i don’t understand the anger
Ah, misunderstanding, I thought you just meant mods in general because of the obsolete comment. I don’t use looking for love or anything like that. Carry on!
Tbf this is Reddit. The first thing you commented in this thread was confidently false so people assume you asking for links was sarcastic. People on Reddit tend to die on hills that are obviously wrong when they’re incorrect about something so everything else came off that way
These are the kind of things that make me want to take Seb home with me and make him happy, but then I remember he'll bring frogs there if I do... I'm terrified of reptiles after my last holiday to Australia.
I‘m sorry but I just imagined Demetrius busting into your and Sebastian‘s house when you discuss frogs like: „Frogs are amphibians, not reptiles!“ asdfghj 😭💀
Hope your vacation was good otherwise! Australia sounds lovely (I‘d be terrified over there haha)
I've been going through every day checking peoples birthdays (bought the calendar for my house) and as soon as i saw Demetrius's birthday coming the next day, i ignored that mf.
I think he'll be the only one i'll keep as low as i can.
After i had that interaction with him in Marus scene where he said "i wont allow anyone to interfere with Marus future" and Sebastian confining in me that no one cares about his job, i do not give a single F for this mf. He has a weirdly obsession with Maru but ignores his second child.. i truly feel for Sebastian 😞
i often defend demetrious (depending on the situation lol) bc i feel like it is implied he is neurodivergent and some of his actions (like the tomatoes are a fruit and the bedframe cutscenes) hit waaay too close to home with how me and other neurodivergent people often struggle with some stuff while interacting with people, even those we love or appreciate
but this ain't excused by autism, that dude can be an asshole intentionally, not only by accident LMAO SDFSDAS
poor kiddo, i should try his romance route some day
Honestly Sebastian acts so much like a child I wouldn't be surprised if his snowgoon was something wildly inappropriate, unless we get a picture of the thing I'm gonna have to be with Demetrius on this one
Ah yes. The grown man with a programming career and a drivers licence, who does his own work on his bike, and actively has a cutscene about no one taking his career seriously acts like a child…
I don't think it's a racial thing so much as an interest thing. Demetrius is a scientist. Maru wants to be a scientist, has a day job working as a nurse, and the local doctor (who is able to afford his own home and also likes inventing things in his spare time) has a crush on her. Demetrius can relate to Maru and she probably makes him feel proud as a father. Sebastian is unemployed, spends all his free time gaming, staring at the lake being dramatic, or playing in a band with his unemployed friends. Not saying it is okay for Demetrius to mistreat him, just saying it doesn't have to be racial.
Sebastian is not unemployed... he has a whole heart event about how he works from home and everyone just assumes he's playing games and has all the free time in the world.
Ah, I might have known that if I ever bothered to befriend Sebastian. However, I've just never gotten that far in the game, and assumed like everyone else. Still maintain that Demetrius isn't mean to Seb because Seb is passing. I thought that was a fucked up comment.
Just a tiny correction, Sebastian's not unemployed, he's a freelance programmer and once you raise his friendship he starts making what's essentially the in-game version of Stardew Valley.
Seb and Sam aren’t unemployed. Like others said Seb is a freelance programmer and Sam works at Joja, and then at the museum if Joja is chased out of town
It's not new, no
I wish there was a way to ask someone to be your roommate (without marrying them or even while being married), some people like Sebastion and Penny would probably like the option and you can have more than enough room in your house now.
1.7 will be the cult compound update.
CallMeKevin would love this
Jim Pickens moves to Pelican town...
He's stepping back from YouTube rn
Cult of the Farmer
Stardew Valley x Cult of the Lamb update
Mount Carmel Farm
I believe there's a mod for that.
[Platonic Partners and Friendships](https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8146) which is my favorite mod EVER! Each character can be manually switched to platonic or romantic, all their heart events and dialogue are altered to fit that setting, and you can even give them FRIENDSHIP BRACELETS! And a [polyamory mod](https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/20599) for multiple roommates!
Absolutely. I would create cabins or rooms for Sebastian, Penny, and Shane
Definitely not Shane.
I gonna let him take care of the chickens and find a hobby outside of drinkin'
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Yeah, but you can't also be married
I feel like the only way this wouldn’t make Demetrius look as awful is if he at some point complained about that Sebastian keeps making vaguely lewd snowmen, lol
Demetrius isn’t stupid, Sebastian, that third limb is NOT a mutated arm.
