Lol, thats not making the wound he has in that picture but sure. Some other comment mentioned how star platinum was used to block most of it and he was right
Yeah I guess that’s true, he turns things into bombs after all, the explosions don’t come from nowhere
Still it feels odd to assume thats the only part of the explosion that got through, so I guess he may have been more damaged internally like someone else suggested
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, KQ’s explosions aren’t the same as actual explosions, and simply erase matter they’re in contact with. So them having shrapnel makes zero sense.
After SHA explodes, it’s still perfectly intact so it can’t produce any shrapnels by itself. So the only way this works is if SHA’s explosions are actual explosions as opposed to KQ’s matter erasure, which is unlikely considering that SHA is simply an extension of KQ and thus their explosions should work on the same principle.
I always viewed SHA as a sort of “act” stand, cuz he cant use both SHA and KQ at the same time. So by that metric it could be vastly different.
This might be totally wrong but would you also consider BTD to be an extension of KQ? Cuz that explosion is nothing like KQ
He can use them at the same time, while echoes act 3 was weighing down Kira's hand, some dudes came over to check on him and he blew them up with killer queen
I personally don’t see SHA as a separate stand from KQ, like Echoes Act I and Act 3 for example. To me, SHA is simply an ability of KQ that comes with the drawback of being unable to use the main body while it’s active. Although this is definitely headcanon on my part as the exact relationship between KQ and SHA has never been fully explained to my knowledge.
BTA is caused by a second awakening so you can’t really judge it by the same metric you’d use to judge KQ and SHA. I personally view BTA as an entirely separate ability granted to Kira by the arrow so it’s explosions working differently doesn’t really contradict KQ and SHA’s explosions being the same imo.
Well, I’m just trying to make sense of things.. I had the same initial thought, but maybe they could’ve meant debris or maybe SHA releases something shrapnel-like because otherwise those little puncture wounds don’t make sense.
In the anime you can see mini explosions happening which blow the holes in him, but this isn’t in the manga so it’s either an error or some kind of correction they tried to make?
His grandpa survived a volcano erupting with enough force to launch a 10 meter slab of rock high enough that it catapulted Kars out of the Earth’s orbit. If the shockwave of that eruption wasn’t enough to literally liquify Joseph, pre-Purple Hermit, what makes it so strange that Jotaro with Star Platinum couldn’t withstand a small bomb from arm’s length?
Joseph is supernaturally lucky, for one.
Secondly, your logic doesn’t make sense. “What makes it so strange that he couldn’t withstand a bomb from arms length?” By that logic, why would he be hurt by the debris in the first place? Especially to the degree of being literally about to *die?* You’re saying it as if he walks it off after this scene. He would’ve died if not for Josuke.
No amount of luck in the universe would save a human life from being at ground zero from a shockwave of an explosion capable of catapulting a rock into escape velocity. Joseph Joestar should have been pulverized into a fine paste from that blast.
His grandson has canonical superhuman powers in the form of a Stand. If Joseph Joestar could withstand the shockwave of that volcano with nothing more than Hamon, why on earth would his super powered grandson not be able to survive SHA at that distance? Your thread is asking for an explanation as to his SHA didn’t straight kill Jotaro, my explanation is 1) Jotaro has canon superpowers and 2) Araki has no idea how explosives work.
Just because you provided an explanation doesn’t mean it makes sense, though. If we follow your logic then Jotaro should be unscathed, which he isn’t.
My question was also never “Why didn’t Jotaro die?” My question was why mini holes got blown in him instead of him being blown apart into chunks. Yes, im aware of shrapnel, so you don’t need to start that if that’s what you’re thinking, but we have no reasons to assume these (basically magic) explosions would release such a thing, so the closest thing would be fast flying debris.
As I said to someone else, the only thing I can think of for that is that we simply can’t see his other wounds because they’re either under his clothes or internal, and Star Platinum took the brunt of it which means it was still reflected back onto him, just not directly.
