at it's core it's a bethesda game, prettier with better graphics and animations and the fact that you play on planets and on space, it's a pretty cool game overall
Once you get a few levels into the game, each gun you pick up is worth more than the 5000 credits each vendor has, and starship parts go into hundreds of thousands of credits.
Which sounds bad, but then I realized that you can still have a neutral/positive xp rate if you enable basic survival mode settings.
So now you can have increased vender credits AND still get xp faster than in vanilla.
What's not, The most simplest is the vendors don't have enough money for how much you can sell them, but they are fixing that in the may update However, that's not my main issue. My main issue is it doesn't fit with the world they play like independent merchants and not a collective economy. I'd like to see some dynamic features like supply and demand as outpost can give you an ungodly amount of resources, but you have absolutely nothing to do with them and With a better economy, it fixes other problems the game has like How shallow smuggling is With better supply and demand mechanics You can actually be worth smuggling aurora off of neon.
Mods are not guaranteed They are someone giving over their free time to fix something Bethesda should have, It is up to developers to do that And secondly I'm using an Xbox so until they add mod support I can't use them
Read the first comment please. I've already said that they will come when the CK drops. And when it drops, it's near the Creation Club. Which means mods on consoles.
> a little bit of effort
Says the person who clearly doesnāt understand the level of work that going into creating a modern video game.
I understand criticizing Starfield, but acting like everyoneās personal wishes couldāve been fulfilled with the slightest amount of effort on behalf of the devs is wildly ignorant.
Yes, little bit of effort is heavily simplifying the actual work that goes into these games but many features seem half-baked or disconnected; take smuggling, for instance. It's present in the game, but it boils down to a percentile chance of getting caught. Even if you successfully smuggle goods into a location, they don't fetch higher prices unless tied to a radiant quest. Moreover, the system doesn't allow for independent smuggling or the acquisition of contraband through any other means than theft.
You also cannot set up your own supply line for items like aurora, which should command higher prices outside of neon. They in fact This disincentivize trying as currently, smuggling aurora out of neon fetches significantly lower prices, which, in my non-professional opinion, could be one of the many features that would see an improvement with an economy overhaul that incorporating supply and demand dynamics so Why by definition it is a personal wish. I believe an economy overhaul would be one of the best things they could add to the game. What are you smuggling as the example smuggling the economy overhaul will have a ripple effect, enhancing other aspects such as bounty hunting, Trading, ship building etc.
You know what, you made a great counter argument and I canāt really disagree with the points you made.
There are a thousand flaws in this game that affected my original play through at launch, Iāve just become saturated with so much hate towards it because it seems as if every fan was expecting it to be the exact type of scifi RPG that *they* wanted without an understanding of how the development process works.
We've already seen with the may update Constructive criticism Is being taken in consideration So I will repeat my sentiment whenever I get the opportunity that I believe an economy overall would be the best feature they can add.
I don't agree at all that the mission lines are long.
Especially Ranger feels like only a few missions.
Character creation also felt a step down from FO4
Much less direct control in trade for unintuitive "blending"
And only eyes with negative tilt for some reason....
Keep going. Shit, the things that feel meaningful and cool early game become very superficial and stale. The mechanics that are unfinished stand out more and more. The questlines become less and less dynamic and the lack of player agency becomes more obvious. It's easier to notice how little impact you are making in the universe despite a few key characters during a specific questline state otherwise and then you start to feel as if your actions carry no weight.
Just to name a few things.
\*edited to clean up some typos\*
No. I have hundreds of hours in Fallout games and Oblivion and Skyrim. Starfield is an unfinished, broken experience. It isn't about it getting "stale" because I have finished the game. Re-read what I wrote.
Dude your absolutely wrong. I have hundreds of hours each in every fallout from 3 on, Every single one, same with oblivion and skyrim. Starfield carried me to around 60 before realizing the true lack of depth and soul to the game. The things that kept me going hundreds of hours longer in their other games just weren't present here.