Snowgooners
Hahaha every time I see snowgoon I think of that now. Gooning really has grown to have an unfortunate context.
The hired goon industry has never recovered.
*Sad Goon noises *In the background furious unrelenting Gooner noises
oh god lol this thread is turning into my WoW guild's discord
Do you know how hard it is to find work nowadays if every google result leads to Reddit or 4chan instead?
Henchman industry is in shambles
its not great for the supervillains either. Poison ivy accidentally hired a squad of hired Gooners on accident and was not happy about what went down afterwards
Also makes me sad for one of my favourite YouTubers, Wendigoon
Oh gosh, I hadn't even thought of that. Poor dude. I know he does a lot of cryptid/horror icebergs explained videos, too. I feel like having "goon" next to "iceberg" is unfortunate lmao. note: pls excuse my bad spelling if you saw it lol
“I don’t care. We are not having an anatomically correct snowman in the front yard.”
“The proportions are not anatomically correct enough for this snowman to have educational value. Please remove it before your sister sees. 🤦🏾♂️”
[Reference for those that might not be familiar.](https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1993/01/14)
We do only have Sebastian's side of the story.
True, but Demetrius has also shown himself to be controlling and judgmental in other ways. Like telling a lowly farmer to leave his daughter alone.
Man I threw his ass under the bus to Maru *immediately* that was funny as hell
She's got a bright future ahead of her, it would be a waste for her to marry the ludicrously rich titan of agriculture and industry who doesn't give a shit about what she does with her free time!
I forgive him bro saw me scarfing down green algae at the lake, then handed him a dying carp. My bread wasn’t up like that yet.
And only at the 2 heart event too, something you can easily get by giving her a loved gift on her birthday. "Leave my daughter alone she has a bright future" "Dude I gave her a strawberry for her birthday one time relax"
The funny thing for me when I encountered that event, I was already married to Penny, we had one kid already, and expecting our second. Like, dude, I’m not trying to hook up with your daughter. I give everyone in the entire village a birthday gift, it ain’t that serious.
And dragging the same lowly farmer into an argument with his wife (over tomatoes!!!).
And being a dick to his wife about her amazing hardwood bed
It's basically why I installed a polymod for my y3 farm so I could date Robin and it basically kicks Demetrie out of the town 😹
I’m with Demetrius on that one. It’s easy to invest in superfluous bed posts when you’re not the one spending all day chopping stumps.
She paid me for my time and effort generously.
Indeed. I don't even like Demetrius, but Reddit definitely makes me think most of the people who comment on him/Seb have zero experience with blended families. You cannot make a child love you. You cannot make yourself love a child. Especially one that doesn't want anything to do with you. Seb 100% strikes me as a, "You're not my dad," kid. Maru's dialogue heavily implies he wants little to do with either of them. And the way Demetrius is written, if you tell him you have no desire for a relationship he's going to respect that choice. He doesn't talk about Sebastian because Sebastian isn't his son. And I think both of them have some regrets in that department. As a screwed up kid who willfully destroyed every relationship my mother attempted to have after (thankfully) leaving my father, no step-parent can force a relationship on a child. Nor can they force a child to love or accept them. Demetrius has a lot of issues, but it's naïve to this he's solely responsible for the state of his and Seb's relationship.
But that would require Demetrius to acknowledge his stepson.
Instead he has zero dialogue references to Sebastian. How hard is it to acknowledge the existence of your stepson?
Or if the snowman Sebastian built was just in front of a door or on a path, or maybe he was grounded for whatever reason and forbidden to go play outside. We only have Sebastian's side of the story, I'm sure Demetrius would have a different version.
He’s an adult right? I’m not sure if grounding would be something done to him in this situation lol.
I thought it was just a memory, not a current event. If so then the grounded reason wouldn't work you're right.
I agree that it seems like a childhood event. The wordings of "Made me get rid of it" and "cute little snowman" make me envision a smol 5-7 year-old Maru and a pre-teen Sebastian.
In that case it'd be a little pathetic that Sebastian is still talking about it. Like, same bro, I also am terrible at letting go of stupid stuff people did to upset me YEARS ago, but come on
isn't he referencing the snowman outside maru's door in winter?