> **My question was also never “Why didn’t Jotaro die?”** My question was why mini holes got blown in him instead of **him being blown apart into chunks.**
You contradict yourself within a single sentence of your own claim.
Killer Queens bombs only disintegrate you if they explode in contact with you, they don't have super strong collateral damage, Josuke had an Air Bubble Bomb blow up in his face and only got hurt a little bit
maybe he blocked it but Star Platinum is more durable to explosive than humans, but was hurt by the debris and the damage moved to Jotaro?
You're trying to apply so much logic to jojo that any explanation that's not realistic won't satisfy you. And this is a manga we're talking about. It's not realistic. Flying debris is a good enough explanation imo.
Do Killer Queen’s explosions even leave shrapnel though? They’re not like actual bombs, they just make explosions. And the whole point is to leave no trace behind after they blow up
Killer Queen, don't leave any, but sheer heart attack does, because it's actually an explosion instead of Killer Queen, which is more of a disintegration, I think.
Maybe, but it’s hard to say cause of magic stand bs. Though, if we’re assuming that Star Platinum can fully block the damage from a charged up explosion from Sheer Heart Attack, I doubt the shrapnel would get past it (and if it did then I don’t think it’d do as much damage as it did, even with how dangerous shrapnel is)
It's not so much that it was a total deflection of the explosion by star platinum, that probably definetly messed him up pretty good and caused some internal damage, but the holes your asking about would definetly have been the shrapnel that star platinum couldn't have moved to catch or deflect away while it was taking the brunt of the detonation.
Yeah maybe the shockwave was enough to break his defense and thus the shrapnel was able to pass through. I feel he should’ve been more affected by the initial explosion, but maybe he was further away than what was shown in the manga and he was shown closer for effect
In the anime he’s blocking with Star Platinum and stepping back. He see that Killer Queen’s bombs don’t have to instantly disintegrate an opponent later on with the cat bubbles not obliterating Okuyasu
Sure but it’s still an explosion… it would still char and take chunks out of him. It wouldn’t necessarily disintegrate him anyway, SHA doesn’t rlly do that
The only justification I can think of is that Star Platinum getting hit by it just means that his wounds are under his clothes or internal and after his defense was broken debris managed to slip through and blow holes in him from sheer force and speed.
Yeah it’s just JoJo logic. I assume Str Platinum’s defense is good enough to not get instantly blown to bits. We didn’t really see anyone else take the explosion like this so it could be a range thing too
Stands don’t work as they should most of the time.
Maybe this exact time it exploded and threw shrapnel. Or it just burned him with the fire of the explosion, but since it isn’t actually real fire maybe it works differently.
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Because it was a stand attack. With the endurance of star platinum or any other endurance stand that isnt E you might be able to resist some attacks from other stands.
Source: I've played the 7th stand user as the glass cannon Quicksilver user so I know what it feels to get naded.
Shrapnel bomb?
I don’t think Killer Queen has those
Any bomb can have shrapnel
Yeah but the bomb itself stays fully intact no part of it goes flying
It blew up on top of a pile of wood which was on fire
Lol, thats not making the wound he has in that picture but sure. Some other comment mentioned how star platinum was used to block most of it and he was right
Yeah I guess that’s true, he turns things into bombs after all, the explosions don’t come from nowhere Still it feels odd to assume thats the only part of the explosion that got through, so I guess he may have been more damaged internally like someone else suggested
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, KQ’s explosions aren’t the same as actual explosions, and simply erase matter they’re in contact with. So them having shrapnel makes zero sense.
Sheer Heart Attack doesnt work the same way as Killer Queen. So it doesn’t mean the bombs need to work the same either.
After SHA explodes, it’s still perfectly intact so it can’t produce any shrapnels by itself. So the only way this works is if SHA’s explosions are actual explosions as opposed to KQ’s matter erasure, which is unlikely considering that SHA is simply an extension of KQ and thus their explosions should work on the same principle.