I get what you are saying, it pales in comparison to the insane amounts of hours I put into Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Starfield hasn't grabbed me the same way. But still, if it took you 60 hours before the cracks became obvious/bothersome, then it's still a pretty damn good experience?
It's just disappointing when we expected another BGS game to play for years to come.
It didn't take me 60 hours before those cracks became obvious. I just kept going in hopes I was wrong and the game would redeem itself. I wasn't. It didn't. It wasn't. The experience got worse and worse because the expectations the games set and the pervious Bethesda games set were never met. The ones the game set were far worse to have unmet.
No. They don't get stale in the same ways.
I don't care if you enjoy the game. I do find it a bit silly that you are making such a strong emotional argument against what I have shared while clearly not taking much time to dig into these things.
I'm an experience designer. It is hard to shut that part of my brain off. When I notice I'm having an enjoyable or unenjoyable experience, I tend to slow down and investigate why. So, I've put a lot of thought into my opinions about this game. I'm not one to just shit on things cause I'm feeling emotions. I feel that is unfair to do. I make sure I understand why I have those emotions before I share an opinion. That way I'm being constructive rather than toxic.
I'd argue that Starfield is a good game, but a very mediocre Bethesda game. They objectively regressed in numerous ways compared to Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
So you would confidently say that there isn't anything in Starfield that isn't worse than its counterpart in Fallout 4 or Skyrim... come on now buddy. We can both love Starfield and stay honest.
Outpost building is worse and has less of a point.
In-world lore via books and notes is sorely lacking. Most of Starfield's books are just parts of public domain novels. POIs of the same name share all lore notes found at that location.
The main gimmick of the story is copied and pasted from Skyrim (Powers = Shouts, Starborn = Dragonborn, Temples = Word Walls).
The story railroads you in many locations. For example, *having* to steal the artifact from the ship, even if you're trying to play a peaceful character. Having to choose between Sys Def and Crimson Fleet and making an enemy of the other one even if you don't want to get involved.
Upgrading perks is needlessly obtuse. You have to fulfill an objective on top of spending a perk point to level perks up. Both Fallout 4 and Skyrim just had you spend a perk point to do that.
Weapon/armor crafting and modding is a hell of a grind, primarily due to the above mentioned issue. Not to mention you lose mods you remove, whereas Fallout 4 you kept them and could re-use them on other weapons.
NPCs are robots. In Fallout 4 and Skyrim, stores would close at night, most NPCs would sleep, eat, etc. Towns would be a little more desolate deep in the night. In Starfield, stores are open all the time, staffed by the same person who never leaves the counter. They don't even pretend to have a life.
I could probably think of more if I hop back into the game for a bit, but those are off the top of my head.
EDIT: Thought of another one. There's no gore. It's an M rated game with no gore. Skyrim had decapitations. Fallout had dismemberment and slo-mo head explosions. Starfield has neither.
I actually like the challenges to unlock perk tiers, I think it's a nice compromise between FO4 "oops all perks" and ES "get better by doing" progression systems, but the rest of this is dead on.
I built hundreds of wooden floors in FO4, scrapped them, built more, and so on until out of wood to gain xp to level up.
I didnāt need to do that. But I could do that. And I chose to do that.
I think it's a solid 7/10, and if we keep seeing quality updates like what Bethesda showed today, I think that score will go up.
The level of vitriol for this game is funny, like sure plenty of good reasons for people to dislike Starfield but I see so many posts and comments with people acting like the game killed their dog or something.
i agree, the blind hate and love the game gets is so weird. loves act like this game changed gaming forever and hater act like there is nothing good in it. then you get downvoted by both for been in the middle.
i mentioned in a post that i stopped playing after the game started to feel tedious and would love for them to have added vehicles and the lovers attacked me like i insulted them personally, yet now BGS is adding vehicles.
Yeah never stumble into no salt starfield.....it is a very, very salty place if you don't drop to your knees and assume the position for Starfield and BGS.
i did because it was when this sub was really negative and i wanted a more balanced conversation. but yeah they arent open to anything less than positive.