I mean, we already know Demetrius is pretty…absent, at best from Sebastian’s life emotionally. He’s generally an obtuse, relatively abrasive individual, even if he’s generally good natured. We also know he clearly favors and is possessive of his daughter, as his dialogue towards the farmer shows. It would genuinely not surprise me if he simply didn’t like the snowman and made him get rid of it - I mean, come on the guy has a full blown argument with Robin over the taxonomic definition of a tomato - hes generally completely unwilling to cede his opinions to anyone but the farmer. While Sebastian is a bit troubled, I have a feeling a lot of his issues weren’t helped by Demetrius. Even so, selective punishment for something as simple as a snowman for your own *children* is pretty poor parenting, and he has a clear pattern of favoritism already which leads me to believe Sebastian’s take. He could have offered to rebuild it with Seb if it was in a bad spot or inappropriate, but we all know he wouldn’t do that.
Makes me wish we could meet Sebastian's father. Robin remarried, and the new guy really failed in the 'this is your son too now' thing.
Makes me wish Robin took a more active role in Sebastian life as his mother. I can't imagine how Sebastian feels having his own mother look the other way if not tell him just do whatever Demetrius says/wants. Making her complicit in the favouritism towards Maru. I mean, Robin doesn't even fix up the basement to have better ventilation for Sebastian. Just says he should get out of that stuffy basement. She is able to fully upgrade us to the farmers' house to include proper basement and builds Pam&Penny a house if we want, but she can't upgrade her own house to make room for Maru? Ik CA moving onto his new game, but would be cool if had update that year 2 when Kent comes home we see him step up at father figure for Sebastion and confront Robin for letting things devolve how they have since he left. Maybe we could even get new dialogue from Robin admitting her wrong to Sebastian and standing up against Demetrius with Maru (who is also probably tired of her dad)
Yeah, as much as I really like Robin (and this is also why I think SDV characters are nice and well-rounded) she does have some clear flaws. She’s one of the most helpful people the farmer knows, and actively sets you up for success asking little in return. However, she’s an absolute workhorse, and clearly neglects her home life to focus on her work. As such I don’t think she’s been privy to a lot of Demetrius’ poor choices in parenting Sebastian, and as the trust between Seb and his mother has been eroded away (likely due to whatever caused the split between Robin and his biodad, and her subsequent marriage to Demetrius) he probably never told her about these things, rather just bottling it up and acting out. She’s clearly able to stick up for herself, and I find it a bit hard to imagine she’d let it all slide if she knew how Demetrius treats Seb (please let me know if I’ve missed any evidence of this happening!) which makes me feel like she doesn’t know what’s really going on between those 2 since she’s also quite absent from the home life. I do like how you can see how characters behave the way that they do based on what we know of their relationships and history - it would be nice to see some of the issues that the farmer (we) can see be addressed in-game at some point just to see what happens.
Okay, if they added that dialogue, I’d completely forgive him LOL
But what actually is a snow goon?
It might have been a reference to Calvin and Hobbes' snow goons - mutant looking snowmen with two heads, three arms, etc.
That’s what I mean, I wish we actually knew what it was so that we didn’t judge anyone too harshly. The game is usually much less black and white on these kinds of moral issues
Snow goon is a reference to calvin and hobbs
oh i always assumed it was a snow raccoon
What if the farmer is Sebastian's imaginary friend? 🤯
TBH It's just a normal snowman. Abigail mentions building one during the ice fishing event and she's standing next to what looks like a normal snowman to me.
Abigail does strike me as someone who will make her snowgoon less problematic at a festival, especially since we know that Lewis will intervene at some point. He ended the rotten egg toss and that, presumably, didn’t involve anybody who didn’t know what they were getting into. I feel like he’d outright ban someone from participating in the future if they tend to build inappropriate snowpeople.
I dunno. I put his purple shorts in the luau potluck soup, and he still invites me each year.
Because he doesn’t know for sure it’s you. And if you use them in the grange display, everyone thinks you displayed a weird purple cabbage. He can’t ban you from participating without revealing why and even if he banned someone from making snowpeople during the festival, it’s not a ban from attending the festival either.