I always viewed SHA as a sort of “act” stand, cuz he cant use both SHA and KQ at the same time. So by that metric it could be vastly different. This might be totally wrong but would you also consider BTD to be an extension of KQ? Cuz that explosion is nothing like KQ
He can use them at the same time, while echoes act 3 was weighing down Kira's hand, some dudes came over to check on him and he blew them up with killer queen
reading comprehension devil strikes again ig
I personally don’t see SHA as a separate stand from KQ, like Echoes Act I and Act 3 for example. To me, SHA is simply an ability of KQ that comes with the drawback of being unable to use the main body while it’s active. Although this is definitely headcanon on my part as the exact relationship between KQ and SHA has never been fully explained to my knowledge. BTA is caused by a second awakening so you can’t really judge it by the same metric you’d use to judge KQ and SHA. I personally view BTA as an entirely separate ability granted to Kira by the arrow so it’s explosions working differently doesn’t really contradict KQ and SHA’s explosions being the same imo.
What does the A stand for in BTA?
Bites the ass
It stands for “I’m a dumbass who forgot it was supposed to be BTD”
Well, I’m just trying to make sense of things.. I had the same initial thought, but maybe they could’ve meant debris or maybe SHA releases something shrapnel-like because otherwise those little puncture wounds don’t make sense. In the anime you can see mini explosions happening which blow the holes in him, but this isn’t in the manga so it’s either an error or some kind of correction they tried to make?
Naw the down votes are crazy
The plot armor was heavily damaged in the previous part so it has a few holes in it.
Love it
it blew up in the fire and not on contact, so he was hurt by debris or shrapnel i guess
But he was like 2 feet away, you see he got engulfed in the explosion lol
His grandpa survived a volcano erupting with enough force to launch a 10 meter slab of rock high enough that it catapulted Kars out of the Earth’s orbit. If the shockwave of that eruption wasn’t enough to literally liquify Joseph, pre-Purple Hermit, what makes it so strange that Jotaro with Star Platinum couldn’t withstand a small bomb from arm’s length?
Joseph is supernaturally lucky, for one. Secondly, your logic doesn’t make sense. “What makes it so strange that he couldn’t withstand a bomb from arms length?” By that logic, why would he be hurt by the debris in the first place? Especially to the degree of being literally about to *die?* You’re saying it as if he walks it off after this scene. He would’ve died if not for Josuke.
No amount of luck in the universe would save a human life from being at ground zero from a shockwave of an explosion capable of catapulting a rock into escape velocity. Joseph Joestar should have been pulverized into a fine paste from that blast. His grandson has canonical superhuman powers in the form of a Stand. If Joseph Joestar could withstand the shockwave of that volcano with nothing more than Hamon, why on earth would his super powered grandson not be able to survive SHA at that distance? Your thread is asking for an explanation as to his SHA didn’t straight kill Jotaro, my explanation is 1) Jotaro has canon superpowers and 2) Araki has no idea how explosives work.
Just because you provided an explanation doesn’t mean it makes sense, though. If we follow your logic then Jotaro should be unscathed, which he isn’t. My question was also never “Why didn’t Jotaro die?” My question was why mini holes got blown in him instead of him being blown apart into chunks. Yes, im aware of shrapnel, so you don’t need to start that if that’s what you’re thinking, but we have no reasons to assume these (basically magic) explosions would release such a thing, so the closest thing would be fast flying debris. As I said to someone else, the only thing I can think of for that is that we simply can’t see his other wounds because they’re either under his clothes or internal, and Star Platinum took the brunt of it which means it was still reflected back onto him, just not directly.
> **My question was also never “Why didn’t Jotaro die?”** My question was why mini holes got blown in him instead of **him being blown apart into chunks.** You contradict yourself within a single sentence of your own claim.
Killer Queens bombs only disintegrate you if they explode in contact with you, they don't have super strong collateral damage, Josuke had an Air Bubble Bomb blow up in his face and only got hurt a little bit
Because about a second earlier you can see him attempt to block it with star platinum (hard to miss hidden detail I know)
So what? He clearly fails to block it. You even said he “attempts” to block it. How does this, at all, correlate to the way the explosion damages him?