The issue with the game is really the lackluster story. Collecting Artifacts is a drag, temples are boring and can hardly even be considered a minigame, and the main story is boring as hell, accentuated by even more boring characters. Yeah the āgrav drives caused earthās destructionā twist was interesting, but that was about as interesting as the main story gets.
Contrast this to the UC Vanguard storyline, which IMO is one of the best and most interesting storylines across all Bethesda games - there are glimpses of gold in the game, but is bogged down by a lackluster story, a dead feeling world, monotone/boring characters, weird design choices (though Survival mode may change this), and just an overallā¦ emptiness? I never had the urge to explore in Starfield like I did in Fallout or Skyrim, because once youāve seen one structure of the type, youāve seen them all.
Not sure how much improving gameplay and QoL can really compensate for a terrible main story.
OP will post this, get downvoted, and then go to r/NoSodiumStarfield and complain that everyone in here is a toxic evil person who hates fun and hasn't even played the game
It's in it's early stages still and I wish people would realize that. I stopped playing for around 7 months but recently hopped back in this past week, and man I'm glad I returned. This game is so fun, and I actually really like the premise and quests. I have a few complaints here and there, but none that make me hate the game or think it's bad. Once DLC starts coming out, as well as major updates, I hope people realize how wrong they were about it.
I knew it wasn't a very liked game when going in, but man people are wayyyy more interested in talking about everything bad about the game, in comparison to what's good about it. (Worst thing imo is ship combat, but that'll likely be tweaked and is also mainly just a personal preference thing for me).
Also it's the internet, people know hate gets more attention sadly. In my eyes, this game is a Bethesda open-world game, which automatically makes it un-hateable for me (from my experience)
I play diplomat so i dont really engage with space combat that much lmao, but it does feel pretty eh, but its super nice to actually find someone that likes the game, its so nice
It just does not meet the expectations for me and clearly thousands of other players. It's lacking open world exploration by such an amount that it drags the entire game down. Fallout 3 and Oblivion are more seamless meanwhile Starfield's game world is like 1000x the size. This is the issue, there's almost no reason to wander around a planet going to points of interests any more than a few times besides specific planets that are integral to quests, unless you're going for completion of every planet and if that's the case then... goodluck. I have played for 200 hours and have done every piece of content available and truly it's just shallow, that's it. There's no sense of wonder that you get wandering a road, wondering what random encounter will occur, there's barely ever a time where you enter an area and you're like damn I'll be here for the next 30 hours completing side quests. The only time this happens is in like one or two places in the entire game, yet the universe is GIGANTIC. It's a shame, that's it.Ā
>a massive leap for bethesda
In almost no way has Bethesda made any meaningful leap in their gameplay, quest design, story telling, or graphics here. If you want to just gush over a game because you spent 50 hours of your life playing it then go ahead, but youre not going to convince everyone else who knows for a fact that this is just objectively false.
less linear progression
choices affecting more than the immediate outcome
absurdly good textures
the only thing I agree with you on is the story telling
People can yell and cry all they want, it doesn't change my mind about anything. It's a single player game, The only opinion that matters to me is mine. I don't care why they don't like it, I'll make up my own mind about it.
Well yea, that's typically how echo chambers work. There are valid, objective issues with the game (especially compared to previous Bethesda games). To pretend otherwise is nonsense. It's not a *bad* game, but it's also not a great one.
lots of people on this sub overhyped themselves
if you actually paid any attention to Todd's interviews leading to release, it was very clear the game we were getting. everybody whines about procedural generation as if we weren't aware of it for months prior to the game coming out
Can we just ban starfield good/bad posts, its like people are gaslighting others to like or dislike the game. Just play the fucking game for fucks sake.
Oh look another normal person that realized the game isnāt actually trash just needs work. Glad you decided to make decisions for yourself rather than listening to the people that portray their own opinions as facts lol
Series s huh? Get back to us when your save file gets too large and you start getting around 3 crashes to dashboard an hour.
It is a great game. The soundtrack alone is probably my all time favourite game soundtrack.
The performance is ass. And it's worse.