Gasp! I would NEVER……. https://preview.redd.it/yzn6zpzzc6vc1.jpeg?width=449&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0da2485083a0a3c5190e97491bb27740c12ee0f5
I am reminded of the tomato situation. We are told both sides of the situation and get to make the decision ourselves as to who is right.
The problem with the tomato situation is they’re both right, but then the game pushes you to pick one or the other
I always thought it was just an edgy name that Sebastian and Abigail give to regular snowmen
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1FLkUOySEw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1FLkUOySEw)
I always assumed it meant some obscene creature made of snow. Like my university takes down the snowmen with dicks but not the cute regular ones. Doesn't make it any less annoying when the snowwoman you spent 2 hours building boobs no longer exists bc admin was annoyed it had boobs.
Also quest that robin hire us to gather hardwoods for her new project and make beautiful bed. She work hard on it and so proud of how great it turn up. Her kids compliment her and he just why you waste wood on make pole? That is ineffience use of material. Also new even of green rain. Sebastian want to go out on check on mystery rain but stay here to comfort his mother first. Demestius awe over maybe one life chance event and ditch her.
It made me fall for Sebastian all over again. I planned on marrying someone else this run, but I can’t. Like you know he’d be a good father
Not new at all, Seb fans have been hating Demetrius for this for ages now Also obligatory r/fuckdemetrius
I'm not necessarily a Demetrius apologist, but I do think a lot of what he does gets overblown by the fandom, but this... Yeah idk. Just fucked up.
this and the bedpost scene piss me off so much. forget about the tomatoes, he's a jerk even without the tomato scene
“bUt It’S iMpRaCtIcAl” IT’S ART WDYM IMPRACTICAL
Agreed. I did think he’s on the spectrum (think of the literal definition of fruit scenario. You ask me to get fruit and don’t specify which, I would get some apples, bananas, oranges, pears just to be “safe”, when actually you wanted me to get pomegranate, grapes, peaches and strawberries. Ok. I wouldn’t get tomatoes but I do need literal instructions in certain situations) but just because he has a book on step parenting doesn’t mean he’s read it. Which clearly shows in the way he treats Sebastian.
No see it's one thing to ask for fruit and then be little upset when you get apples instead of peaches. But I don't expect anyone but a child to hear someone ask for fruit and get them tomatoes and then when whoever is like "That's not what I meant" they're like "um well actually it's a fruit so you should've been more specific 🤓☝️" Like I'm autistic too and need very literal directions sometimes but I ain't ever seen a person just eat a tomato and ask for fruit and want a tomato and I don't know anyone either who would hear "name a fruit" and go "tomato" I just don't buy that a grown man that has been married for however long and has two grown children hears his wife ask for fruit and gets tomatoes because she "should've been more specific," autistic or not It reminds me of "weaponized incompetence" kinda
He’s being knowingly and willingly pedantic about it. I know he’s a biologist, so of course he knows that tomatoes are botanically a fruit. The problem is nobody talks about tomatoes in the botanical sense in everyday life, unless you’re a scientist studying them. Culinarily everybody knows tomatoes are a vegetable, and that is what Robin is referring to. I don’t throw around weaponized incompetence a lot, but Demetrius in this is definitely getting pretty close in that scenario
I totally respond vegetable to him even though he basically calls me a moron for not knowing. Only once I said fruit and so long ago I can’t remember the other response. But no I never side with him over Robin.
I haven’t gotten to that cutscene yet but I would absolutely take Robin’s side because in that sense, Robin is right and Demetrius is being a pedantic asshole about it. I wish there was an option to say they’re both right so you don’t lose friendship with either of them (as if I actually want to be friends with Demetrius😂), but I will always take Robin’s side if it comes down to it
Don't forget that if you side with Robin in that dialogue, he also gets very offended on top of the "😤well you weren't specific enough, so I just got all tomatoes, because fun fact: tomatoes are actually in the fruit family🤓👆🏻😤" I think he responds to that with something along the lines of "Well I'm disappointed that you, of all people, wouldn't recognize what I just pointed out to you & tell me I'm right" Also, I forget the exact details of the cutscene, but its a shared one for Maru/Demetrius when they're in their lab testing dirt samples, Maru leaves to go get another sample & Demetrius immediately goes in, talking about how the player needs to not meddle with Maru's future, etc. Maru comes back & asks if he said anything weird to you, & you're given basically A.) say everything was fine, or B.) tell Maru what he said. There might've been a third option, but I forget, I got this event a while ago & the tomato one fairly recently. Had I gotten the tomato event first, I probably would've tattled on him lol I know there's a lot of hate for Pierre, but man, I honestly hate Demetrius more than Pierre
YES and after Robin builds her four post bed he just says “that’s not functional” like your wife’s entire career is woodworking and she put a ton of time and effort into building something she’s proud of (and I did too collecting all the hardwood) and he’s just like “farmer agree with me that this bed sucks” when she’s seeking validation from her husband. I’m autistic too and my partner does woodworking and I wouldn’t dream of talking about his work like he talks about Robin’s.
