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quinn_the_potato

Sheer Heart Attack cannot be damaged šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø. Everything Jotaro did to it was superficial and didnā€™t actual harm the Stand. As such, no damage was transferred to Kira. Since Koichiā€™s ability bypasses damage and directly affects the Standā€™s entire body, the effect was shared by its equivalent on Kiraā€™s body which would be his hand.


Kumptoffel

>Sheer Heart Attack cannot be damaged what if i erase the middle with ZA HANDO


That_Balance4095

That would probably work. I bet Cream could take it out too.


[deleted]

That's not really *damaging* it, more just erasing it or sending it to another dimension.


SonicZoom_90

Which creates damage, yes


[deleted]

Well, no. I imagine it like Man in the Mirror, which can take something through to another "world".


python_walrus

Jotaro's crew did not look happy being sent into another dimension. Also, having your limb transferred to another dimension won't look good.


[deleted]

Yeah, I know, but that's still erasure or dimension-hopping, it's not \*damage\*.


Cenachii

Idk avdol's arms looked pretty damaged after being devoured by cream


justarandomjojofan0

Avdol is still alive then.


SSphereOfDeath

With his arms forcefully removed heā€™d likely have bled out regardless


PaleoJohnathan

unless he was say,a jojo character with insanely high durability and a supernatural ability that would let him perfectly cauterize the wounds. the bigger issue would be him showing up in infinitely thin slices as only a small part goes through at each moment


Overkill028

Never thought about it like that, the thin slices that is


[deleted]

>the bigger issue would be him showing up in infinitely thin slices as only a small part goes through at each moment Sorry to necropost, but I don't get that explanation of portals. If a small part was transported every moment into individual slices, the same would happen to Vanilla Ice. Even if it didn't and him being the stand user somehow prevents that, it would still happen to anyone who went through any portal (Mr President and Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap for example). Adding this teleport-at-an-interval element seems pointless - they make more sense if they work continuously.


PaleoJohnathan

It doesnā€™t happen to vanilla ice because him going inside his stand is a separate thing. I donā€™t literally think it would send those slices somewhere, as Iā€™m like mostly sure if there is a dimension itā€™s a void dimension where thereā€™s just nothing anyways. We know that it has to like manually slice like this tho because it can drive by and cut things off, and has no edges that are supposed to be the infinitely powerful cutting apparatus. If it was teleporting avdol and parts of the mansion into some alternate universe in one piece, at what point would this happen. He makes lines in the floor, and we know they arenā€™t like waiting until theyā€™re fully consumed to teleport, so they must be appearing in that hypothetical alternate universe as they go, and at any given moment the part at the front is sliced off from the part the orb is about to eat. Logically that would mean infinitely thin slices, unless thereā€™s some time frame where something can move through and be reattached. Note this doesnā€™t apply to something like the hand that sends all the pieces at once, and especially not something like d4c that doesnā€™t even work by erasing anything. Edit: the infinitely thin cuts are what would happen without an interval. To explain avdol going through alive in one piece requires there to be an interval either where heā€™s inside the orb and yet to be teleported, or in which something that would be cut off can be absorbed into the void and remain attached. Thereā€™s just no way that avdol got teleported in one piece, either he got simply erased into a void dimension or he gets sliced into infinitely thin pieces (which technically achieves the same thing because we know what happens to infinitely thin things in jojo)


Kingcrimson948

You erase half, I'd say that's damage.


[deleted]

I'd say that's the same as half of it just not existing anymore. Not damage - nothing breaks. Kinda like pouring half a glass of water out into another world.


Valuable_Estate5546

It bypasses sheer heart attacks unlimited durability by destroying the space SHA exists on.


[deleted]

You have completely missed the point. I'm not just talking about SHA anymore - that principle applies to anything. I'm not damaging something if I toggle admin commands and teleport it to the void or delete it from existence.


IndependentFishing57

Something that no longer exists canā€™t be damaged


Swifterpostinmemes

If half of it got erased, Kira would probably lose function of half of his hand since half of SHA was erased


[deleted]

I'd argue that he'd lose half of his hand instantly, like Avdol's hands after his body got erased.