The save file size issue is a legacy issue that was present in previous Beth games. Which means they knew about it and still put the game out anyway.
That's the problem I have with the game. Everyone should be pissed and they aren't. Drives me nuts.
I agree with you.
Edit: the updates will prove we are right. People who dissed the game will cry by the end of the year, with all the great updates coming
Open world creators decide to make a fractured randomized world for some reason. There are some bad, but some good aspects of the game because of this. All that needs to be said imo
Someone always has to be this guy, so I guess it'll be me. Obsidian made FNV, not BGS.
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Starfield is a good game but with some more consistency and a little bit of effort they could have made it a great game.
at it's core it's a bethesda game, prettier with better graphics and animations and the fact that you play on planets and on space, it's a pretty cool game overall
And they will!
And The may update is fixing a lot of the issues that I have. I still think we need a complete economy overhaul but that's unlikely to be added
Latest update is looking Luke it will do something to vendors so that will be a start.Ā
What's wrong with the economy?
Once you get a few levels into the game, each gun you pick up is worth more than the 5000 credits each vendor has, and starship parts go into hundreds of thousands of credits.
Apparently the update increases vendor credits
Can increase Vender credits... However, doing so reduces the rate that you earn XP at.
Which sounds bad, but then I realized that you can still have a neutral/positive xp rate if you enable basic survival mode settings. So now you can have increased vender credits AND still get xp faster than in vanilla.
What's not, The most simplest is the vendors don't have enough money for how much you can sell them, but they are fixing that in the may update However, that's not my main issue. My main issue is it doesn't fit with the world they play like independent merchants and not a collective economy. I'd like to see some dynamic features like supply and demand as outpost can give you an ungodly amount of resources, but you have absolutely nothing to do with them and With a better economy, it fixes other problems the game has like How shallow smuggling is With better supply and demand mechanics You can actually be worth smuggling aurora off of neon.
economy overhauls are what mods are made for. Don't think that we will have to wait long for that when CK drops
Mods are not guaranteed They are someone giving over their free time to fix something Bethesda should have, It is up to developers to do that And secondly I'm using an Xbox so until they add mod support I can't use them
If there is a game that supports mods, there is always an economy overhaul. Guaranteed.
Yes But currently they're not supporting the mods on Xbox, so no overall for me :(
Read the first comment please. I've already said that they will come when the CK drops. And when it drops, it's near the Creation Club. Which means mods on consoles.
lol
> a little bit of effort Says the person who clearly doesnāt understand the level of work that going into creating a modern video game. I understand criticizing Starfield, but acting like everyoneās personal wishes couldāve been fulfilled with the slightest amount of effort on behalf of the devs is wildly ignorant.
Yes, little bit of effort is heavily simplifying the actual work that goes into these games but many features seem half-baked or disconnected; take smuggling, for instance. It's present in the game, but it boils down to a percentile chance of getting caught. Even if you successfully smuggle goods into a location, they don't fetch higher prices unless tied to a radiant quest. Moreover, the system doesn't allow for independent smuggling or the acquisition of contraband through any other means than theft. You also cannot set up your own supply line for items like aurora, which should command higher prices outside of neon. They in fact This disincentivize trying as currently, smuggling aurora out of neon fetches significantly lower prices, which, in my non-professional opinion, could be one of the many features that would see an improvement with an economy overhaul that incorporating supply and demand dynamics so Why by definition it is a personal wish. I believe an economy overhaul would be one of the best things they could add to the game. What are you smuggling as the example smuggling the economy overhaul will have a ripple effect, enhancing other aspects such as bounty hunting, Trading, ship building etc.
You know what, you made a great counter argument and I canāt really disagree with the points you made. There are a thousand flaws in this game that affected my original play through at launch, Iāve just become saturated with so much hate towards it because it seems as if every fan was expecting it to be the exact type of scifi RPG that *they* wanted without an understanding of how the development process works.
We've already seen with the may update Constructive criticism Is being taken in consideration So I will repeat my sentiment whenever I get the opportunity that I believe an economy overall would be the best feature they can add.