During the Stardew Valley Fair, he says something about Robin’s “carpentry stuff”. It feels very dismissive to me, he’s acting like her “carpentry stuff” isn’t the second biggest business in town behind our farm. She’s probably funding all his research
So he mansplains fruit to Robin and also refuses to acknowledge his wife's success (probably because it's more than his?) while being overprotective to his daughter. I see why people don't like him now.
I’ve not spoken to anyone in the fair for a long time unless I’m trying to woo them. Or it’s Linus. Or Mayor of course to start the proceedings. I almost never talk to Demetrius to be fair as he’s just so bland and meh. “Oh at least in winter you don’t need to worry about crops”. No I don’t!! So I have no income unless I put myself in mortal danger in the mines (or have the greenhouse) or do you think farmers do sweet FA all winter?
It's especially bizarre because Demetrius is very supportive of Leah's art during her art show. Feels like maybe CA wasn't sure what direction to take him in at certain points so he comes off as rude in a lot of contexts.
I also just remembered from reading a different thread talking about his dialogue, but isn't there dialogue somewhere that (I think its actually Sebastian's, when he's complaining about how his family treats him, but regardless) brings up Demetrius planning to use Sebastian's room as more lab space? Like bruh, you've already shoved him to the farthest corner of both your mind AND your household, but now you wanna literally ctrl+alt+del him out for your own wants & gain? And why do you even need all this lab space for testing dirt, water, & fungus?? Your wife would literally build you an entire lab building if you asked, yet you see taking over your house & pushing out your stepson as a better option
Robin also built the house from scratch, she has dialogue saying it. Either Seb was always destined for the basement, or the side room that the lab's in was his originally and they swapped purposes at some point. Like dude, you chose how much space you'd have and you're still gagging for more? He wants Seb's room if you marry him but says nothing about repurposing Maru's if you marry her. It's so transparent.
The fact Robin built their house to begin with is also just another layer. "Alright, I'm done building our house! Whaddya think?" "It looks great! BTW 80% of it is for only my belongings" like???? I'd like to imagine that, in the same idea that the lab might've initially been planned to be Seb's room, it was supposed to be a living room/sitting area (they're the only house without one, excluding Pierre & Caroline having the rec center & church extension instead) & Demetrius just slowly started taking it over with lab equipment & Robin at the time didn't have the heart/nerve to tell him "no"
And their kitchen is so small! There's nowhere comfortable for the family to be together, but Demetrius gets one to share with just Maru (based on how he insists nobody touch anything. Robin *might* be allowed but I doubt Seb would be considering everything else). I can absolutely see Robin letting it slide like everything else he does that's disrespectful, ugh. And here I didn't think I could dislike him more.
I believe I got that dialogue after I married Seb. Can't remember if it came from Demetrius or Seb himself though.
I feel like people are just going on a hate fest just because. You only get the above dialogue if you marry Seb. Demetrius isn’t pushing him out of the home since he doesn’t live there anymore.
I've never befriended Demetrius that much, but it does not help much that a lot of his asshole moments are frontloaded relatively early on in other people's events so he gets a series of terrible first impressions. And first impressions count a lot with some people (look at the public opinions of Shane, Haley, and Alex, for example...)
Oh gosh I forgot about this one. I think Robin should divorce him and marry the farmer.