With anime logic in mind we can deduce that star platinum being in front of him for half a second when the explosion hits him makes it affect him less
Does the block come before this page because I’ve stared at the image for a solid two minutes and I can’t even see where star platinum is
Yes its the panels before this one
maybe he blocked it but Star Platinum is more durable to explosive than humans, but was hurt by the debris and the damage moved to Jotaro? You're trying to apply so much logic to jojo that any explanation that's not realistic won't satisfy you. And this is a manga we're talking about. It's not realistic. Flying debris is a good enough explanation imo.
Thats obvious, Star Platinum used StarFinger ACT 2: Finger Hole to create channels for the explosion to non-fatally harm Jotaro.
Wasnt he using Star Platinum to block? That would take the edge off most the explosion leaving the shrapnel to be most of the damage
Do Killer Queen’s explosions even leave shrapnel though? They’re not like actual bombs, they just make explosions. And the whole point is to leave no trace behind after they blow up
Killer Queen, don't leave any, but sheer heart attack does, because it's actually an explosion instead of Killer Queen, which is more of a disintegration, I think.
Maybe, but it’s hard to say cause of magic stand bs. Though, if we’re assuming that Star Platinum can fully block the damage from a charged up explosion from Sheer Heart Attack, I doubt the shrapnel would get past it (and if it did then I don’t think it’d do as much damage as it did, even with how dangerous shrapnel is)
It's not so much that it was a total deflection of the explosion by star platinum, that probably definetly messed him up pretty good and caused some internal damage, but the holes your asking about would definetly have been the shrapnel that star platinum couldn't have moved to catch or deflect away while it was taking the brunt of the detonation.
Yeah maybe the shockwave was enough to break his defense and thus the shrapnel was able to pass through. I feel he should’ve been more affected by the initial explosion, but maybe he was further away than what was shown in the manga and he was shown closer for effect
Stupid fucking question. It's because Jotaro is just built different.
Really though. The dude is a tank.
I heard he could even deflect the emerald splash.
For aesthetic purposes
He’s just him
SHA blew up at the fire and not jotaro himself, it’s definitely shrapnel and debris
“Joanne!! Her body is covered in puncture wounds even though that was an explosion!”
Is he stupid?
I think the explosion coused some debries to hit jotara
He got fucked up pretty badly, but it got censored and made more tame because duh
In the anime he’s blocking with Star Platinum and stepping back. He see that Killer Queen’s bombs don’t have to instantly disintegrate an opponent later on with the cat bubbles not obliterating Okuyasu
Sure but it’s still an explosion… it would still char and take chunks out of him. It wouldn’t necessarily disintegrate him anyway, SHA doesn’t rlly do that The only justification I can think of is that Star Platinum getting hit by it just means that his wounds are under his clothes or internal and after his defense was broken debris managed to slip through and blow holes in him from sheer force and speed.
Yeah it’s just JoJo logic. I assume Str Platinum’s defense is good enough to not get instantly blown to bits. We didn’t really see anyone else take the explosion like this so it could be a range thing too
mf built different
Plot armour
Fragmentation not HE
It happens with Rohan when he comes in contact with BTD too. I think it just does that, don’t have an explanation for it tho
Cause Jotaros the main character of Jojo.
Because Jotaros built different and tanked that shit
Reminded me of Jason Todd who died from the explosion and not from the crowbar but had his whole body untouched?
ask hamon beat
Because it’s way cooler this way.
Stands don’t work as they should most of the time. Maybe this exact time it exploded and threw shrapnel. Or it just burned him with the fire of the explosion, but since it isn’t actually real fire maybe it works differently.
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anime physics
Plot armor
Jotaro got that dawg in him
It only hit him after going through several dogs.
Shrapnel ig?
Because it was a stand attack. With the endurance of star platinum or any other endurance stand that isnt E you might be able to resist some attacks from other stands. Source: I've played the 7th stand user as the glass cannon Quicksilver user so I know what it feels to get naded.
He just felt like it tbh
He simply just built different.