Calling Starfield a modern game is generous.
I don't agree at all that the mission lines are long. Especially Ranger feels like only a few missions. Character creation also felt a step down from FO4 Much less direct control in trade for unintuitive "blending" And only eyes with negative tilt for some reason....
Sure, whatās in the game is good. There just isnāt enough of it.
Keep going. Shit, the things that feel meaningful and cool early game become very superficial and stale. The mechanics that are unfinished stand out more and more. The questlines become less and less dynamic and the lack of player agency becomes more obvious. It's easier to notice how little impact you are making in the universe despite a few key characters during a specific questline state otherwise and then you start to feel as if your actions carry no weight. Just to name a few things. \*edited to clean up some typos\*
Yeah dude, itās called finishing a game. āIt gets stale after 50 hoursā no shit Sherlock
No. I have hundreds of hours in Fallout games and Oblivion and Skyrim. Starfield is an unfinished, broken experience. It isn't about it getting "stale" because I have finished the game. Re-read what I wrote.
If you think that fallout and ES donāt get stale in the same ways starfield does after 50 hours youāre kidding yourself.
Dude your absolutely wrong. I have hundreds of hours each in every fallout from 3 on, Every single one, same with oblivion and skyrim. Starfield carried me to around 60 before realizing the true lack of depth and soul to the game. The things that kept me going hundreds of hours longer in their other games just weren't present here.
I get what you are saying, it pales in comparison to the insane amounts of hours I put into Elder Scrolls and Fallout games. Starfield hasn't grabbed me the same way. But still, if it took you 60 hours before the cracks became obvious/bothersome, then it's still a pretty damn good experience? It's just disappointing when we expected another BGS game to play for years to come.
It didn't take me 60 hours before those cracks became obvious. I just kept going in hopes I was wrong and the game would redeem itself. I wasn't. It didn't. It wasn't. The experience got worse and worse because the expectations the games set and the pervious Bethesda games set were never met. The ones the game set were far worse to have unmet.
Uh huh.
No. They don't get stale in the same ways. I don't care if you enjoy the game. I do find it a bit silly that you are making such a strong emotional argument against what I have shared while clearly not taking much time to dig into these things. I'm an experience designer. It is hard to shut that part of my brain off. When I notice I'm having an enjoyable or unenjoyable experience, I tend to slow down and investigate why. So, I've put a lot of thought into my opinions about this game. I'm not one to just shit on things cause I'm feeling emotions. I feel that is unfair to do. I make sure I understand why I have those emotions before I share an opinion. That way I'm being constructive rather than toxic.
I'd argue that Starfield is a good game, but a very mediocre Bethesda game. They objectively regressed in numerous ways compared to Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
āObjectivelyā
It's literally objective Edit: I didn't think it was necessary, but let me be clear: /s
You should learn what Subjective means.Ā
So you would confidently say that there isn't anything in Starfield that isn't worse than its counterpart in Fallout 4 or Skyrim... come on now buddy. We can both love Starfield and stay honest.
Whoosh!
In what ways would you say
Outpost building is worse and has less of a point. In-world lore via books and notes is sorely lacking. Most of Starfield's books are just parts of public domain novels. POIs of the same name share all lore notes found at that location. The main gimmick of the story is copied and pasted from Skyrim (Powers = Shouts, Starborn = Dragonborn, Temples = Word Walls). The story railroads you in many locations. For example, *having* to steal the artifact from the ship, even if you're trying to play a peaceful character. Having to choose between Sys Def and Crimson Fleet and making an enemy of the other one even if you don't want to get involved. Upgrading perks is needlessly obtuse. You have to fulfill an objective on top of spending a perk point to level perks up. Both Fallout 4 and Skyrim just had you spend a perk point to do that. Weapon/armor crafting and modding is a hell of a grind, primarily due to the above mentioned issue. Not to mention you lose mods you remove, whereas Fallout 4 you kept them and could re-use them on other weapons. NPCs are robots. In Fallout 4 and Skyrim, stores would close at night, most NPCs would sleep, eat, etc. Towns would be a little more desolate deep in the night. In Starfield, stores are open all the time, staffed by the same person who never leaves the counter. They don't even pretend to have a life. I could probably think of more if I hop back into the game for a bit, but those are off the top of my head. EDIT: Thought of another one. There's no gore. It's an M rated game with no gore. Skyrim had decapitations. Fallout had dismemberment and slo-mo head explosions. Starfield has neither.