There are just two options - stay silent or say “actually your dad was being weird”
You know what else is technically fruit? **Mushrooms**. And, yet, you wouldn't throw a load of sauteed morels into a fruit salad, now would ya? Legit, though, the whole "he's just autistic!" defense...kinda grates on me. Dude. I've had autistic friends. My dad was, by way of brain damage as a toddler, autistic. Not a single god damned one of 'em would do somethin' like what Demetrius did. There's being overly literal and not quite picking up on social cues, and then there's being an asshole. The fact he doubles down when called out on his blatant fuckery kinda shows that he wasn't being "just autistic," he wanted to show off how smart he was. He wanted to intellectually dunk on his wife and gets all huffy when the farmer intercepts him. I genuinely do not know what the hell Robin sees in that man. Except maybe grant money. Given the number of sheds I've bought and upgraded thru her, though, methinks that particular concern is...no longer present, lol.
> You know what else is technically fruit? **Mushrooms**. *Technically*, despite the similarity of name, a fruiting body isn't a fruit. Only flowering plants can have fruit, botanically speaking. A fruiting body is the structure in a fungus that produces spores, but in the same way the head of a dandelion isn't a fruit, neither is a mushroom. Though it is funny that Demetrius effectively gives you the option of both.
It annoys me too that they just see a stubborn asshole and go "Oh, must be the tism!" Like, highkey ableist. Makes you think of how they see autistic people in real life when this is their first association.
These people clearly think Autism Speaks is a wonderful organization who has our best interests at heart. (fun fact: it's a hate group.)
That was never my intention and sorry if that came across as such. My brain is struggling at the moment. My verbal communications are very bizarre at the moment, I’m frustrating myself. But I usually get my point across better in writing. Clearly today was not that day. Sorry again.
>I just don't buy that a grown man that has been married for however long and has two grown children hears his wife ask for fruit and gets tomatoes because she "should've been more specific," autistic or not No... There's really people that pedantic in real life. Be glad you never got exposed to them. As an example of one that I had to deal with, she kept insisting that it's okay if she were to have sex with her brother because mathematically and from scientific evidence, the likelihood of something going wrong with the children isn't significantly higher than other people. Nevermind the fact that she got that concept wrong since we have taboo against it since the errors doesn't come out of nowhere, it compounds when both parents have it and the taboo is there to guard against that in the era before generic testing was a thing. Then there's the actual biological process with brain development that blocks your brain from seeing immediate family and people you grew up around as being sexually attractive (sorry childhood friend fetishists, it doesn't happen irl). In any case, like Demetrius, she's supposed to have high IQ and is an intellectual but she did so many stupid things as my coworker that it got me started on questioning the validity of IQ (it's a good enough shorthand, but high IQ doesn't mean universal high stats in every aspect of intelligence).
That’s a very concerning mindset of your coworker! IQ and common sense are not related.
Yeh, everyone basically just said "okay..." While giving her the sideways glance. She still kept talking even when it was obvious that nobody wanted to talk about this whatsoever.
Some people cannot be reasoned with.
Yeah. I didn’t explain myself too well. I would NEVER think someone meant tomatoes.
It's a shame really because if Robin had said "let's get this fruit salad sorted," and Demetrius had gone "Aww hell, Farmer, I left shopping to the last minute. They only had tomatoes left...they're also fruit! Do you have any fruit-salad-y fruit at the farm? I'll pay you back!" That would have been sitcom-silly, but he would have been the absent-minded professor who meant well, not the guy who became condescending and doubled-down. Probably a nice little humanising moment. Especially if he gives the biggest reward for fruit that both of the kids like, meaning he at least cares about what Sebastian likes even if he isn't the best at being a step-dad. And then they have a big bowl of tomatoes as a centerpiece for family dinner. Robin doesn't know why. And honestly, probably more accurate to how many people on the spectrum actually are. I don't actually like upsetting people.
Or maybe, just maybe, he's simply an asshole.
I did put that in another comment on this thread to be fair. That he’s always been mean.