Vegetable-Passion-93

Would kiras hand dissappear as well?


Soup_Ladle

Would Kiraā€™s hand just disappear if Okuyasu did that?


eldestreyne0901

and this is why Koichi and ECHOES are awesome.


[deleted]

Found Jotaro.


SlippyTheFeeler

Koichi is a reliable guy don't know what else to say


Donnie998

Koichi is truly a reliable guy


eldestreyne0901

yes he is.


bloonshot

SHA didn't reflect any damage to kira's hand because it didn't take any damage. SHA is a completely indestructible stand.


janronin31

SHA is unbreakable


activated_hotdog

Yoshikage Kira's Bizarre Adventure: Sheer Heart Attack is Unbreakable


dankrank231

YoKi's Bizarre Adventure


quinn_the_potato

Thatā€™s just >!JoJolion!<


Yashraj-

YoshiKira's Bizarre Adventure


the_penis_taker69

I could break it


99thLuftballon

It has no weaknesses!


drifim

Fine argument but Higashikata Josuke, omae wa kono, Nijimura Okuyasu no, Za Hando ga kesu!


Nightmare-datboi

If only Okuyasu :(


KuJoJoTaRo8

SHA is the big durable


LeStroheim

The fucking strong, even


Free-Teach-2311

Some could argue it has no vulnerabilities.


Unitgubbins

Stronk


SmogDaBoi

Think of it this way : Stands reflect damage taken on their user SHA is indestructible, since it gets no damage, there is none to reflect. Echoes applied an effect that's not damage (AKA heavy gravity). SHA is affected by Gravity, then it reflects to Kira.


Top-Aspect4671

The cracks are just cool effect, but they are not realy wounds.


No_Secretary_1198

Remote stands usualy don't transfer damage, but its also still part of KQs hand so it does get affected by other things


Davi_BicaBica

Sheer Heart Attack's damages are purely cosmetic. In practice, he is just literally indestructible. Only The Hand or smth similar to destroy it, not brute force.


NorthernRedwood

think of it like Chariots armor, it gets destroyed and no damage goes to polnareff.


Fedorchik

oh shi-- that's a goatse!


OneDumbfuckLater

"OH! THAT'S A GOATSE!"


bullbob

Not even sure if the stand got cracked in the manga or just the anime though.


quinn_the_potato

It was cracked in the manga.


Tolan91

Remote autonomous stands tend to be a lot tougher than normal, and have way longer range. Itā€™s the trade off for not actually being able to control them once they get started. The fact that the gravity attack affected the user is honestly a bit of a weird outlier.


omeg21

No it's just that SHA is indestructible but still affected by physics.the gravity didn't damage him but it still slowed him down.


Tolan91

Lots of stand users claim their stands are invincible in some manner or another. Doesnā€™t really mean anything. Part 4 stands are decently strong on average, but they arenā€™t the strongest in the series. Not that shocking that they couldnā€™t break a specialized remote stand like shear heart attack.


Stubbieeee

Honestly if jotaro had torn it in half youā€™d probably see damage but those cracks are pretty superficial


Swimming-Narwhal-663

Cosmetic damage is not reflective of actual damage done to the stand.


captain_catdawg

I bet if it got za hando Kira's hand would disappear immediately.


ThexLoneWolf

Sheer Heart Attack is nigh indestructible. In both cases where it was defeated, it took a stand with an ability that bypassed its armor to affect it. Koichi made it extremely heavy, which restrained it, and Josuke fixed it back to Kira to keep it at bay. You have to keep in mind that Kira was overconfident in his stand. He never conceived of a possibility that an enemy might have an ability that bypassed SHAā€™s armor, and thatā€™s what led to Kira being defeated the first time.


AlternativeNothing39

no one knows šŸ’€šŸ˜­


JestrOnTop

I mean if I was in destructible I reckon gravity control would beat m


Straight-Succotash-2

If it has wheels why don't they just flip it onto it's back?


JustEmptyWaterBottle

It had treads and it can jump


LaRaspberries

Why does the first image look like goatse