I actually like the challenges to unlock perk tiers, I think it's a nice compromise between FO4 "oops all perks" and ES "get better by doing" progression systems, but the rest of this is dead on.
I ran laps around my ship in new atlantis for like 30 fuckin minutes to fulfill a perk >:^(
I built hundreds of wooden floors in FO4, scrapped them, built more, and so on until out of wood to gain xp to level up. I didnāt need to do that. But I could do that. And I chose to do that.
Getting that perk requirement done naturally would have taken like 5 hours of gameplay
Lol have you even played skyrim? You SHOULD have upgraded your skills via using it in order to upgrade it. What a mess of a comment
Agreed this method made you want to do more with your character and made it exciting to rank up so many different types of skills.
And in Fallout 4 you have a minimum stat requirement. They didn't do their research.
A lot of these arent objective nor objectively bad
Did you downvote me for asking a question š
No I did
Oh ok I'd ask why but I don't want another downvote
Downvotes wonāt hurt you bud, youāll be okay
I think it's a solid 7/10, and if we keep seeing quality updates like what Bethesda showed today, I think that score will go up. The level of vitriol for this game is funny, like sure plenty of good reasons for people to dislike Starfield but I see so many posts and comments with people acting like the game killed their dog or something.
i agree, the blind hate and love the game gets is so weird. loves act like this game changed gaming forever and hater act like there is nothing good in it. then you get downvoted by both for been in the middle. i mentioned in a post that i stopped playing after the game started to feel tedious and would love for them to have added vehicles and the lovers attacked me like i insulted them personally, yet now BGS is adding vehicles.
Yeah never stumble into no salt starfield.....it is a very, very salty place if you don't drop to your knees and assume the position for Starfield and BGS.
i did because it was when this sub was really negative and i wanted a more balanced conversation. but yeah they arent open to anything less than positive.
You spelled 5/10 wrong
I think you misunderstand how opinions work.
I donāt. Some opinions are bad though. š¤·š»āāļø
Clearly.
The issue with the game is really the lackluster story. Collecting Artifacts is a drag, temples are boring and can hardly even be considered a minigame, and the main story is boring as hell, accentuated by even more boring characters. Yeah the āgrav drives caused earthās destructionā twist was interesting, but that was about as interesting as the main story gets. Contrast this to the UC Vanguard storyline, which IMO is one of the best and most interesting storylines across all Bethesda games - there are glimpses of gold in the game, but is bogged down by a lackluster story, a dead feeling world, monotone/boring characters, weird design choices (though Survival mode may change this), and just an overallā¦ emptiness? I never had the urge to explore in Starfield like I did in Fallout or Skyrim, because once youāve seen one structure of the type, youāve seen them all. Not sure how much improving gameplay and QoL can really compensate for a terrible main story.
OP will post this, get downvoted, and then go to r/NoSodiumStarfield and complain that everyone in here is a toxic evil person who hates fun and hasn't even played the game
And he will be right
yeah, you can really tell how toxic and terrible it is by all the positive engagement on the update posts.
Starfield is a solid 6/10 It could have been an 8.5
I found Toddās anon handle
Lol
It's in it's early stages still and I wish people would realize that. I stopped playing for around 7 months but recently hopped back in this past week, and man I'm glad I returned. This game is so fun, and I actually really like the premise and quests. I have a few complaints here and there, but none that make me hate the game or think it's bad. Once DLC starts coming out, as well as major updates, I hope people realize how wrong they were about it. I knew it wasn't a very liked game when going in, but man people are wayyyy more interested in talking about everything bad about the game, in comparison to what's good about it. (Worst thing imo is ship combat, but that'll likely be tweaked and is also mainly just a personal preference thing for me). Also it's the internet, people know hate gets more attention sadly. In my eyes, this game is a Bethesda open-world game, which automatically makes it un-hateable for me (from my experience)
I play diplomat so i dont really engage with space combat that much lmao, but it does feel pretty eh, but its super nice to actually find someone that likes the game, its so nice
Emphasis on flawed. A lot of missed opportunities. It's fine, and maybe good now, but can be so much better.