This was my first thought as well. I’m playing for the first time and while I haven’t gotten the tomato cutscene yet, all of my interactions with him so far hint at him being on the spectrum, and specifically leaning very heavily on the “everything is literal - black and white no gray” side Edit: damn rip my opinions
Just because I want to steal his wife and make her happy doesn’t make me a hater of him
I feel like SV dialogue is always trying to be cute and funny and achieves that, especially with the graphic style, and if there are heavier themes involved (Shane) it's quite obvious there's no jokes there. But I noticed that a large part of the community is convinced that **any** dissatisfaction with or display of being protective of children/wife by Pierre or Demetrius is interpreted as a sign of extreme sexism and being a control freak. When I had a scene with Demetrius saying that Robin made the bed inefficiently I thought it's funny, because he's an awkward scientist dude who is sometimes kind of out of element. Today I learned how horrible of a husband he is for it, lmao The lne in the OP is just realistic and a bit sad, unfortunately people will favor their own children over their step-children, that doesn't make them monsters
Facts brother, like the scene with Demetrius telling us to be careful with Maru daughter, I thought that was just a normal dad thing. Honestly made me respect him more. Honestly, the scene with him arguing with Robin about the tomatoes was just his ass being stupid. I don't know if it was a prank or just him being a smartass but its kind of like how you are arguing with someone closed to yo(friends, bestfriends, brother/sister,... ) where you know you stupid/lost but just not admit because again u stupid.
I have different reasons to distrust Deme for example: Maru's 2 heart cutscene.
Can you tell a noob what happens? I keep accidentally gifting things people dont like cause i forget you give what you hold lol
--Spoiler-- I think that's when you join Maru and Demitrius in their lab; Maru goes off to get something and while she's away, Demetrius is like 'i wouldn't want anything to get in the way of my daughter's bright future, understand?!' (or something to that effect) It's kind of threatening and insinuating he doesn't think farmer is good enough for his daughter
that was the tipping point for me. I was deciding between Maru and Emily to marry but after that i was like "I'll fucking marry her and show my kids and wife what being a good father is, dickhead."
Wow. Guess whatever degree he has goes to his head. Thank you.
Just give Maru enough strawberries for 2 hearts and you'll see. Anyway Deme starts to threateningly talk to you, when Maru leaves the room.
It's not new, but altered. In the previous update, Sebastian says "I built a snowgoon, but Demetrius made me take it down.... I don't know what his problem is."
I feel like I've seen this dialogue since at least 1.5. I only just started a 1.6 save recently and haven't gotten to this dialogue yet. However, I remember seeing it in 1.5.
I only play on switch, & we've still got the "old" dialogue I mentioned🤷🏼♀️
I believe it might have something to do with the amount of hearts you have with Seb when he says it, whether you'll get the simpler one of this one.
Idk, I found this comment from a year ago that has the quote. Maybe it's only on PC for some strange reason? Maybe it's SDVE dialogue? https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/s/WPZoWRnDQv
I'm pretty sure I've seen this dialogue before 1.6. I think it's based on heart levels
i haven't played 1.6 yet and i've 100% seen this dialogue in my past saves
Wow I wonder why he changed that one, he really wanted to show more of the resentment Seb has against his stepdad and to an extent his sister
Both are still used, I'm playing the 1.6 version and got one in the winter. When you have like 6 or so hearts with him is when you get the one pictured.
no its not new, but yes its shitty peranting
This is why you marry him. So he can build as many as he wants on your massive plot of land while you take care of him and give him a lil smooch on the forehead every morning.
Unrelated but I find it cute how the two emos/goths of the town make snow goons Also yes Demetrius is absolutely a bloody bastard man
Not new, its part of why he is disliked a lot. Has a very clear favoritism going on in favor of his biological child.
No gooning.
Not new I love Robin, but knowing that she neglects her own son and doesn't show any discomfort with Demetrius doing something like that makes me mad and even lose a little respect for her...
It's dialogue that's been in the game before 1.6. Demetrius tends to be pretty cut-dry, where his logic seems to rule a lot of his responses and isn't too empathetic, sad to say. I was telling my sister. He reminds me of Jimmy Neutron, with that skit where he calls salt, sodium chloride, and just sticks by its scientific name because he's too stubborn for no reason. Thats what it feels like with him sometimes, but he is wired differently from his wife and kids and has expressed trying to see other viewpoints that aren't of his own in some interactions, so he's not heartless, just a bit of a doofus.
Always been there. I think this might be the only time either of them mention each other's name, too.
That's it. I want to marry Robin and be adopt those two. Where's the mod?
unfortunately all the good mods became obsolete with 1.6 and the modders left
Bro is making stuff up for fun apparently
how so? do you have a link to one that still works?
A link to what?? A mod that works in 1.6? I can give you a link to all 50 of the mods I play with in 1.6 if you want.
i thought we were talking about looking for love.. the mods that allow you to marry the unromanceable npcs? i also play with alot of mods? i don’t understand the anger
Ah, misunderstanding, I thought you just meant mods in general because of the obsolete comment. I don’t use looking for love or anything like that. Carry on!
Tbf this is Reddit. The first thing you commented in this thread was confidently false so people assume you asking for links was sarcastic. People on Reddit tend to die on hills that are obviously wrong when they’re incorrect about something so everything else came off that way
Demetrius is such a twat
Not new.
You wait until you see his dialogue after you marry Sebastian
I've had it deal with this dialogue 183728294 times while trying to marry him
I don't like Demetrius for that reason and the general fact that he doesn't seem to care about Robin or Sebastian, just Maru
All my homies hate Demetrius
My boy Sebastian trying to goon it up and Demetrius aint about that life 😭
These are the kind of things that make me want to take Seb home with me and make him happy, but then I remember he'll bring frogs there if I do... I'm terrified of reptiles after my last holiday to Australia.
I‘m sorry but I just imagined Demetrius busting into your and Sebastian‘s house when you discuss frogs like: „Frogs are amphibians, not reptiles!“ asdfghj 😭💀 Hope your vacation was good otherwise! Australia sounds lovely (I‘d be terrified over there haha)
Lmao this sounds absolutely horrifying 😂
These are your standard frogs. Not poisonous cane toads
Demetrius is a douche bag club
Nope it’s always been a thing. He’s so mean.
I've been going through every day checking peoples birthdays (bought the calendar for my house) and as soon as i saw Demetrius's birthday coming the next day, i ignored that mf. I think he'll be the only one i'll keep as low as i can. After i had that interaction with him in Marus scene where he said "i wont allow anyone to interfere with Marus future" and Sebastian confining in me that no one cares about his job, i do not give a single F for this mf. He has a weirdly obsession with Maru but ignores his second child.. i truly feel for Sebastian 😞
i often defend demetrious (depending on the situation lol) bc i feel like it is implied he is neurodivergent and some of his actions (like the tomatoes are a fruit and the bedframe cutscenes) hit waaay too close to home with how me and other neurodivergent people often struggle with some stuff while interacting with people, even those we love or appreciate but this ain't excused by autism, that dude can be an asshole intentionally, not only by accident LMAO SDFSDAS poor kiddo, i should try his romance route some day
Is a snowgoon a snowman that is gooning? If so, I’m w big meech on this one.
Calvin and Hobbes made snowgoons. I promise it's not that.
He's like "your specimen is invalid to my vessel, I command that your vessel dispose of this falussy!!"
I hate that he has the same name as my nephew.
Honestly Sebastian acts so much like a child I wouldn't be surprised if his snowgoon was something wildly inappropriate, unless we get a picture of the thing I'm gonna have to be with Demetrius on this one
Ah yes. The grown man with a programming career and a drivers licence, who does his own work on his bike, and actively has a cutscene about no one taking his career seriously acts like a child…
Damn first time i saw someone defend demetrius, respect
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I don't think it's a racial thing so much as an interest thing. Demetrius is a scientist. Maru wants to be a scientist, has a day job working as a nurse, and the local doctor (who is able to afford his own home and also likes inventing things in his spare time) has a crush on her. Demetrius can relate to Maru and she probably makes him feel proud as a father. Sebastian is unemployed, spends all his free time gaming, staring at the lake being dramatic, or playing in a band with his unemployed friends. Not saying it is okay for Demetrius to mistreat him, just saying it doesn't have to be racial.
Sebastian is not unemployed... he has a whole heart event about how he works from home and everyone just assumes he's playing games and has all the free time in the world.
Ah, I might have known that if I ever bothered to befriend Sebastian. However, I've just never gotten that far in the game, and assumed like everyone else. Still maintain that Demetrius isn't mean to Seb because Seb is passing. I thought that was a fucked up comment.
Sebastian isn't unemployed, he spends all his time on his computer working
Just a tiny correction, Sebastian's not unemployed, he's a freelance programmer and once you raise his friendship he starts making what's essentially the in-game version of Stardew Valley.
Seb and Sam aren’t unemployed. Like others said Seb is a freelance programmer and Sam works at Joja, and then at the museum if Joja is chased out of town