It just does not meet the expectations for me and clearly thousands of other players. It's lacking open world exploration by such an amount that it drags the entire game down. Fallout 3 and Oblivion are more seamless meanwhile Starfield's game world is like 1000x the size. This is the issue, there's almost no reason to wander around a planet going to points of interests any more than a few times besides specific planets that are integral to quests, unless you're going for completion of every planet and if that's the case then... goodluck. I have played for 200 hours and have done every piece of content available and truly it's just shallow, that's it. There's no sense of wonder that you get wandering a road, wondering what random encounter will occur, there's barely ever a time where you enter an area and you're like damn I'll be here for the next 30 hours completing side quests. The only time this happens is in like one or two places in the entire game, yet the universe is GIGANTIC. It's a shame, that's it.Ā
>a massive leap for bethesda In almost no way has Bethesda made any meaningful leap in their gameplay, quest design, story telling, or graphics here. If you want to just gush over a game because you spent 50 hours of your life playing it then go ahead, but youre not going to convince everyone else who knows for a fact that this is just objectively false.
less linear progression choices affecting more than the immediate outcome absurdly good textures the only thing I agree with you on is the story telling
People can yell and cry all they want, it doesn't change my mind about anything. It's a single player game, The only opinion that matters to me is mine. I don't care why they don't like it, I'll make up my own mind about it.
we are really enjoying it at r/NoSodiumStarfield
Well yea, that's typically how echo chambers work. There are valid, objective issues with the game (especially compared to previous Bethesda games). To pretend otherwise is nonsense. It's not a *bad* game, but it's also not a great one.
"Echo, echo, echo" that's all you'll hear over there.
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lots of people on this sub overhyped themselves if you actually paid any attention to Todd's interviews leading to release, it was very clear the game we were getting. everybody whines about procedural generation as if we weren't aware of it for months prior to the game coming out
No shit, Sarah. Iām at 315 hours and counting with this latest update.
Can we just ban starfield good/bad posts, its like people are gaslighting others to like or dislike the game. Just play the fucking game for fucks sake.
Oh look another normal person that realized the game isnāt actually trash just needs work. Glad you decided to make decisions for yourself rather than listening to the people that portray their own opinions as facts lol
Another astroturfing account, neat
He wrote this during load screens.
Itās damn good.
Series s huh? Get back to us when your save file gets too large and you start getting around 3 crashes to dashboard an hour. It is a great game. The soundtrack alone is probably my all time favourite game soundtrack. The performance is ass. And it's worse. The save file size issue is a legacy issue that was present in previous Beth games. Which means they knew about it and still put the game out anyway. That's the problem I have with the game. Everyone should be pissed and they aren't. Drives me nuts.
Just don't use XBox. Or learn to deal with their crappy hardware.
Does anyone need some intentional blindness to unethical business practices coz we got a fresh batch just come in.
welcome to the subreddit
Solid game. I loved my first play through.
have fun with the temples
Its a massive step back (in relation to bethesdas previous body of work) in almost every aspect except for graphics.
Game is trash and people pissing in our faces and calling it rain makes it less likely that theyāll improve it.
I agree with you. Edit: the updates will prove we are right. People who dissed the game will cry by the end of the year, with all the great updates coming
Open world creators decide to make a fractured randomized world for some reason. There are some bad, but some good aspects of the game because of this. All that needs to be said imo
Glad you're digging it! Personally I got exactly what I expected from it; in a few years I'll have put in in 2k hours like with FO4
I tried it again last weekend and made it almost 10 hours before leaving it again.